Moneywomen17:
history 105 after the Benin were easily defeated by the owo and every Benin chased from akure back to Benin an army led by ogedengbe conquered into the heart of Benin village and conquer their way through Benin murdering every chief and community leader along the way and parading their dead body around to show who the new ruler of their land his and also taking numerous slave as price. In the capital Benin the king quickly came out to beg the warrior ogedengbe and offered him numerous wealth and female slave to appease him which he took along with one of the king wife. Chai Benin boys cowardice no be here begging instead of fighting smh

Another amala voodoo historian. This is the figment of imagination of a deluded mind. Meanwhile the same Owo is today practicing Edo culture which is clearly evident even tithe blind.
That's the colonization I was talking about little boy.

Moneywomen17:
in this thread alone we already found out Benin attack some few kingdom in ekiti who later came back for revenge and took their land and women and also their ogiso is dumb and elkhadaren is a fraud let’s see what davidnaze will expose to us next

This thread only exposed the fraud called ooni as alluded to by the Oba of Benin, the Alaafin of Oyo, the Olugbo of Ugbo and many others. We also know that Yoruba actually doesn't have any meaningful history as what you have is just revisions, distortions and fraudulent constructions. That's why supremacy battles are common place amongst you.
Yoruba is thoroughly empty. We've also seen that the entire yo-ROBBERland was the biggest slave market in Africa. Your forefathers were so greedy that they couldn't even wait for others to sell their people as slaves, but had to do it themselves. That my friend is what you sham and scam stories expose.

MayorofLagos:
This address is to Edos.

From written records the first people and Kingdom the sea merchants traded with was Itsekiri. After that the Bini Kingdom.

We are in 2000s, Europeans have been coming to your land since 1400s, if not earlier. You should pay attention to the way Europeans write about you, against their style when writing about others. When they write about Itsekiri they just say Itsekiri, they never qualify it as Itsekiri Kingdom. When they write about Ijo, they just say Ijo. When they write about Yoruba they never say Yoruba Kingdom. So why do they always, without exception, write about you in the context of your Kingdom? This is so because they recognize a blend, an homogeneity between Itsekiri King and his people, Ijo King and his people, Yoruba King and his people. In your case they see a heterogeneous society - the foreigner aristocrat King that maintains a distinct separation in class and status from the indigenous class of chiefs.

Go to any museum or library abroad and say you are looking for materials on Edo people. They will remark and say 'Aahh, that's the Bini Kingdom!" Why can't Edo be recognized for what it is without reference to Bini Kingdom? If you ask for material on Yoruba they will respond and say we have on Ife, Oyo, Ketu, Ijesha, Egba, Ekiti, Owo, Ijebu, Lagos, Popo, Ilorin, and so on....no one ever says "Oooh, the Oyo Empire".


I will be honest, Bini deserve credit for its wars and victories. Yoruba fought other Empires. For many years we trounced Dahomey but it came at last and won a victory over us. Nupe defeated us, we recovered and defeated them. Fulani defeated us, we recovered and defeated them. When the British came we defeated them twice in Lagos and by act of accident Britain was able to gain upper hand and seized the town from us. They went to Ijebu and fought them. Ijebu protected its waterways and toll gate stubbornly. At last Britain gained upper hand. Except in Lagos, no other dynasty in Yorubaland was ever exiled or deposed by Britain. In fact the case of Lagos, Kosoko showed them pepper, they ended up begging him for peace so they can focus on their trade with no distraction. There are only three ancient dynasties in Nigeria that never lost chain or throne to a foreign power. Yoruba is one, Borgu is second, Kanuri is third. None of the other two has spent as many years in war as Yoruba did, internally and externally. In fact Ibadan at one single time was fighting five directional wars, each with a different enemy force and it defeated every one of them. Successes of Nigeria over Biafra were secured in the camps that had Yoruba in command. Imagine if the people you call coward had not come forward to rescue MidWest, you would speaking Ibo by now. I know some of you like to refer to Ilorin. The game changer in Ilorin was Afonja. Even the Fulani feared Afonja, and when he laid dead they continued to shoot arrow into him so there won't be surprises. Take Afonja out of the picture and Fulani would never had entered into Yorubaland with warfare.....but thats all in hindsight now, Fulani rule Ilorin and there's no wishing it away.


