The lack of electricity and the frustrating noise of generators have taken over every Nigerian community,
people are tired of NEPA or PHCN(only God knows what the next name will be) invest in solar energy (every developed country being clever is doing it). this is the solution to our problems, no more ''nepa cut light''
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This is poor marketing strategy. No website, no specifications or requirements. No contact details. How do you want to convince people to patronize you.

marketing strategy, lol, very funny!
who say i be marketer? i jus dey simply advice people!!!

This is a good point.
I am surprised that not almost all the homes in Nigeria re on this already.
I am shocked that even the govt of Nigeria is not encouraging people to invest in stuff like that, despite the fact that they have nothing to offer the people.
They could be free of NEPA or whatever they are called

Fhemmmy:

This is a good point.
I am surprised that not almost all the homes in Nigeria re on this already.
I am shocked that even the govt of Nigeria is not encouraging people to invest in stuff like that, despite the fact that they have nothing to offer the people.
They could be free of NEPA or whatever they are called

The technology is not fully viable yet. It cost shit loads of money to have a solar panel powering your house solely. Then there is the issue of have to clean the panels as they attract dust and get smudge and dirt over them. This can reduce the amount of life intake etc.

Don't get me wrong, if you have the money, you have it fitted and maintained, but it beats the whole idea of cheap and free energy jare.

ElRazur:

The technology is not fully viable yet. It cost poo loads of money to have a solar panel powering your house solely. Then there is the issue of have to clean the panels as they attract dust and get smudge and dirt over them. This can reduce the amount of life intake etc.

When it comes to viability, Solar panels already are. And they make absolute sense for the Nigerian market. Considering we invest Trillions of Naira in to generator which is non-renewable. If all that money had been sourced into Solar and other renewable sources, up to 25% of the country would be fully powered by now(whether on or off grid).
It is a myth that Solar is more expensive, especially in Nigeria. The average home spends over $2000 a year on electricity 24/7 electricity generation using generator technology. If that money were invested in solar/wind, the same homes would not only recoup investments but not have to worry about the costs for years to come, up to 20 in some cases.
In most cases, switching from generator to solar panels means simply reusing the same modules used with generator, so some companies and residents already have the extra modules needed for the array, just that they are all currently connected to a polluting generator.
As for cleaning, you generally do not have to clean them for a couple of years. The panels are today designed to resist a lot of dirt, so as long as you do not have debris all over your roof that could get on the panels from time to time, you are good for a while.

ElRazur:

Don't get me wrong, if you have the money, you have it fitted and maintained, but it beats the whole idea of cheap and free energy jare.

It is the cheaper alternative today, when you are speaking of the Nigerian market.

Kobo

You need a big panel generating plenty wattage to power your house

There is one used in spain, and it have the ability to track the sunlight, and clean itself. Not everyone can afford stuff like that. Yes, it is good for naija, but it is expensive to implement it as it stand to power your whole house for you daily electricity need.


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I'm in bed and am half here and half in dream land lol. but Im sure I make sense above lol.

1. How is this going to work?

2. What happens at night? Cloudy and rainy days? How many ppl can afford solar battery charger?

3. How are they going to gather the daylight energy to use at night?

4. Disadvantageous in inner cities, requires a lot of area for installation.

5. Think about the location. . . .obstructions from surrounding buildings.

6. How many ppl can afford this? ----> We need something that atleast 80% of the pop.with an income  can afford

7. toxicity from the solar batteries?

Anywaz, these are my weak points. If we are going to start using solar energy, we need to think about the disadvantages too. And question is will NIGERIA maintain their reliability? MAINTENANCE is one of Nigeria's issues.

