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THE NINE LIES OF TODAY’S CHURCH -by Andrew Strom.

-A call for massive ‘Reformation’ – before it is too late.

It is a sad fact that today’s church is deceiving itself in some very crucial areas. Below are some plain facts (-absolutely true) that may shock a few people:

1. “Ask Jesus into our heart” is not in the Bible. Neither is “Give your heart to the Lord”, or repeating a “sinner’s prayer”. These practices do not exist in Scripture at all. The subject of salvation is the most important subject in the Bible and we are being lied to about it. These doctrines are a total fabrication. They were invented to make salvation “quick and convenient”. Many church members today who are relying on these things are clearly not ‘saved’ at all.

2. Church buildings do not exist in the Bible. They were invented around 200-300 AD, when the church was in serious decline. Only a backslidden church could fall so far away from the simplicity of the early church. Church buildings are anti-New Testament, and bring with them a host of problems and traditions. It was basically when the church fell into the hands of Rome that this concept of the “cathedral” really took over. And we are still spending millions on these monuments today.

3. The “one pastor runs everything” model is totally unscriptural. Far from running everything, in the book of Acts we find the word “pastor” NOT EVEN USED ONCE. (-The early church did have strong leaders and elders. But it was never a “one man band” like we see today. And never was it so “controlling” either).

4. “Tithing” is not a New Testament practice at all. And it is being shamefully abused by today’s preachers. In the New Testament we are told to give cheerfully – whatever we purpose in our hearts to give. Telling people that they MUST give 10% to the church or they are “robbing God” is totally sick – and a money-grubbing way of twisting Scripture. There is no evidence that the apostles EVER preached ‘tithing’ to New Testament believers. It was clearly regarded as an Old Testament practice.

5. The words “prosper” or ‘prosperity’ were NEVER used by Jesus at all – and only exist a couple of times in the entire New Testament. Yet greedy preachers have built whole kingdoms upon them. The words – “sell what you have and give to the poor” and “deceitfulness of riches” and “you cannot serve God and mammon” and “woe to you that are rich” were DEFINITELY used by Jesus and the apostles. But we don’t hear these things preached too much, do we?

6. There were no Bible Colleges, Seminaries or degrees in the New Testament. The only people who seemed to have “Bible Schools” were the Scribes and Pharisees! The apostles were simple fishermen and tax collectors. It is likely that a number of them could not even read or write. What was their “qualification” for being in the ministry? Simply that they had SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH JESUS. The fact that people expect a “professional clergy” today with degrees from Bible College has helped to make the church sicker and more unscriptural than ever. Simple humble people with a calling from God often cannot get to minister because they do not have a “piece of paper” to make them ‘qualified’. -Yet another disaster for the church.

7. There is almost no evidence whatsoever that the early church had their “main meeting” on a Sunday. They gathered together ‘from house to house’ virtually every day! There were no church buildings. They did not dress up and “go to church”. There were no denominations. There were no separate groups with different ‘labels’. They lived their lives together – all the Christians in the local area. Love and fellowship and ‘koinonia’ were as natural to them as breathing. And the apostles in Jerusalem preached every day at huge open-air gatherings. -Not “hidden away” inside four walls. This was truly a “street church” in every way.

8. The idea that you can replace the moving of the Holy Spirit with programs, programs and more programs just shows how low we have sunk. Man-made programs are everywhere today. The early church had much more of God and much less of ‘man’.

9. We preach a ‘humanistic’ Jesus today. -A Jesus who exists mainly for our own “happiness”. A Santa Claus who wants to rain down continual blessings upon us. A God of grace and mercy without judgement, righteousness or truth. Our gross misrepresentation of who Jesus really is, is one of the most serious offenses of the modern church. Today’s church seems to worship a “plastic” Jesus – one that she has made in her own image. What an offense to God.

A lot of preachers are well aware that there is something very wrong with the church today. They know there is little ‘fear of the Lord’. They know there is no deep repentance or deep moving of the Holy Spirit. They know that it is just the same old “game” being played every week. A lot of them are very aware of this. But they will not do anything about it. They will not rock the boat. And they will “squash” anyone who comes along trying to do something. They do not want a real “shaking”. There is too much to lose. They have their careers and their little ‘kingdoms’ at stake. This is the real truth of the matter. This is where the rubber truly meets the road.

