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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 12:57pm On Aug 25, 2021
basilico:


Democrats are at the forefront of any policy that destroys family units. And Christianity too.
And common sense morals.

A certain sort of Christianity that promotes the ignorant stupidity of Adam, as opposed to that of use her senses Eve's, needs destroying.

The creation of magas is similar to that of almanjeris, and should not be allowed to become a pandemic!

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 1:02pm On Aug 25, 2021
benalvino3:


On Twitter I see people who lose vaccinated love ones all the time but I don't use that to score points.

Some pigs are even refusing treat unvaccinated patient

Did your own mother not beat you when you threatened to burn your own hand? Most parents in my neighbourhood would stick your hand in the fire for you so you learn to not be so stupid!

Why should they be treated when they refuse to treat themselves?

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by benalvino3: 1:05pm On Aug 25, 2021
budaatum:


Did your own mother not beat you when you threatened to burn your own hand? Most parents in my neighbourhood would stick your hand in the fire for you so you learn to not be so stupid!

Why should they be treated when they refuse to treat themselves?


This here is what I don't understand. Why would someone say such thing?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 1:10pm On Aug 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


Whites hate us, Whites are oppresing us they Now find out that the leader of an anti black hate group is not actually a white man.

I'm amused that no one has wondered why members of "an anti black hate group" would let themselves be led by a brown skinned Afrocuban.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by CutieKing: 2:17pm On Aug 25, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
They can kill each other off and i couldn't care. One thing i noticed is that Nigeria has to be very careful not to fall into what Afghanistan fell into with Boko Haram. If Boko Haram overruns the Northeastern part of Nigeria, they will overwhelm the whoke country and where will 200 million Nigerians move to.

Abeg we need to stop this fear mongering Biko..How can boko haram overrun Nigeria?.is Nigeria so little a country to fall into a rag tag group like BH?have they overran Borno state where they are majorly based?
Is Nigeria a one religion state ??
We should stop wishing evil on the country.
By the way, is Taliban a terrorist organization?.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 2:52pm On Aug 25, 2021
budaatum:


I'm amused that no one has wondered why members of "an anti black hate group" would let themselves be led by a brown skinned Afrocuban.

That would be because Proud Boys came up after Antifa was targeting conservative groupings and meetings.
The left called them white supremacists , the lamestream media never went into the details of the leader because that would destroy the white supremacists narrative.

Enough education for today.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by benalvino3: 3:05pm On Aug 25, 2021
basilico:


That would be because Proud Boys came up after Antifa was targeting conservative groupings and meetings.
The left called them white supremacists , the lamestream media never went into the details of the leader because that would destroy the white supremacists narrative.

Enough education for today.

When you see them with black wife and children, have all kinds of race involved, it will be hard to say if they see a black man in isolation they will kill him and Ibime has been preaching. I'd like to know if there has ever been a situation where they lynch a black man.

I checked yesterday, their leader is brown as some want to argue here, they vice leader is Black, they call him the pope. So two people of color are leading a white supremacy group. I don't understand.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:10pm On Aug 25, 2021
CutieKing:


Abeg we need to stop this fear mongering Biko..How can boko haram overrun Nigeria?.is Nigeria so little a country to fall into a rag tag group like BH?have they overran Borno state where they are majorly based?
Is Nigeria a one religion state ??
We should stop wishing evil on the country.
By the way, is Taliban a terrorist organization?.
Tell the people in Northeastern part of Nigeria, Laduna, Plateau and other States being kidnapped and killed by Boko Haram terrorists that they are not violent. Tell the people in the South that are being raped, maimed, kidnapped and killed that by Cow herders that have the same beliefs as Boko Haram that it means nothing. Bubu is silently sympathetic to the cause of Boko Haram and so are some of his top Government officials and Minister Pataki. Danger is looming in Nigeria when Boko Haram fighters caught are being rehabilitated and enlisted in the Army. Like i said, Nigeria is on the precipice and i hate to see her fall off the cliff.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Tdotbluejays: 3:21pm On Aug 25, 2021
Some on this thread like to defend terrorists and extremists.

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes says he is quitting right wing group FBI labels 'extremist'

Andrew Buncombe
Seattle
Thursday 22 November 2018

Gavin McInnes, the founder of the far right wing Proud Boys group, said he was quitting – a day it was revealed the FBI had listed it as an “extremist organisation with ties to white nationalism”.

In a video posted to YouTube, Mr McInnes, also a founder member of Vice Media, said he was “officially disassociating” himself from the Proud Boys “in all capacities, forever”. He said he was doing to help the legal problems confronting several members charged after attacking demonstrators in New York, who were protesting a speech he was delivering.

