Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Dsimmer: 6:30pm On Jul 24 |
Olu317:
Just imagine how ignorant you have been! It will be a waste of time dealing with you which will take 5000+ years from now before your ignorance can be wipe out because you lack the willingness to LEARN. SO, live in your disjointed ignorance.
Let me teach some Ignorant you that who lacked the pedigree to understudy because once some of the see a word,they quickly related to their own's langauge without doing linguistic research to proof if such word could be related in more than twenty meaning,with a to ears one being related to their local language. But instead, you will see some,playing the hate card.
And ooh yes,I have more to show. Unlike your kind that use Nri,Ada etc as your link... . You see, many of your type blundered and, I will treat the name ‘ADA', today,so as to expose your ignorance.Below is the meaning of ‘Ada', in Paleo-Hebrew, Ibo and Yoruba:
Paleo Hebrew: Adaha'-da (`adhah,which means Meaning : “adornment",splendour
Ibo/Igbo: Ada Meaning: first daughter × ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Yoruba': Àdà/ dah-Dà Meaning: adornment, splendour, beautiful
Paleo Hebrew:Elyon Meaning: most highest,most high-God(by extention ;lord of heaven and earth
Ibo: Chukwu Meaning:most high-God × ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Yoruba: olorun-olohun Meaning: most high– God(by extension; lord of heaven and earth
OMO IBO, as you can see that Yorubas didn't and dont share their RITUAL/SACRED LANGUAGE WITH IBOS...In fact, I know the classical PaleoHebrew Root word for this name. So flee when you see Yoruba digging deep into the past...
Lastly, I pity you omoIbo... because you are on wrong platform with right set of people....I advise you to flee from here lease it becomes unbearable intellectually for you. Elyon is similar to Olorun while Elohim should be Olohun ![cool](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cool.png) I think even though I sometimes try to dig deep, I still find the whole Hebrew connection funny. Lol. Of course I acknowledge there are several similarities. Apart from Yoruba words with similar meanings as the Isreaelites' such as (Binu/Benas, Aanu/Haanah, Melo/Melo, Iwa/Iwa, Aye/Hayah etc), Yoruba have also got similar names for the supreme creator as the Israelites. There is also the Yoruba tradition of making the second twin the elder (Akobi) of the twins like the case of Jacob and so on). However, I have always believed that Yoruba had nothing to do with the Israelites to begin with but when I started seeing the several funny similarities, it kinda baffles me. Lol. As a matter of fact, I don't want any Yoruba words to be lost. You would even see some idiots trying to replace Yoruba intelligent words. That tend to annoy me the most tbh. Another is the false narrative written about Oduduwa by some people whereas Oduduwa is from Oke Ora according to Ifa. Some people often think that the fact that the Yoruba often state that Oduduwa descended from the sky meant the Yoruba didn't know where Oduduwa came from. Lol. These people tend to forget or don't know that there's difference between Orisha Oduduwa and the Oduduwa king. The Orisha Oduduwa descended from the sky while the Oduduwa king came from Oke ora to become the king of Ife. As a matter of fact, If Yoruba parted from the Isrealites, it wasn't Oduduwa king who was actually from Oke Ora in Ife. Point is Oduduwa isn't from anywhere else but from Oke Ora. He's a Yoruba man from Oke Ora📌 In fact, prior to Oduduwa of Oke Ora becoming the king, there was also Obatala who was the king. So If the Yoruba indeed parted from the Isrealites, it would have been the first Yoruba that settled in Ife before Obatala emerged as the king among them and then Oduduwa of Oke Ora becoming the king afterwards, thereby depicting the creation of the universe by Orisha Obatala (light) and Orisha Oduduwa (matter). So as much as Obatala and Oduduwa are historical kings in Yoruba history, they're also depicting the Orishas which represent light and matter (which includes the earth matter) which formed the universe. Of course if Yoruba indeed parted from Isrealites, It's plausible that the first Yoruba settled in Ife before Obatala emerged as the king among them. And of course, the Yoruba ancestors were obviously very intelligent to have