benalvino3:


laugh wan kill me.
Blacks complain white people are putting them down, systemic racism here and there, then turn around and treat the white man better than they with treat their brother and then blame the white man for it

Enugurangers:

This is a different topic entirely. Stay on the topic please.

Ps: There are more white people in the USA, and If I dig into rates, I might even start finding loopholes in your claim on this different topic.

0.32 x population of whites in the USA.
0.24 x population of blacks in the USA.

benalvino3:


laugh wan kill me.
Blacks complain white people are putting them down, systemic racism here and there, then turn around and treat the white man better than they with treat their brother and then blame the white man for it

basilico:


Of course blacks are only 15% at most but commit more crimes per capita.
Explanation. slavery folk tales passed on to them by their kith and kin. AA dont like blacks from Africa so we could call them racist too.
whites dont like non whites . we call them racists too.

How about the Arabs? Are they oppressed?

IjeBos:


Let's be clear this discussion is about the police involved killing of a black man. You brought up the issue of black on black violence as a deflection from that topic.

IjeBos:

The fact that you think the implicit bias shown by black doctors is not related to why black cops would brutally beat a black man shows your lack of depth of this issue. I'll post a clip of a peer reviewed study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/

IjeBos:

Lastly, let me put this in a more as$holy perspective. I live in an affluent neighborhood 15 minutes from the downtown in my city. 9/10 of my neighbors are white. We don't have significant issues of violence, crime etc. What issue effects me more? Being pulled over/beat up driving my "nice" car or some other African Americans killing themselves in the inner city? That's the asshole way of really thinking about it. Simply, why should my ability to protest to the government, issues that most affect my liberties depend on someone else and what they do? And what other community has to argue for their whole community for their rights? The fact you keep making the argument "why aren't we talking about other black on black violence" is in fact an implicit bias you've been trained to believe.

benalvino3:

the topic was Police brutality and how CNN tries to deflect it to race war even though everyone in the situation was black.

why stop at implicit bias? why not go on further and say climate change? you use the word up and down and don't understand how it will affect blacks. because of implicit bias, you feel white people are holding you down, blacks are exposed to that narrative day in and day out. with all the anti-white information filled in them, one has to wonder how these black cops still went ahead to kill their brother. Ijebos says it's not their fault and uses implicitly biased to wash their sins. it's like someone killing 5 people and saying it's the devil that makes him do it. we know what the bible says, you shall pay for your sins... it says your sins, not the devil's sins. if you like the devil makes you do it... the fact that you didn't resist the devil is your fault.

you don't want to stand against blacks killing blacks. you want to excuse it. this is the problem with you folks.

IjeBos:


Let's be clear this discussion is about the police involved killing of a black man. You brought up the issue of black on black violence as a deflection from that topic.

The fact that you think the implicit bias shown by black doctors is not related to why black cops would brutally beat a black man shows your lack of depth of this issue. I'll post a clip of a peer reviewed study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/

Lastly, let me put this in a more as$holy perspective. I live in an affluent neighborhood 15 minutes from the downtown in my city. 9/10 of my neighbors are white. We don't have significant issues of violence, crime etc. What issue effects me more? Being pulled over/beat up driving my "nice" car or some other African Americans killing themselves in the inner city? That's the asshole way of really thinking about it. Simply, why should my ability to protest to the government, issues that most affect my liberties depend on someone else and what they do? And what other community has to argue for their whole community for their rights? The fact you keep making the argument "why aren't we talking about other black on black violence" is in fact an implicit bias you've been trained to believe.

IjeBos:


1.) The significant news yesterday was the video drop of the Police beating. The fact that you think whatever CNN did or didn't do is the topic is a reflection on you and the propaganda bubble you line in.