That is why God is about to bring “Great Reformation”. He will not put up with these ‘hirelings’ any longer. He will not have them as leaders over His people. A lot of them are about to “lose their heads”. They will never lead God’s people again.

This is what true ‘Reformation’ is all about. It is the process of replacing the old leadership and the old lies. -It is David taking over from ‘Saul’.

There is a ‘New Wineskin’ coming. In fact it is upon us. There is a new leadership arising – many of them trained in the ‘wilderness’ for such a time as this. The hour is now here. LET THE NEW LEADERS ARISE! The sad fact is that today’s church has sunk so low that it is almost a matter of people needing to be RESCUED OUT OF HER. I never thought I would say something as radical as that, but it is the truth.

Much of the church is living a lie. Many inside her are told continuously that they are “OK” – that they are saved and headed for heaven. Nothing could be further from the truth. Multitudes of them are headed directly for hell. The systemized LYING that is going on has deceived the leaders and the people alike. It is the blind leading the blind. We need to contend for these people – desperately. Much of the church is “lost”. They are mired in deception – an entire system of deception.

Kindest regards in Christ,

Andrew Strom.
https://ajtony./9-lies-of-the-modern-church/

enimooko:
One more time....Acts of Apostles 15:1-41

That ranpunzel seems to suffer from psychotic delusion... He would read those verses (Acts15:1-41) upside down & come back here to argue blindly.

achorladey:

"AMONG YOU" is directed to who? Please choose A. Jehovah's witnesses alone. B.Christians alone as they were known in the first century and now.
Carrying weapons alone is not the only requirement that identifies peaceful people.

Great simplification. Jehovah's witnesses alone! Because we're the only group that's ever willing to accept correction and it's obvious as you're all witnesses to the fact that we're always changing our viewpoints whenever the need arises,on the other hand your folks won't agree to change but instead some will just gather and start another religious group then keep referring to those who ignored the correction as Christians thus complicating issues with different doctrines and contradicting teachings in the same generation! That's why we're saying if you're not one of Jehovah's witnesses, you can't possibly be worshipping our own God!

achorladey:

"AMONG YOU" is directed to who? Please choose A. Jehovah's witnesses alone. B.Christians alone as they were known in the first century and now.
Carrying weapons alone is not the only requirement that identifies peaceful people.

Please Sir Jesus said there will be false leaders in the last days, blind guides that will lead many to destruction. Are we living in that last days? If so where are those false leaders today? Can they also claim to be Christians? Then how can we know those who are true Christians? Should we accept all of them as Christians and ignore Jesus words?

They will say this one is persecution but will be d first to sling mud..

Riofidelio:
That's the evidence showing the real meaning of what is Jesus was saying back then! If you're seeing people with questionable characters yet trying to be "submissive" and ever willing to be "obedient" under some strict rules. What is that telling you? Of course that means they're not some gullible morons under a spell as you think! They're intelligent individuals having the traits of Adam(Sinners) but trying to exchange the old personality for a new one! Well if you must know Jehovah's witnesses are those who have agreed that they're sinners but are willing to be corrected under an organized setting, unlike you who think sinners should be stigmatized. Our Master, Lord and King never drove sinners away but kept putting up with their sinful conditions because THEY ARE WILLING TO OBEY INSTRUCTIONS! (Matthew 9:10-13) Sorry Mummy GO i never wanted to respond to your thread because it's obvious you just want to argue but we're not for arguments rather we're searching for "fellow sinners" who are aware of their conditions and willing to change! God bless you.

you seem to have some honesty unlike ur folks who would av denied d existence of such... However, did Jesus say u should manage sin? I tot wat he came to give is a transformed life.

Riofidelio:
Hmmmmmmmmm well Mummy GO, you're filled with the Wholy Ghost but it's like you still need someone to interpret the Bible for you so as to grasp the message. If you must know since i'm a SINNER,the wages of sin is death and there's no distinction in SIN that's the "old personality" (Colossians 3:9,Ephessians 4:22)So whatever is termed as SIN,please Ma i'm guilty as charged because i was born,bread and brought up in SIN therefore death is upon my head that's why i needed the random sacrifice of Jesus to wash me clean and an organization to continue associating so as to be encouraged to put on a new personality (with which i wasn't born)

ACHORLADEY: yet you preach to people that we are made in Gods image. No man is born to hate or dislike his fellow man. Its what we learn to do overtime.