known how the universe was created, thus Orisha Obatala (light) and Orisha Oduduwa (matter) which represent the universe creation. My conclusion is if the Yoruba indeed parted from Isrealites, I doubt it was in Israel. Because if it was in Israel, why couldn't they remember Moses, the red sea, the 10 commandments? I mean if the Yoruba got to Israel land, they should have remembered Moses, the red sea and the 10 commandments! So I doubt the Yoruba were in Israel land but it's possible they parted from the Isrealites while the Isrealites were still in the old Egypt. The Yoruba doesn't also seem to remember Abraham although it's plausible that the Yoruba may not remember Abraham but they should know about Jacob, considering they supposedly descended from Jacob who was also in Egypt, especially if it's in Egypt they parted 🤔.. Although it seems the Yoruba does remember Jacob, considering the Yoruba twin (Akobi) tradition. However, the Yoruba don't know about Moses, the red sea and the 10 commandments hence I don't think they parted in Israel. I'm still in two mode of thoughts. They either parted early from the Isrealites in the old Egypt or they're just ancient people doing their thing. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Dsimmer: 10:28am On Jul 26 |
Dsimmer:
Elyon is similar to Olorun while Elohim should be Olohun ![cool](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cool.png)
I think even though I sometimes try to dig deep, I still find the whole Hebrew connection funny. Lol. Of course I acknowledge there are several similarities. Apart from Yoruba words with similar meanings as the Isreaelites' such as (Binu/Benas, Aanu/Haanah, Melo/Melo, Iwa/Iwa, Aye/Hayah etc), Yoruba have also got similar names for the supreme creator as the Israelites. There is also the Yoruba tradition of making the second twin the elder (Akobi) of the twins like the case of Jacob and so on). However, I have always believed that Yoruba had nothing to do with the Israelites to begin with but when I started seeing the several funny similarities, it kinda baffles me. Lol.
As a matter of fact, I don't want any Yoruba words to be lost. You would even see some idiots trying to replace Yoruba intelligent words. That tend to annoy me the most tbh.
Another is the false narrative written about Oduduwa by some people whereas Oduduwa is from Oke Ora according to Ifa. Some people often think that the fact that the Yoruba often state that Oduduwa descended from the sky meant the Yoruba didn't know where Oduduwa came from. Lol. These people tend to forget or don't know that there's difference between Orisha Oduduwa and the Oduduwa king. The Orisha Oduduwa descended from the sky while the Oduduwa king came from Oke ora to become the king of Ife. As a matter of fact, If Yoruba parted from the Isrealites, it wasn't Oduduwa king who was actually from Oke Ora in Ife. Point is Oduduwa isn't from anywhere else but from Oke Ora. He's a Yoruba man from Oke Ora📌
In fact, prior to Oduduwa of Oke Ora becoming the king, there was also Obatala who was the king. So If the Yoruba indeed parted from the Isrealites, it would have been the first Yoruba that settled in Ife before Obatala emerged as the king among them and then Oduduwa of Oke Ora becoming the king afterwards, thereby depicting the creation of the universe by Orisha Obatala (light) and Orisha Oduduwa (matter). So as much as Obatala and Oduduwa are historical kings in Yoruba history, they're also depicting the Orishas which represent light and matter (which includes the earth matter) which formed the universe.
Of course if Yoruba indeed parted from Isrealites, It's plausible that the first Yoruba settled in Ife before Obatala emerged as the king among them. And of course, the Yoruba ancestors were obviously very intelligent to have known how the universe was created, thus Orisha Obatala (light) and Orisha Oduduwa (matter) which represent the universe creation. My conclusion is if the Yoruba indeed parted from Isrealites, I doubt it was in Israel. Because if it was in Israel, why couldn't they remember Moses, the red sea, the 10 commandments? I mean if the Yoruba got to Israel land, they should have remembered Moses, the red sea and the 10 commandments! So I doubt the Yoruba were in Israel land but it's possible they parted from the Isrealites while the Isrealites were still in the old Egypt.
