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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:14pm On Sep 11, 2020
Zuorom:

Neither Fox news not CNN confirmed that news. Since you don't understand simple english, let me help you. For them to confirm it means them coming to say that they themselves have verified the news as true. This is not what happened, CNN was reporting that a journalist from the Atlantic reported something citing anonymous sources, while fox was reporting that one of their journalists said that the Atlantic story was confirmed to her by other anonymous sources. Fox News even took pains during their broadcast to say they haven't verified what the anonymous sources were saying so they can disassociate themselves from any legal trouble that might come up from this.
Sigh.
Argue with france24.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ribbit: 2:16pm On Sep 11, 2020
salford1:

Epistle again but no sense found in your post. grin

You keep mentioning IQ. It seems like a obsession.
My low IQ scores pays me lots of $$$$$.
I challenge you to post your bank account balance Mr professional Wikipedia editor and let's see what your own IQ pays you. Do not forget to add your hand written Monika to the balance as proof grin

ouch grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:16pm On Sep 11, 2020
ribbit:
ouch grin
Lmao grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 2:18pm On Sep 11, 2020
salford1:
TORONTO -- A leading American historian best known for successfully predicting every U.S. election for more than three decades says newly published revelations that U.S. President Donald Trump knew COVID-19 was deadly in the early days of the pandemic but publicly downplayed the virus will go down in history as "damning."

“This is the greatest dereliction of duty in the history of the U.S. presidency,” Allan Lichtman, a professor of history at American University for nearly 50 years, told CTV News Channel on Thursday.

Veteran journalist Bob Woodward, whose reporting on Watergate ended Richard Nixon’s presidency, revealed that his upcoming book “Rage” includes an interview with Trump in which the president is quoted saying the coronavirus was highly contagious, airborne and "deadly stuff,” despite publicly dismissing it at the time as no worse than the flu.

Trump made the comments in a February interview with Woodward, weeks before the World Health Organization declared a pandemic. As the death toll climbed, Trump publicly suggested the virus was "going to disappear” and occasionally mused that car crashes were deadlier, but the U.S. hadn’t banned driving.

"I wanted to always play it down," Trump told Woodward in a subsequent interview in March. "I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic.”

The U.S. leads the world in overall cases, at more than 6.3 million, and total deaths, with more than 191,000 people dead.

Woodward spoke with Trump 18 times for the book. On at least one occasion, Woodward said Trump was the one who picked up the phone and called him to “unburden himself” about the virus.

Why Trump felt comfortable speaking so candidly with Woodward, one of the most influential journalists in American politics, has everything to do with his “pathological ego” Lichtman said.

“Donald Trump thinks he’s smarter than everyone, he thinks he’s more cunning than everyone,”

As for Trump’s defence that he didn’t share how deadly the virus was because he didn’t want people to panic, Lichtman said it simply doesn’t pass the sniff test.

“What is Trump’s whole campaign based on? Causing panic. ‘Elect Joe Biden and your streets are going to burn. The criminals will be attacking your houses. The suburbs will be abolished.’ This is a guy who’s worried about causing panic? Come on. How could you possibly believe that?”


Questions have been raised about why Woodward chose not to reveal details of the interviews until September, less than two months before the Nov. 3 election. Woodward has defended the decision, saying he needed time to make sure that Trump’s comments were accurate.

It wasn’t until May that Woodward said he believed Trump’s comments were based on accurate information.

“If I had done the story at that time about what he knew in February, that's not telling us anything we didn't know," Woodward told the Associated Press on Thursday.

Trump joined the online pile-on of Woodward, questioning why he sat on the information for months.

“If he thought they were so bad or dangerous, why didn’t he immediately report them in an effort to save lives? Didn’t he have an obligation to do so? No, because he knew they were good and proper answers. Calm, no panic!” Trump tweeted.

Lichtman said he also has lingering questions about the timing of the book. He compared the situation to when Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton declined to discuss Trump's actions towards Ukraine during impeachment hearings, but in June published new details in his memoir "The Room Where It Happened.”

“I understand he felt he needed to totally verify and put it into context, but this reminds me a bit of John Bolton who had vitally important information and held it until he published his book. I do think there are some ethical conundrums to be confronted there,” he said.

Others have raised similar concerns, such as Esquire's Charles P. Pierce.

"Nearly 200,000 Americans have died because neither Donald Trump nor Bob Woodward wanted to risk anything substantial to keep the country informed,” Pierce said.