Colossians 3:10 in order to love with fine works. 1Corinthians 6:9-11,2Timothy 3:16,17 and Hebrews 10:24,25

John17:17
God's word will sanctify us clean very well than any other visible organisation headed by imperfect men will do. The governing body I know preach this as well.

Heb 10:24-25
When you preach as one of JWs and conduct bible studies do you see that as gathering an inciting others to fine works?

salvation101:
you seem to have some honesty unlike ur folks who would av denied d existence of such... However, did Jesus say u should manage sin? I tot wat he came to give is a transformed life.

Please Ma Peter denied Jesus before been baptized by the Holy Spirit, which is understandable. But he still denied the gentile Christians before the Jewish Christians and Paul openly rebuked Peter then corrected that hypocrisy immediately,Because Jesus has died, resurrected, returned to heaven and sent the Holy Spirit of which Peter was a baptismal candidate! So if Peter had been transformed (having no traits of sin) please how can you explain what happened while trying to convince a pagan that Christianity is better than paganism? Galatians 2:11-19

salvation101:
They will say this one is persecution but will be d first to sling mud..

There is wrongdoing and malicious blunders in all forms of religion but that doesn't change the fact that the true God has a people for HIS name! These people will surely have wrongdoers in their midst as long has the Messiah has not come to destroy all evildoers. God will not approve all forms of worship because Israelites have wayward ones in their midst. Please Ma i think you're not getting the sense of what we're saying, we're not saying there is no wrongdoings happening in our midst, what we're saying is that Jesus Christ formed a group and warned His followers that false groups will also spring up through Satan's manipulations. So our main concern now is how to identify or distinguish between the group Jesus formed back then and those false counterfeit ones Satan initiated and still initiating today? Please it's this research that made millions now living to conclude that we've found that one and only group of Jesus those in it are going to confront others with boldness and freeness of speech, however since God's Kingdom has not come to destroy evildoers there's no way they can totally eradicate evil from their midst! What we're targeting are those SIGNS and CLUES Jesus gave to identify those practicing pure worship amongst whom the Holy Spirit is operating, and the work of the Holy Spirit in our time to benefit those practicing pure worship.

Riofidelio:
Great simplification. Jehovah's witnesses alone! Because we're the only group that's ever willing to accept correction and it's obvious as you're all witnesses to the fact that we're always changing our viewpoints whenever the need arises,on the other hand your folks won't agree to change but instead some will just gather and start another religious group then keep referring to those who ignored the correction as Christians thus complicating issues with different doctrines and contradicting teachings in the same generation! That's why we're saying if you're not one of Jehovah's witnesses, you can't possibly be worshipping our own God!

Conversation carried over from the term "AMONG YOU" highlighted by Riofidelio in James 3:15-18

Riofidelio: Great simplification. Jehovah's witnesses alone!

Achorladey: This is a pure LIE. James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings. If you had said Christians it would have save you this embarrassment.

Riofidelio: Because we're the only group that's ever willing to accept correction and it's obvious as you're all witnesses to the fact that we're always changing our viewpoints whenever the need arises,on the other hand your folks won't agree to change but instead some will just gather and start another religious group then keep referring to those who ignored the correction as Christians thus complicating issues with different doctrines and contradicting teachings in the same generation!

Achorladey: Those new viewpoint tagged "present truth/latest understanding" the old viewpoint tagged past truth/past understanding. Just be sure in the organisation you subscribed too there are future truth/future understanding as well. But know this, be it past truth, present truth, future truth none is greater than what is recorded in John 14:6. Matthew 5:43-48, Matthew 22:37-39, John 3:16 these set of "Truth" need no correction or adjustment or legislation and you cannot authoritatively say the "folks" do not believe this.

Riofidelio:That's why we're saying if you're not one of Jehovah's witnesses, you can't possibly be worshipping our own God!

Achorladey: Acts 10: 34-36 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. 36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.

