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Re: . by frankfrancis871: 12:24pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871: HOW THE EMIR SAVED THE IGBOS 1st october was approaching, there was a plan to attack and kill and attack Igbos merciless. The King of Igbos in Nasarawa heard this and immediately told the Emir who assured him that nothing will happen. For me, I was scared though I had to be careful. On first of october, I totally forget about things. I went out with my bike and everywhere was peaceful and cool, I heard that the Emir ordered that nobody should touch Igbos or face punishment. We thank God but I was very sad because this quit notice made Igbos sell off their properties to fellow Igbos. We(my family) sold our shop many after running after returning and had to start life all over, the returnees were mocked by some Nasarawa people. I will list out tribes in Nasarawa and other places to prove that hausas are not populated and unity of the Igbo nation in my next post, stay tuned. 4 Likes |
Re: . by xfactor23: 12:26pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871:Bro, get your acts right and relocate asp. The East has enough land to accommodate you and your aspiration. 2 Likes |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 12:29pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning: Stop confusing issues. No one is speaking of Asa and Ndoki Rivers here. Those ones are proud Igbos. The present determine the future. People like you are stuck in the past when Ikwerre were Igbo( even some of them are beginning to question this, as they claim they were at no point, Igbos), and PH was an Igbo town. That past is gone. The early you lots snap out of your past and live in present, which is accepting the reality that Ikwerre is not Igbo and that Ph is now an Ikwerre-Ijaw city, the better you lots. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 12:31pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
OreMI22: Now, you are speaking from both sides of the mouth. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by OreMI22: 12:35pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza: Seriously, the solution isn't to attack with hate. USE YOUR SENSE! The only way Igbos can have peace and respect is to build the infrastructure they need in the SE! For instance, most of you still use Lagos and PH airports citing all sorts of excuses when Enugu airport is there. Until Igbos learn to build their own and take pride in supporting their own, lashing out with hate against Ikwerre or Fulani or whatever group taking advantage of naive behavior is pointless. Build and support your own facilities. Do not spend your money on supporting your "enemies" 2 Likes |
Re: . by superlightning: 12:39pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza: The sooner you realize the extent to which politics can go the better you know how to address the identity crisis issue. I accept whoever identifies with us and rejects those who don't. Keep your sense to yourself. |
Re: . by OreMI22: 12:44pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871: I don't know if it's low IQ, but something is not right with our northern Igbo brothers. So even if you Sold your shop and the killing didn't happen last 1st October, you will go and buy another shop and wait for the killing in the next 1st October? WHY DON'T YOU FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE RELOCATE!!! The good thing is that Nassarawa people aren't as mean and violent as Fulanis. |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 12:47pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning:One can't aggravate what is already at its maximum. Ikwerre Igbophobia has reached its maximum. It can't be aggravated any further. Moreover, pointing it out cannot even aggravate it, if it weren't already at its maximum, it would rather arm Ndiigbo and prepare us to tackle them better by redefining our relationship with Ndi Ikwerre. It's not just politics. Every single Ikwerre man believes that Gowon is their liberator, whereas Ndiigbo were their oppressors and are still on a mission to start oppressing them again, if given the chance. The stadium was named Liberation stadium in the first place, to celebrate their liberation from Igbo oppressors. This was done after the war, so we could forgive them. But for Wike to come and rename the stadium, Gowon stadium in 2017, while giving an Igbophobic speech that demonically presented Ndiigbo as oppressors who oppressed Ikwerre people and Rivers people in old Eastern region, you must know that things have not changed. The story Wike told there, is exactly what Ikwerre commoners echo in their facebook pages. It's all too familiar. Nazis had apologized for their role in Jewish pogrom, so what? Israelis should now start renaming infrastructures after Hitler? Please spare me that talk. Non of those Igbo names sanctioned mass starvation against Nigerians. Non of them invaded Nigerians and bombed market places filled with market women and children, in bid to prevent food circulation and maintain starvation policy. Neither did they bomb Northern hospitals. Infact, I doubt you are even Igbo, I guess I'm replying you as an academic exercise. 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 12:50pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