Lichtman is best known for his book “The Keys to the White House,” which lays out a series of 13 true or false questions that have helped him predict the winner of every U.S. election since Ronald Reagan’s win in 1984. He successfully predicted that Trump would win in 2016, but this year he anticipates Biden will take the White House.
Of course.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:18pm On Sep 11, 2020
Treasury Department says Ukrainian linked to Rudy Giuliani is 'Russian agent'

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/treasury-department-ukrainian-linked-rudy-giuliani-russian-agent/story?id=72942083&cid=clicksource_4380645_1_heads_hero_live_headlines_hed

The man the Treasury Department called "an active Russian agent for over a decade," met with President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.

Andrii Derkach, a member of the Ukrainian Parliament, and three other Russian-linked individuals were designated, Thursday, by Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control, for attempting to influence the U.S. electoral process.

"Andrii Derkach and other Russian agents employ manipulation and deceit to attempt to influence elections in the United States and elsewhere around the world," Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a statement.

Last November, Derkach appeared with Giuliani as part of a One America News (OAN) "investigation" that aired in December, the same week the House of Judiciary Committee approved articles of impeachment against the president.

Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani with 'Russian Agent' -----is that not part of Russia collusion?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Futuragetty: 2:19pm On Sep 11, 2020
"The Trump administration has secretly siphoned nearly $4 million away from a program that tracks and treats FDNY firefighters and medics suffering from 9/11 related illnesses, the Daily News has learned.

The Treasury Department mysteriously started withholding parts of payments — nearly four years ago — meant to cover medical services for firefighters, emergency medical technicians and paramedics treated by the FDNY World Trade Center Health Program, documents obtained by The News reveal."

The payments were authorized and made by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, which oversees the program. But instead of sending the funds to the city, the Treasury started keeping some of the money.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:20pm On Sep 11, 2020
feedthenation:
Treasury Department says Ukrainian linked to Rudy Giuliani is 'Russian agent'

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/treasury-department-ukrainian-linked-rudy-giuliani-russian-agent/story?id=72942083&cid=clicksource_4380645_1_heads_hero_live_headlines_hed

The man the Treasury Department called "an active Russian agent for over a decade," met with President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.

Andrii Derkach, a member of the Ukrainian Parliament, and three other Russian-linked individuals were designated, Thursday, by Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control, for attempting to influence the U.S. electoral process.

"Andrii Derkach and other Russian agents employ manipulation and deceit to attempt to influence elections in the United States and elsewhere around the world," Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a statement.

Last November, Derkach appeared with Giuliani as part of a One America News (OAN) "investigation" that aired in December, the same week the House of Judiciary Committee approved articles of impeachment against the president.

Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani with 'Russian Agent' -----is that not part of Russia collusion?
It's not even suprising anymore to be honest.
Trump is Russia's greatest asset. Putin destroying the US from within without a single shot fired. Trump makes Putin look like a genius.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:22pm On Sep 11, 2020
One of the most conservative media houses in Canada (Nat. Post) just had to make fun of Trump and his lies.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 2:23pm On Sep 11, 2020
salford1:

Epistle again but no sense found in your post. grin

You keep mentioning IQ. It seems like a obsession.
My low IQ scores pays me lots of $$$$$.
I challenge you to post your bank account balance Mr professional Wikipedia editor and let's see what your own IQ pays you. Do not forget to add your hand written Monika to the balance as proof grin


You know your ilk with make-believe alter egos of affluence I've busted on Nairaland over the years? Think of the most popular one in the most visited sections on Nairaland over the years who were exposed and disgraced? They all started out thinking they could duel against me, their lord.
Facts:
-You, Salford1, are dûmb. It shows even in your replies as you've never rationally argued any point (for or against) at length but rely on spamming this thread with article quotes to make your infantile scribblings longer.

-You have no sort-after commercializable skillset so there's no way you can earn money legally or dignifiable way as you lack the intelligence to learn high-end skills.

-You are a thief - a petty criminal who lurks in the shadows and alleyways, stripping law-abiding innocent citizens of their day's earnings.

-You are a jailbird who knows the walls of a prison cell better than a library.

-You are a drug addict and a burden on the community and state because they have to be made to bear the brunt of your ill-informed decisions.

