vaxx:
This is not true, any evidence? let me tolerate you for a momment

Your culture is so angelic it was condoning the killing of twins, human sacrifices, burial of certain people with head of others, going to evil forest for God knows what Etc. I guess there is nothing demonic about all that in your African sense.

princfred:
The African culture was based on strictly adhering to traditional pattern of behavior and any deviation was highly and easily punishable at the whims of chief and chief priest. Nothing dynamic/no room for dynamism about that. Even now you are advocating for Africans to lay back to their old ways, the ways of their ancestors what tge hell is dynamic about that?

Asians and the rest of the world learnt from whites and whites learnt from others including even Africans and evolved but black man in his egotistic un innovative culture cant easily appreciate something better (if its not from his own great grand fathers) to embrace and improve. Open mind makes for better judgement but the African orientation operates on a closed mind ideology as questions are not entertained nor empirical proves highly sought after.

And what did the Asians learn from the Whites?

1. Keep your culture and your traditional religion but be ready to make small adjustments

2. Produce your own goods and services as much as you can

3. Copy from others only when it is beneficial.




Regarding Number one, the Asians (Indians, Japanese, Chinese) all rejected christianity of the whites for their own religions- hinduism, buddhism, Taosim, Shintoism.

Asians are still very traditional, they just incorporated a few updates to their culture.


So, please, rethink your position

princfred:
The African culture was based on strictly adhering to traditional pattern of behavior and any deviation was highly and easily punishable at the whims of chief and chief priest. Nothing dynamic/no room for dynamism about that. Even now you are advocating for Africans to lay back to their old ways, the ways of their ancestors what tge hell is dynamic about that?

Asians and the rest of the world learnt from whites and whites learnt from others including even Africans and evolved but black man in his egotistic un innovative culture cant easily appreciate something better (if its not from his own great grand fathers) to embrace and improve. Open mind makes for better judgement but the African orientation operates on a closed mind ideology as questions are not entertained nor empirical proves highly sought after.

poo you split there, the tradition is not separate from religion, it is our culture and at the same our heritage, no One cares if osun adherent give credence to ogun, even an obatala adherent respect the taboo given by shango adherent. IT is not about which religion or orisha is superior, it is about what ifa says that the babalawo convey. punishment were only given to those who disobey the central moral that is implement by the kings and instructed under the advice of the chiefs and babalawo known as oluwo. likewise in the igbo culture , the red cap chiefs spare head the affairs of the town with the advice given by idibia. and so also is the hausa who is govern by seriki and revived advise from galadima, that is why it is easy for the Christian to penetrate us, we care less, we only become aggressive when they started demanding for destruction of our cultural customs and tradition. even the proponents of the pagan religions simply didn’t have the same zeal, or fanaticism, for their beliefs that the Christians had for today, they are less fanatics . Those with a keen interest in maintaining the religious status quo or cultural system were a distinct minority -like the babalawo and the chiefs , compare to the rest of the society.


lies, africans were doing well with each other, the kushite and the ghana empire were trading and exchanging military knowledge. we are more open minded and that is why Christianity stays today. paganism is non structured religion, it follows no particular format apart , but on the other hand, Christian religion was brutal over pagan religions , they use two particular standard .''sales and marketing'' they aggressively marketed Christianity in our society . At that times it was hard to tell the difference between spreading religion and a military invasion. By the way, people who work in Christian marketing are known as missionaries.

superhumanist:



This is my problem with discussing with christians- you guys wilfully act ignorant just to defend your religion.

How can an African man ask why Africans having Jewish/Christian names is wrong? Is it not our African tradition to give our children African names that have deeper meaning? Even from a name, you can tell what language or tribe a person is from.


I wouldnt bother to debate the rest of the points. I have learnt to conserve energy when debating people who do not want to use their brain.

this your username superhumanist, is it african traditional name yes or no?
If you say it is wrong for Africans to bear names order than African names then you are wrong for bearing the name superhumanist

Timoleon:


Do u believe this? According to the pastor, the junior pilot didn't speak up because he was younger instead choosing to stay quiet..
1. if he stayed quiet, how did the pastor know that the younger pilot knows the solution?

2. in a highly professional environment 1+1 is usually 2. it will be difficult for my the older pilot not to see reason to truth.

