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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by garetz: 6:08am On Mar 31, 2020 |
budaatum:Lol, you've been listening to too much liberal propaganda. Who says no doctor can prescribe chloroquine? What nonsense!! So you don't know the clinical trials been conducted in New York is actually prescribing the drug to actual human beings? The trials the WHO is conducting is also actual human beings been prescribed the drug. Chloroquine has long been approved for human use and if a doctor knows that it is effective to cure his patient, he is absolutely free to use it. When you listen to all these quack liberal propagandists being paraded by the fake news media, you end becoming misinformed. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by garetz: 6:17am On Mar 31, 2020 |
GalaticHorde:It's your own brain that is filled with marbles. I am not being specific, Trump has never said anything remotely resembling chloroquine being an across board or a stand alone drug. And you seem to be afflicted by some kind of delusion of grandeur, who the hell needs your acceptance of chloroquine or not? You're telling me about your standards for accepting as if it is of any consequence or even relevant in anyway . The FDA has already approved it and Chloroquine is already been used to good effect in The US and many other countries to battle the virus. Who gives a damn what you think or don't think about it 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by armyofone(m): 6:26am On Mar 31, 2020 |
U.S. Shipped Tons Of COVID-19 Supplies To China As Trump Dismissed Threat Here. "The U.S. State Department shipped 17.8 tons of donated coronavirus medical supplies to China seven weeks ago, when health experts and some American lawmakers were already seeking federal action to prepare the country for the disease. The massive shipment to China included medical masks, gowns and respirators, now in desperately short supply across America. The supplies were contributed by American companies and nonprofits, according to a U.S. Agency for International Development official. https://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-china-coronavirus-shortage-governors_n_5e8179c6c5b66149226a0ff8?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHa8o_wxeCUvCB_TXC2F8ZR5CHX5jwtqYSMwZjslCg0x3VQuZ8UdTkQcgO9CewzZFUHEgAWtGdYziwWDnFXv6eH9Ghd7PpgCEMrj8gQdSlMN_j_AbU4PW0sF1U6OdIu-f6gl8GOv0e8Y3LN9yvAWnqs7Ctbz1zbcx5Vx38uyjXbA Maybe they were shipped to China but weren't hoarded? Conflicting news everywhere! wowcatty: I just want us to be able to supply what we need at this crucial time. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by garetz: 6:28am On Mar 31, 2020 |
wirinet:You're the one suffering from delusions and comprehension deficit disorder not me. So a medical doctor runs a test on 25 people with a drug for a disease that has no cure and 25% of them recovered yet you can't see the potential in that drug? And for your information, none of his patients died. You liberals dwell in a bubble of ignorance that amuses me. This was a trial that was widely covered in the media yet you know nothing about it but you will be the first to jump into an argument about chloroquine to spout ignorance all over the place. FYI, as a result of that test, the WHO has approved chloroquine as one of the drugs they are now using for clinical trials in 10 volunteer countries. You must think your liberal media talk heads are smarter than the WHO doctors that are now using same drug on human beings or the FDA that approved it for coronavirus treatment. And you're showing me the opinions of a malaria expert? For goodness sake, what does malaria have to do with a virus? I posted you links of doctors that specialize in fighting viruses who have successfully used this drug in fighting the virus and you're telling me about a malaria expert, Maybe you will next show me the opinion of a gynaecologist or optician. Nonsense!! https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095 5 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wowcatty: 6:29am On Mar 31, 2020 |
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by garetz: 6:59am On Mar 31, 2020 |
FDA issues emergency authorization of anti-malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for coronavirus care. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 7:21am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Goldmaxx:these liberals are just dunces, there’s hardly a man that hasn’t at one point in his life sexualized a woman in private in the midst of his close buddies. Even ladies do it. So what’s the fuss about.? 6 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by garetz: 7:22am On Mar 31, 2020 |
It turns out the foolish woman who drank fish tank cleaner with her husband was a democrat who has donated thousands of dollars to democrat candidates, some as recent as last month. She also donated to Hillary Clinton in 2016. I just knew it had to be a Democrat, you can't be that stupid and not be a democrat, those two go hand in hand. "Wanda told the Free Beacon that she and her husband were both Democrats, not Trump supporters. They heard about the potential benefits of chloroquine, an antimalarial drug, in news reports. She decided at the “spur of the moment” to try taking it, but reached for a fish tank cleaner in her pantry that contains chloroquine phosphate, a different and deadly form of the chemical. "“We weren’t big supporters of [Trump], but we did see that they were using it in China and stuff,” Wanda told the Free Beacon. “And we just made a horrible, tragic mistake,” she said. “It was stupid, and it was horrible, and we should have never done it. But it’s done and now I’ve lost my husband. And my whole life was my husband.” https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/woman-who-ingested-fish-tank-cleaner-was-prolific-donor-to-democratic-causes/ I'll tell you my opinion, I believe this was murder! This woman deliberately and intentionally killed her husband 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 7:31am On Mar 31, 2020 |
garetz: And how many people do you think trump will kill by forcing the government to waste resources on an unproven gambit? This is not a movie. This is real life. He thinks this is some movie where the slacker gets off his arse and solves the problem in the eleventh hour. Les watch and see. When this flops, he will start another round of denying personal responsibility and buck passing Republicans, the anti science people. The process of rigid verified testing is alien to you. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 7:34am On Mar 31, 2020 |
As I said, budaatum:As in, clinical trials to test if it actually works, which are what are currently being done, to prove its at least better than a placebo.
