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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:26am On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
What is the meaning of Yahweh? I have asked you 3 times already. You have been negating Jehovah for too long to explain the alternative, Yahweh to me. When you criticize a thing you should be ready to defend the one that you purport.

Salvation101 kindly, please, tell me the meaning of Yahweh? If Yahweh means God, can it also be the Allah that the Muslims worship? Every Hebrew name signified something.

Jehovah gave us one name alone. He told Moses that he did not reveal his name to Abraham. Moses inquired of the name because he knows the value. Do not tell me that is it one of the names of God. That is heretical to say. Jehovah himself said in Exodus 3:15 Then God said once more to Moses:

“This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham,+ the God of Isaac,+ and the God of Jacob,+ has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever,+ and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation.

He said THIS IS and not THESE ARE

He wants to be remembered by his name and not by titles. There is nothing like one of the names of God. No one taught that in the Bible. Jesus never taught that. John 17:6 Jesus said that he had made Jehovah's NAME known. Not nameS but NAME.

Do not make Jehovah and Jesus liars. You are committing a sin.
dat is how you make blanket statements as if u know d whole Bible but on several occasions i av been able to prove dat wrong.. Why didn't any of the new testament writers use YHWH if d name was so sacred? Why wasn't d name mentioned in the book of Esther or u will delete dat from your bible too.. But ur Nwt found a way to replace those words used to refer to God and Lord in d new testament as Jehovah.. Dat is d definition of spurious insertion
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:29am On Apr 22, 2018
I am still asking you. What is the meaning of Yahweh? Yahweh is not English rooted. You keep running to Wikipedia. Just tell me the meaning of Yahweh.

Jehovah means "I will become what I choose to become".
salvation101:
i already answered you. We av been tru dis before nd if i remember correctly, u chickened out of the conversation calling it derailment.. Do you still want me to send those screenshots from Wikipedia grin..
There are many gods yes but the God(at d center stage) of the Bible is YHWH(Yahweh).. Dat was y he said, you must not serve any other god besides me(10 commandment)
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:29am On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
Your reliance on Google is outstanding. Can you share the website of your Church? I will like to do some research on it.

Can you show me a text or a cuneiform that has the spelling Yahweh in exchange?

The JW do not have an issue with Yahweh but we deem Jehovah more accurate for us to use the name.

Answer my question and we will proceed. What is the meaning of Yahweh?
i should share d website of my church? Wev been tru dis since last year nd u already know d answer u get.
Jehovah is not accurate, in fact, one honest Jw guy here has already answered dat. Nobody knows d real pronunciation of YHWH but we know how jehova was derived. So if u think there is anything special in calling God Jehovah den u must be joking
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:32am On Apr 22, 2018
Riofidelio:
There you go again! disputing a name boldly written in your most cherished translation KJV, i don't know how to explain this but permit me to say that the name Jesus was also a transliteration of Yeshua yet all of you can keep proclaiming "Jesus" as if that's the original pronunciation from His mother's mouth! Well whether you like it or not what's evident is that Jesus made known His father's name and said it must be made known(Matthew 6:10,John 17:26) of course you can pronounce the divine name in a way easiest for you what you shouldn't forget is that the true God has a name and it's precious to HIM and HIS worshippers! Exodus 3:15
most cherished Kjv... Yes i dispute d name cos of my good knowledge of how it was derived.. If u like, put it in Jerusalem bible, i will dispute it.. If kjv was impeccable i wouldn't be referring to the original Greek and Hebrew text every now and then..
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:34am On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
I am still asking you. What is the meaning of Yahweh? Yahweh is not English rooted. You keep running to Wikipedia. Just tell me the meaning of Yahweh.

Jehovah means "I will become what I choose to become".
me i don answer you oooo. It is the name of God (at d center stage) in d bible..
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:42am On Apr 22, 2018
Riofidelio:
My Bible tells me that there's time for everything. Ecclesiastes 3:7 Jesus is the best when it comes to outspokenness but He never forget a single word in the scriptures! Matthew 26:62/63,27:14 So my friend there are times you ask questions out of ignorance and times when people asks questions out of jealousy,We're Jehovah's witnesses at such times we follow our leaders example because silence is the best answer for such stupid questions! If you're not convinced with all the evident demonstrations of our faith then we're not under compulsion to respond to your envious inquisition.