“I was told to use the term “stepping down” but I refused because that makes no sense. I was never the leader, only the founder. Although, the media will likely say, ‘Gavin McInnes Steps Down as Leader of Extremist Hate Group Proud Boys’ because that’s how they roll,” he said.

The 48-year-old, described by the New York Times as a “Brooklyn hipster turned far-right provocateur”, established the Proud Boys in 2016, claiming it was “a fraternal organisation” interested in defending so-called western values.

He has denied it is extremist or violent, even though he has a record of making racist, misogynistic and otherwise offensive remarks. He has used a racial slur to describe African American senator Cory Booker, said he admits he is Islamophobic, and has insulted foreign cultures from India to Australia.

The group has also repeatedly been associated with violent attacks, including against anti-fascist protesters. Members of the group allegedly took part in last summer’s far right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where one protester was killed. Twitter, Facebook and Instagram have blocked the organisation.

More recently, around half-a-dozen members of the group have been charged after clashing with anti-fascist protesters following a speech Mr McInnes delivered on October 12 at the Metropolitan Republican Club, on New York’s Upper East Side.

The announcement by Mr McInnes, who could not be contacted on Thursday, came just days after it was reported that FBI considered the group “extremist organisation with ties to white nationalism”.

“The FBI has warned local law enforcement agencies that the Proud Boys are actively recruiting in the Pacific Northwest and that some Proud Boy members have contributed to the recent escalation of violence at political rallies held on college campuses, and in cities like Charlottesville, Virginia; Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington,” the document added.

The Southern Poverty Law Centre (SPLC), an Alabama-based watchdog group, has described the the organisation as both “extremist” and a “hate group”.

“Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists,” the SPLC says of the group. “They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville.”

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 3:24pm On Aug 25, 2021
CutieKing:


Abeg we need to stop this fear mongering Biko..How can boko haram overrun Nigeria?.is Nigeria so little a country to fall into a rag tag group like BH?have they overran Borno state where they are majorly based?
Is Nigeria a one religion state ??
We should stop wishing evil on the country.
By the way, is Taliban a terrorist organization?.

This video answers you .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wred1cAai0
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Tdotbluejays: 3:24pm On Aug 25, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Tell the people in Northeastern part of Nigeria, Laduna, Plateau and other States being kidnapped and killed by Boko Haram terrorists that they are not violent. Tell the people in the South that are being raped, maimed, kidnapped and killed that by Cow herders that have the same beliefs as Boko Haram that it means nothing. Bubu is silently sympathetic to the cause of Boko Haram and so are some of his top Government officials and Minister Pataki. Danger is looming in Nigeria when Boko Haram fighters caught are being rehabilitated and enlisted in the Army. Like i said, Nigeria is on the precipice and i hate to see her fall off the cliff.
This was just 2 days or 1 day ago.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Tdotbluejays: 3:27pm On Aug 25, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Tell the people in Northeastern part of Nigeria, Laduna, Plateau and other States being kidnapped and killed by Boko Haram terrorists that they are not violent. Tell the people in the South that are being raped, maimed, kidnapped and killed that by Cow herders that have the same beliefs as Boko Haram that it means nothing. Bubu is silently sympathetic to the cause of Boko Haram and so are some of his top Government officials and Minister Pataki. Danger is looming in Nigeria when Boko Haram fighters caught are being rehabilitated and enlisted in the Army. Like i said, Nigeria is on the precipice and i hate to see her fall off the cliff.
And just now on FP. This one has gone past Bornu state.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by benalvino3: 3:33pm On Aug 25, 2021
What's the difference?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by benalvino3: 3:36pm On Aug 25, 2021
Heaven

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:36pm On Aug 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:

And just now on FP. This one has gone past Bornu state.
salford, let them keep snoozing until Nigeria turns to Syria, Yemen and Afghanistan. I hope all these Nigerians are in good shape and have their visas and private jets ready because the Thieflicians they support have their private jets and some of them were showcased at the Kano Airport few days ago when Bubu's son got married plus their leaders have tons of foreign currencies all over Europe and Americas. I pray not but when Boko Haram are being rehabilitated and enlisted in the Military, i see Afghanistan loading.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Goodvibes007: 3:37pm On Aug 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:

And just now on FP. This one has gone past Bornu state.
30 people just like that! That's war, but the government would just move on like that's normal.

It's gotten so bad that they don't event know how horrible it is. The government does not keep numbers of deaths by violence from Fulani herdmens and bandits rampaging all over the country anymore. The life of a cow (treasure to Northerners) is more valuable than that of the masses as it stands now.