How many of the enemies you ever fought and won were Empires? You can't go pick on small villages and hamlets to pay you tributary and you call that colonized.


Yes Bini defeated Eastern Yoruba communities, as narrated by Y0ruba, six of them, but these places got smart, recovered and defeated Bini in a rematch. This is the nature of war and conflicts. You will not be the first to defeat Yoruba towns or the only one we took reprisal against and collected our victory back.


When you speak of yourself in grandeur terms I want you to reflect and remember what history you are recalling. You are bragging on what was written about you and circulated around the world in publications. The earlier writers became reference for the historians, anthropologists and linguists that came behind. I want to show you the profile ozone of the early chroniclers of Bini history, named Olfert Dapper. This man's work is what became the manuscript of Bini history and was used as reference by other writers.






This man that has never set foot in Africa wrote this about Bini.




This and many more embellishments is what you Edos live on and call greatness. It has blinded you to the realities around you. While you are stuck in a fantasy land built on white man's imagination and hallucinations of 1600, time has passed by and in 2000s your city has been reduced to an enclave and your tributaries of old have shut you out of the sea that once heralded your greatness to the world. Democracy rule the world now, not dynasty. The currency of exchange today is politics, not ivory. Where is your politics?


Anyway, I will return to my guest status but before I do, let me share with you that there are long list of researchers and writers on Bini, indigenous and foreign. It will be hard to quote of works of indigenous without appearing biased, even when its the truth. Therefore I will from time to time sign in and go deep and unravel your mysteries and myths so the world can see that Edo is an empty land....your foreign Oba is who brought you into world attention. Oranmiyan did for you what a thousand Ogiso could not do.



Here is list of writers I will be quoting from....

Olfert Dapper
James Graham
Laurenco Pinto
R.H. Bacon
Capt. Alan Boisragon
D. Van Nyendael
R.E. Bradbury
Dmitri Bondarenko
Henry Roth
A.F. Mockler-Ferryman
A.C. Burns
C.R. Niven
Thomas Hodgkin
J.D. Fage
Barbot
Barros
Artus
Windham
Welsh
Donnan
Capt. Landolphe
Burton
Owen
Gallwey
William Smith
Fawckner


Cheers!

Ekaladheran davidnazee on dobe le fun o

Mayor,

Okare iwo oko Chinyere.





Ekaladheran steveosaz on dobale fun o.

steveosaz:



See confirmed coward talking. Which Yoruba sent Igbo parking at ore? It was Nig army(mainly northern officers) your Fulani overlords that came to your rescue. The Igbo's who actually hate you people like shit are a more sensible people that the ever lying and ridiculously insane Yoruba. That the Igbo withstood mortar and heavy battle for 3 years is enough to show they ain't your equal. Yoruba was basically peeing in their pants all the while.

e pain am the Nigerian soldier that fought in ore were Yoruba led by iluyomade. U mean colonel iluyomade who lead his troop in ore and destroy the biafra and chase them back is kanuri meanwhile the same biafra army lead by victor banjo another Yoruba conquered ur whole town in less than 24 hours that has to be a record lol.

davidnazee:


why e no go sweet you.. U still never identify ur gender or try correct the impression ur useless brother Olu don give us about u..

stop shedding tears this thread sweat wella

steveosaz:


Good that you know these adjectives are used to describe your people. That's because that's actually what you are.

e pain u well na haters talk u na they talk yoruba na ur baba any day u nd ur ibo brother

steveosaz:


Hahahaha... Don't worry, no matter the amount of lies you peddle, it wouldn't change the fact that the Oba had your coward Deji of Akure beheaded openly before his subjects in the market square. That was raw hard justice.

wont also change the fact of all ur chiefs beheaded and paraded around ur village by ogedengbe and all ur lead warrior who were slaughtered like fowl and their follower had to surrender.

steveosaz:


You are particularly one dumb pig for a woman. you clearly should be in the motor park.

e enter am well slowpoke u are lol

steveosaz:


Another amala voodoo historian. This is the figment of imagination of a deluded mind. Meanwhile the same Owo is today practicing Edo culture which is clearly evident even tithe blind.
That's the colonization I was talking about little boy.

what culture is bigger than bini who worship Yoruba god name their children Yoruba name u probably have a Yoruba name too what’s ur Yoruba name is it dele? That’s what u called colonization leaving ur mark on ur subject. Yoruba mark on Benin can never be washed away even if u try to chai

steveosaz:


This thread only exposed the fraud called ooni as alluded to by the Oba of Benin, the Alaafin of Oyo, the Olugbo of Ugbo and many others. We also know that Yoruba actually doesn't have any meaningful history as what you have is just revisions, distortions and fraudulent constructions. That's why supremacy battles are common place amongst you.
Yoruba is thoroughly empty. We've also seen that the entire yo-ROBBERland was the biggest slave market in Africa. Your forefathers were so greedy that they couldn't even wait for others to sell their people as slaves, but had to do it themselves. That my friend is what you sham and scam stories expose.

e pain am well bow to ooni ur king owes his throne to him

AxxeMan:


Far far better than been a Yoruba .... Stupid stinky bastard born of an who.re

ibo boy i knew you were ibo masquerading as Edo ..oba benin will behead you for the rubbish you are doing here

davidnazee:


The British governed us directly becos they know if the tried the Egba deal with us we will arm ourselves and bring war to them if given the opportunity. They knew we are warriors and don’t relent in our fight.. unlike the cowardly Yoruba tribe.

when they hung your most revered chiefs and disgrace your oba ..

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ibo boy i knew you were ibo masquerading as Edo ..oba benin will behead you for the rubbish you are doing here [/quote][/s]

Bloody yorober pervert obsessed with Edo greatness .... Bloody thief !! Better go and list over whatever tiny shit u ppl might have in your south wasted land .... Ozour !!

HAHAHAHAHA

Moneywomen17:
in this thread alone we already found out Benin attack some few kingdom in ekiti who later came back for revenge and took their land and women and also their ogiso is dumb and elkhadaren is a fraud let’s see what davidnaze will expose to us next

What can he say? Udo/ Aka/Ika that was defeated dynastically, linguistically and religiously can never look their conqueror in the face . They are the ones that brought this shame on themselves because, without the incoherent outburst of their Oba Erediuwa won't had led to the exposure of who was the ancestor of their kingly Oba lineage. Do you know these people thought Yoruba were gods so much that they don't bear names associated with the king. In fact, many names of their king does not have a meaning in Edo lexicon. Names like : Eweka I, Olua,Oreoghene, Ododua etc are Royal names but does not have meaning in Edo lexicon. Does this not show,we ,Yoruba thought them what they know? Before, the advent of Yoruba coming with Oba title and system,they never had successful family dynasty patterned after Yoruba Ébi system, which was the reason, the Oba knew his ancestor because Oral account was helpful and part eulogy of ones ancestor. Ogiso had no eulogy attached to him but Omo n'Oba n'Edo has . Again, title like: Oliha, Osuma, Osula,Osuan etc are palace titles without meaning in Edo lexicon. Where did the title emanated from? Answers, they have not. Yet these set of clowns will come online and try to destroy Yoruba impacts on Biniland and Edo as a whole. Far be from it because we will reset their malfunctioning knowledge aright so that they see Yorubas and show us a lot of respect because what we did in Ile Ubinu/Ibini .

Moneywomen17:
what culture is bigger than bini who worship Yoruba god name their children Yoruba name u probably have a Yoruba name too what’s ur Yoruba name is it dele? That’s what u called colonization leaving ur mark on ur subject. Yoruba mark on Benin can never be washed away even if u try to chai

Your entire culture is a derivative of Benin hegemony. Oduduwa your progenitor was only but a son in Edo. That was the genesis of Edo lordship over yoruba.

The little regard I had for Yoruba prior to coming here has been completely eroded. Your history is purr hogwash. Too many version. Which do we believe?

You come here to pretend meanwhile, we all know your entire race is in disarray. The order that exists among northern traditional rulers submitting to the authority of the Sultan is totally absent in your own case. I repeat, Yoruba has no history. Its all pure ccock and bull stories that you all have taken up the unfortunate burden of believing.