Lol no be only envious Inquisition. You cannot answer the question because your uninspired and infallible governing body who are prone to errors in doctrinal matters and organization direction do not have answers.
People who are not even directed by the holy spirit will tell you to obey doctrines they are not even sure off or else you'll be shunned. Lol
You don't have answers na. Are you a born again? You still cannot answer

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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:44am On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
You are derailing from the topic at hand. Let us take it one by one. I am not in the habit of jumping around. What does Yahweh mean? I have answered your question already.

We are still on the topic who are jehovah witnesses? Have you forgotten? Why do you guys say only true Christians use a name derived by pagans ?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:53am On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
Jehovah means “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.”
Now, what does Yahweh mean?


YHWH correct pronunciation and here is the meaning below
1.He never had a beginning.
2. God will never end.

3. God is absolute reality.

4. God is utterly independent

5. Everything that is not God depends totally on God

6. All the universe is by comparison to God as nothing.

7. God is constant.

8. God is the absolute standard of truth and goodness and beauty.

9. God does whatever he pleases and it is always right and always beautiful and always in accord with truth.

10. God is the most important and most valuable reality and person in the universe.

These are the meaning of the word YAHWEH


Now since you say jehovah has a meaning

Where in the Bible did they mention the meaning of the name jehovah?
When did they derive the meaning?
Who derived the meaning?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:19am On Apr 22, 2018
I love your questions and thank you for asking them. You see, this is the reason why Jesus commanded us to go out and make them know. He said for those who are willing to know(his sheep) they will hear his voice and accept the truth.

The meaning of Jehovah is right in the Bible. You and I are exposed to the meaning. We do not necessarily need Wikileak or Wikipedia to edify us to what the Bible referred to as 'illumination'.

I am here for serious talks and not simply for jesting. I know that you are an intelligent person. But do you really want to know how the meaning of the name of Jehovah can be found in the Bible?

If I throw the same questions at you regarding the ten definitions that you provided for YHWH would you be able to answer them using the Bible?

Were the ten definitions for YHWH or Yahweh?
Hairyrapunzel:



YHWH correct pronunciation and here is the meaning below
1.He never had a beginning.
2. God will never end.

3. God is absolute reality.

4. God is utterly independent

5. Everything that is not God depends totally on God

6. All the universe is by comparison to God as nothing.

7. God is constant.

8. God is the absolute standard of truth and goodness and beauty.

9. God does whatever he pleases and it is always right and always beautiful and always in accord with truth.

10. God is the most important and most valuable reality and person in the universe.

These are the meaning of the word YAHWEH


Now since you say jehovah has a meaning

Where in the Bible did they mention the meaning of the name jehovah?
When did they derive the meaning?
Who derived the meaning?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:21am On Apr 22, 2018
I appreciate your zeal today and your effort to stay on the topic. Nevertheless, We can take this step by step so that we do not miss a point. We will definitely get to the point of your question but it will be of sincere interest to us if we finalize the controversy on the name and then proceed from there.
Hairyrapunzel:


We are still on the topic who are jehovah witnesses? Have you forgotten? Why do you guys say only true Christians use a name derived by pagans ?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:29am On Apr 22, 2018
I hear you.

I am not here to prove to anyone that I am Mr. Bible. The fact that I asked a question should not ignite any tension. I have been answering a barrage of questions from you for many months.

On this occasion, I demand to get your own definition of the name 'Yahweh'. This, I believe, is not enough to spike your spine. To set the pace, I began by defining 'Jehovah' to you.

With all being said, can you now give me your definition of Yahweh? I will like to proceed from there.
salvation101:
dat is how you make blanket statements as if u know d whole Bible but on several occasions i av been able to prove dat wrong.. Why didn't any of the new testament writers use YHWH if d name was so sacred? Why wasn't d name mentioned in the book of Esther or u will delete dat from your bible too.. But ur Nwt found a way to replace those words used to refer to God and Lord in d new testament as Jehovah.. Dat is d definition of spurious insertion
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:33am On Apr 22, 2018
Okay.

