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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 10:32am On Mar 23, 2018 |
dalaman: You have made your point already oga legendary goal post shifter Your points made show that you confirmed my OP which says that atheism has nothing to offer. Thank you for your contributions including the ones not solicited for. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by sonofthunder: 10:49am On Mar 23, 2018 |
dalaman:you are derailing, you tell what you have to offer as an atheist. What does your RELIGION offer? |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by sonofthunder: 10:52am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:Lol, unless some of these issues can be clarified, it would appear atheism has no past, present or future. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 10:57am On Mar 23, 2018 |
sonofthunder: It actually doesn't. It's actually in limbo It has no values, no weight, no depth, nothing but just "a position" of nothingness. I once said here that atheism is built on a negative and how can one ever imagine he can get a positive when his very beginning is a negative? They keep rejecting everything that does not agree with their worldview until now they have rejected their own future. Bunch of hopeless roamers. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by dalaman: 11:36am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Apart from FALSE HOPE, LIES and empty promises what has religion got to offer? |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:44am On Mar 23, 2018 |
dalaman:You're lucky I don't have your time. How did you even lure me into discussing christianity with you on a thread that asks what atheism has to offer? You said atheism has lots of things to offer and became dumb when asked to state those things. Stop dribbling like Messi and state what atheism has to offer. If you can't then keep quiet, you mustn't be a bigot because of atheism. No one care about your twisted opinions on reality, atheism has been preached throughout the ages of humanity, yet its still as stinky and repulsive. Tell us what atheism has to offer. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 11:45am On Mar 23, 2018 |
dalaman: Talking too much yet saying nothing must be the only thing atheism has to offer |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:49am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Tonyosas101:Reality is not all there is www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284773_s18882728edit_jpeg8f3fdc2ad228e68b8fbf17db9fc76399 www.nairaland.com/attachments/4279387_s10974680edit_jpeg5a322312cb1b472b5e850d32ed3bdf8f |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 11:49am On Mar 23, 2018 |
winner01: Even you can not believe how that legendary goalpost shifter got you to start towing his train of warped reasoning He was asked one simple question and rather than address that, he has been rambling on about things he was not even asked but somehow in his meaningless ramblings he was still very careful not to mention one thing atheism has to offer humanity That guy is far better than Messi |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:52am On Mar 23, 2018 |
darkchild64:Local champion, is this your version of Nigerian atheism Several foreign atheists whom y'all look up to explain atheism differently. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:53am On Mar 23, 2018 |
dalaman:Leave story. Tell us what atheism has to offer. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:54am On Mar 23, 2018 |
dalaman:Stop dribbling and twisting guy. Tell us what atheism has to offer. All these mental gymnastics coated with fury is stale. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:58am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:Dalaman is known to be really good. Good at strawman fallacies and goal post shifting. Loads of crap and you get to repeat the same things to him over and over. I noticed he might be going through some issues that keeps fueling his rage against God. I hope he calms down soon. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by dalaman: 12:12pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Your religion is a position based on lies, fiction, folklore and empty promise that is why you can't not point to any advantage or benefit that it offers you over others that don't subscribe to it. You keep accepting the lies, fictional idea and mythological construct of other men like you as if it's true or has any basis in reality when it doesn't at all. Bunch of myth believers. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 12:39pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
winner01: Yeah I noticed he is often enraged too. How this is possible over someone he regards as imaginary is quite astonishing. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Tonyosas101(m): 2:42pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:Alright, so which religious group offers HOPE, MOTIVATION, ENCOURAGEMENT, PEACE, COMFORT etc? |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 3:53pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Tonyosas101: That is not the purpose of this thread. The OP wishes to encourage atheists to start offering things of value to humanity and since some here have insisted that they have "a lot" to offer yet have been unable to list the things they have to offer despite repeatedly asking them for this information, perhaps you wish to help them. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by superhumanist(m): 4:38pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Were you banned? Nna, the rate of ban nowadays eh...... |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 5:01pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
superhumanist: It's the fear of truth. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Tonyosas101(m): 5:04pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:Lol, I'm not an atheist oo To me, there's nothing atheism have to offer But an atheist with good heart have a lot to offer Same with religion, it has nothing to offer unless an individual (religious person) with good heart Those stuff mentioned above (hope, encouragement & all) can easily be pass on to one another, irrespective of race or what you believe in 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 5:53pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Tonyosas101: I am sure you read the comments on this thread right from the beginning. Do you mind carrying out an analysis of the comments? Unless you are saying that the atheistswho made those comments do not have good hearts. Besides, what is a good heart? What is the basis for morality for an atheist? How do they rationalise "good" from "acceptable" because to an atheist, morality is subjective which in itself is ridiculous. This means that "they" decide what is good or bad and can choose to do bad because they feel that at that point, that bad is a good thing. Can you please help me join in my clarion call by asking any atheist here to list out what atheism has to offer since they as atheists believe in this reality as of today and never imagine a future that isn't tangible to them. So where