Olu317:
What can he say? Udo/ Aka/Ika that was defeated dynastically, linguistically and religiously can never look their conqueror in the face . They are the ones that brought this shame on themselves because, without the incoherent outburst of their Oba Erediuwa won't had led to the exposure of who was the ancestor of their kingly Oba lineage. Do you know these people thought Yoruba were gods so much that they don't bear names associated with the king. In fact, many names of their king does not have a meaning in Edo lexicon. Names like
Eweka I, Olua,Oreoghene, Ododua etc are Royal names but does not have meaning in Edo lexicon. Does this not show,we ,Yoruba thought them what they know? Before, the advent of Oba,they never had successful family dynasty patterned after Yoruba Ébi system. Again, such title like: Oliha, Osuma, Osula,Osuan etc are palace titles without meaning in Edo lexicon. Where did the title emanated from? Answers, they have not. Yet these set of clowns will come online and try to destroy Yoruba impacts on Biniland and Edo as a whole. Far be from it because we will reset their malfunctioning knowledge aright so that they see Yorubas and show us a lot of respect because what we did in Ile Ubinu/Ibini .

Oduduwa is meaningless in Yoruba. What you con artists did was to spin a likely meaning to it.Just as has been demonstrated over and over in Lagos which still has Edo landmarks till this day, as well as corruption in names originally Edo, thats how Yoruba also corrupted Izoduwa to become Oduduwa. No respect for Yoruba ever. That has been clearly established. You are slaves and it's a taboo everywhere in the world to accord respect to slaves.

That is why your kings behave like bastards because they undeservedly occupy thrones they shouldn't.

Moneywomen17:
e pain am well bow to ooni ur king owes his throne to him

Hahahaha...

Please quickly see the Alaafin for your proper education on this. Stop cannibalizing history.

The ooni is and would forever remain an impostor. He should tell the world where he comes from.

steveosaz:


Oduduwa is meaningless in Yoruba. What you con artists did was to spin a likely meaning to it.Just as has been demonstrated over and over in Lagos which still has Edo landmarks till this day, as well as corruption in names originally Edo, thats how Yoruba also corrupted Izoduwa to become Oduduwa. No respect for Yoruba ever. That has been clearly established. You are slaves and it's a taboo everywhere in the world to accord respect to slaves.

Odudua/Oduduwa is a corruption of Izoduwa? How is it really pronounced? Is Ododua or Izoduwa or Ekeherledan the coward? I thought odudua is a royal name in Bini/Edo lexicon? What iz the meaning and I will expose your ignorance to the world. Mind you,if you don't respond, I will still infer on the meaning of Odu ti o da uwa /iwa .Ignorance is a disease ,Mr. steveosaz

Olu317:
Odudua/Oduduwa is a corruption of Izoduwa? How is it really pronounced? Is Ododua or Izoduwa or Ekeherledan the coward? I thought odudua is a royal name in Bini/Edo lexicon? What iz the meaning and I will expose your ignorance to the world. Mind you,if you don't respond, I will still infer on the meaning of Odu ti o da uwa /iwa .Ignorance is a disease ,Mr. steveosaz

Keep that Your useless odu to da iwa crap. That's why I said you people keep spinning stories around objects and then call it history.

Coming up with odu to da iwa is a really dumb thing to do.

Exactly what we've been saying...

Sealeddeal:
Oba said that Some Yoruba are slaves and children of slaves.

Here are the children of slaves confessing...

Tinububola121:
mostly ijebus are slaves, and even ijebus in osun state are also slave to we core yorubas

Typical Yoruba history manufacturer in action... Hahahaha

fatiaforreal:
I don't know why people from minor kingdoms, close to extinction are celebrating the seeming crisis in yorubaland. Yoruba of today is a huge nation, spread across eight countries, on two different continents. It's no doubt the envy of many whose mighty kingdom, irrespective of glorious past has an insignificant radius of influence on a global scale.
Most people don't understand, that the evolution of tribes and races is a complex and continuous one. There are points of separation and fusion of peoples and languages beyond the trivialities being expressed by some people here. The Yoruba race has carved it's niche on the map of the modern world, bigger and better that what it was 100-1000 years ago, unlike some whose influence in the modern world has diminished to less than 70km from the palace.
Facing the truth as I know it, Olugbo was the king in Ife prior to Oduduwa. If you read certain version of Ijaw(Ujo, Ijo, Upon, Icon) history, Ujo was one of the founding fathers of Ijaw race. In the cause of their migrations, Ujo was with Oduduwa in Nupe, from where they matched on Ife, leading to the displacement of Olugbo. Though there was a prophecy about their migration to a new land blessed with natural resources.

This is what you yorubas are running away from. The shadow of a haunting past. So you decided to create your own history afresh....hahaha

He is not telling the full story. Ugbo people were a tribe of bandits who lived basically by rapine & theft. Apparently they were stronger that the Ifes, so they continuously preyed on them, until the Moremi incident.

