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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 12:57pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
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Re: . by Nobody: 1:10pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
MelesZenawi:The bolded is right and wrong. What Nnewi had before the coming of the white man was a Chief not King. The colonial master elevated the position to kingly staus under the warrant chief indirect rule system. However, Nnewi don't have two Kingship stools as other neighbouring clans. There was an existing Ofo title holder and Ezeodumegwu respected that stool and told the British to respect their tradition. This is why there is only one Igwe Nnewi and no Eze Nnewi and Igwe Nnewi as others have. Take a look at Umuoji for example and tell me what you see? You'll see an Eze Umuoji as well as Igwe Umuoji. The former is the Ofo holder and the later, who unlike Ezeodumegwu didn't respect the Ofo holder sought the warrant chieftaincy. The scenario happened in Orlu where there exist an Igwe Orlu and an Eze Orlu. However, the coming of democracy in 1999 fragmented the stool more, with successive government creating autonomous communities from existing kingdoms. Similar to what is happening right now in Kano emirate and almost happened in Ibadan. 2 Likes |
Re: . by Nobody: 1:29pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
UdechiHD: Mr don't twist a bare fact before you after going back to research, u jump in here with another nonsense narrative. There is no right or wrong...It is what it is and what isn't. ..... Stop misbehaving, research well and read. Nnewi has four semi-autonomous parts: Otolo, Uruagu, Umudim and Nnewichi. Each of these quarters has an Obi which has been hereditary since inception, but the Obi of Otolo (the most senior quarter) is the Igwe of Nnewi. Whoever is the Obi of Otolo is automatically the Igwe of Nnewi. It is not contestable. The Whiteman met it like that when he came. When the Whiteman (Major Moorhouse) and his army marched into Nnewi in 1904, the young Igwe, whose father had just died, was spirited away for fear that the Whiteman would kill him. His uncle Nwosu Odumegwu, who was the richest man in Nnewi then, received the visitors. They thought he was the Igwe but he told them no that the Igwe was in mourning and should not see visitors while mourning the late Igwe. Given that Ezeodumegwu was wealthy and influential, the Whiteman sought to make him the Warrant Chief of Nnewi, but he vehemently refused. The Whiteman was said to have expressed his surprise that an African would refuse to be made the Warrant Chief of his people by the Whiteman. When Ezeodumegwu and other elders got a firm assurance that the young king would not be harmed, they arranged for a public meeting between the Igwe and the Whiteman at the Nkwo Nnewi Square. On the appointed day, Igwe accompanied by the other three Obi of the three quarters came out to meet with the Whiteman in the presence of the Nnewi People. Igwe was a young man of 23 years then. Ps: Ezeodumegwu was just a title he took...Don't stress your ignorance far. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: . by Nobody: 1:34pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
pazienza:The bolded is the truth. We came from the northern direction to where we currently are. Precisely, the point of dispersion began in the NOK valley in current Kaduna state. If you take a look at the similarities between us and other YEAI group of languages, you'll see an undeniable relationship. We have related spoken languages amongst ourselves. And the artifacts of Igbo Ukwu, Ife and Benin all share similarities with the NOK artifacts. Historians agree that the NOK civilization was the mother of other civilization in present Nigeria which thrived in prehistoric times. There are striking similarities between the NOK artifacts and the Egyptian artifacts. Thus , it is agreed that the NOK likely migrated from ancient Egypt. However, what is still debatable is the conundrums of revisionist history of many southern tribes. Some groups in order to create a superiority complex identity magnify their existence as sky beings. This is similar to the story of Oduduwa of Ife, the Ogiso of Igodomingodo and Eri. I've a deep feeling that in truth, we and other ethnic groups such as the Yoruba, Nupe, Gbagyi, Edo, Igala, Idoma, Akan, Fon etc are related and that our true cradle of civilization lies in the NOK valley of Kaduna, before our dispersion down south occurred. |
Re: . by Abia1stboy: 1:53pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