-No matter how many times you get rescued, you belong to the gutters and are headed for doom.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:24pm On Sep 11, 2020
DissTroy:


[s]You know your ilk with make-believe alter egos of affluence I've busted on Nairaland over the years? Think of the most popular one in the most visited sections on Nairaland over the years who were exposed and disgraced? They all started out thinking they could duel against me, their lord.
Facts:
-You, Salford1, are dûmb. It shows even in your replies as you've never rationally argued any point (for or against) at length but rely on spamming this thread with article quotes to make your infantile scribblings longer.

-You have no commercializable skillset so there's no way you can earn money legally as you lack intelligence to learn high-end skills.

-You are a thief - a petty criminal who lurks in the shadows and alleyways, stripping law-abiding innocent citizens of their day's earnings.

-You are a jailbird who knows the walls of a prison cell more better than a library.

-You are a drug addict and a burden on the community and state because they have to be made to bear the brunt of your ill-informed decisions.

-No matter how many times you get rescue, you belong to the gutters and are headed for doom.[/s]
LMAO grin
I guessed as much. Mr professional Wikipedia editor chickened out.
Broke ass nonentity.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 2:35pm On Sep 11, 2020
salford1:

Sigh.
Argue with france24.
Is france24 God? Is it not a human being like you writing for france24? Why should I suspend the use of my common sense because someone wrote something in france24? Do you see why you guys are so easily brainwashed by the fake news media? You take the word of journalists as the voice of God even when all evidence is pointing to the opposite direction.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 2:38pm On Sep 11, 2020
Sunshinegold44:
Mark my words... Donald J. Trump is a winner for USA president
Trump is unstoppable, his opponents are just wasting their time

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:43pm On Sep 11, 2020
Zuorom:

Is france24 God? Is it not a human being like you writing for france24? Why should I suspend the use of my common sense because someone wrote something in france24? Do you see why you guys are so easily brainwashed by the fake news media? You take the word of journalists as the voice of God even when all evidence is pointing to the opposite direction.
Factual reporting is high. That is good enough for me smiley

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 2:49pm On Sep 11, 2020
salford1:

Factual reporting is high. That is good enough for me smiley
Lol, isn't it another human being like you that did that analysis? Since you are sure that it has been confirmed, can you mention the name of the person that heard Trump say it?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:53pm On Sep 11, 2020
salford1:

It's not even suprising anymore to be honest.
Trump is Russia's greatest asset. Putin destroying the US from within without a single shot fired. Trump makes Putin look like a genius.

Trump was impeached because of Hunter Biden's board appointment in Ukraine, guess what, his previous Energy Sec Rick Perry buddy is being appointed to Ukraine gas company

Ukraine gas company to add Rick Perry pick to board

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/10/ukraine-gas-company-to-add-rick-perry-pick-to-board-412261

The Ukraine state-owned natural gas company caught up in President Donald Trump’s impeachment investigation has appointed a U.S. businessman pushed by former Energy Secretary Rick Perry to its board, two people with direct knowledge of the decision told POLITICO on Thursday.

Houston-based oil and gas executive Robert Bensh is set join the board of Naftogaz, pending final paperwork, the two people said, adding that his appointment has drawn opposition from some other board members. They said the move has led at least one of them, Amos Hochstein, to prepare to resign.

The Ukraine government informed Naftogaz last week that it had approved Bensh, two people with knowledge said.

The appointment adds to questions about Perry’s role in Ukrainian energy politics and whether the former Texas governor had pressured the government there to buy U.S. energy supplies to win favor with the Trump administration. Perry, as first reported by POLITICO, had originally pushed Naftogaz to accept Bensh and another Perry associate, Texas oil and gas executive with ties to Ukraine, Michael Bleyzer, onto its board.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:54pm On Sep 11, 2020
Zuorom:

Lol, isn't it another human being like you that did that analysis? Since you are sure that it has been confirmed, can you mention the name of the person that heard Trump say it?
I do not have a name. I am not a journalist. I let the professionals do their job.

I'm addition, a reason was given for staying anonymous based on the antics of Trump and his cultists. I do not blame the person/sources for that. Security and safety comes first.

Remember that Trump also gave an anonymous source for Obama's birthier stuff back then.
(What's good for the goose is good for the gander).

Lies can't stand the test of time..see below.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 3:05pm On Sep 11, 2020
salford1:

I do not have a name. I am not a journalist. I let the professionals do their job.

I'm addition, a reason was given for staying anonymous based on the antics of Trump and his cultists. I do not blame the person/sources for that. Security and safety comes first.