3. Neither the younger nor older pilot has 2 lives so why would they both prefer to die that speak up

Well the pastor claimed that according to the blackbox... Maybe the voice transcript spelt out that the co-pilot spoke out at the last minute.

princfred:
Your culture is so angelic it was condoning the killing of twins, human sacrifices, burial of certain people with head of others, going to evil forest for God knows what Etc. I guess there is nothing demonic about all that in your African sense.

have you seen a laid back culture? or have you seen cuilture that remain stagnant? even European were once primitive and backward. old women with suspect-able character that was yet to be understand as menopause were labelled as witch and they were tortured to death by stoning or by hanging.

vaxx:
have you seen a laid back culture? or have you seen cuilture that remain stagnant? even European were once primitive and backward. old women with suspect-able character that was yet to be understand as menopause were labelled as witch and they were tortured to death by stoning or by hanging.

Yes i have seen and its African culture. So you consider killing of witches to be bad but defend a culture condoning the killing of twins, human sacrifices, burial of certain people with head of others, going to evil forest for God knows what Etc. I guess there is nothing demonic about all that in your African sense. But then European culture was dynamic enough that they stopped killing of "witches" but because that of Africa was retrogressive, it took whites to come and stop the nonsense they were doing now you are still stupid enough to advocate fir such inhumane culture to return as a true African cultural idiot who abhors dynamism. Hypocrite why not leave cars and live in mud houses like your ancestors?

The killing of real witches was as a result of Europeans having a dynamic orientation which tried to cleanse the land of evil diabolic forces of witchcraft ( which is still part of the African culture you so love) so that they can fully embrace Christianity and the benefits therein.

Asian cultures were they as barbaric and inhumane as African culture?

superhumanist:



And what did the Asians learn from the Whites?

1. Keep your culture and your traditional religion but be ready to make small adjustments

2. Produce your own goods and services as much as you can

3. Copy from others only when it is beneficial.




Regarding Number one, the Asians (Indians, Japanese, Chinese) all rejected christianity of the whites for their own religions- hinduism, buddhism, Taosim, Shintoism.

Asians are still very traditional, they just incorporated a few updates to their culture.


So, please, rethink your position

Most of the technological achievement of Asians were learnt or stolen from whites if you dont know. America specifically, directly or indirectly helped Japan, South Korea and China become what they are today economically and technologically. Google it if you dont know.

Since you love African culture so much and dont like whites go to the north and join bokoharam because what you are advocating is a mini form of bokoharam.

princfred:
Yes i have and its African culture. European culture was dynamic enough so they stopped killing of "witches" but because that of Africa was retrogressive, it took whites to come and stop the nonsense het were doing now you are still stupid enough yo advocate fir such inhumane culture to return as a true African idiot who abhors dynamism. Hypocrite why not leave cars and live in mud houses like your ancestors?

lol, have you seen your kind of self, when ghana empire was busy thriving with gold and salt, acquiring wealth and developing the living standard of their people, when oyo empire was giving chances for women to take lead in commerce, efunsetun aniwura ,iyaloja and co. madam tinubu of old lagos state known as eko employed over 400 men in her clothing industry, A fit the erropean saw and feel amazed. women were participating both in commerce and politics. Europe the so called citadel of democracy give women the permission to vote not until late 20th century. AN India professor once said if you want to know how civilized society is , ask for the role of woman..

princfred:
Most of the technological achievement of Asians were learnt or stolen from whites if you dont know. America specifically, directly or indirectly helped Japan, South Korea and China become what they are today economically and technologically. Google it if you dont know.

Since you love African culture so much and dont like whites go to the north and join bokoharam because what you are advocating is a mini form of bokoharam.

Boko Haram and Islam was never the culture of the north, those beliefs replaced their culture in its entirety that almost all the people in the north have no idea what their own history is

vaxx:
lol, have you seen your kind of self, when ghana empire was busy thriving with gold and salt, acquiring wealth and developing the living standard of their people, when oyo empire was giving chances for women to take lead in commerce, efunsetun aniwura ,iyaloja and co. madam tinubu of old lagos state known as eko employed over 400 men in her clothing industry, A fit the erropean saw and feel amazed. women were participating both in commerce and politics. Europe the so called citadel of democracy give women the permission to vote not until late 20th century. AN India professor once said if you want to know how civilized society is , ask for the role of woman..