MelesZenawi: This is of a truth |
Re: . by Abia1stboy: 1:57pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Even for some of us, our leader Nnamd Kanu from faraway Abia state recognized the origin of Igbo land when he visited Eri king at Obu Gad 1 Like
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Re: . by Abia1stboy: 2:00pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Our leader Nnamdi kanu fell flat in recognition of his origin at Obu Gad 2 Likes
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Re: . by Nobody: 2:03pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Abia1stboy: I just tire for that man that's why I won't allow what I knew very well slide like this. This is like spreading falsehood by him and he was feeling that that he is right. |
Re: . by Nobody: 2:06pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
MelesZenawi:My point still remain, Igbo's didn't have Kings. The Ofo title is hereditary in Igboland and passes from father to son. The four quarters of Nnewi was founded on the stool of the the Ofo where each quarter is headed by an elder called Obi/Eze/Ichie. By rightly of seniority, the most senior quarter assumes the headship of the whole community. This isn't a system of Kingship. This is pure Igbo republicanism at work. The Obi's held the Ofo and were the chiefs of their immediate houses who represented their quarters in the council of elders. They had no dictatorial powers, had no army, could not tax the people and could be removed if they broke the laws of the village. The British introduced Kingship into Igbo land with the warrant chief system for the purpose of taxation and to enforce colonial rule. Go and learn the culture and traditions of your people before you come out to argue with me. 1 Like |
Re: . by okpalaAnambra: 2:12pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
MelesZenawi:Shut up and stop talking about Nnewi you know nothing about...I'm from Nnewi and we never had kings before the white men came...we only had umunna with a chief who was incharge of the communities...infact Nnewi itself as it is today was from different people who were independent and decided to group themselves together 2 Likes |
Re: . by Abia1stboy: 2:13pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Igbo had kings even before the coming of colonial masters. For instance the Obi of Onitsha dynasty has been before Europeans came to Africa 1 Like |
Re: . by Nobody: 2:16pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
UdechiHD: Rest and stop disgracing yourself further. King in igbo means. Eze or Igwe...so what are you even writing. Everybody can't be Imo state that has destroyed everything remaining of culture in that state. Cultureless, no kings.. even two compounds will fight for autonomous community. One small community will have 4 ezes of each autonomous community. This is what greediness and bitterness can cause. What you refer to as king today are just bunch of recalcitrant characters with no substance. Go to mbaise you will see 9 autonomous Orlu you will meet 27 autonomous ezes Owerri that one worst pass....every street has autonomous this and autonomous that. Don't use the nonsense happening in Imo state to think it is the samething other places. Gidigidi bu ugwu eze... 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: . by Abia1stboy: 2:16pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
For instance Obi of Onitsha dynasty is over 400years. 1 Like
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Re: . by Abia1stboy: 2:17pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Before the Europeans came there were existing cultures and language which they relied on. Their first contact in Igbo land was Onitsha, no wonder the first igbo literature, bible etc were written in Onitsha dialect.
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Re: . by Nobody: 2:19pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
okpalaAnambra: Please shift to one side and go and meet your Eze Dick in Abia state. As far this traditional is here, you don't deserve my response not even one bit. Move back to Abia and stop disgracing yourself further. 1 Like |
Re: . by Nobody: 2:20pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Abia1stboy: Don't mind those clowns that greediness has spoit their traditional system. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: . by Abia1stboy: 2:28pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
By the time Europeans arrived Onitsha with missionaries in 1857 there were already existing order, culture, language, traditional government that points to the origin of igbo land in this axis particularly Eri/Nri.
