Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by chyket(m): 11:11am On Mar 26, 2018 |
God bless you for your gallantry!!! and selflessness. |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by frinx: 11:12am On Mar 26, 2018 |
People have to learn.
Say no to jungle justice. It may be your relative someday. Rather than picking up your phones to record try to inquire about the issue. |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by crismark(m): 11:12am On Mar 26, 2018 |
courageous.. |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Bishop1monte(m): 11:13am On Mar 26, 2018 |
post=66167358:
You will be more happier when you look at things from the bright sides of life. Have a great week ahead bro! Lol. You too. Make I dey go before I become 'more sadder' this Monday morning from Nairaland. |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Electronics: 11:14am On Mar 26, 2018 |
simonlee: Stay there dey form superhero until the day wey dem go join beat you follow..
James Bond... abi Peter Glue ni ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) This is stupidity at its peak! Pray its either not your sister, mom or daughter to be! Animal in human skin! 1 Like |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Nobody: 11:16am On Mar 26, 2018 |
I've witnessed such scenery before...
At a park while waiting for a bus,a guy beside me asked me if there's any ATM machine around so that he can withdraw, I pointed at the ATM but as he left...I decided to join him and withdraw too,Infront of me the guy withdrew 11k I did mine too and we went back to the bus top.... few minutes later a bus stopped I entered into the last space at the back and he sat beside a fat market woman just in front of me....the bus left... during the journey the guy was just searching his pockets looking for something which I later learnt was a sim card. all of a sudden the woman sitting beside him also started searching her purse and bags before we knew it she started shouting driver stop driver stop......that she's looking for her money .the driver now stopped in a nearby park.....we asked her how much she was looking for she said 11kplus,and pointed at the guy that he's a big suspect. me I was shocked the innocent guy was more shocked also...immediately 3 touts grabbed the guy and started searching and found 11,750 on him.... the woman screamed and started beating the guy...others joined ,I tried to explain to the crowd that I saw the guy withdraw that money from ATM they tried to lynch me too..... so I went back to the woman and begged her to search herself very well again.., she looked inside one of her bags and saw 11,570.....she now rushed to the mob and told Them she is sorry that she has seen her missing money.... the mob have already stripped the poor guy ,blood oozing out from all over his body and tied him with a rope under the hot sun......those touts disappeared with his phone and other valuables. he was loosened and taken to hospital later..... the woman too disappeared. this guy could have died for something he knew nothing about.
#saynotojunglejustice 5 Likes |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Nobody: 11:18am On Mar 26, 2018 |
You saved humanity by saving a life today. You my brother, are among the one percenter that refuse to just complain and criticize.You do and because you did an innocent life was saved. I doff my hat off to you. Thank you sir. I hope we all get riled up and stay woke from this singular act of revolution by this brave man ; that to make a change in this country won't be achieved by just stating the obvious or by just ranting about it.We need to get up and request for that change we so earnestly seek. We have to be willing to die for it and shed blood if anyone stands in our way! Because this country of ours must be made to reach its fullest potential. 1 Like |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by agbonkamen(f): 11:20am On Mar 26, 2018 |
ijemz:
Fool . What if that was your sister that was saved? Anu ofia don't mind the idiot |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Nobody: 11:35am On Mar 26, 2018 |
simonlee: Stay there dey form superhero until the day wey dem go join beat you follow..
James Bond... abi Peter Glue ni ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) Have nothing to say....just sh*t up! |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Leopantro: 11:39am On Mar 26, 2018 |
simonlee: Stay there dey form superhero until the day wey dem go join beat you follow..
James Bond... abi Peter Glue ni ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) And you claim you are a doctor? Garbage in, Garbage out |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by ameri9ja: 11:43am On Mar 26, 2018 |
Hearty kudos to you bro, if all u said is approximate true. God bless u.
But some of the wickedness and heartless mess exhibited by thieves?!
Still, # SayNoToJungleJustice!!! # SayNoToJungleJustice!!! # SayNoToJungleJustice!!! |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by kullozone(m): 11:45am On Mar 26, 2018 |
simonlee: . Your popsy gave you his phone to charge for him and you're using to post rubbish ehn? |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by iamjavadem(m): 11:47am On Mar 26, 2018 |
God bless you Henry. |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by salvationproject(m): 11:51am On Mar 26, 2018 |
God bless this guy cause if no be him, JagabanXclusive for don carry am"lady, burnt alive for stealing in onitsha" |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by boyjo: 12:06pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
khalhokage: Facebook user Henry Ikenna Ugwu posted a the horrifying tale of what almost befell an innocent woman.