It was the Defence Academy yesterday and 3 officers killed. I am surprised that TVC, an APC leaning media house is even reporting that Nigeria is number 3 on the Global Terrorism Index.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:39pm On Aug 25, 2021
benalvino3:
Heaven
A loser in the land filled with ritualists not to talk of your crooked police, DSS and many local thugs that will wipe you away and no compensation for your family and no justice meted to the brutal Government killers. At least, George Floyd family got $27 million for his unjustified death and the officer that assassinated him in daylight is in gulag now.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:41pm On Aug 25, 2021
Goodvibes007:

30 people just like that! That's war, but the government would just move on like that's normal.

It's gotten so bad that they don't event know how horrible it is. The government does not keep numbers of deaths by violence from Fulani herdmens and bandits rampaging all over the country anymore. The life of a cow (treasure to Northerners) is more valuable than that of the masses as it stands now.

It was the Defence Academy yesterday and 3 officers killed. I am surprised that TVC, an APC leaning media house is even reporting that Nigeria is number 3 on the Global Terrorism Index.
Say it again Buddy. This people think Afghanistan happened in one day. The sad thing is that there's no country in West Africa that can habor 200 million people and the West will definitely look away because they can get their oil from other countries.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by benalvino3: 3:52pm On Aug 25, 2021
White privilege can't help them, i thought as they are white they would have it easy but Afghans will be given homes and the homeless will still pay for it through tax grin

The tent looks like my beloved tent.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 3:52pm On Aug 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Some on this thread like to defend terrorists and extremists.

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes says he is quitting right wing group FBI labels 'extremist'

Andrew Buncombe
Seattle
Thursday 22 November 2018

Gavin McInnes, the founder of the far right wing Proud Boys group, said he was quitting – a day it was revealed the FBI had listed it as an “extremist organisation with ties to white nationalism”.


Where white nationalism is defined as a crime and black nationalism is not


In a video posted to YouTube, Mr McInnes, also a founder member of Vice Media, said he was “officially disassociating” himself from the Proud Boys “in all capacities, forever”. He said he was doing to help the legal problems confronting several members charged after attacking demonstrators in New York, who were protesting a speech he was delivering.

He was holding a speech. There was a clash with antifa who came to protest his speech.
antifa clearly the provocateurs here



“I was told to use the term “stepping down” but I refused because that makes no sense. I was never the leader, only the founder. Although, the media will likely say, ‘Gavin McInnes Steps Down as Leader of Extremist Hate Group Proud Boys’ because that’s how they roll,” he said.

The 48-year-old, described by the New York Times as a “Brooklyn hipster turned far-right provocateur”, established the Proud Boys in 2016, claiming it was “a fraternal organisation” interested in defending so-called western values.


Defending western values became wrong at what date? What western values was he defending?



He has denied it is extremist or violent, even though he has a record of making racist, misogynistic and otherwise offensive remarks. He has used a racial slur to describe African American senator Cory Booker, said he admits he is Islamophobic, and has insulted foreign cultures from India to Australia.



Islamophobia is a tag to shame anyone who criticises aspects of Islam Which many of us on this thread already have



The group has also repeatedly been associated with violent attacks, including against anti-fascist protesters. Members of the group allegedly took part in last summer’s far right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where one protester was killed. Twitter, Facebook and Instagram have blocked the organisation.

Why are antifa going to his meetings.To look for a confrontation that media will tag as a violent event.



More recently, around half-a-dozen members of the group have been charged after clashing with anti-fascist protesters following a speech Mr McInnes delivered on October 12 at the Metropolitan Republican Club, on New York’s Upper East Side.

Getting the pattern? Always antifa showing up spoiling for a fight.



The announcement by Mr McInnes, who could not be contacted on Thursday, came just days after it was reported that FBI considered the group “extremist organisation with ties to white nationalism”.

“The FBI has warned local law enforcement agencies that the Proud Boys are actively recruiting in the Pacific Northwest and that some Proud Boy members have contributed to the recent escalation of violence at political rallies held on college campuses, and in cities like Charlottesville, Virginia; Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington,” the document added.

The Southern Poverty Law Centre (SPLC), an Alabama-based watchdog group, has described the the organisation as both “extremist” and a “hate group”.


The far left SPLC that tags any conservative as hate groups and is used as factcheckers by the likes of Facebook



“Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists,” the SPLC says of the group. “They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville.”

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by benalvino3: 4:01pm On Aug 25, 2021
basilico:


Where white nationalism is defined as a crime and black nationalism is not


He was holding a speech. There was a clash with antifa who came to protest his speech.
antifa clearly the provocateurs here



Defending western values became wrong at what date? What western values was he defending?