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Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 2:30pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
I can't believe you people are arguing over modern ezeship. It's the legacy of the warrant chief system. This is not news. The word "eze" was used to legitimize the warrant chiefs after the British ended their colonial rule. C'mon now. Umu Igbo, are you ignorant of your own history? Also, the term "eze" did not mean king. It's more appropriate meaning is an individual with ritual authority within a community. Ritual authority was with respect to managing veneration of or the upkeep of the local shrines, and often times serving as a custodian of local custom. The Eze did not hold authority over the daily lives of people and therefore had no subjects, which are key features of actual kingship (monarchy). The Eze typically held the ofo as a sign of their ritual authority. In some places, like the south, lineages held ofo and not eze. Also, there was hereditary/divine rulership in the region before Europeans came. These cases were small in number, but represent the closest thing to actual kingship in the area. Nnewi is part of this category that possessed the closest thing to actual kingship. Anyhow, long story short... The Igbo ethnolinguistic region went from having about three (if I remember correctly) known hereditary/divine rule ships to becoming the land of a thousand eze in just a few decades, and these self-serving dummies are now kings. Ha. Modern ezeship is a farce. 1 Like |
Re: . by IDENNAA(m): 2:31pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
I had to unpack the bollocks you wrote up there. First of all, the Eze Nri is not just a chief priest but a spiritual and cultural leader who didnt wield any military powers. He lives mostly in seclusion , celebrate the Igu Aro , initiate the ozo , and igba afa etc. Many Nri communities used to pay tribute(Ikpo Nhu) to the Eze Nri. So, he is not a king like Oba of Bini but he wielded much influence , especially in Anambra ,Enugu, Delta ,and Northern Imo. Dont get me wrong , I am not saying Nri invented most of what we know as Omanbala culture today but they spearheaded it. You dont have to throw those little jibes at Nri but you cant change the records. If you want to present the argument that says Eze Nri is a mere chief what then do you call the men at the apex of Nze na Ozo like the Agbalanze , Ndichie Ume etc. I also noticed you tried very hard to bring Eze Nri in comparisons with Eze Aro but the latter wielded no cultural influence. Nri and Aro were not the same, while Aro was set up as a money making venture(irrespective of the source) Nri was a spiritual and culrural Mecca with Eze Nri as a priest King with Mbuluchis. Ama ka nmili ama oga akikia ka dia n'aru...You ca never undo the greatness of Nri. And like I said many towns in Anambra contributed to the Omanbala culture..the Onichas, the Idenmilis , the Aguleri , the Oyis , the Awkas etc. These areas and more made what I refer to Omanbala culture. Ezeulu is a chief priest who was assigned to a shrine. I am eminently from the area Achebe wrote about, Idenmili. Dont teach me my history , thats my job. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: . by Nobody: 2:32pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Abia1stboy:Dynasty lol! You mean Onitsha mili the lowest amongst the Eze Chima clan or another Onitsha mili ![]() A dynasty that could not conquer the small neighbours of Nkpo, Ogbaru and was barely allocated a few piece of land to live. Please don't make us laugh. A dynasty that was unknown before the coming of Bishop Crowther, who used that section of Igboland for his missionary activities. Well, every clan too has a dynasty. I can begin to mention the Ofo holders of my clan and allot them dynasty according to the genealogy, isn't it. I'll name myself Udechi X (the tenth) since I'm an Ofo holder and in line to the throne of my father. Lol! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: . by Abia1stboy: 2:34pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Stop quoting me if you know nothing. Now it is about conquests and no longer about its existence. Get proper education |
Re: . by Nobody: 2:35pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: For those using Eze as prefix not old and long standing tradition we know. Eze is more prominent in Imo/Abia/Rivers/ebonyi/Enugu.... More like these states doesn't really have culture at all... |
Re: . by Abia1stboy: 2:38pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Obi of Onitsha dynasty proves that civilisation and origin of igbo land started in this region where Eri king/kingdom started off.
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Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 2:41pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
MelesZenawi: More appropriately, we do not share your culture. 1 Like |
Re: . by Abia1stboy: 2:42pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
Obi of Onitsha dynasty was already established with instruments of government before Crowther, Equino and rest arrived Onitsha. This points to its origin.
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Re: . by Nobody: 2:43pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: You don't have any..so you have to take the right one we are giving you. We can't sit and allow you guys descrate igbo culture. It is our duty to call you guys to order. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 2:45pm On Feb 02, 2020 |
MelesZenawi: So you’re one of the Anambra puritans who think you gave pre-existing groups of people civilization? Hehe. This is who I’m supposed to happily share unity with? We will desecrate your culture if we like. Sit there and froth at the mouth. 2 Likes |
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