Enugurangers:

I don't know what's funny though. The two events are independent. i.e. Racism against minorities can exists on it's own, and Colonial mentality can also exists on its own.

benalvino3:


maybe it has to do with class than colonialism.
Dress up a black man from the gutter and put in a tuxedo and in a Lamborghini and send him to a place where you have both white and black workers.

then do the reverse on a white man who lives in a mansion but is not known, dresses him in a rag and sends him to the same location, and tells me who they will show more respect to.
most of the issues we have in this world today are based on class rather than racism. that's not to say racism is not a problem, I am saying we should not blame everything on racism.

IjeBos:


1.) The significant news yesterday was the video drop of the Police beating. The fact that you think whatever CNN did or didn't do is the topic is a reflection on you and the propaganda bubble you line in.

2.) Comparing Implicit bias to climate change.. lol. Well done proving you really don't have a clue what you are talking about. The fact you don't understand why I brought up Nigeria, it's independence and the fact 60+ years later it still have issues, means you really haven't thought at all about why African Americans could still be struggling to reach the same economics levels Caucasians have. You're drifting in a shallow pool of right wing propaganda.

3.) Good job perpetuating the white mythology that African Americans don't deserve equal justice unless they reach some goal White American has set. You should get paid for this level of gaslighting.

4.) Here is another study for you.
Physicians and Implicit Bias: How Doctors May Unwittingly Perpetuate Health Care Disparities
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3797360/

Enugurangers:

No need to go that far. There are plenty real life experiment. Blacks being denied entry to some clubs by the bouncers, cops stopping a black person frequently e.t.c

As per you scenario, I won't be suprised that in a place like Nigeria, people will still respect the white guy more as they would think he is just fooling around. Colonial mentality in Nigeria is horrible and severe. So many that we even take care of Indians and chinese better than our fellow blacks.

In my case, I am not blaming it on racism. I think that's a wrong word choice. For this case, I believe it's more of a colonial mentality problem.

Enugurangers:
It was an interesting read anyway. Funny how I thought the same way as the opinion writer. He even made mention that the event could have been different if the victim was white.

The headline was just misinterpreted. Always good to read beyond the headline.

Contd.

benalvino3:


black cops stopping black guys = a white racism problem.
A black bouncer stopping a black man = a white racism problem.

are you people gonna be victims forever?

even in Nigeria, if you are driving Hilux no police will stop you or road safety because they feel you are with a company. if you are driving Camry, they will stop you thinking you are transporting illegal PMS or diesel. if you are driving other cars, depending on how luxurious the car is, you will not be stopped.

SlyfoxxMadness:


They live to be perpetual victims. It’s actually considered a virtue to be some kind of victim in the democrat party. I’ve just been reading posts here and laughing since afternoon. The amount of mental gymnastics being performed by these guys to somehow blame black on black police brutality on the white man is truly hilarious. These people are something else.

SlyfoxxMadness:


They live to be perpetual victims. It’s actually considered a virtue to be some kind of victim in the democrat party. I’ve just been reading posts here and laughing since afternoon. The amount of mental gymnastics being performed by these guys to somehow blame black on black police brutality on the white man is truly hilarious. These people are something else.

basilico:


M position is that the left wants a breakdown of the society, The left wants blacks to abort like its a Family Planning plan, bring up kids in a single family without a father figure. Blame schooling if any for indiscipline such that a sizeable proportion end up on the wrong side of the law while praising tupac like gangsterism.

benalvino3:


black cops stopping black guys = a white racism problem.
A black bouncer stopping a black man = a white racism problem.

are you people gonna be victims forever?

even in Nigeria, if you are driving Hilux no police will stop you or road safety because they feel you are with a company. if you are driving Camry, they will stop you thinking you are transporting illegal PMS or diesel. if you are driving other cars, depending on how luxurious the car is, you will not be stopped.

IjeBos:


You should really not speak about things you have 0 experience with. Yes, a black bouncer stopping a black persom from entering a high end place in a city like Boston is generally fueled by implicit bias by white racism.

Also, you are wrong about luxury cars in Nigeria. Police will pull you over depending on how much money they think they can get from you. So a luxury car = a perception of getting more money.