Islamophobia is a tag to shame anyone who criticises aspects of Islam Which many of us on this thread already have


Why are antifa going to his meetings.To look for a confrontation that media will tag as a violent event.


Getting the pattern? Always antifa showing up spoiling for a fight.



The far left SPLC that tags any conservative as hate groups and is used as factcheckers by the likes of Facebook


But when a grooming gang and a rape gang is exposed expect him to whitewash it.

Antifa go about attacking almost anything burning businesses and police they are good grin

Tomorrow he will go to Twitter and screenshot people talking about the most frightening moment in their life. And when they start to discuss experience dating almost 2 decades, he will not post it like Port Harcourt is that bad then make a comment about his favorite super heroes (US) to go and fight crimes grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Goodvibes007: 4:11pm On Aug 25, 2021
benalvino3:
White privilege can't help them, i thought as they are white they would have it easy but Afghans will be given homes and the homeless will still pay for it through tax grin

The tent looks like my beloved tent.
This post is embarrassing to be honest.
This is why we often say it's not just about reading stuff off google.

Do you know that there are safety nets, shelters, social services e.t.c. available to this people, but they fail to use it?

Maybe you should dig more into Google. You have a lot to learn.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by zendi: 4:13pm On Aug 25, 2021
LordReed:


You do realise that the US still imports from Saudi right? About 7.9million barrels per day as at 2018 when Trump was still president, you think he could have ignored that aspect for other things?

1 "America's interests are varied not just oil but oil is major that is why Saudi is a key ally of (the America)".... LordReed

2 "Oil ceased to be major (interes) under Trump.".... Zendi

3 "If that is the case then why did Trump go to Saudi?".... LordRead
(As if oil is the only reason a US President would go to Saudi).

Now, LordRead (not my Shepherd grin), the only thing I disagreed with in your original post was the word 'major', stating that that word was dethroned by the oil Supremacy America attained under President Trump.
However, nothing I said meant that oil ceased to be among those varied interests you mentioned.
'Ceased to be major' does not mean 'ceased to be among'. Nor does my term 'oil supremacy' mean absolute zero need to import even a drop of oil from Saudi. It simply means can no longer be blackmailed or held hostage because of oil.
Let me tell you something you don't know about the oil trade; Even if America is drowning in own oil output, some American refineries may still find need to go for the Saudi or even Nigerian grade crude more compatible with the refineries designed and build the era of heavy dependence on externally sourced crude. Nigerian and Saudi cruces are among the best grade, I think for ease of refining.
So, oil may remain among those varied interests but has lost the 'major' status. Albeit cordial relations remained.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Goodvibes007: 4:14pm On Aug 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Some on this thread like to defend terrorists and extremists.

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes says he is quitting right wing group FBI labels 'extremist'

Andrew Buncombe
Seattle
Thursday 22 November 2018

Gavin McInnes, the founder of the far right wing Proud Boys group, said he was quitting – a day it was revealed the FBI had listed it as an “extremist organisation with ties to white nationalism”.

In a video posted to YouTube, Mr McInnes, also a founder member of Vice Media, said he was “officially disassociating” himself from the Proud Boys “in all capacities, forever”. He said he was doing to help the legal problems confronting several members charged after attacking demonstrators in New York, who were protesting a speech he was delivering.

“I was told to use the term “stepping down” but I refused because that makes no sense. I was never the leader, only the founder. Although, the media will likely say, ‘Gavin McInnes Steps Down as Leader of Extremist Hate Group Proud Boys’ because that’s how they roll,” he said.

The 48-year-old, described by the New York Times as a “Brooklyn hipster turned far-right provocateur”, established the Proud Boys in 2016, claiming it was “a fraternal organisation” interested in defending so-called western values.

He has denied it is extremist or violent, even though he has a record of making racist, misogynistic and otherwise offensive remarks. He has used a racial slur to describe African American senator Cory Booker, said he admits he is Islamophobic, and has insulted foreign cultures from India to Australia.

The group has also repeatedly been associated with violent attacks, including against anti-fascist protesters. Members of the group allegedly took part in last summer’s far right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where one protester was killed. Twitter, Facebook and Instagram have blocked the organisation.

More recently, around half-a-dozen members of the group have been charged after clashing with anti-fascist protesters following a speech Mr McInnes delivered on October 12 at the Metropolitan Republican Club, on New York’s Upper East Side.

The announcement by Mr McInnes, who could not be contacted on Thursday, came just days after it was reported that FBI considered the group “extremist organisation with ties to white nationalism”.