Now both people were neighbours who spoke variants of a language we now know as Yoruba. They never had a common identity so the issues of dynastic supremacy or or succession dynastic succession did not exist at that time between them.

Oduduwa was exiled from Benin, stumbled upon the Ifes, became their king and established the dynasty that Olugbo is trying so hard to claim today.

steveosaz:


Your entire culture is a derivative of Benin hegemony. Oduduwa your progenitor was only but a son in Edo. That was the genesis of Edo lordship over yoruba.

The little regard I had for Yoruba prior to coming here has been completely eroded. Your history is purr hogwash. Too many version. Which do we believe?

You come here to pretend meanwhile, we all know your entire race is in disarray. The order that exists among northern traditional rulers submitting to the authority of the Sultan is totally absent in your own case. I repeat, Yoruba has no history. Its all pure ccock and bull stories that you all have taken up the unfortunate burden of believing.

e pain am oduduwa na Yoruba whose descendants rule u till today and dispose ur Ogiamien forever. Just accept ur Yoruba oba and say oduduwa a gbe wa stop lamenting here

steveosaz:


Oduduwa is meaningless in Yoruba. What you con artists did was to spin a likely meaning to it.Just as has been demonstrated over and over in Lagos which still has Edo landmarks till this day, as well as corruption in names originally Edo, thats how Yoruba also corrupted Izoduwa to become Oduduwa. No respect for Yoruba ever. That has been clearly established. You are slaves and it's a taboo everywhere in the world to accord respect to slaves.

shut up there tell us a Benin name that start with odu till today in Yoruba land we have oduduwa odutola and odufuwa. Pure Yoruba name but one dumbass called steveosaz is saying pure bullshit here.

Olu317:
Odudua/Oduduwa is a corruption of Izoduwa? How is it really pronounced? Is Ododua or Izoduwa or Ekeherledan the coward? I thought odudua is a royal name in Bini/Edo lexicon? What iz the meaning and I will expose your ignorance to the world. Mind you,if you don't respond, I will still infer on the meaning of Odu ti o da uwa /iwa .Ignorance is a disease ,Mr. steveosaz

yoruba bear odutola oduduwa odufuwa tell the Benin boys to tell us a Benin name that start in odu and end in wa in Benin land instead they will be lying about one izoduwa or imaoduwa or elkhaderan depending on which lie is convenient. One day their “lost prince” or by the way their dumb ogiso use for sacrifice is name is elkhadaren today tomorrow is imaoduwa and the next is izoduwa soon another name will come up again lol

steveosaz:
Here are the children of slaves confessing...

steveosaz:
Exactly what we've been saying...

look below who u are using as refrence ur fellow ibo brothers lol. Look at what u reduce yourself to chai

steveosaz:


Keep that Your useless odu to da iwa crap. That's why I said you people keep spinning stories around objects and then call it history.

Coming up with odu to da iwa is a really dumb thing to do.

You are a disgrace to yourself. No wonder, you reason like someone who is ignorant of the world. So, you can understand yorub ? Another form of conquest. In as much as Ododua has no meaning in Edo lexicon,then ,you are a conquered set of people etymologically by Yorubas. In Yoruba language, Odu is the corpus of IFA, and IFA is the account of stories that happened in ancient Yoruba world, connection to seeking solution to human problems and how Creation was made manifest etc. In Simple term; Odudua is the corpus that created a good human character. In fact, a well behave human being with outstanding personality. Little do you know that Yoruba don't belonged to your class. Odu IFA is today known and recognise as The Ifá Divination system which UNESCO conscripted in 2005 and to the list of the " Masterpieces of the Oral and Intangible Heritage of Humanity.
Yoruba Rocks.

Moneywomen17:
yoruba bear odutola oduduwa odufuwa tell the Benin boys to tell us a Benin name that start in odu and end in wa in Benin land instead they will be lying about one izoduwa or imaoduwa or elkhaderan depending on which lie is convenient. One day their “lost prince” or by the way their dumb ogiso use for sacrifice is name is elkhadaren today tomorrow is imaoduwa and the next is izoduwa soon another name will come up again lol

They worship our names so dearly like the gods of Greeks . Just imaging, making a name so sacred that, they think such name is for a spirit man