HopeAtHand: O HopeAtHand n'ezi ezi zi nu oka nhne ka? 1 Like |
Re: . by horsepower101: 12:50pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza: Consistent analysis. Well done. |
Re: . by basilo101: 12:52pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871:I am also planning relocation but won't be able to make it this year |
Re: . by OreMI22: 12:55pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza: Oga, you probably live in Port Harcourt and your Ikwerre neighbors have showed you pepper. Why i laugh at people like you is that your only reason for your crusade is "Revenge" and NOT, let Igbo build their own industrial complex at home so we stop depending on anybody. I just told you how Jim Nwobodo solved the issue of lack of higher education placement for people of old Anambra state by creating his own University right there in Enugu, Abakaliki, Awka and Nnewi. In truth, that is the solution Igbos MUST imbibe in Nigeria. Part of the reason for the thread is to proffer solutions on how this could be done. If Igbo concentrate more on how to develop Igboland than how to drag Lagos, Port harcourt and Abuja with the natives, they will be ok and others will soon enough begin to relocate to Igboland. But we always want to be dragging Port Harcourt and Kano with these people instead of developing our homeland. A sense of inferiority complex makes the Igboman living in Ibadan feel more successful than the person in Enugu or Awka. We MUST learn to build our homeland and STOP expending energy looking for who hates us or not. 1 Like |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 12:58pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning: You will not have it your way. Ndiigbo would not accept those who wear and remove Igbo tag like clothes, while the rest of us are stuck with the Igbo tag and the disadvantages that come with it, these fair-weather fake Igbos can simply put on Igbo tag when an opportunity presents for us, take the opportunity, exhaust it, and when they are done, remove the Igbo tag and throw it back at us. It will not stand. You will see. Ikwerre is not Igbo. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by frankfrancis871: 12:58pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
IGBOS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR HOST In Nasarawa we have many indigenous tribes but these are the ones I can remain: 1. Afo also known as Ojiri are mostly farmers who sell produce after farming. Produce like egusi etc. They relate well with Igbos that most Igbos take them as boy-boy nowadays, they are found in nasarawa (main town), maraba udege etc. 2. Gbayi are hardworking, very strong and friendly. They relate well with Igbos, most of their women are mothers of children of some Igbo men. They are found in nasarawa main town, even in Abuja. 3. Agatu are farmers just like Afo, some people refer to Agatu and Afo as one. I have never seen any married to an Igbo, they (almost all nasarawa tribes) are prey to fulani herdsmen. They are found in remote villages. 4. Bassa are also found in nasarawa main town tammah etc, there are bassas in kogi state. I have never seen any married to Igbos 5. Iguns are tough and ready for war, they dealt with fulani when they (fulani) brought war to them few years ago. 6. Ibiras are the ones who fought war with bassas earlier this year. The useless government did nothing to do it, Ibiras (kwoto) are never in good terms with bassas. There are many tribes which I don't remember, same goes to other northern states. Igbos are in good terms with all their hosts but they (hosts) are all suffer from Igbophobia and I don't know why. Why do nigerians suffer from igbophobia? 1 Like |
Re: . by frankfrancis871: 1:02pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
basilo101:Wow, which states do you stay? |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 1:11pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