You want to enter women empowerment now abi? When did women empowerments become a big deal in Africa? Not a few case here and there? How did you manage to be so deluded? Even your president, like a real African man, said women belong to the kitchen and the other room in this 21st century in the world stage echoing the thoughts, orientation and culture of Africans . Whites still they beg Africans in this century to train the girl child and stop female genital mutilation and you are here blabbing dust.

hopefulLandlord:


Boko Haram and Islam was never the culture of the north, those beliefs replaced their culture in its entirety that almost all the people in the north have no idea what their own history is

As a true African and loather of whites just boycott white innovation and stick to African things for 3 months. From toothbrush, cars, no internet, no phone, mud houses, clay utensil, no written language, no electricity etc lets see your life. Walk the talk before asking us to join your retrogressive ways. Which inventions Black Africans do for the world in Africa without white to be making noise people way use their culture and orientation go moon never talk. This is why Africa is so backward so much ego on top of nothing. na igbo ukwu you dey mention for metallurgy against people wey produce rockets. Imagine if na black men produce all these things whites produce by now every body for done deaf from African noise. Whites are there thinking of the next big thing to invent blacks dey here they reminisce on the gone yesteryears when the could sacrifice their fellow blacks to their bloody gods or use seven heads bury one so called village head based on custom.

Asians keep there head down learn things from whites, steal the ones dey no fit learn normally. Africans dey de boost on top of igbo ukwu. Who igbo ukwu epp?

princfred:
As a true African and loather of whites just boycott white innovation and stick to African things for 3 months. From toothbrush, cars, no internet, no phone, mud houses, clay utensil, no written language, no electricity etc lets see your life. Walk the talk before asking us to join your retrogressive ways. Which inventions Black Africans do for the world in Africa without white to be making noise people way use their culture and orientation go moon never talk.

Strawman and red herring

No one is saying we shouldn't accept empirical things from them, no civilisation is an island so even the Europeans accepted certain development ideas from "Pagan Countries", USA for instance import most of their consumables from China, a pagan/atheist nation but they didn't accept their Shintoism, Taoisim and Confucianism

India accepted a lot of empirical things and developments ideas from the British but rejected their Jesus and Yahweh

China accepted Communist ideas from Germans but rejected most of the other things

If a Christian goes to Japan with a technology that can teleport food from the northern Nigeria to southern Nigeria with no loss in nutrients and quality, the Japanese would accept the technology, study it and improve upon it while rejecting the Christianity totally

hopefulLandlord:


Strawman and red herring

No one is saying we shouldn't accept empirical things from them, no civilisation is an island so even the Europeans accepted certain development ideas from "Pagan Countries", USA for instance import most of their consumables from China, a pagan/atheist nation but they didn't accept their Shintoism, Taoisim and Confucianism

India accepted a lot of empirical things and developments ideas from the British but rejected their Jesus and Yahweh

China accepted Communist ideas from Germans but rejected most of the other things

If a Christian goes to Japan with a technology that can teleport food from the northern Nigeria to southern Nigeria with no loss in nutrients and quality, the Japanese would accept the technology, study it and improve upon it while rejecting the Christianity totally

They did not because their religion was not as terrible and wasn't keeping them badly underdeveloped like that of Africa. How barbaric were their religion and values compared to that of Africa?

princfred:
They did not because their religion was as terrible and wasn't keeping them badly underdeveloped like that of Africa. How barbaric were their religion and values compared to that of Africa?

ATR is barbaric because all the info you think you know about it is from outside ATR lol. Majority of the info you got are from Christians themselves and our missionaries actually rewrote history to make ATR look worse than it actually was so Christianity can be given more credit

How many ATR practitioners have you sat down with to learn about their religion? I'm guessing none

Christianity is now spreading in China, you'll see history repeat itself right before your eyes if Christianity ends up the major religion in China as they would also rewrite Chinese history to make their culture and tradition look bad, Christianity would be given credit for the development and wealth of China and their culture would disappear gradually with each new generation that comes up till nobody would remember those cultures ever existed except historians.

