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Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:01pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:can't the Op tell us how his "God" (which apparently has no name) created the universe ? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 11:02pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:good bye. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by MuttleyLaff: 11:03pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: darkchild64: Butterflyleo: darkchild64:No one can describe beyond conventional wisdom how "God" created the universe Nevertheless, God created the universe just like how, Bill Gates, created the world's largest software business, Microsoft, using a combination of knowledge and method Butterflyleo: |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:07pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: Let me make this brief for you. I presented scientific facts about laws of motion, argument from casuality, and the law of gravity which I used to explain how they support cause and effect and prove that nothing cannot cause anything to happen. Something has to cause an effect and the effect proves that something tangible caused it especially when we see the order or purpose which that cause created through the effect. From the end purpose we see intelligence and a deliberate action and this proves that there was an original creator to this effect. I have not spoken or presented anything outside science. You on the other hand are presenting an eternal universe nonsense which is regarded as SCIENCE FICTION and bringing it here to show me that it is a viable argument when its simply silly since the eternal universe CAN NEVER BE scientifically proven and this is why science dumped it because they believe in empirical data and not fiction. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:08pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Martinez19: I.am glad you have seen your dishonesty |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Dalam0n: 11:09pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: You are wise enough not to make it about the God you believe in because you know Yahweh can not stand up to scrutiny so you hide behind this elusive and undefined God to help you propagate your delusions. If you have any scientific proof of God, you'll not be wasting your time here on nairaland, you'll present it to the scientific community and win a Nobel prize. The fact that you are here says you have nothing but empty noise and lies as usual. 1 Like |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by frank317: 11:10pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
My own issue is... if your God has a will, loves ro be worshipped, loves humans, and can get what he wants, isnt it funny that u (an ordinary human) are proving him to us (your fellow humans)? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 11:11pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:
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Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:11pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Dalam0n: You are just too dumb for this thread so please go and sit down. I need to begin more threads like this that expose your unintelligence outside shouting Yahweh does not exist up and down. I already presented my evidence. If you call them lies since all I did was use science to explain science, then it shows how ignorant you truly are. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 11:12pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:
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Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:13pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Anybody who tries to derail this thread will be immediately reported so blame yourself if you get a ban. Frank317 you have been warned 1 Like |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:14pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: just to be sure of what you mean,you are saying that noone can know the exact way "God" to created the universe,however it is a combination of knowledge and method just like how Bill Gates created the Microsoft software ? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:17pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: I don't know how else to deal with you you keep saying that my claim is scientifically disproved,now answer this simple question DOES SCIENCE AGREE THAT THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED BY "GOD" ? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:18pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: Smh I.am forced to repeat my comment to you earlier Dummy. Science is based on empirical proofs limited to this universe. God exists OUTSIDE our universe which is why he is called THE UNCAUSED CAUSE AND THE IMMUTABLE MOVER. These are very simple words whose meaning is easy to grasp. How you find it hard to grasp is amazing. 1 Like |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by MuttleyLaff: 11:19pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64:Exactamundo. No one can describe beyond conventional wisdom how "God" created the universe |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by budaatum: 11:20pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
vaxx:Your question was rather meaningless since no one has decided a I needs the permission of another driver to drive a car. In fact, all one needs is a car key, and the know how, provided the car is legally ones. The uncaused causer is not an axiom. It is an hypothesis at best and has not been proven to be true or valid in anyway whatsoever! And please, the topic being discussed is difficult in its own right. Don't further complicate things by not being clear in your writing or you will open yourself to be misunderstood. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:21pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:okay fine,butterflyleo says that science supports his claim that "God" (name witheld for unknown reasons) created the universe happy now ?? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:22pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: What the ..... *facepalm* |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:23pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: just to know if we are on the same page who is this "God" you are referring to,because if by chance it is Yahweh then you are wrong,the Bible stated how he created the world |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:24pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: You are toying with a ban for attempting to derail |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:25pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Is there no atheist who can tackle the OP aggressively and defeat it? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:25pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: you don't like being direct or honest,you kep saying that science disproves my claim while yours is rejected to so I don't really understand how you reason 2 Likes |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by budaatum: 11:25pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:It comes from the following Butterflyleo:If the statement above is true, then so far as there is an effect, there is a god that caused it! |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:26pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:can the Op not tell us how "God" (apparently has no name) created the universe |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by MuttleyLaff: 11:28pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64:Work with the filler, "God", for now Even God's favourite response(s), when asked is: "Why is it that you ask my name?" The name by the way, is withheld for known reasons 1 Like |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:29pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: How can mine be rejected when it does not subscribe to known scientific parameters? Yours talks about an eternal universe or a multiverse which includes OUR OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE. Science can observe our universe but cannot observe others and for them to agree on your hypothesis they must see our own universe morph or interact with other universes. Something they cannot achieve or even observe because they would be unable to know when any theoretical universe would overlap ours. Suffice to say that your claim is 50+ years old and 50+ years dead. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by budaatum: 11:31pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:So, every effect does not have a cause then, as opposed to what you said in you op? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:32pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:could it be that Christians now entertain the idea that Yahweh may not be the one true "God" ,congrats you guys are now upgrading small small,for a Christian to say that "no one knows ho " God" created the universe" it means there is a lot going on |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:32pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
budaatum: From the OP From the above definition it becomes rather obvious that the object must either itself possess power of movement or be moved by another or something else. The series of movers cannot be produced into an infinite number and motion cannot create itself. The cause which does move and has created for example the motion of the earth must itself be perfect and changeless or the problem is set up again. This immutable mover is an eternal Being called God, And It is obvious in everything without intelligence that there is what architects and industrial designers called the ordering of structure to function. All the planning is the adaptation of a means to an end, the end in unintelligent things being hearing or seeing or being green coloured.. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by budaatum: 11:33pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:So, every effect has a cause except your god, right? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 11:33pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: Another facepalm. Last warning 1 Like |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:33pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: one question for you please give me a yes or no answer DOES SCIENCE AGREE THAT THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED BY A "GOD ?? 1 Like |
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