OreMI22: You got it all wrong. My reason for my stance on Ikwerre, is that it is essential we defined who is Igbo. If we don't do this, the entire Nigeria would take us for a ride and exploit us to the fullest. Not long ago, GEJ is Igbo, Even Dakuku when he needed Igbo votes, became Igbo. Why do you think they are doing that? Have you ever asked yourself that? Until we rid ourselves of all these opportunists we would never regain our stand in Nigeria. You make Igbo tag a cheap commodity to groups who openly deride and denounce us, and you wonder why no one takes us serious any longer in Nigeria? Jim Nwobodo solved nothing. Ikwerres Igbo hate had nothing to do with our coming to Ikwerre land for jobs or to school. If it were, they would have simply enacted Indigene policies to protect and favour their own indigenes in admission processes and job opportunities, which is exactly what state schools in SE do. You will struggle as an Anambra man to get admission in EBSU Abakaliki,, because of their indigenous quota status. Same thing with getting jobs in any state government institution in any SE state that is not your state of origin. Indigenous protectionist policies are present in all SE states, yet they are not avenues for Igbophobia or Igbo denial. You are simply juxtaposing issues here. Infact I'm beginning to wonder if you even understand the fundamental issues in discourse here. You are simply all over the place. Nobody is dragging PH with anyone. I was born and bred in Enugu, I'm not from Enugu, I know I can't be governor of Enugu State tomorrow, but I also know that Enugu is an Igbo state whose people are Igbo people, and who Harbour no deep seated resentment towards me. By the way, I don't live in Ph, but I'm glad you know that any Igbo man who had lived in Ph, will never support any idea to add Ikwerre to Igboland. Because they would have come face to face with the scathing reality of the Igbophobia of those people. Eziokwu bu ndu. We will keep saying the truth, until our people swallow it, and together, we can revive the Igbo nation back to life again, after we must have cut off the current vampires and vultures feeding off us. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 1:13pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning: The way our righteousness is like abomination to God is exactly the way your persistence on this matter is to me. Majority carries the vote. Your Ikwerre friend is not enough to make Igbos the laughing stock of the world. No matter what you say here, Ikwerre isn't Igbo. QED. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by basilo101: 1:14pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871:Niger |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 1:16pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
InyinyaAgbaOku: Thank you. ![]() 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by superlightning: 1:17pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
InyinyaAgbaOku: What you think is inconsequential to me. Those who share my thoughts knows better. And stop calling God. Hate isn't in his agenda. Its an abomination for you haters to bring God into your hate analogy. |
Re: . by OreMI22: 1:18pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
What is so difficult for our people to grasp is that the quarrel in Nigeria is all about opportunity. The fear for the Igbo is exactly the fear or hatred you have for a better candidate that shows up to the same job interview as you. Let Ndigbo look inwards and build their own area. Let Ndigbo STOP focusing on how to count all the things they did to develop Kano or Sokoto! Let Ndigbo build their own infrastructure, and nobody will deny that you did it! We can get a world bank loan and get Chinese CCC to construct this railway network that will revolutionize the zone and ease the stress of doing business in our zone. But the SE governors must work together and stop acting like thin gods in their tiny states. The must look up and see the bigger picture of regional economic integration as the only viable way to develop the region. The first step is an efficient railway system and the second is a power generating capacity through coal and gas. Depending on FG to build anything reasonable in the SE is like asking Satan to help you get to heaven. It will NEVER happen! 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: . by GuyWise(m): 1:27pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
Oga Pazienza Chineke gozie gi. 2 Likes |
Re: . by OreMI22: 1:29pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza: Sometimes the senselessness of your post gets me. I have never seen anyone that does anything without a concrete outcome they want to achieve. But for you, you just want to rant for nothing until Ikwerres scream they are Igbo. So what?? If i don't need to use Japanese ports, airports and lands, why do i need to go on a tirade just to get Japanese to accept they are Igbo? You can see why and how you don't make sense at all. If you don't want to use port Harcourt and you know Igbos can stand without the Ikwerres, why don't you simply ignore them instead of spewing pointless hate on the internet? If you see an Ikwerre man claiming Igbo for a political position and you are tackling him with your points, then it would make sense then. What you want to achieve with your tirade is for Ikwerre to accept they are Igbo or not. Fine, if Ikwerre say they are Igbo, so what? What does it change? 2 Likes |