ElRazur:

Kobo
You need a big panel generating plenty wattage to power your house
There is one used in spain, and it have the ability to track the sunlight, and clean itself. Not everyone can afford stuff like that. Yes, it is good for naija, but it is expensive to implement it as it stand to power your whole house for you daily electricity need.
I'm in bed and am half here and half in dream land lol. but Im sure I make sense above lol.

uumm . . .  I will say this, rather than rushing out to get the most expensive, it makes sense to just settle first with what generates enough for you and your household. An investment of about $5000 over a period, will give you enough electricity to power your basic appliances, refrigerator and fans. Since Panels come modular, you can add more and you go but really, if you purchase low-wattage appliances instead you can offset some of that cost.

The cleaning is not really a big issue. Once installed, it is low maintainance and in most cases, cleaning only needs to happen every other year or two. You can wash with a water from a power hose and you are done.

FLG

I know that Nigeria have very good Sunlight intensity. My proof? I get dark when I go Lagos after a week. So Solar panel will get enough sunlight, but am not sure it will get enough to power a fridge, tv and air condition lol. You will need very large solar panels to do this. This means money which many cannot afford in one go.

FLG

Toxicity to battery is irrelevant. That is like saying GM meat is bad for the population. Let the population eat first lol.


Kobo

5k dolapos? Omo that na big money for the average naijans.


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Solar panels use battery?

Maybe somewhere to store the electricity, but not sure it uses battery. Any expert in the house?

FL Gators:

1. How is this going to work?

All you do is purchase, install and enjoy!

FL Gators:

2. What happens at night? Cloudy and rainy days? How many ppl can afford solar battery charger?

Purchasing battery backups is where you get the most of your panels. What most people do not know is that even on cloudy days, the sun is still behind the clouds and shinning. Since the most popular are PVC panels, you still get enough on most rainy days.
Sure, the battery back ups are expensive but they are worth the investment considering with an on-grid connection, the batteries are also charged when electricity is back on from PHCN, or whatever source.

FL Gators:

3. How are they going to gather the daylight energy to use at night?

Battery . . . also you can opt for a Solar panel/wind turbine combination. Solar in the day, wind day and night!

FL Gators:

4. Disadvantageous in inner cities, requires a lot of area for installation.

If you have a big enough roof, you are fine. I live in the city and many of the houses in the area already have solar panels installed on the roofs, even downtown.

FL Gators:

5. Think about the location. . . .obstructions from surrounding buildings.

Sure, that could be a problem but you consider all that before you decide where you want to install. Keep in mind that you have the all Wind option as well.

FL Gators:

6. How many ppl can afford this? ----> We need something that atleast 80% of the pop.with an income  can afford

I don't think this is the time to call for all to get in on this. This is simply on individual basis. Rather than purchase a generator, you can go for this for yourself instead. It does not have to be whole village going for it.

FL Gators:

7. toxicity from the solar batteries?

Much in the same way you cater to that from your generator, once you have a secure aerated area you can safely store your batteries there.

ElRazur:

FLG

I know that Nigeria have very good Sunlight intensity. My proof? I get dark when I go Lagos after a week. So Solar panel will get enough sunlight, but am not sure it will get enough to power a fridge, tv and air condition lol. You will need very large solar panels to do this. This means money which many cannot afford in one go.

ElRazur:

FLG

Toxicity to battery is irrelevant. That is like saying GM meat is bad for the population. Let the population eat first lol.

Got you. . . .

As to the toxicity, I know, am just saying. There hasnt been must study on the outcome yet how toxic it canbe. Hope Nigeria does not become an experiment sha. Na to sleep one day and wake up with 4 arms lol jk.

@El
Doesn't it use battery to store photons to use during the night?

FLG

Me I can't think right now. I am high on Jaffa cakes.

Not sure how the whole thing works fully though.

@kobo
I give you a thumb up for that expl.

So I guess it all boils down to the cost and maintenance of it?

ElRazur:

FLG

Me I can't think right now. I am high on Jaffa cakes.

Not sure how the whole thing works fully though.

Alright. Hope your Jaffa cakes is not what am thinking it is rightnow

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I am sure they are not illegal.

