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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 2:05pm On Oct 04, 2018
B2mario:
Hmmmmm. some people are talking poo here. How recent is Igbo that Equano of 15th century and the Portugese that made the 1st contact in 12th century acknowledged the name, Heebo, Ebo, Ibo and Igbo. Igbo as name is as old as Egypt. Igbo is not recent as you claimed and we have some ancient clans that bear name such as Igbo-ukwu (Anambra), Ama-igbo (Imo), Igbouzo (Delta), Igbo-etiti (Enugu), Obigbo, Umuigbo (Rivers), Igbo-emena (Cross-river) and Igbo-eze (Enugu).

I never said Igbo as a name is recent bikonu.
O gini?

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Re: . by Chef2000: 2:13pm On Oct 04, 2018
Pazienza I so much respect how you make your comments without wanting to hurt or make other people feel better than others, you are blessed with wisdom, keep up your good work.

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Re: . by horsepower101: 2:23pm On Oct 04, 2018
Handsomegod:

Someone here mentioned you are a member of few Pan Igbo groups on Facebook. Kindly lift the above holy grail of an update and paste it on those forums.You can edit and give it a proper introductory paragraph. Every Igboman need to read those sermons you penned down Pazienza nwoke Oka! All you stated are same ideas and rebuttals swimming in my head whenever i read such ignorant rants from our people but am usually too angry and agitated or better still shame struck to put it in such order as you have done. May our ancestors whose spirit of wisdom you embody keep guiding you. There is hope after-all.

I 100% support this proposal...Pazienza is a True Igbo son. The philosopher of our generation.
Re: . by Yyeske(m): 2:27pm On Oct 04, 2018
pazienza:


You sound exactly like how the rest of Nigeria sound towards Ndiigbo, and you can see how Nigeria has become worst off for it.
If I ask you to list and explain how Zik exhibited arrogance towards the rest of Ndiigbo, you will run blank now, and start stuttering.
Infact, do you mind listing Zik arrogant behavior towards other Igbos.
It's a known fact that the Igbo nation as we have it today holds whatever degree of cohesion it had today to Zik ground breaking works, no Igbo man dead or alive had come close.
Zik worked for all parts of Igboland. He worked closely with Nzimiro(Imo), Okpara (Abia), Akanu Ibiam (Ebonyi), Enugu ( Jim Nwobodo), etc.
Zik came from Onitsha, a people who suffer from identity crisis, yet he gave so much to Ndiigbo than any dead or living Igbo man had.




Another empty emotional allegations.
Stop making general statements. Tell me how Ojukwu exhibited arrogance towards other Igbos? Great men have self confidence which men of little substance out of envy characterize as arrogance. Look at Cristiano Ronaldo, Serena Williams, Mohammed Ali, etc.
It's part of their winning mentality to be proud of their hardwork and exhibit confidence in their self.

If I ask you evidence of how Ojukwu exhibited arrogance towards other Igbos, you would run blank too.



Enugu is part Of Jim Nwobodo vicinity. Jim Nwobodo come from Amaechi Awkunanaw, which is part of Enugu capital city. So yes, ESUT was sited in his vicinity. Chimaraoke recently took the school to Agbani his home town.
I bet it doesn't matter that Zik out of patriotic considerations decided to build UNN In Nsukka, but it would have mattered and be used to justify Anambra arrogance, had he decided to site it in Onitsha his home town, or neighbouring communities like Obosi, Nkpor, Ozeh, etc.



You see Anambra superiority complex, I see your own inferiority complex. It's same thing when Nigerians speak of Igbo superiority complex, when actually it's about their own inferiority complex.
No Anambra person stopped you from celebrating the achievement of your own people, we actually join you to celebrate your achievements, I am a regular contributor to the Enugu thread. Yet each time Anambra person try to celebrate the Achievements of Ndi Anambra, the inferiority complex of people like you comes up, and you start accusing Anambra people of superiority complex. This behavior is not different from what the rest of Nigeria do to Ndiigbo. You need to kill off your inferiority complex, the problem is not Anambra, the problem is you.

Whatever glorious past Ndiigbo had in Nigeria was given to us by Zik. I had taken time to chronicle the situation of Ndiigbo in Nigerian state by 1948,before Zik took over.
It was no better than the current political state we found ourselves in 2018, but Zik worked on it, and by 1960, we were near the top.
What has your Ekweremmadu done for Ndiigbo? Is he not a mere lap dog to Saraki, how exactly has his current political post benefitted Ndiigbo? Isn't it telling that it's at a time, Ndiigbo has Ekweremmadu as the highest political office holder, that we had experienced the greatest ostracism from Nigerian political sphere?
Ekweremmadu cannot even negotiate any thing for Ndiigbo, he is a bit too quiet and weighed down by skeletons in his cupboards, which the Caliphate had used to gag and prevent him from speaking up or fighting for injustice against Ndiigbo. Even the PDP VP slot, is not looking sure for Ndiigbo under Ekweremmadu docile leadership, Wike and the SS politicians have more say in PDP machinery than Ekweremmadu, is that the kind of leadership you wish on Ndiigbo?

Fresh from Civilwar, it was Zik political sagacity that ensured Ndiigbo got juicy posts from the government of the day? What has Ekweremmadu done for Ndiigbo? Ekweremmadu is exactly the prototype of the Igbo the Nigerians want, the type that stays quiet and don't fight and cause chaos to others, just to get equity for Ndiigbo. Just the perfect docile leader. Ekweremmadu is so small that outside his Enugu constituency, he commands no followership elsewhere in Igboland. How can you lead when you don't have charisma? How can you gather followership if you don't exhibit self confidence? Now you know the difference between your Ekweremmadu and Zik/Ojukwu.