Now I'm not going to pretend ATR is all good as it also has it's shortcomings but its definitely NOT responsible for Africa's underdevelopment as Africa would've developed at its own pace, we had a system of education before they came, we had our forms of technology and built houses (some of which are still standing today) amongst other things, we were developing slowly but surely and I'll argue the whites coming to colonise us was actually responsible for the shit we're in today as we stopped developing at our pace cuz our technology looked primitive compared to Oyinbo Radio and we gave up developing but simply consumed whatever the oyinbos developed and this made them take advantage of us in a huge way which is responsible for underdevelopment. Read about "Colonial Tax" and see why certain African countries are destined to remain poor forever

princfred:
You want to enter women empowerment now abi? When did women empowerments become a big deal in Africa? Not a few case here and there? How did you manage to be so deluded? Even your president, like a real African man, said women belong to the kitchen and the other room in this 21st century in the world stage echoing the thoughts, orientation and culture of Africans . Whites still they beg Africans in this century to train the girl child and stop female genital mutilation and you are here blabbing dust.

YOU have to go personal when your so called rebuttal is finished. lol omo oyinbo. i wish i can educate you but you have to pretend and drop your ego for a moment, buhari is a Muslim not traditionalist. spot the difference.( even not all Muslim will agree with him) female genital mutilation is still practiced in Europe not African things only, enlightenment is still going on. with the bull shilt you split over the internet space, it does not sound as if you understand the subject you are attacking, let me educate you a a little. When Rome was conquered by so-called barbarians in 479AD, Europe descended into the dark ages. It was an age characterized by white illiteracy, disease, ignorance and superstition. For over 1,000 years, this was the situation of the white European, he was devolved and he was ruled by darkskinned men. However, he arose from the cesspit in 1500AD in what is called the ''Renaissance''

We African people will have get there by now, we were experiencing our own renaissance by then before the arrival of the European, your master stop us along the line. we will get there if only we begin to drop the copy ideology nonsense and adopt the pretty ones, even they themselves are reshaping in it ,how much us.

how is it destroying our culture? how is it destroying our culture?

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princfred:
Most of the technological achievement of Asians were learnt or stolen from whites if you dont know. America specifically, directly or indirectly helped Japan, South Korea and China become what they are today economically and technologically. Google it if you dont know.

Since you love African culture so much and dont like whites go to the north and join bokoharam because what you are advocating is a mini form of bokoharam.

Boko haram is islamic. It is Arabic. It is foreign and not Nigerian culture.

As for technological knowledge among countries/nationalities/races, it is a circular and cyclical thing. Westerners learnt a lot from the Islamic Golden age. Everyone learns from each other.

As for now, Japan is on top of the technological game and not the West.

paxonel:
this your username superhumanist, is it african traditional name yes or no?
If you say it is wrong for Africans to bear names order than African names then you are wrong for bearing the name superhumanist

Is "superhumanist" my real name?

Why are you acting ignorant just to prove a point?

princfred:
They did not because their religion was not as terrible and wasn't keeping them badly underdeveloped like that of Africa. How barbaric were their religion and values compared to that of Africa?

Their religion fit in with their culture. Christianity has mixed over a thousand years with European culture. Christianity does not work with Asian and African cultures.

And let us talk about barbarism.

Here are the highlights of your christian Europe;
*Witch Burnings
*Slavery
*Crusades aka christian terrorism
*Catholic torture

superhumanist:


Boko haram is islamic. It is Arabic. It is foreign and not Nigerian culture.

As for technological knowledge among countries/nationalities/races, it is a circular and cyclical thing. Westerners learnt a lot from the Islamic Golden age. Everyone learns from each other.

As for now, Japan is on top of the technological game and not the West.[

it depends, on IT and military equipment japan is still far behind Israel and USA are doing well in this regard. Japan still use fax and many of the small scale business lack normal websites, in robotic technology, japan is doing better, but it can be compare to USA. in general, japan and Germany can be paired in automobile, excellent infrastructure. etc.

superhumanist:


Their religion fit in with their culture. Christianity has mixed over a thousand years with European culture. Christianity does not work with Asian and African cultures.

And let us talk about barbarism.

Here are the highlights of your christian Europe;
*Witch Burnings
*Slavery
*Crusades aka christian terrorism
*Catholic torture

Even Christianity was a brilliant mixture of European paganism. she adopt so many old European pagan practice.

vaxx:
Even Christianity was a brilliant mixture of European paganism. she adopt so many old European pagan practice.

Very true. However, witch burning is a particularly christian practice.

superhumanist:



Very true. However, witch burning is a particularly christian practice.

Western european paganism from the celtics to the germanics is still much alive through catholicism, a type of christianity. Festivals such as Easter, Christmas and Halloween are pagan in origin. The christian cross is thought to have a pagan root of the sun cross and the concept of trinity probably has its origins of polytheism.