The Yoruba doesn't also seem to remember Abraham although it's plausible that the Yoruba may not remember Abraham but they should know about Jacob, considering they supposedly descended from Jacob who was also in Egypt, especially if it's in Egypt they parted 🤔.. Although it seems the Yoruba does remember Jacob, considering the Yoruba twin (Akobi) tradition. However, the Yoruba don't know about Moses, the red sea and the 10 commandments hence I don't think they parted in Israel. I'm still in two mode of thoughts. They either parted early from the Isrealites in the old Egypt or they're just ancient people doing their thing. Meanwhile, let me add that Elyon which means "Most high" emphasized my point when some dumb idiots were saying it was Olohun blah blah while forgetting that Olorun is also the Yoruba name of the supreme creator. Olorun means "Lord of heaven/greatest height". How do one measure height? It's measured from the deepest part to the highest point. So when one says Olorun, it means "Lord of the greatest height"! Elyon also means "most high". The Israelites would say "El Elyon" while Yoruba would say "Olorun Eledumare". Of course "Olohun" is also another Yoruba name for the supreme creator. It means "Lord of all things". The Isrealites would say 'Elohim'.. Another Yoruba name for the supreme creator is Ìyè Ayeraye which is similar to Yahweh which means the same thing. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Dijita: 3:56pm On Jul 26 |
HajimeSaito:
Wisdom, intelligence and knowledge are not strangers, they are all part of the same deal. It is impossible for an intelligent man to lack wisdom and knowledge. Indeed intelligence is the physical manifestation of both those qualities (wisdom and knowledge) and the more intelligent a man is, the better he is at applying wisdom and knowledge to the difficult task of navigating his way through life.
You may wallow in self pity for as much as you want, but no honest person will ever accept plagiarism and reinvention as signs of true intelligence in much the same way as a clever conman will never be regarded as a genius.
As much I don't disagree with you 100%. I think it is wrong to say that it is impossible for an intelligent person to lack wisdom. You can be intelligent through the acquisition of knowledge. If your parent have the resources to send you to a very good school and you are dedicated to your studies you will acquire knowledge. The understanding of the knowledge you acquire makes you to be intelligent. However, if you lack wisdom you may just be an intelligent fool. The proper application of knowledge and understanding is what is call wisdom. In our country we have many professors, scientist and religious leaders that are considered to be intelligent but lack the wisdom to convert their knowledge and understanding to alleviate our societal problem. "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding" Proverb 4: 7. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 12:15pm On Aug 06 |
Dsimmer:
Elyon is similar to Olorun while Elohim should be Olohun ![cool](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cool.png)
I think even though I sometimes try to dig deep, I still find the whole Hebrew connection funny. Lol. Of course I acknowledge there are several similarities. Apart from Yoruba words with similar meanings as the Isreaelites' such as (Binu/Benas, Aanu/Haanah, Melo/Melo, Iwa/Iwa, Aye/Hayah etc), Yoruba have also got similar names for the supreme creator as the Israelites. There is also the Yoruba tradition of making the second twin the elder (Akobi) of the twins like the case of Jacob and so on). However, I have always believed that Yoruba had nothing to do with the Israelites to begin with but when I started seeing the several funny similarities, it kinda baffles me. Lol.
As a matter of fact, I don't want any Yoruba words to be lost. You would even see some idiots trying to replace Yoruba intelligent words. That tend to annoy me the most tbh.