is the hope Coming from? These are honest words from atheists below who do not pretend about anything same way those who commented here as atheists stuck with their worldview and spoke about the hopelessness and emptiness of their worldview James White; Barker remarked: the late William Provine: He also said and I quote "No inherent moral or ethical laws exist, nor are there any absolute guiding principles for human society. The universe cares nothing for us and we have no ultimate meaning in life”. Richard Dawkins recounts: If that’s not enough, the atheist chemist Peter Atkins goes as far as to call us “ children of chaos,” and that “the deep structure of change is decay. At root, there is only corruption, and the unstemmable tide of chaos. Gone is purpose; all that is left is direction. This is the bleakness we have to accept as we peer deeply and dispassionately into the heart of the Universe” The atheist Jon Casimir, as cited by Marsden, is forthright with his own comment and I quote him: “Here’s what I think. There is no meaning of life. The whole thing is a gyp, a never-ending corridor to nowhere. What is passed off as an all-important search is basically just a bunch of philosophers scrabbling about on their knees, trying to find a lost sock in the cosmic laundromat” Existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre goes on to articulate his nihilistic epiphany thus:
The religious are seen as objective while atheists see themselves as subjective. I could show you what they think of objectivity and how silly it is and this has made them (atheists) to hold absolutely NO VALUES. So tell me again where their hopes, encouragement, motivation, comfort, etc comes from. You need to read up and find out why ALL atheists are nihilists. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by superhumanist(m): 7:11pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: This is your problem- YOU NEVER STOP TO THINK WHETHER ALL THE ATHEISTS YOU QUOTED ARE NIHILISTS/PESSIMISTS. YOU JUST AASUME THE REPRESENT ALL ATHEISTS (SOME OF WHOM ARE RELIGIOUS) |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 7:44pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
superhumanist: Will you make an effort to be smart for once in your life? I did stop and I did think and as long as atheists see themselves as subjective and reject religious morals then they are ALL nihilistic. I wonder why you think all the atheists whose quotes I put up are all singing the same song. Make an effort to think next time if you would. nihilism Any atheist who is a pessimist is a nihilist because both cannot be separated and so far all atheists who hold the subjective moral position are nihilists whether you like it or not. It is this rejection of objective religious morals that has made atheists to be REALISTS and just like those who have commented here earlier they never see a brighter or better future because they believe in NOW because they reject the "imaginary" better and brighter future that religion offers. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by superhumanist(m): 8:05pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: But there are religious atheists...... which defeats your point |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 8:43pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
superhumanist: It doesn't! |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by superhumanist(m): 8:44pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 9:48pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
superhumanist: You are parading shameless unintelligence. A place you never ascended from and probably never will. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Kinggnicole(f): 10:49pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
I wonder how the world would have been if humans had decided to wait for heaven and do nothing to improve our planet (they call it hope of eternal life) How many lives would have been lost if we had waited for God to heal our diseases and done nothing? (hope of divine healing) Bad things happen and good things happen. This is reality. False hope doesn't change that. The hope religion offers is to a large extent false(except in very rare cases, the placebo effect). Religion has a very large extent of its hope in the afterlife. The afterlife has not been proven to either exist or not exist. The truth remains that we don't know. What we know is the life we have NOW. It's amazing how much humanity has achieved as a race and how much more we can achieve if only we can act! This is the real HOPE. That we are capable, we are able to make the world a better place, to solve problems, to discover and achieve our full potentials if we ACT!!! This Hope, the real hope may not be as "fairytale -like" as the false hope religion offers but it's worth it . THIS IS THE HOPE THAT MAKES US ACT. THE REAL HOPE GETS THINGS DONE. 3 Likes |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 11:12pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Kinggnicole: Shut up and go and sleep. Even the things you mentioned above regarding diseases and all that, had their cures began by the religious and not the atheists. Science essentially began with the religious and atheists now wish to lay claim to it. Thieves! The hope religion offers is in the present AND FUTURE. future being while we are YET ALIVE and then after we are gone. Atheism offers only the present and nothing for the future even while we are yet alive how much much when we are gone. The fact remains that the nihilistic nature of atheism renders life meaningless to an atheist no matter how hard he try to lie and cover it up it stands out lime a sore thumb. They have no hopes so offer none. They see no light at the end of the tunnel as all they have is today's reality. All these pent up frustrations based on their worldview is what essentially makes them angry people. Angry at everyone and everything. Despite the fact that all religion does is try to offer them a way to deal with their frustrations they angrily reject and prefer to attack the help offered. If that isn't insanity then I wonder what is. The hope for a better tomorrow is being spear headed by the religious. Left to the atheist this world would have imploded a long time ago. You can ask the following atheists who saw no hope in tomorrow besides a pure atheistic world: Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered These are key figure atheists in positions of leadership who pushes their nihilistic deadly and hopeless agenda on their people and those murders are proof of their mindset. Go and sleep. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Kinggnicole(f): 11:19pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Woah!!!! why so defensive? Lol... why do I find this reply so funny? You're too dumb. |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 11:43pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Kinggnicole: Wow!!!!! Why so empty? Lol.... Why do I find this reply so hilarious? You're too vacuous! |
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by sonofthunder: 10:19am On Mar 24, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:lmao |
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