To reel you in the doctrines of core Trinitarians, the name 'Yahweh' that you mentioned is defined as I AM THAT I AM.

Do you agree with the above definition?
salvation101:
me i don answer you oooo. It is the name of God (at d center stage) in d bible..
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:41am On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
I love your questions and thank you for asking them. You see, this is the reason why Jesus commanded us to go out and make them know. He said for those who are willing to know(his sheep) they will hear his voice and accept the truth.

The meaning of Jehovah is right in the Bible. You and I are exposed to the meaning. We do not necessarily need Wikileak or Wikipedia to edify us to what the Bible referred to as 'illumination'.

I am here for serious talks and not simply for jesting. I know that you are an intelligent person. But do you really want to know how the meaning of the name of Jehovah can be found in the Bible?

If I throw the same questions at you regarding the ten definitions that you provided for YHWH would you be able to answer them using the Bible?

Were the ten definitions for YHWH or Yahweh?
So you now want to give me an assumed meaning right?

Do you know jehovah is not the real name of God?
Do you know that even your gb attest to this fact?
They say they use jehovah not because it is the most accurate name of Godbut because it is the most common that's why they use it. Imagine using a name just because everyone in fact, pagans use it as the name of God.

Do you know till date the real name isn't known?
Do you know that the name jehovah is an assumed name?
Do you know it was a pagan who derived it?

Why would you think that telling me the meaning of a name who no one is sure of will make me agree with your doctrines?
The so called meaning of the name jehovah was it not derived by people you call pagans according to your standard?
Don't spread false teaching. There are people who think for themselves because independent/critical thinking is a normal thing and your God given right.

I ain't like you whose thinking is restricted by those 8 old men in new York. You can't deceive me hope you are aware of that fact?

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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:45am On Apr 22, 2018
Well, you go on saying that some are other names of God and then you are implying that the name of God is Yahweh? To you, what really is the name of God?

Why are you flourishing under a shadow? Share the website of your Church. Is it a secret organisation that the world has never known? Forget about the frontpage hits that we see every now and then. I will not judge you by it.

Jehovah's Witnesses are very open with theirs jw.org
salvation101:
i should share d website of my church? Wev been tru dis since last year nd u already know d answer u get.
Jehovah is not accurate, in fact, one honest Jw guy here has already answered dat. Nobody knows d real pronunciation of YHWH but we know how jehova was derived. So if u think there is anything special in calling God Jehovah den u must be joking
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:45am On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
Okay.

To reel you in the doctrines of core Trinitarians, the name 'Yahweh' that you mentioned is defined as I AM THAT I AM.

Do you agree with the above definition?

You don't know an inch of the core doctrines of trinitarians. Is it the one cooked up by men who say they are uninspired and infallible and are prone to errors on doctrinal matters and organizational direction?

You must be joking.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:49am On Apr 22, 2018
Yeah!

You see, this is what I am saying. I appreciate the ten definitions from you. Forget about narcissism and let us act sane for a while. Where did you get those ten definitions from?
Hairyrapunzel:

So you now want to give me an assumed meaning right?

Do you know jehovah is not the real name of God?
Do you know that even your gb attest to this fact?
They say they use jehovah not because it is the most accurate name of Godbut because it is the most common that's why they use it. Imagine using a name just because everyone in fact, pagans use it as the name of God.

Do you know till date the real name isn't known?
Do you know that the name jehovah is an assumed name?
Do you know it was a pagan who derived it?

Why would you think that telling me the meaning of a name who no one is sure of will make me agree with your doctrines?
The so called meaning of the name jehovah was it not derived by people you call pagans according to your standard?
Don't spread false teaching. There are people who think for themselves because independent/critical thinking is a normal thing and your God given right.

I ain't like you whose thinking is restricted by those 8 old men in new York. You can't deceive me hope you are aware of that fact?

Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:50am On Apr 22, 2018
Okay.

What are the core doctrines of Trinitarians?
Hairyrapunzel:


You don't know an inch of the core doctrines of trinitarians. Is it the one cooked up by men who say they are uninspired and infallible and are prone to errors on doctrinal matters and organizational direction?

You must be joking.
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:55am On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
Well, you go on saying that some are other names of God and then you are implying that the name of God is Yahweh? To you, what really is the name of God?

Why are you flourishing under a shadow? Share the website of your Church. Is it a secret organisation that the world has never known? Forget about the frontpage hits that we see every now and then. I will not judge you by it.

Jehovah's Witnesses are very open with theirs jw.org

What's your own with church and church website sef?
Is it no better to be in a secret organization and be thinking with your brains and to yourself (because independent thinking is not banned) than to be in an open organization that bans members from thinking with their brains and for themselves (independent/critical thinking ban)?

Is it not better to be in a secret organization that the leaders don't say they are the only ones God appointed to dispense spiritual food than to be in an organization that have leaders who say they are a centralized government in new York appointed by God to dispense spiritual food to their followers?

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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 11:02am On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
Yeah!

You see, this is what I am saying. I appreciate the ten definitions from you. Forget about narcissism and let us act sane for a while. Where did you get those ten definitions from?
You are the narcissist here. Your religion is a narcissistic one. Everyone must not agree with your doctrines. People must hold contrary views. Holding contrary views and following different beliefs doesn't make them evil, worldly, wicked or unrighteous

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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 3:40pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
I hear you.

I am not here to prove to anyone that I am Mr. Bible. The fact that I asked a question should not ignite any tension. I have been answering a barrage of questions from you for many months.

On this occasion, I demand to get your own definition of the name 'Yahweh'. This, I believe, is not enough to spike your spine. To set the pace, I began by defining 'Jehovah' to you.

With all being said, can you now give me your definition of Yahweh? I will like to proceed from there.
u realize u r not mr bible but would claim dis and dat can't be found anywhere in the Bible...
Here is not ur village Square where u make demands.. Yahweh is the God in the Bible and dat is ok for me.. Wateva it means is immaterial
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 3:44pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
Okay.

To reel you in the doctrines of core Trinitarians, the name 'Yahweh' that you mentioned is defined as I AM THAT I AM.

Do you agree with the above definition?
how does dat help you? Does knowing d meaning of d name make u know the person who has the name? U may know d meaning of mathematics but be a very bad mathematician.. One is more important than the other.. I prefer knowing God than knowing d meaning of his name
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 3:51pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
Well, you go on saying that some are other names of God and then you are implying that the name of God is Yahweh? To you, what really is the name of God?

Why are you flourishing under a shadow? Share the website of your Church. Is it a secret organisation that the world has never known? Forget about the frontpage hits that we see every now and then. I will not judge you by it.

Jehovah's Witnesses are very open with theirs jw.org
God revealed himself in scriptures to several people in several ways.. On occasions he tell them he is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.., on other occasions he says he is the God of Israel. In d book of Esther there is no mention of God but his acts were evident. The entire new testament were written in Greek, hence no mention of YHWH and it didn't mean anything cos God is God...so stop majoring on minor. Do you know God?
Since last year uv been asking for my church website nd even promised to do some digging but here u are with same question. Nd am not telling you the name of any denomination.
Yahweh +Adonai witnesses.. Una try
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:14pm On Apr 22, 2018
No one who claims to know God sincerely will overlook the meaning of his name.

If you know God, you would know the meaning of his name.

If you cared less about the name, you have you been up about Jehovah and Yahweh in the beginning. Does this question scare you?

You know what you are running away and that is the Truth.

That is why you have refused to tell the meaning of Yahweh. You have taken your time to scout for supporting information online to no avail.

For me, it is the beginning of the conversation.

Stop evading the question. What is the meaning of Yahweh?
salvation101:
how does dat help you? Does knowing d meaning of d name make u know the person who has the name? U may know d meaning of mathematics but be a very bad mathematician.. One is more important than the other.. I prefer knowing God than knowing d meaning of his name
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:22pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
No one who claims to know God sincerely will overlook the meaning of his name.