Speaking from experience on both. You seem to speak about a lot of things you have 0 experience with.

basilico:


Could we say that the left is intent on dividing people by race, sexs, height weight etc. What we are seeing in this case is a case of the left looking for every chance to be victims and blaming others.
Satirical article from Babylon Bee..

UKRAINE — Mere hours after deploying 31 brand new U.S. M1 Abrams tanks, sources are now reporting all 31 of them have been destroyed by the Russians. Experts are attributing this to the fact that each of the 31 tanks featured rainbow camouflage that was easily visible to the enemy Russians "These tanks are state of the art, boasting the latest and greatest in firepower, mobility, and of course LGBTQ-affirming camouflage," said Biden's Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin. "The fact the Russians would dare fire upon our rainbow-printed tanks shows how hateful, bigoted and on the wrong side of history these Russians truly are..

Enugurangers:

I think you are easily deceived. That's why you fall to all sort of fake news and conspiracy. The tanks are yet to be delivered.

benalvino3:


Lol, for someone who always talk "you have not been to the US so you don't know or can't have an opinion" is here lecturing me about Nigeria.

By your logic or critical thinking skills, you obtained from Harvard University, you just schooled me with those 9 certificates you obtained from the faculty of professional victim.

by your logic, Police stop and harass rich people like dangote in hoping to get 1m and above from people like him.
Police do not fear what kind of connection that person may have or who may be in that very luxurious car, they just stop it and harass the occupant even when they know most of those cars sometimes carry an armed police officer in the front and most of the time the cars are tinted.

you are hilarious though.

basilico:

IjeBos:


I'm speaking of my experience driving expensive cars in Nigeria. I assumed that was the topic you were talking about. From which experience driving expensive cars are you speaking from?

Yes, I would have assumed what you thought, but I've had a couple of experiences that taught me otherwise. The only time I think you won't get stopped is when in a convoy of expensive cars w/ a Helix in front.
I've been pulled over in the East in my Dad's Mercedes SUV by road safety, while an overloaded bus, with mis-matched tires spewing black smoke was in front of me and didn't get stopped. By you theory who should have road safety pulled over?
And as you've mentioned I've been in that dangerous situation (out of movie) where someone attempted to stop me at a checkpoint while I had a mopo/soldier in the passenger seat in a tinted car. They quickly let us pass as the driver slowed down and the mopo opened the window and pulled up his gun.
I've been pulled over a couple of times while driving an expensive car in Lagos. I've been pulled over with my girl while she drove her expensive car in Lagos. I drove to the east one year from Lagos and we took my cousin's Sienna instead of a nicer car. And what was funny, though we got pulled over some (Christmas), the guy in front of us, was driving a Brand New red Mercedes GLE. And every checkpoint he would stop, roll down his window, drop cash and drive off. Lol. Because he knew it was more efficient than being forced to stop, arguing your case and saving 1or 2k. We kept laughing everything we saw him do that.
The difference from my experience is that they are somewhat more careful pulling over nicer cars. Like I can be somewhat more abusive with them esp. given my accent, because they aren't sure who I am.

basilico:

benalvino3:


how they cling to Implicit bias and colonialism makes me laugh.
they should have extended it to climate change or a comet from outer space.
anytime they want to justify a lie and control people they say climate change.
any time NASA does not understand something in space they say it is because of a comet.

benalvino3:


Lol, for someone who always talk "you have not been to the US so you don't know or can't have an opinion" is here lecturing me about Nigeria.

By your logic or critical thinking skills, you obtained from Harvard University, you just schooled me with those 9 certificates you obtained from the faculty of professional victim.

by your logic, Police stop and harass rich people like dangote in hoping to get 1m and above from people like him.
Police do not fear what kind of connection that person may have or who may be in that very luxurious car, they just stop it and harass the occupant even when they know most of those cars sometimes carry an armed police officer in the front and most of the time the cars are tinted.

you are hilarious though.