Finally, I just hope you've not given others more reason not to see the Jws as Christians

Wunmifun:
Please Sir Jesus said there will be false leaders in the last days, blind guides that will lead many to destruction. Are we living in that last days? If so where are those false leaders today? Can they also claim to be Christians? Then how can we know those who are true Christians? Should we accept all of them as Christians and ignore Jesus words?

Wunmifun: Please Sir Jesus said there will be false leaders in the last days,

Achorladey: AGREED, but is the governing body of Jehovah's witnesses included? Yes/No.

Wunmifun: blind guides that will lead many to destruction.

Achorladey: AGREED, The Governing Body admit they are not infallible, inspired, and they err in organization direction. Many would have followed such error and die.
Do you also see them as blind guides?

Wunmifun:Are we living in that last days?

Achorladey: Yes!!!

Wunmifun: If so where are those false leaders today?

Achorladey: Scattered all over the religious denominations(the JWs not an exception) present today just like weeds among wheat Matthew 13:24-30, 37-39.

Wunmifun: Can they also claim to be Christians?

Achorladey: Yes, they can, who am I to claim on their behalf that they are not. JWs believe they are Christians while other religious denominations say the JWs are not Christians.

Wunmifun: Then how can we know those who are true Christians?

Achorladey: if today were to be the Judgement day, the angels will do the separation as directed by the king himself Jesus Christ. Matthew 13: 37-39. but as of now, those who subscribe to the term Christianity. 1 Peter 2:21-23. Followers of Christ, not men, not religious organisation John 14:6.

Wunmifun: Should we accept all of them as Christians and ignore Jesus words?

Achorladey: When you talk "accept" it can be encompassing. There are many things under the world "accept". Your not accepting someone behaviour in the JW congregation does not mean he is not a JW. A person disfellowshipped from the congregation of JWs does not lose his fellowship with God. Jehovah does not abandon lost or weak sheep. Infact he left the 99 to seek for one. Those you tagged "false leader" or false Christian stands or fall at the call of their master Romans. 14:4 Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. Mine is not to tell you one to accept or reject. Follow the leader himself, Christ. Jesus is ready and willing to lead you to Jehovah.

salvation101:
Ajeri jehova dat is does d work of a native doctor.. We know wat u guys do here so u also harbor sex abusers just cos u are trying to protect one yeye image. No wonder ur guys can be so vulgar wen dey abuse on dis board. Most certain u a pedophile

How in your manner of thinking would you say so careless a thing like this?
How most certain are you he is a pedophile?, have you any proofs?
This is contrary to your earlier claim that you have never insulted anyone first.
I figured out that All arguing and No romance makes you a dull babe. Come with me to za oza room and let me exhaust you in a steamy affection from the curves of the bosom down below the lubricating thighs.

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achorladey:


Wunmifun: Please Sir Jesus said there will be false leaders in the last days,

Achorladey: AGREED, but is the governing body of Jehovah's witnesses included? Yes/No.

Wunmifun: blind guides that will lead many to destruction.

Achorladey: AGREED, The Governing Body admit they are not infallible, inspired, and they err in organization direction. Many would have followed such error and die.
Do you also see them as blind guides?

Wunmifun:Are we living in that last days?

Achorladey: Yes!!!

Wunmifun: If so where are those false leaders today?

Achorladey: Scattered all over the religious denominations(the JWs not an exception) present today just like weeds among wheat Matthew 13:24-30, 37-39.

Wunmifun: Can they also claim to be Christians?

Achorladey: Yes, they can, who am I to claim on their behalf that they are not. JWs believe they are Christians while other religious denominations say the JWs are not Christians.

Wunmifun: Then how can we know those who are true Christians?

Achorladey: if today were to be the Judgement day, the angels will do the separation as directed by the king himself Jesus Christ. Matthew 13: 37-39. but as of now, those who subscribe to the term Christianity. 1 Peter 2:21-23. Followers of Christ, not men, not religious organisation John 14:6.

Wunmifun: Should we accept all of them as Christians and ignore Jesus words?

Achorladey: When you talk "accept" it can be encompassing. There are many things under the world "accept". Your not accepting someone behaviour in the JW congregation does not mean he is not a JW. A person disfellowshipped from the congregation of JWs does not lose his fellowship with God. Jehovah does not abandon lost or weak sheep. Infact he left the 99 to seek for one. Those you tagged "false leader" or false Christian stands or fall at the call of their master Romans. 14:4 Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. Mine is not to tell you one to accept or reject. Follow the leader himself, Christ. Jesus is ready and willing to lead you to Jehovah.