Re: . by superlightning: 1:29pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza: Mr. I-sabi-am-pass, all you have stated are sheer political gimmicks. If I want to be a house of rep member in Lagos or i want to get an appointment or contract in Lagos, I may play the politics of been seen as a lagosian. Why? because tribe and religion is a strong political tool in Nigeria. Stop creating a storm in a teacup. Zik played that politics too of been zungeru by birth to be embraced by northerners. He gave his children Yoruba names to be accepted by the Yoruba. Its all POLITICS. Are you this naive? Nobody is a fool, we are know our ethnic boundaries but as humans, we embrace those who readily identify with us. No non-igbo SS can dream of vying for governorship post in SE, but it does not stop them from wanting to identify with igbos. And for those who remain clinged to the notion of being culturally Igbo, you can't DIS-IGBO them. Let them be. 1 Like |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 1:31pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
GuyWise: Chukwu ya Agozie Anyi ncha, bu ndi na echebe oganihu Ndi Igbo mgbe Nile, tumadi mgbe ime nkaa na ebute aghotaghim, na etiti anyi na Ndi Igbo ozo. Ndewo, Nwannem. 3 Likes |
Re: . by superlightning: 1:32pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
OreMI22: Don't mind pazienza, people like him are weak at heart. They easily react and break to a little challenge or adversity. |
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 1:33pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
xfactor23: They will tell you to your face and go back and continue their I am not Igbo stance. Some of you just don't get it. If the chiefs are saying so, how come their masses aren't? Obviously, it's a scam 1 Like |
Re: . by GuyWise(m): 1:34pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
Oremi22 you are right, That is the reason we need someone in the Govt house so that the projects will not frustrated and abadoned. If by God's grace we get the VP position and eventually Pdp win, it will be a benefit to us. 1 Like |
Re: . by superlightning: 1:34pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
OreMI22: My brother, na i-too-know dey kill some of our brothers. Its incredible. Let them go on hosting and see where it takes them. |
Re: . by superlightning: 1:37pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
InyinyaAgbaOku: A scam from who? The chief? So you have concluded that the chief was scamming him. Believe whatever you wish to believe. Sometimes I wonder whether you are truly pan-igbo. |
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 1:41pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning: Anyone who thinks a multiethnic Biafra is a consideration in 2018 is not serious. . It's an Igbo nation we are looking into. We are even saying that Ikwerre and their cousins will not join and you are linking the rest. Abeg... 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 1:41pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning: No Igbo man or non Yoruba man can claim Yoruba in Lagos to win elections. Infact, Yorubas have fought fiercely with any non Yoruba who tried to use the term "Lagosians" to identify themselves. They are not as naive as you want us to be. Ikwerre as represented By Ogbako Ikwerre has said they are not Igbos. Celestine Omehia categorically said in Ogbako Ikwerre convention in 2015 that Ikwerre has no link with Ndiigbo, that they originated from Bini. Ogbako Ikwerre is not a political organization. It is a social cultural organization. If any Ikwerre want Ndiigbo to identify with Ikwerre, then they should go talk to Ogbako Ikwerre people and agree with themselves, and when they are done, they should come out unanimously to give us their decision. As it stands, Ikwerre is not Igbo, and there is no amount of cries, twisting and meandering you do on NL that will change that. You and your ilks should stop deceiving and setting up Ndiigbo for ridicule and exploitation from Ikwerre persons and and other SS Igboid groups whose people are not Igbos. Ndiigbo will nolonger accept this. Yorubas rejected vigorously attempts by Zik to pass off as a Lagosian and rule SW. Whether Zik intentions were genuine or not genuine, the fact still remain that Yoruba national interests are better protected by one of them, and not a person with questionable loyalty. Simply giving your child Yoruba names or answering Yoruba names shouldn't be good enough. And same is applicable to Ikwerres. They aren't Igbos. Any of your Ikwerre friends uncomfortable with this truth, should go and meet his Eze and Ogbako Ikwerre, and not Ndiigbo. Dalu. 6 Likes |
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