LOL Alright. I was worried for a minute dia.

ElRazur:

Kobo
5k dolapos? Omo that na big money for the average naijans.

If you had told me this was the case 5 years ago, I would say no way. But considering people are busy purchasing plots of land here, big screen tvs, spending so much on generators, I say many can afford it and should go for it for the sake of their children.

For anyone abroad with a house in Naija or family living in Naija, I expect this should be their christmas present to themselves at least so that next time you go home, you have light 24/7 and are not in panic most of the time.

ElRazur:

Solar panels use battery?
Maybe somewhere to store the electricity, but not sure it uses battery. Any expert in the house?

Battery is for storage. Somehow it is similar to what people already use down in Nigeria(inverters) that also store energy.

FL Gators:

@kobo
I give you a thumb up for that expl.
So I guess it all boils down to the cost and maintenance of it?

That is where the beauty of PVC tech comes in. You do not have to spend much on maintenance. if all works fine, you may never need to, apart from cleaning and maybe installing extra modules, to do maintenance on it.

Kobojunkie:

If you had told me this was the case 5 years ago, I would say no way. But considering people are busy purchasing plots of land here, big screen tvs, spending so much on generators, I say many can afford it and should go for it for the sake of their children.

For anyone abroad with a house in Naija or family living in Naija, I expect this should be their christmas present to themselves at least so that next time you go home, you have light 24/7 and are not in panic most of the time.Battery is for storage. Somehow it is similar to what people already use down in Nigeria(inverters) that also store energy.

But kobo, thatz [b]not [/b]an average Nigerian.

I hate to make this comparison, but in USA, even a poor man can afford electricity.

This is like jumping from hot oil to to fire [abi bawo ni won se n so?]. Let's be real, a lot of Nigerians dont pay for the electricity they use. Now installing the solar energy will cost a lot of money to install, which a lot of us cannot afford.

Kobo

Yeah makes sense. Was thinking along battery for operation of the panels itself. Totally forgot about storage. Thanks.

FL Gators:

But kobo, thatz [b]not [/b]an average Nigerian.
I hate to make this comparison, but in USA, even a poor man can afford electricity.
This is like jumping from hot oil to to fire [abi bawo ni won se n so?]. Let's be real, a lot of Nigerians dont pay for the electricity they use. Now installing the solar energy will cost a lot of money to install, which a lot of us cannot afford.

I agree that the average Nigerian is probably not able to cough up $5000 at once but I bet you if they wanted to, many can get access to that amount over a period of time.
Considering cost, electricity cost here is definitely not to be compared with what is obtained in the UK or even in Nigeria. It is dirt cheap here in America, but it will not get to this point in Nigeria anytime soon. But considering how much many already pay for it in Nigeria, it is already expensive now so why not get an alternative that will save you so much money down the road.

Why do I see the crime rate going up?

That waz a joke

FL Gators:

Why do I see the crime rate going up?

That waz a joke

legit concern!

Kobojunkie:

I agree that the average Nigerian is probably not able to cough up $5000 at once but I bet you if they wanted to, many can get access to that amount over a period of time.
Considering cost, electricity cost here is definitely not to be compared with what is obtained in the UK or even in Nigeria. It is dirt cheap here in America, but it will not get to this point in Nigeria anytime soon. But considering how much many already pay for it in Nigeria, it is already expensive now so[b] why not get an alternative that will save you so much money down the road.[/b]

How exactly is that going to happen with S.E?

s.e?

Solar Energy or Solar Panels

Well, with solar, after your initial investment,you are done unless you need to add more panels, or relocate or maybe something weird goes wrong. So over a period of 10 to 25 years, you likely won't need to bring out more money from your pocket for the sake of the panels. Using the $5000 package example, assuming you spend an average of $1000 a year on generator, once you invest that much, you can get 24/7 supply for your planned appliances, for 10 to 25 years. That is likely to save you not less than $10,000 in the long run

About security, that should also be put in consideration when planning where to install the panels and the battery backup, if you want that too. I would say roof should be find in most areas, and if possible, you can attach an alarm system to go off if someone disconnects any of the modules.