True Story: How I Saved a Girl from Jungle Justice in Onitsha
Last Saturday, I was traveling to Imo state. I stopped over at Onitsha, picked a bike to Upper Iweka to drop at another park where I would board another bus. As I was paying the bike man, I sighted a dark rough-looking man drag a girl by her blouse. The force was so much that, instantly, the girl’s blouse was torn.
The man went ahead to push her down and started dragging her along the floor. Because I had been rounded by passenger hustlers, I had to pay for my ticket ASAP considering that the bus was about leaving. But they didn’t have change.
They were running around for change when I looked again and saw that the girl had been stripped to her pants, battered and still being dragged on the floor. By this time, it wasn’t the man alone; a crowd of men (emphasis on MEN) had joined him. They surrounded her. I could hardly see her as the men were shouting, “O zuru ori” (“She stole”). I was confused. I have never witnessed jungle justice like this in my life.
The men who had gathered were all hefty, rugged-looking, thick-voiced – you know the regular Upper Iweka agberos. The girl kept screaming yet her voice was completely swallowed up by the men. People were filming already with their phones, and screaming “Kpo ya oku” (“Set her ablaze”).
Concerned, I asked a woman seated close to me to go there and save the girl. Maybe they’d respect her as an elder. She replied, “Look at this one. It seems you’re new here. Leave them. She stole. Let them kill her.” A man in the bus chipped in: “That was how one girl entered my aunty’s shade, said she was on her period and she needed to wear pad, only for her to enter my aunty’s shade and steal all her money. If no be say I dey inside bus now I for join hand beat am.”
So, we would just fold our hands and watch someone burn to death? But I couldn’t. I looked at a guy in the front seat – he was about my age. He smiled and winked at me (maybe it was his own way of saying, “That was the right thing you said”) and proceeded to tell another man recording the incident to stop; he asked the man if he would be recording if it was his sister there. That statement alone impressed me. I was relieved I wasn’t alone. I told him to come down from the bus. When he did, I appealed to him to help me save the girl. He nodded and asked how we would do that.
I pointed at a pure water seller. “Buy four,” I said. He did. “Now when I get into that crowd splash the water.” He said Okay. No objection.
I pressed into the crowd and he splashed the water. Reacting to that, the crowd dispersed a little. I could see the girl and the man who had accused her. I went straight to the man and held him by his belt, asking him what the girl stole. At first, my intention was to convince the crowd that whatever she stole was not enough to kill her. And because stealing is a sin, killing her is another sin. Two wrongs don’t make a right. I wanted to solicit for pardon. For her to be handed over to the police. But I was shivering within me yet I was able to scream over and over, “Wetin she steal?!”.
All the man said was: “Somebody stole something in main market and she is the person”. The woman who was in the bus with me had already appeared. She asked the man, “And you didn’t catch the person in Main Market?” That was how sense entered their heads. The crowd started asking the girl what she stole. She made it clear that she didn’t steal anything, that she was buying something and felt a sharp push, and the next thing she was there on the floor. That she hasn’t been to Main Market. Suddenly, the Accuser pushed through the crowd and started running.
Apparently, he wasn’t alone in whatever he was planning. A keke pulled up, he jumped in and drove off. Later, someone would say that this was a new style of kidnapping. Apparently, they had wanted to drag the girl into the keke and drive off with her in the guise of taking her to the police station. Obviously, they lost control.
The women started raining curses on the Accuser as they helped the teary girl with clothes. Some men took it upon themselves to find him and beat him up. The bus conductor handed me my change and asked me to get in the bus. On our way out I took this pic below, a cluster of people apologizing to the girl.