Abribas were not Ibibios. Aro didn't turn them to anything. Bonny and Opobo are proudly Ijaw people today, they hate Ndiigbo. I'm member of their facebook pages, and I know the situation on ground. Moreover the Igbo group Opobo /Bonny have links with are Ndokis.
I guess Ndiigbo would have to thank Aros for terrorizing and raiding our villages with their Abam and Ohafia mercenaries, ransacking and burning down villages to capture slaves they shipped down to Opobo and Bonny for sale to America, which resulted to many unsold Igbo slaves in Opobo and Bonny, staying behind there and became indigenes of those places, leading to the current Igbo language of those those places, right?
We have to condemn Nri people who condemned and laid curses on those involved in slave trade.

See how you insecurities towards Ndi Anambra is inhibiting your rationality.


Another unsubstantiated talk. I was born and raised in Enugu. So there is nothing you would tell me about Enugu.
Chimaraoke was notorious for his romance with Enugu cult boys, who he empowered. Political killings were rampant in Enugu during his era.
He was also found to have looted Enugu treasury dry to the tune of billions, which led to EFCC coming for him, and resulted to closing down of ventures like Cosmo FM,Rainbownet, etc. He also left too many abandoned projects.
Meanwhile, Mbadinuju was quickly toppled and was replaced with competent leaders in Anambra. Enugu has also done same, so as usual, you really have no point.
Many Anambra people call Enugu home, because we have been here ever since Enugu has been capital of the East, we are not unaware of the minor prejudices Enugu people have towards ndi Agba enu , my aunty was sacked by Enugu people because she wasn't an indigene many Anambra people suffered for this, yet we don't hold it against ndi Enugu, we moved on.




Enugu is truly beautiful. But it also had a head start ahead of all other Igbo cities as the capital of Eastern region.
Even till today, Enugu remain the defacto regional capital of SE. Nearly all regional government and private headquarters In SE are in Enugu, from EEDC to CBN. It has not come without benefits. What's more, Ndi Anambra contributed in making Enugu the city it is today, and continues to contribute more, even as we speak, because Enugu has always been a place we consider, despite how hard some minorities in Enugu had made it for us to exist here.



This is straight off Igbophobic pages of Nigerians. Remember I said that the resentment of Igbos like you towards Ndi Anambra, is fueled by the same inferiority complex that fuel Igbophobia from Nigerians towards Ndiigbo, I'm not surprised that you are repeating their lies.
We had discussed this Onitsha pollution issue before, but it was with Yorubas, never knew I would one day has to debunk an Igbo propagating same falsehood.




When you decided to sack all other Igbos in your Civil Service over non Indigene issue, thousands of fellow Igbos who had spent their life time working for your govrnment sent home, setting a precidence which Abia repeated not long ago.
You don't see that as insults to Ndiigbo, right?

When you have the temerity to compare highly cerebral and visionary Igbo leaders like Zik and Ojukwu and Ekwueme( we still remember how Jim Nwobodo campaigned vigorously against him in PDP primaries in 1999 and 2003, so much for Enugu Igbo solidarity, Huh? ) to current political jobbers in Igboland which Ekweremmadu leads? All because you want to talk down on Ndi Anambra, you don't see it as insult?

How many Aviation ministers had Ndiigbo produced before Stella Odua, with all of them playing docile and subservient silent politics, because they didnt want to be seen as loud mouthed or rocking the boat. Yet it was Stella who stood up and challenged the Yoruba cabals at the Aviation whose sole aim was to ensure Lagos monopoly on the airhub of Nigeria continued and saw Stella campaign to make Enugu Airport an international one, a direct threat to them?
The little progress we had made in making Enugu an International airport is thanks to an Anambra woman. She was from Ogbaru Anambra, yet she fought for an international airport that was in Enugu, because she is a proud Igbo woman, the type that is vocal about Igbo interests, that Nigerians don't want. Have you ever given Ndi Anambra credit for the international airport we have Igboland today? Not that we expect any from you, but if you are going to exaggerate all perceived wrongs both real and illusional, Ndi Anambra has caused to Ndiigbo, then we must expect you to start giving us credits for the rights we did.



Ditto brother, ditto. The feeling is mutual.

You nailed it bro, thanks.
Re: . by xfactor23: 2:39pm On Oct 04, 2018
Pazienza is my personal friend on Facebook, whom I respect so much, but he needs to tone down his voice against ndi Ika and Ikwerre. Igbo unity is a gradual fusion, that will eventually takes place. @Omambala, thanks goodness for your new position. My apologies for the outburst. I intentionally did not want to go further with any revelation, so as not to boil bloods. However, our unity is paramount and a step further to our exit from the contraption. Kudos to you @pazienza and everybody that is contributing to this thread positively.
Re: . by Handsomegod(m): 2:45pm On Oct 04, 2018
#still on the matter. Know your past.

http://www.sophocles.com/nigeria/TwentyYearsWar.pdf.

Download the book on the link above and read or keep for your kids to know the exploits of their forefathers.
The title of the book is: THE TWENTY YEARS WAR:Invasion and Resistance in South-Eastern Nigeria. 1900-1919.
Ndewo

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 2:53pm On Oct 04, 2018
Xander85:


What part of GRA is this? undecided

What's the closest landmark?

New Haven market, this is the phone/computer repair centre beside the railway line behind 82 div

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