If you know God, you would know the meaning of his name.

If you cared less about the name, you have you been up about Jehovah and Yahweh in the beginning. Does this question scare you?

You know what you are running away and that is the Truth.

That is why you have refused to tell the meaning of Yahweh. You have taken your time to scout for supporting information online to no avail.

For me, it is the beginning of the conversation.

Stop evading the question. What is the meaning of Yahweh?
prove biblically.. If a whole book in d bible didn't mention the name of God, are u greater than the Holy Spirit who inspired the book? U claim to know d meaning of the name, has knowing the meaning helped u live a sinless life? Do u know God more than the Apostles? Where in d scripture did dey tell u that you should learn the meaning of God's name? Dey called God God and Lord all tru d new testament, u should look into dat

I have been up against ur deceit... U are trying to sell the name Jehovah but failed woefully at providing evidence of its existence before 12th century. U should spend time digging more into those ur materials perhaps dey can help you ok?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:38pm On Apr 22, 2018
That is absolutely wrong and lopsided. You have demanded many answers from me and I do not withhold answers or sound the way you do.

salvation101:
u realize u r not mr bible but would claim dis and dat can't be found anywhere in the Bible...
Here is not ur village Square where u make demands.. Yahweh is the God in the Bible and dat is ok for me.. Wateva it means is immaterial
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:40pm On Apr 22, 2018
I am surprised that you sound this way. Are you being led by the spirit? I only asked for the meaning of Yahweh. Why do you feel provoked?
salvation101:
prove biblically.. If a whole book in d bible didn't mention the name of God, are u greater than the Holy Spirit who inspired the book? U claim to know d meaning of the name, has knowing the meaning helped u live a sinless life? Do u know God more than the Apostles? Where in d scripture did dey tell u that you should learn the meaning of God's name? Dey called God God and Lord all tru d new testament, u should look into dat

I have been up against ur deceit... U are trying to sell the name Jehovah but failed woefully at providing evidence of its existence before 12th century. U should spend time digging more into those ur materials perhaps dey can help you ok?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 5:00pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
I am surprised that you sound this way. Are you being led by the spirit? I only asked for the meaning of Yahweh. Why do you feel provoked?

Provoked me. Anytime you are asked to provide a bible verse to support your claim you start accusing the person of being provoked. You guys make me laugh so hard
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 5:01pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
That is absolutely wrong and lopsided. You have demanded many answers from me and I do not withhold answers or sound the way you do.

i have never "demanded" any answer from you. I simply ask wch u sometimes answer and sometimes ignore. I av made it clear to u dat the meaning of the name is immaterial to me, as the knowledge of the meaning doesn't change anything. Ur brother here, i suppose he knows d meaning but still justify the use of curse words
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 5:02pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
I am surprised that you sound this way. Are you being led by the spirit? I only asked for the meaning of Yahweh. Why do you feel provoked?
provoked? Dis is not my first conversation with you den why do u think am provoked now just simply cos i asked u to prove ur authoritative statement biblically
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 5:05pm On Apr 22, 2018
I am conversing with you. I didn't curse at you, did I?
salvation101:
i have never "demanded" any answer from you. I simply ask wch u sometimes answer and sometimes ignore. I av made it clear to u dat the meaning of the name is immaterial to me, as the knowledge of the meaning doesn't change anything. Ur brother here, i suppose he knows d meaning but still justify the use of curse words
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 5:18pm On Apr 22, 2018
removetheturban:
I am conversing with you. I didn't curse at you, did I?
nope u didn't.. But didn't u see where ur fellow jw brother was justifying calling others fool?
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 5:50pm On Apr 22, 2018
Jesus actually commanded us to preach to people of all sorts and not to insult them. We take into consideration that most people that we meet are from different backgrounds, ethnicities, and cultures. The JW do not encourage verbal or physical attacks.
salvation101:
nope u didn't.. But didn't u see where ur fellow jw brother was justifying calling others fool?

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