I am sharing this story because I want us all, especially young people, to stand up against jungle justice anywhere. Add your voice and help rescue the situation instead of standing there, recording with your phone or complaining about it. You can start by sharing this so others can find courage too. # SayNoToJungleJustice
PS: Women need to wake up in this country and know that they have as much power as the men. Knowing how much women have suffered in the hands of patriarchy in this country and around the world, how can you see a crowd of men surrounding a woman and you just wave it off and continue with what you’re doing?
https://mbasic.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1712193372160930&id=100001108511023&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.1712193372160930%3Atl_objid.1712193372160930%3Athrowback_story_fbid.1712193372160930%3Athid.100001108511023%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1522565999%3A-5577471106097374752&__tn__=%2As-R God has blessed you real good Henry.. |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Born2Breed(f): 12:20pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
khalhokage: Facebook user Henry Ikenna Ugwu posted a the horrifying tale of what almost befell an innocent woman.
True Story: How I Saved a Girl from Jungle Justice in Onitsha
Last Saturday, I was traveling to Imo state. I stopped over at Onitsha, picked a bike to Upper Iweka to drop at another park where I would board another bus. As I was paying the bike man, I sighted a dark rough-looking man drag a girl by her blouse. The force was so much that, instantly, the girl’s blouse was torn.
The man went ahead to push her down and started dragging her along the floor. Because I had been rounded by passenger hustlers, I had to pay for my ticket ASAP considering that the bus was about leaving. But they didn’t have change.
They were running around for change when I looked again and saw that the girl had been stripped to her pants, battered and still being dragged on the floor. By this time, it wasn’t the man alone; a crowd of men (emphasis on MEN) had joined him. They surrounded her. I could hardly see her as the men were shouting, “O zuru ori” (“She stole”). I was confused. I have never witnessed jungle justice like this in my life.
The men who had gathered were all hefty, rugged-looking, thick-voiced – you know the regular Upper Iweka agberos. The girl kept screaming yet her voice was completely swallowed up by the men. People were filming already with their phones, and screaming “Kpo ya oku” (“Set her ablaze”).
Concerned, I asked a woman seated close to me to go there and save the girl. Maybe they’d respect her as an elder. She replied, “Look at this one. It seems you’re new here. Leave them. She stole. Let them kill her.” A man in the bus chipped in: “That was how one girl entered my aunty’s shade, said she was on her period and she needed to wear pad, only for her to enter my aunty’s shade and steal all her money. If no be say I dey inside bus now I for join hand beat am.”
So, we would just fold our hands and watch someone burn to death? But I couldn’t. I looked at a guy in the front seat – he was about my age. He smiled and winked at me (maybe it was his own way of saying, “That was the right thing you said”) and proceeded to tell another man recording the incident to stop; he asked the man if he would be recording if it was his sister there. That statement alone impressed me. I was relieved I wasn’t alone. I told him to come down from the bus. When he did, I appealed to him to help me save the girl. He nodded and asked how we would do that.
I pointed at a pure water seller. “Buy four,” I said. He did. “Now when I get into that crowd splash the water.” He said Okay. No objection.
I pressed into the crowd and he splashed the water. Reacting to that, the crowd dispersed a little. I could see the girl and the man who had accused her. I went straight to the man and held him by his belt, asking him what the girl stole. At first, my intention was to convince the crowd that whatever she stole was not enough to kill her. And because stealing is a sin, killing her is another sin. Two wrongs don’t make a right. I wanted to solicit for pardon. For her to be handed over to the police. But I was shivering within me yet I was able to scream over and over, “Wetin she steal?!”.
All the man said was: “Somebody stole something in main market and she is the person”. The woman who was in the bus with me had already appeared. She asked the man, “And you didn’t catch the person in Main Market?” That was how sense entered their heads. The crowd started asking the girl what she stole. She made it clear that she didn’t steal anything, that she was buying something and felt a sharp push, and the next thing she was there on the floor. That she hasn’t been to Main Market. Suddenly, the Accuser pushed through the crowd and started running.
Apparently, he wasn’t alone in whatever he was planning. A keke pulled up, he jumped in and drove off. Later, someone would say that this was a new style of kidnapping. Apparently, they had wanted to drag the girl into the keke and drive off with her in the guise of taking her to the police station. Obviously, they lost control.
The women started raining curses on the Accuser as they helped the teary girl with clothes. Some men took it upon themselves to find him and beat him up. The bus conductor handed me my change and asked me to get in the bus. On our way out I took this pic below, a cluster of people apologizing to the girl.