It's like you quoted Jesus' illustration of the fine seed and the weed at Matthew 13, Jehovah's witnesses believe that the gathering of the weeds and binding them by bash is happening right now,because people are automatically moving to the religion of their choice unknowing to them that it's a divine separation according to people's heart conditions. I for my part studied with JWs and agreed due to hearing what people want from their hearts which made them join certain religious groups.For example people who wish enemies eternal torment,people who disgusts facial attraction(beauty and makeovers),lovers of casual sex,lovers of music and dance,arrogance,domineering,polygamists,vengeful and so on.For each of these attitudes a Church has been designed so that you'll choose what suits your mind. But it's not possible for anyone to wake up one day and say "i like to be a JW" if not preached to with consistent study along with encouragement and motivation before conviction! I'm sorry Sir in as much as you've tried to equate all these religious groups,there is no sincerity in your conclusion!

unbitchable:

How in your manner of thinking would you say so careless a thing like this?
How most certain are you he is a pedophile?, have you any proofs?
This is contrary to your earlier claim that you have never insulted anyone first.
I figured out that All arguing and No romance makes you a dull babe. Come with me to za oza room and let me exhaust you in a steamy affection from the curves of the bosom down below the lubricating thighs.

Brother said "as a sinner,he's guilty of ANY charge since death is the penalty for all sin and there is NO distinction" i believe him because the Bible said so, but my question is "which religious group is exceptional when talking about sinners?"

unbitchable:

How in your manner of thinking would you say so careless a thing like this?
How most certain are you he is a pedophile?, have you any proofs?
This is contrary to your earlier claim that you have never insulted anyone first.
I figured out that All arguing and No romance makes you a dull babe. Come with me to za oza room and let me exhaust you in a steamy affection from the curves of the bosom down below the lubricating thighs.

JW spotted. Riofidelio, Emiooko come and see ur member. No shame, even on d internet. Wat other proof do u need. If u can talk like dis over d internet to someone u don't even know, u can also be a rapist knowing ur society will cover ur tracks

Wunmifun:
Brother said "as a sinner,he's guilty of ANY charge since death is the penalty for all sin and there is NO distinction" i believe him because the Bible said so, but my question is "which religious group is exceptional when talking about sinners?"

Which do you think is exceptional or is your question rhetorical?

salvation101:
JW spotted. Riofidelio, Emiooko come and see ur member. No shame, even on d internet. Wat other proof do u need. If u can talk like dis over d internet to someone u don't even know, u can also be a rapist knowing ur society will cover ur tracks

Nah, nah, nah, nah.. Don't you ever play this card on me, only a big f00l would. You referred to me as a probable rapist as in the same vein you called Rio a pedo. It's a pointer to the fact that your mindset is slovenly, so much so a reflection of your being senseless.
And Yes, I want you in za oza room if only a modicum of sense is sexually transmitted. You surely in dire need of it. Also I have equally known you long enough, ask your soul about me.
Lastly, not everyone is a Jw, let it sink in.

Wunmifun:
It's like you quoted Jesus' illustration of the fine seed and the weed at Matthew 13, Jehovah's witnesses believe that the gathering of the weeds and binding them by bash is happening right now,because people are automatically moving to the religion of their choice unknowing to them that it's a divine separation according to people's heart conditions. I for my part studied with JWs and agreed due to hearing what people want from their hearts which made them join certain religious groups.For example people who wish enemies eternal torment,people who disgusts facial attraction(beauty and makeovers),lovers of casual sex,lovers of music and dance,arrogance,domineering,polygamists,vengeful and so on.For each of these attitudes a Church has been designed so that you'll choose what suits your mind. But it's not possible for anyone to wake up one day and say "i like to be a JW" if not preached to with consistent study along with encouragement and motivation before conviction! I'm sorry Sir in as much as you've tried to equate all these religious groups,there is no sincerity in your conclusion!