“The FBI has warned local law enforcement agencies that the Proud Boys are actively recruiting in the Pacific Northwest and that some Proud Boy members have contributed to the recent escalation of violence at political rallies held on college campuses, and in cities like Charlottesville, Virginia; Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington,” the document added.

The Southern Poverty Law Centre (SPLC), an Alabama-based watchdog group, has described the the organisation as both “extremist” and a “hate group”.

“Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists,” the SPLC says of the group. “They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville.”

I did not even know that the FBI has labelled them as extremists. Even the SPLC labelled them as Hate group. Thanks for the post.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by benalvino3: 4:17pm On Aug 25, 2021
Goodvibes007:

This post is embarrassing to be honest.
This is why we often say it's not just about reading stuff off google.

Do you know that there are safety nets, shelters, social services e.t.c. available to this people, but they fail to use it?

Maybe you should dig more into Google. You have a lot to learn.

Hmmm? Who prefers to sleep on the road when there are more comfy places?

Maybe what you said is just fictional
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by benalvino3: 4:18pm On Aug 25, 2021
Goodvibes007:

I did not even know that the FBI has labelled them as extremists. Even the SPLC labelled them as Hate group. Thanks for the post.

If you follow the SPLC your head no correct.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Goodvibes007: 4:20pm On Aug 25, 2021
benalvino3:


If you follow the SPLC your head no correct.
That is rich coming from you Lol.
So who should I believe. The MAGATs crowd? LMAO

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 4:21pm On Aug 25, 2021
benalvino3:


When you see them with black wife and children, have all kinds of race involved, it will be hard to say if they see a black man in isolation they will kill him and Ibime has been preaching. I'd like to know if there has ever been a situation where they lynch a black man.

I checked yesterday, their leader is brown as some want to argue here, they vice leader is Black, they call him the pope. So two people of color are leading a white supremacy group. I don't understand.

The left plays by these Saul Alinsky rules for radicals. His adherents are very prominent people in the society including an ex President whose name I wont mention.

"Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
"Never go outside the expertise of your people."
"Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."
"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."
"A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
"A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
"Keep the pressure on."
"The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. "
"The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
"If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."
"The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Goodvibes007: 4:21pm On Aug 25, 2021
benalvino3:


Hmmm? Who prefers to sleep on the road when there are more comfy places?

Maybe what you said is just fictional
You need to do more googling or better still beg PrideofLincoln to send you an invitation letter to visit the USA. You can now go ahead and interview junkies and other people living on the street on why they prefer living outside when there re free shelters and available safety nets.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 4:28pm On Aug 25, 2021
zendi:

1 "America's interests are varied not just oil but oil is major that is why Saudi is a key ally of (the America)".... LordReed

2 "Oil ceased to be major (interes) under Trump.".... Zendi

3 "If that is the case then why did Trump go to Saudi?".... LordRead
(As if oil is the only reason a US President would go to Saudi).

Now, LordRead (not my Shepherd grin), the only thing I disagreed with in your original post was the word 'major', stating that that word was dethroned by the oil Supremacy America attained under President Trump.
However, nothing I said meant that oil ceased to be among those varied interests you mentioned.
'Ceased to be major' does not mean 'ceased to be among'. Nor does my term 'oil supremacy' mean absolute zero need to import even a drop of oil from Saudi. It simply means can no longer be blackmailed or held hostage because of oil.
Let me tell you something you don't know about the oil trade; Even if America is drowning in own oil output, some American refineries may still find need to go for the Saudi or even Nigerian grade crude more compatible with the refineries designed and build the era of heavy dependence on externally sourced crude. Nigerian and Saudi cruces are among the best grade, I think for ease of refining.
So, oil may remain among those varied interests but has lost the 'major' status. Albeit cordial relations remained.


Me I don't understand how your second largest oil trading partner is not a major concern for your oil/energy industry. Sure there's a glut in the market because of the lockdowns but that only happened in 2020/2021 before that oil imports were well above half a million barrels per day and had even increased over the past decade. How you're claiming that Saudi's oil is no longer a major concern for the US is what I am struggling to understand. Can you provide proper context because going by figures I see this still looks like a major concern for the US.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by benalvino3: 4:29pm On Aug 25, 2021
Goodvibes007:

That is rich coming from you Lol.
So who should I believe. The MAGATs crowd? LMAO

I have said if you go by SPLC your head no correct full stop.

They are scam, a political scam.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Goodvibes007: 4:33pm On Aug 25, 2021
benalvino3:


I have said if you go by SPLC your head no correct full stop.

They are scam, a political scam.
Because Benalvino, An unknown nonentity that loves to posts pictures of her aunty's vacation and house on Nairaland has a different opinion. LMAO

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