I am sharing this story because I want us all, especially young people, to stand up against jungle justice anywhere. Add your voice and help rescue the situation instead of standing there, recording with your phone or complaining about it. You can start by sharing this so others can find courage too. # SayNoToJungleJustice
PS: Women need to wake up in this country and know that they have as much power as the men. Knowing how much women have suffered in the hands of patriarchy in this country and around the world, how can you see a crowd of men surrounding a woman and you just wave it off and continue with what you’re doing?
https://mbasic.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1712193372160930&id=100001108511023&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.1712193372160930%3Atl_objid.1712193372160930%3Athrowback_story_fbid.1712193372160930%3Athid.100001108511023%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1522565999%3A-5577471106097374752&__tn__=%2As-R You just saved a soul. Our people don't ask questions they just mumuishly react. |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by donqx: 12:20pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
oh |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Afritop(m): 12:26pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
Good move. But those who were busy videoing the event should be rounded up. The picture of the guy could be on their phone and where investigations can commence |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Dcholeric: 12:43pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
nice one but I smell hypocrisy... if it were to be a man (since men are more affected by this kind of jungle justice) will he have intervened ?
all the same jungle justice is bad...nice one bro |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by MahatmaGhandi: 12:49pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
You were just lucky bro, the general rule is that if you ask a mob that is ready to lynch a suspect to stop, they would drag you in as an accomplice and succeeded because the suspect is a lady. If the suspect was a guy dem for add you join oooo. This is the sad tale of Nigeria. Kudos to the person, you did more than I could have done. 1 Like |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by nwadiuko1(m): 12:50pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
you are a hero bro.... trying this in Aba (without being armed or appearing to be a force man ) will have dire consequences |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by BetaThings: 1:38pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
So what is next after commenting on this thread
I am sure an innocent person is being tortured right now over something he did not do Should we not be talking about sensitisation in public places |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by BetaThings: 1:47pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
Passy089:
...immediately 3 touts grabbed the guy and started searching and found 11,750 on him.... she looked inside one of her bags and saw 11,570.....she now rushed to the mob and told Them she is sorry that she has seen her missing money.... .....those touts disappeared with his phone and other valuables. he was loosened and taken to hospital later..... the woman too disappeared. this guy could have died for something he knew nothing about If you gather 4 Nigerians in one place, you would be hard put to get 1 who is truly honest; you can only get 0.5 truly honest one out of the four I am sorry, that is my opinion They want to kill a man over N11,750 but they stole his phone and valuables that would be more than N11,750 1 Like |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Laralag: 1:48pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
This is too scary!!! who is safe in this country |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by asmovic(m): 2:14pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
post=66167064: Good job Mr Henry.
In other news: She was the love of my life until she posted "Mama I maked it" instead of "Mama I maid it" you and her are the same. better go and apologize to her and continue with your relationship. if not in your words, what is the meaning of 'mama i MAID it'? |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Uzorgod(m): 2:28pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
You are God sent. |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Oreofepeters: 2:42pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
To be frank Nigeria is doom, by now God is not happy with us. Alot of innocent blood has been spilled on this land. Through this rubish jungle Justice, why should people take law into their hands when we have more than enough law enforcement agencies?. This kinda thing doesn't happen in saner climes, I repeat this kinda thing doesn't occur in a saner climes. Part of the reason we remain shithole cos we careless about life.
White people view life precious just the way God view it.
But an average black man heart is wicked......
#SayNoTojunglejustice |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Sapiosexuality(m): 2:53pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
Good. We need hearts like his around not demons wearing a human face. But how do people find it easy to tape murder? How do they do it? I couldn't even watch the ALUU 4 tape beyond 1 second. How do they do it live? Does it a lot of Nigerians are devils in human clothing? I wish I can solve one need of that dude. He did well. |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by Ham5ter(m): 3:13pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
khalhokage: The apologetic mob Bro you just saved a little girls life from animals...may the hardship of this country dissipate wherever you go |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by sykah(f): 3:28pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
I would never support jungle Justice... #saynotojunglejustice# |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by esecoal(m): 4:08pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
@respect khalhokage: Facebook user Henry Ikenna Ugwu posted a the horrifying tale of what almost befell an innocent woman.
True Story: How I Saved a Girl from Jungle Justice in Onitsha
Last Saturday, I was traveling to Imo state. I stopped over at Onitsha, picked a bike to Upper Iweka to drop at another park where I would board another bus. As I was paying the bike man, I sighted a dark rough-looking man drag a girl by her blouse. The force was so much that, instantly, the girl’s blouse was torn.