Wunmifun: It's like you quoted Jesus' illustration of the fine seed and the weed at Matthew 13,

Achorladey: You are correct on that I indeed cite Matthew 13: 24-30, 37-39

Wunmifun: Jehovah's witnesses believe that the gathering of the weeds and binding them by batch is happening right now, because people are automatically moving to the religion of their choice unknowing to them that it's a divine separation according to people's heart conditions.

Achorladey: I believe these separation has continually been carried out from the first century right down till our own day and I agree that its the heart motivation that God and Christ see not outward appearance or outside conformity to a religious organization "truth" "policy" or "decree".

Wunmifun: I for my part studied with JWs and agreed due to hearing what people want from their hearts which made them join certain religious groups. For example people who wish enemies eternal torment,people who disgusts facial attraction(beauty and makeovers), lovers of casual sex, lovers of music and dance,arrogance,domineering,polygamists,vengeful and so on. For each of these attitudes a Church has been designed so that you'll choose what suits your mind.

Achorladey:The Scriptures foretold the adulteration of the purity of the Christian community. They do not, however, set out a precise formula telling us how we today can identify some particular affiliation as THE one true religious fellowship with which to align ourselves. There are hundreds of denominations to choose from, all having a measure of truth and a measure of error, though the ratio of one to the other may vary. You wouldn't want to know the inside story of people who disgusts facial attraction(beauty and makeovers), lovers of casual sex, lovers of music and dance, arrogance, domineering, polygamists (exceptional cases), vengeful and so on as it applies to the Jehovah's witnesses. I am not against you becoming member of any religious groups or denomination because I cannot legislate on your conscience.

Wunmifun: But it's not possible for anyone to wake up one day and say "i like to be a JW" if not preached to with consistent study along with encouragement and motivation before conviction! I'm sorry Sir in as much as you've tried to equate all these religious groups,

Achorladey: But it's not possible for anyone to wake up one day and say "I like to be a cherubim and seraphim,celestial, catholic Pentecostal Protestant, a Muslim"e.t.c if not preached to with consistent study along with encouragement and motivation before conviction. I'm sorry ma/sir( which you and I need not be) the reality present in all of these religious denomination( JWs not an exception) and not the appearance of these religious denominations(JWs included) tells me John 14:6, 2 Timothy 3:16,17 Matthew 22:37-39 James 1: 26,27 one thing. All of them struggle/conflict to live up to those scriptures cited.

Wunmifun: there is no sincerity in your conclusion

Achorladey: It's your point of view you are entitled to it just as I am entitled to mine.

unbitchable:

Nah, nah, nah, nah.. Don't you ever play this card on me, only a big f00l would. You referred to me as a probable rapist as in the same vein you called Rio a pedo. It's a pointer to the fact that your mindset is slovenly, so much so a reflection of your being senseless.
And Yes, I want you in za oza room if only a modicum of sense is sexually transmitted. You surely in dire need of it. Also I have equally known you long enough, ask your soul about me.
Lastly, not everyone is a Jw, let it sink in.

keep barking, ur jw and can only deceive ursef, u can't deceive me.

salvation101:
keep barking, ur jw and can only deceive ursef, u can't deceive me.

You are only being illogical if you think anyone who hits your head with the truth is a Jw.
If you were my pet, I would name you Rebellion.
I could only hope you're not as rebellious in the sheet.

unbitchable:

You are only being illogical if you think anyone who hits your head with the truth is a Jw.
If you were my pet, I would name you Rebellion.
I could only hope you're not as rebellious in the sheet.

witch cry for night, pikin die for morning. Who no know say na d witch wey cry for night kill d pikin? I don tell you, you can't deceive me. You are JW nd bear d traits we read about dem. Nd ur other jw folks are proud of you right now. U think I av ur time ni? Fool ursef all u want

achorladey:


Wunmifun: It's like you quoted Jesus' illustration of the fine seed and the weed at Matthew 13,

Achorladey: You are correct on that I indeed cite Matthew 13: 24-30, 37-39

Wunmifun: Jehovah's witnesses believe that the gathering of the weeds and binding them by batch is happening right now, because people are automatically moving to the religion of their choice unknowing to them that it's a divine separation according to people's heart conditions.

Achorladey: I believe these separation has continually been carried out from the first century right down till our own day and I agree that its the heart motivation that God and Christ see not outward appearance or outside conformity to a religious organization "truth" "policy" or "decree".