Remember that Trump also gave an anonymous source for Obama's birthier stuff back then.
You can't have a name because no one heard him say that and please stop using the word professional in the same word with the fake news media quacks that have been dragging journalism in the mud for the past four years. Security comes first? What has happened to those who have said bad things about Trump? All those who have written negative books about him? All those who testified against him in impeachment hearings? All the media members writing lies about him? Nothing happened to them!! Please your fake news media should look for another lie to tell, they sound like fools saying their anonymous sources are afraid of mean tweets grin.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 3:13pm On Sep 11, 2020
Damaging tapes from Woodward book drives Trump to compare his COVID19 response to Churchill in WWII

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-compares-pandemic-leadership-to-churchill-during-wwii-91514437769

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 3:20pm On Sep 11, 2020
feedthenation:
Damaging tapes from Woodward book drives Trump to compare his COVID19 response to Churchill in WWII

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-compares-pandemic-leadership-to-churchill-during-wwii-91514437769

grin grin grin

Trump is a clown

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 3:21pm On Sep 11, 2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 3:24pm On Sep 11, 2020
Zuorom:

You can't have a name because no one heard him say that and please stop using the word professional in the same word with the fake news media quacks that have been dragging journalism in the mud for the past four years. Security comes first? What has happened to those who have said bad things about Trump? All those who have written negative books about him? All those who testified against him in impeachment hearings? All the media members writing lies about him? Nothing happened to them!! Please your fake news media should look for another lie to tell, they sound like fools saying their anonymous sources are afraid of mean tweets grin.
I am glad Woodward had Trump's statements on tape, else he would have denied as usual or even say he has only ever met the journalist in passing.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 3:26pm On Sep 11, 2020
[quote author=salford1 post=93813543][/quote]

You will always know a leader by each of their sentences.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 3:27pm On Sep 11, 2020
9/11 Memorial Day

Joe Biden says, "I’m not going to be talking about anything other than 9/11. It’s a solemn day, and that’s how we’re gonna keep it." Notes his campaign pulled down all advertising today. He and Jill will visit the 9/11 Memorial in NYC and Shanksville, PA.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1304393340675383297

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 3:29pm On Sep 11, 2020
salford1:

I am glad Woodward had Trump's statements on tape, else he would have denied as usual or even say he has only ever met the journalist in passing.

Even with all evidences, he is still trying to downplay it. Its a norm for him and his followers, they always have a hole to run to.

Imagine him saying Woodward should have notified the authorities since he told him.

Its getting boring pointing out Trumps flaws cos its becoming a norm

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 3:34pm On Sep 11, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:


You will always know a leader by each of their sentences.

Absolutely.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 3:37pm On Sep 11, 2020
feedthenation:
9/11 Memorial Day

Joe Biden says, "I’m not going to be talking about anything other than 9/11. It’s a solemn day, and that’s how we’re gonna keep it." Notes his campaign pulled down all advertising today. He and Jill will visit the 9/11 Memorial in NYC and Shanksville, PA.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1304393340675383297
Meanwhile cheesy:

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 3:57pm On Sep 11, 2020
Difference between Obama statement about Ebola in 2014

https://twitter.com/i/status/1304112880535711745


...and Trump about Covid-19 in 2020

https://twitter.com/i/status/1304385527030845444

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 4:07pm On Sep 11, 2020
salford1:

Meanwhile cheesy:

We can't expect much GenocideTrump, going by his reactions in 2001

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 4:16pm On Sep 11, 2020
….compared to Hillary Clinton, the then First female Senator for New York...

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:36pm On Sep 11, 2020
DissTroy:
Apparently Budaatum, in his typical fraudulent self went to edit the article in a bid to provide alternate facts and twist reality like the crîmiînál that he is, which further confirms my original assertion that anyone can edit a Wikipedia page.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12308938_screenshot20200910220243_pngd5ffd4fc209ed86932296b2a1f58e17f

What he forgot it all Wikipedia editing have editing histories anyone with a login account can check and previous editors of any given page are notified of who and what was edited.

Fraudatum, pay up, apologize and deactivate. You'd be hounded more fiercely than a Bengal tiger hunting a scared rabbit.
You are very stupid. Thankfully, my banned post which is directly above your drivel beneath it has been reinstated for all to see the cretin that you are. You can see it included a record of your edit history you claim I forgot. Perhaps you think I'm ignorant like you are and not know anyone can edit a wikipedia page. Thankfully, wikipedia has a way of weeding out idiots like you, as I have clearly shown you.

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