Early christianity were considered a reformed jewish sect and the ancient romans were heavily influenced by the east due to rich trading. Constantine tried to unite the roman empire with his new capital centered in Byzantium but later the empire was divided within few generations. Christianity served as a common ground between west and east romans.

It is just that Christianity use a very strong marketing arm that has crushed other cultures, subsuming their traditions which we can trace back from modern culture.(i have seen a lot of ifa teaching in the bible also which is about 1 thousand years old than the Jewish religion) though, i do not have the evidence if bible writer copy it from ifa teaching. but Personally, I mourn for the cultures of the European crushed by Christianity.

yeyerolling:
What the elders see sitting the youth cant see from a tree------ dumbest shit ever. Our culture is the main reason we are under developed

Lie

MarieSucre:
The same thing happens in marriages too, a lot of men will never listen to their wives in the name of "I'm the head of the family", if you like roll on the floor and use small voice to tell then pride will not let me act till it becomes too late and they have destroyed the family.

I don't grab

Truth be told. Most Nigerian youth are functional illiterates.

I just read a brilliant opinion from a thought leader in this country and youths who never read or digested the piece but stopped at the headline are making a mess of their parents school fees by going off on a tangent that has NO relevance to the subject matter at hand.

It really does seem Nigeria is doomed.

i think this man refering to yoruba culture
especially if the elder one is in power
eg mr.constituted authority

princfred:
How does your igbo ukwu compare to people who were already producing airplanes in metallurgy? You use NOK culture dey compare with people who were producing machines and exploring space with technology. Such is the ego induced delusional arrogant ignorance of the typical African that has made him unable to learn and develop. In how many years will you have been able to invent great things whites already had or establish mechanical farming ? How did your recognition of chukwu etc help you stop human sacrifices and killing of twins etc. Upon all you know it was white men who help to develop the lexicon of your language into written language capable of enabling widespread teaching and learning. My Amadioha needs your brainless skull and testicles to appease him, please for the love of African culture, donate. The lack of innovation i mean is that imagine someone in Africa coming out then saying he wants to develop something that will go to the moon. He would have been regarded as a mad idiot by everyone in the village. In fact, the chief priests would have sacrificed him for desecrating the land if he went ahead with his idea. [b]What is an African brain and culture then and to some extent now fixated on if not to build mud house, farm, marry plenty, born man and follow his blood thirsty gods and traditions? [/b]And loathe or even antagonize anyone who deviates from that culture. Were is the innovative orientation in that?

First off, World War 1 caused over 18 million deaths and about 23 million wounded. World war 2 (1939-1945) resulted in 80 million deaths (including actual war deaths & from diseases/famine caused by war directly). We have English civil war, Spanish civil war, Napoleonic wars. Never mind Julius Caesar's and other Roman wars. Then Alexander The Great's wars.
Now also consider Korea War, America fighting Vietnam war & Russian war in Afghanistan in 1980s.

Even in the Bible Abraham went to war. A share of the war booty was given to Melchizedek. Some MoGs even erroneously use it to justify early tithe payment. Gideon fought a war, King Saul did too. The Bible is replete with Israel's wars with it's neighbors. Even modern Israel has been fighting wars almost since 1948.
Aside pre-Constantine Rome, Alexander & Korea, all the aforementioned nations either followed Abraham's God or were Christians.

Only ignorance of history, brainwash or sheer inability to think for yourself would make you call African gods blood-thirsty in comparison.
WW2 dead alone equals roughly the Population of Egypt today. In 1939, the world had only 2.3 billion people and Egypt had 16 million.

So which blood thirsty god do you mean?

At the time we were making our metal works centuries ago, Europeans had no bicycles, no trains, no cars, no electricity. The most they had were boats without engines that relied on wind sail to travel. So you just ranted without understanding my post you were quoting.
Killing twins was not common across Africa. In Benin twins were never killed. In Yorubaland twins were also normal. It is one of those stories that Europeans used rare occurrences in isolated tribes to vilify and demonize Africans.

At the same time I was referring to, centuries ago, scholars/scientists who dared to say that the earth round & the earth was not centre of the universe were sentenced to be burnt at stake by the churches in Europe. That sounds like bloodthirsty to anyone not brainwashed.

You obviously have no knowledge of church atrocities over time. The same church in Europe declared that Africans have no souls and therefore not different from animals. The church used it to justify trans-Atlantic slave trade.