The man went ahead to push her down and started dragging her along the floor. Because I had been rounded by passenger hustlers, I had to pay for my ticket ASAP considering that the bus was about leaving. But they didn’t have change.
They were running around for change when I looked again and saw that the girl had been stripped to her pants, battered and still being dragged on the floor. By this time, it wasn’t the man alone; a crowd of men (emphasis on MEN) had joined him. They surrounded her. I could hardly see her as the men were shouting, “O zuru ori” (“She stole”). I was confused. I have never witnessed jungle justice like this in my life.
The men who had gathered were all hefty, rugged-looking, thick-voiced – you know the regular Upper Iweka agberos. The girl kept screaming yet her voice was completely swallowed up by the men. People were filming already with their phones, and screaming “Kpo ya oku” (“Set her ablaze”).
Concerned, I asked a woman seated close to me to go there and save the girl. Maybe they’d respect her as an elder. She replied, “Look at this one. It seems you’re new here. Leave them. She stole. Let them kill her.” A man in the bus chipped in: “That was how one girl entered my aunty’s shade, said she was on her period and she needed to wear pad, only for her to enter my aunty’s shade and steal all her money. If no be say I dey inside bus now I for join hand beat am.”
So, we would just fold our hands and watch someone burn to death? But I couldn’t. I looked at a guy in the front seat – he was about my age. He smiled and winked at me (maybe it was his own way of saying, “That was the right thing you said”) and proceeded to tell another man recording the incident to stop; he asked the man if he would be recording if it was his sister there. That statement alone impressed me. I was relieved I wasn’t alone. I told him to come down from the bus. When he did, I appealed to him to help me save the girl. He nodded and asked how we would do that.
I pointed at a pure water seller. “Buy four,” I said. He did. “Now when I get into that crowd splash the water.” He said Okay. No objection.
I pressed into the crowd and he splashed the water. Reacting to that, the crowd dispersed a little. I could see the girl and the man who had accused her. I went straight to the man and held him by his belt, asking him what the girl stole. At first, my intention was to convince the crowd that whatever she stole was not enough to kill her. And because stealing is a sin, killing her is another sin. Two wrongs don’t make a right. I wanted to solicit for pardon. For her to be handed over to the police. But I was shivering within me yet I was able to scream over and over, “Wetin she steal?!”.
All the man said was: “Somebody stole something in main market and she is the person”. The woman who was in the bus with me had already appeared. She asked the man, “And you didn’t catch the person in Main Market?” That was how sense entered their heads. The crowd started asking the girl what she stole. She made it clear that she didn’t steal anything, that she was buying something and felt a sharp push, and the next thing she was there on the floor. That she hasn’t been to Main Market. Suddenly, the Accuser pushed through the crowd and started running.
Apparently, he wasn’t alone in whatever he was planning. A keke pulled up, he jumped in and drove off. Later, someone would say that this was a new style of kidnapping. Apparently, they had wanted to drag the girl into the keke and drive off with her in the guise of taking her to the police station. Obviously, they lost control.
The women started raining curses on the Accuser as they helped the teary girl with clothes. Some men took it upon themselves to find him and beat him up. The bus conductor handed me my change and asked me to get in the bus. On our way out I took this pic below, a cluster of people apologizing to the girl.
I am sharing this story because I want us all, especially young people, to stand up against jungle justice anywhere. Add your voice and help rescue the situation instead of standing there, recording with your phone or complaining about it. You can start by sharing this so others can find courage too. # SayNoToJungleJustice
PS: Women need to wake up in this country and know that they have as much power as the men. Knowing how much women have suffered in the hands of patriarchy in this country and around the world, how can you see a crowd of men surrounding a woman and you just wave it off and continue with what you’re doing?
https://mbasic.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1712193372160930&id=100001108511023&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.1712193372160930%3Atl_objid.1712193372160930%3Athrowback_story_fbid.1712193372160930%3Athid.100001108511023%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1522565999%3A-5577471106097374752&__tn__=%2As-R |
Re: How I Saved A Girl From Jungle Justice In Onitsha - Henry Ikenna Ugwu by bskyb(m): 4:11pm On Mar 26, 2018 |
ijemz:
Fool . What if that was your sister that was saved? Anu ofia Well done. At least, he was ashamed enough to delete that thoughtless post |