Wunmifun: I for my part studied with JWs and agreed due to hearing what people want from their hearts which made them join certain religious groups. For example people who wish enemies eternal torment,people who disgusts facial attraction(beauty and makeovers), lovers of casual sex, lovers of music and dance,arrogance,domineering,polygamists,vengeful and so on. For each of these attitudes a Church has been designed so that you'll choose what suits your mind.

Achorladey:The Scriptures foretold the adulteration of the purity of the Christian community. They do not, however, set out a precise formula telling us how we today can identify some particular affiliation as THE one true religious fellowship with which to align ourselves. There are hundreds of denominations to choose from, all having a measure of truth and a measure of error, though the ratio of one to the other may vary. You wouldn't want to know the inside story of people who disgusts facial attraction(beauty and makeovers), lovers of casual sex, lovers of music and dance, arrogance, domineering, polygamists (exceptional cases), vengeful and so on as it applies to the Jehovah's witnesses. I am not against you becoming member of any religious groups or denomination because I cannot legislate on your conscience.

Wunmifun: But it's not possible for anyone to wake up one day and say "i like to be a JW" if not preached to with consistent study along with encouragement and motivation before conviction! I'm sorry Sir in as much as you've tried to equate all these religious groups,

Achorladey: But it's not possible for anyone to wake up one day and say "I like to be a cherubim and seraphim,celestial, catholic Pentecostal Protestant, a Muslim"e.t.c if not preached to with consistent study along with encouragement and motivation before conviction. I'm sorry ma/sir( which you and I need not be) the reality present in all of these religious denomination( JWs not an exception) and not the appearance of these religious denominations(JWs included) tells me John 14:6, 2 Timothy 3:16,17 Matthew 22:37-39 James 1: 26,27 one thing. All of them struggle/conflict to live up to those scriptures cited.

Wunmifun: there is no sincerity in your conclusion

Achorladey: It's your point of view you are entitled to it just as I am entitled to mine.

I agreed totally with your last statement "everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion" It's settled as you said. Each person has a conscience and i strongly believe that if you're saying the truth deep down in you you'll be happier than ever but when you know within yourself that you're just arguing blindly then you'll continue to feel deep down that a lot is missing! Please whatever you're doing,keep it up.

unbitchable:

Which do you think is exceptional or is your question rhetorical?

Don't mind me my brother, because this salvation mummy or whatever she calls herself is concentrating on wrongdoings of individuals and not the aftereffect of what each religious group is feeding her members. Forgetting that Judas Iscariot was a thief,liar,deceptive and traitor yet he was an Apostle of Christ! Does that invalidates Jesus' claim that "only His followers will be saved?" John 3:16 Or does that implies that God will consider non-Christians who aren't as bad as Judas Iscariot even when they had all the opportunity to join Christianity? Please brother i suggest rhetoric questions will solve the mystery!

LukeLook:
Your leaders say your jehovah will kill 99.9% - Did they really publish this?

The fellow need help .

OneJ:

That ranpunzel seems to suffer from psychotic delusion... He would read those verses (Acts15:1-41) upside down & come back here to argue blindly.

Funny .

Actually the fellow is deceiving himself and he knows, he has his usual style of evading points .. Which is show we where so so and so was explicitly stated in the Bible. He deliberately insert " Explicitly " which prove beyond doubt he knows prove exist but to deceive himself needs a direct statement . unknown to him the direct statement was derived from the prove in the bible proves


Pharisees also use this method in other to discredit Jesus Christ . Refusing to acknowledge him as messiah because nowhere in the Hebrew scriptures explicitly state that Jesus the son of Mary will be the Messiah .

Even at a time they say search the scripture and you will see no prophet arise from Galilee.

Its a deceivers tactic.

There is one fellow on this forum that knows how to handle him so well, @ peacefullove , whenever you read their conversations you will get to laugh as he tries to bail himself .

Jozzy4:




The fellow need help .

Yes oooooooooo the guy need help and urgently indeed!

Jozzy4:




The fellow need help .

he quoted it already but seems you didn't see it.

As for humans upon earth, on the side of Jehovah will be all those fully dedicated to him and who are faithfully following Jesus Christ; compared with earth's billions these are indeed few. ... On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent ..." Watchtower 1958 Oct 15 p.614