Another is the false narrative written about Oduduwa by some people whereas Oduduwa is from Oke Ora according to Ifa. Some people often think that the fact that the Yoruba often state that Oduduwa descended from the sky meant the Yoruba didn't know where Oduduwa came from. Lol. These people tend to forget or don't know that there's difference between Orisha Oduduwa and the Oduduwa king. The Orisha Oduduwa descended from the sky while the Oduduwa king came from Oke ora to become the king of Ife. As a matter of fact, If Yoruba parted from the Isrealites, it wasn't Oduduwa king who was actually from Oke Ora in Ife. Point is Oduduwa isn't from anywhere else but from Oke Ora. He's a Yoruba man from Oke Ora📌
In fact, prior to Oduduwa of Oke Ora becoming the king, there was also Obatala who was the king. So If the Yoruba indeed parted from the Isrealites, it would have been the first Yoruba that settled in Ife before Obatala emerged as the king among them and then Oduduwa of Oke Ora becoming the king afterwards, thereby depicting the creation of the universe by Orisha Obatala (light) and Orisha Oduduwa (matter). So as much as Obatala and Oduduwa are historical kings in Yoruba history, they're also depicting the Orishas which represent light and matter (which includes the earth matter) which formed the universe.
Of course if Yoruba indeed parted from Isrealites, It's plausible that the first Yoruba settled in Ife before Obatala emerged as the king among them. And of course, the Yoruba ancestors were obviously very intelligent to have known how the universe was created, thus Orisha Obatala (light) and Orisha Oduduwa (matter) which represent the universe creation. My conclusion is if the Yoruba indeed parted from Isrealites, I doubt it was in Israel. Because if it was in Israel, why couldn't they remember Moses, the red sea, the 10 commandments? I mean if the Yoruba got to Israel land, they should have remembered Moses, the red sea and the 10 commandments! So I doubt the Yoruba were in Israel land but it's possible they parted from the Isrealites while the Isrealites were still in the old Egypt.
The Yoruba doesn't also seem to remember Abraham although it's plausible that the Yoruba may not remember Abraham but they should know about Jacob, considering they supposedly descended from Jacob who was also in Egypt, especially if it's in Egypt they parted 🤔.. Although it seems the Yoruba does remember Jacob, considering the Yoruba twin (Akobi) tradition. However, the Yoruba don't know about Moses, the red sea and the 10 commandments hence I don't think they parted in Israel. I'm still in two mode of thoughts. They either parted early from the Isrealites in the old Egypt or they're just ancient people doing their thing. What does Elyon means? |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Dsimmer: 1:50pm On Aug 06 |
Olu317: What does Elyon means? Most high. Just like Olorun which is Lord of heaven/greatest height. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 10:30am On Aug 07 |
Dsimmer:
Most high. Just like Olorun which is Lord of heaven/greatest height. Post the rootword of Elyon and semitic inscription that detailed how Olorun is derived from Elyon to have same orclosely related meaning. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Dsimmer: 10:55am On Aug 07 |
Olu317: Post the rootword of Elyon and semitic inscription that detailed how Olorun is derived from Elyon to have same orclosely related meaning. I'm talking about the Yoruba meaning of the word. One thing is, Yoruba know the meaning of all their words in their own Yoruba language, irrespective of the similarities with the Israelites' words. The word Olorun means "Lord of heaven/the greatest height". The meaning of the Israelites' word "Elyon" means Most high. Likewise the Yoruba word "Oluwa" which is similar to the Israelites' word "Eloah/Elowah". There's also the Yoruba word "Ìyè Ayeraye" which is similar to the Israelites' word "Yahweh" which means alive. Yoruba are using their own language and know the meaning of it according to their own language📌, irrespective of the similarities with the Israelites' (Jewish). It's not as if Yoruba are using foreign language thus need to go find the meaning according to the foreign language. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 3:17pm On Aug 07 |
Dsimmer:
I'm talking about the Yoruba meaning of the word. One thing is, Yoruba know the meaning of all their words in their own Yoruba language, irrespective of the similarities with the Israelites' words.
The word Olorun means "Lord of heaven/greatest height". The meaning of the Israelites' word "Elyon" means Most high.
Likewise the Yoruba word "Oluwa" which is similar to the Israelites' word "Eloah/Elowah".
There's also the Yoruba word "Ìyè Ayeraye" which is similar to the Israelites' word "Yahweh" which means alive.
Hence, Yoruba understand the words in their own Yoruba language📌, irrespective of the similarities Chai I give up to this your scholarly assertion. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) |