Kobo, we need to talk abt you and the "modify" button

Kobojunkie:

Well, with solar, after your initial investment,you are done unless you need to add more panels, or relocate or maybe something weird goes wrong. So over a period of 10 to 25 years, you likely won't need to bring out more money from your pocket for the sake of the panels. Using the $5000 package example, assuming you spend an average of $1000 a year on generator, once you invest that much, you can get 24/7 supply for your planned appliances, for 10 to 25 years. That is likely to save you not less than $10,000 in the long run

About security, that should also be put in consideration when planning where to install the panels and the battery backup, if you want that too. I would say roof should be find in most areas, and if possible, you can attach an alarm system to go off if someone disconnects any of the modules.

This might be straying off topic, but you're making it sound too easy. This has been a huge debate [not much into it, not my background major], and there must be some other reasons why developed countries arent using solar energy [maybe abt 10% of USA].

hehehe @ ppl trynna steal a solar panel. . . lol, I dont doubt my Nigerian ppl

FL Gators:

Kobo, we need to talk abt you and the "modify" button

lol

FL Gators:

This might be straying off topic, but you're making it sound too easy. This has been a huge debate [not much into it, not my background major], and there must be some other reasons why developed countries arent using solar energy [maybe abt 10% of USA].

hehehe @ ppl trynna steal a solar panel. . . lol, I dont doubt my Nigerian ppl

See the problem is, it is easy, just that people are not informed enough on this to understand how better it is for them in the long run than waiting endlessly for salvation from nowhere. More importantly the consequence of the lack of electricity to many lives is more expensive than this.

The reason many in the developed world, especially places like america, debate the cost is because for one most places in America do not get enough sunlight a year to justify the cost compared to cost of grid energy. However the PVC heating systems are now a big deal to save on cost of heating water throughout the year, even in the winter.


On the other hand, various places in Nigeria get next to maximum sun light exposure every year. Couple that with the cost of energy itself, which is currently high(put together cost of running generators 24/7, even factoring in occasional electricity from the grid, and the effects of this on security as a whole), and solar begins to make absolute sense to anyone who needs electricity now and for the next 10 to 20 years in Nigeria.

For decades, people, and companies in places like Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa have been using both solar and wind to provide for themselves off grid electricity supply. There are actually whole communities in south Africa that run completely . , stores, houses, radio stations, etc on solar energy and wind. If they can do that in South Africa, I am sure Nigeria can get the clue.

Kobojunkie:

lol

See the problem is, it is easy, just that people are not informed enough on this to understand how better it is for them in the long run than waiting endlessly for salvation from nowhere. More importantly the consequence of the lack of electricity to many lives is more expensive than this.

The reason many in the developed world, especially places like america, debate the cost is because for one most places in America do not get enough sunlight a year to justify the cost compared to cost of grid energy. However the PVC heating systems are now a big deal to save on cost of heating water throughout the year, even in the winter.


On the other hand, various places in Nigeria get next to maximum sun light exposure every year. Couple that with the cost of energy itself, which is currently high(put together cost of running generators 24/7, even factoring in occasional electricity from the grid, and the effects of this on security as a whole), and solar begins to make absolute sense to anyone who needs electricity now and for the next 10 to 20 years in Nigeria.

For decades, people, and companies in places like Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa have been using both solar and wind to provide for themselves off grid electricity supply. There are actually whole communities in south Africa that run completely . , stores, houses, radio stations, etc on solar energy and wind. If they can do that in South Africa, I am sure Nigeria can get the clue.

Very well put. . . . I guess.

It is all well and good talking about solar enerygy but no one talks about linking it to the national grid.

All comments made so far refer to setting up a personal unit at home but none is saying anything about the likes of PHCN generating income.