Please educate yourself before coming to argue in public fora. Read widely. There is more out there to learn than religious zealotry.

350 YEARS ago, a Dutch explorer described Benin City as been as magnificent as Rotterdam in Holland. With the Oba's palaces being as great as the Exchange in Amsterdam. A massive building of Dutch tycoons where Stock Exchange business first started in the world.

AreaFada2:


First off, World War 1 caused over 18 million deaths and about 23 million wounded. World war 2 (1939-1945) resulted in 80 million deaths (including actual war deaths & from diseases/famine caused by war directly). We have English civil war, Spanish civil war, Napoleonic wars. Never mind Juli
Now also consider Korea War, America fighting Vietnam war & Russian war in Afghanistan in 1980s.

Even in the Bible Abraham went to war. A share of the war booty was given to Melchizedek. Some MoGs even erroneously use it to justify early tithe payment. Gideon fought a war, King Saul did too. The Bible is replete with Israel's wars with it's neighbors. Even modern Israel has been fighting wars almost since 1948.
Aside pre-Constantine Rome & Korea, all the aforementioned nations either followed Abraham's God or were Christians.

Only ignorance of history, brainwash or sheer inability to think for yourself would make you call African gods blood-thirsty in comparison.
WW2 dead alone equals roughly the Population of Egypt today. In 1939, the world had only 2.3 billion people and Egypt had 16 million.

So which blood thirsty god do you mean?

At the time we were making our metal works centuries ago, Europeans had no bicycles, no trains, no cars, no electricity. The most they had were boats without engines that relied on wind sail to travel. So you just ranted without understanding my post you were quoting.
Killing twins was not common across Africa. In Benin twins were never killed. In Yorubaland twins were also normal. It is one of those stories that Europeans used rare occurrences in isolated tribes to vilify and demonize Africans.

At the same time I was referring to, centuries ago, scholars/scientists who dared to say that the earth round & the earth was not centre of the universe were sentenced to be burnt at stake by the churches in Europe. That sounds like bloodthirsty to anyone not brainwashed.

You obviously have no knowledge of church atrocities over time. The same church in Europe declared that Africans have no souls and therefore not different from animals. The church used it to justify trans-Atlantic slave trade.

Please educate yourself before coming to argue in public fora. Read widely. There is more out there to learn than religious zealotry.

350 YEARS ago, a Dutch explorer described Benin City as been as magnificent as Rotterdam in Holland. With the Oba's palaces being as great as the Exchange in Amsterdam. A massive building of Dutch tycoons where Stock Exchange business first started in the world.

It's quite unfortunate that your little African brain dont know the difference between war deaths and that just to appease blood thirsty gods. Thesame churches that killed stopped and corrected themselves unlike African culture where even till this day on their own they will keep burying a king with seven heads if not stopped. Or were you the who who fought to end slavery? Thats the difference. African culture is retrogressively static on its own unless improved by outsiders and even that will be met with some folks like you who prefer to keep behaving and thinking like your great great grand fathers even in a 100 hundred years to come. Strip yourself off all external positive influence and go back to hunting and visiting the nearest evil forest for your clan.

vaxx:
YOU have to go personal when your so called rebuttal is finished. lol omo oyinbo. i wish i can educate you but you have to pretend and drop your ego for a moment, buhari is a Muslim not traditionalist. spot the difference.( even not all Muslim will agree with him) female genital mutilation is still practiced in Europe not African things only, enlightenment is still going on. with the bull shilt you split over the internet space, it does not sound as if you understand the subject you are attacking, let me educate you a a little. When Rome was conquered by so-called barbarians in 479AD, Europe descended into the dark ages. It was an age characterized by white illiteracy, disease, ignorance and superstition. For over 1,000 years, this was the situation of the white European, he was devolved and he was ruled by darkskinned men. However, he arose from the cesspit in 1500AD in what is called the ''Renaissance''

We African people will have get there by now, we were experiencing our own renaissance by then before the arrival of the European, your master stop us along the line. we will get there if only we begin to drop the copy ideology nonsense and adopt the pretty ones, even they themselves are reshaping in it ,how much us.

Go back to your dark ages alone and wait donkey years for your own renaissance, black man. Now just crawl back to the cave and bushes/mud houses half naked and re-invent the wheel while you are at it as the entire world embraces and learn from each other since your vain ego cant allow you join civilization.