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 7:38am On Mar 31, 2020 |
armyofone: With the idiot in the White House, and the fools still supporting him, you are all bleeped. Someone who has a feeling they don’t need that many ventilators, who is accusing desperate health workers of stealing, who wants states to fight over relief materials? You people are fked. Even now, all he thinks about is how he can get a second term. James comey said it when they interviewed him, it is better for trump to get two terms so you people will fully hit rock bottom. That may be the only way your lunatic right will be cleansed. Then again, all they will do is the same nonsense they did when they had to come to terms with GWs fkups. Form a newer, crazier tea party 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 7:46am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Hopefully the useless spambot will not ban me again https://www.antidote.me/blog/how-long-do-clinical-trial-phases-take Clinical trials can take 3 to 7 years So that every possibility is ruled out. What you have now is pure trial and error being pushed forward as a cure. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 7:51am On Mar 31, 2020 |
armyofone: This is an actual American. While we are arguing about a useless self serving demagogue, American citizens are in perilous times. I feel for you guys. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Zuorom: 8:05am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:You are mixing up things, there's a difference between clinical trials on a drug that has already been approved for human consumption and one on a trial drug that hasn't been used by human beings. What's happening with chloroquine is not trial and error. These are qualified medical personnel putting their medical knowledge to use to help people and they have been very helpful in saving a lot of lives and up to date, they have not recorded a single case of a patient showing adverse reaction after they prescribed chloroquine to them. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 8:10am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom: Has chloroquine been confirmed for use on covid 9? Do you understand that all the professionals are clearly saying it may not work, and that this is just trump pushing forward? There is a shortage of ventilators, a shortage of ppe, and trump is directing the nation to blow resources on a gut feeling? Did the Chinese who had far more resources at their disposal clear out the virus with chloroquine or with social distancing? The entire process for approval of this drug to treat coronavirus has been bypassed. Because trump wants to look good. You are watching in real time how he bankrupted 4 casinos. Gut feeling. Sycopants, chaos, inconsistency, pettiness and immunity from consequences. Some one else always suffers for his incompetence. This time it is Americans. There will be enough to go around. Some are gloating that it is liberals in ny and California. It will soon get to the heartlands. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 8:21am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom: Which doctor is reported to have prescribed chloroquine or quinine for a coronavirus? Since we have been having coronaviruses, no doctor had every prescribed chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for its cure. I have been taking chloroquine and sometimes Quinine all my life as I am very susceptible to malaria. Any doctor will tell you that Quinine should be taken with caution, as it causes heart pulpertations. It can be very dangerous for people with heart problem or hypertension. Even me with a very good heart with no hypertension, when my doctor puts me on quinine, he makes sure he monitors my heart beat and pressure closely, not to talk of people with weak hearts. Trump and his supporters prescribing drugs they know nothing about will kill more people that would have died from coronavirus. Coronavirus itself if not that fatal, it's fatality rate is between 2 -4% (with the exception of Northern Italy where other factors caused a relatively higher fatality rate). 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Zuorom: 9:11am On Mar 31, 2020 |
wirinet:A lot of doctors have confirmed using chloroquine in treatment of coronavirus and the result was good. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Zuorom: 9:13am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:Yes chloroquine has been approved for covid 19 and yes, the Chinese also used chloroquine. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 9:35am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:When you bag covid-19 and they give you chloroquine don’t use it so you can die of hate. That’s one less vote for Democrats. 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 9:36am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom: you are still refusing to understand. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/30/823987540/fda-oks-addition-to-stockpile-of-malaria-drugs-for-covid-19 Over the weekend, the Food and Drug Administration granted two malaria drugs "emergency use authorization" for the treatment of COVID-19. The move makes it easier to add the medicines to the strategic stockpile, which can be drawn upon in the current public health emergency. google fda chloroquine approval. this is an emergency approval that is being forced through. China did not stop the covid 19 with chloroquine. they stopped it with a hardcore quarantine. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 9:37am On Mar 31, 2020 |
“The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved the use of the decades old anti-malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine after preliminary data showed they had efficacy against COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. The emergency authorisation comes on the back of results from a small study in France, in which four out of five COVID-19 patients who were treated with chloroquine had ‘favourable’ outcomes. The results also demonstrated that 65 of the 80 patients receiving chloroquine treatment improved and were discharged from hospital in an average of less than five days. This data supports earlier preliminary results from a small study of hydroxychloroquine in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin, and as a monotherapy. Although the drug was effective on its own, when added to the antibiotic azithromycin, hydroxychloroquine was found to produce a superior response, by a significant margin. The drug has already been touted as a potential treatment by President Donald Trump, who implied that the drug was approved for use in COVID-19 on 20 March. However, the FDA swiftly rebuked this, stressing that the drug is still being tested clinical to determine its potential against COVID-19. Although the drug has now been approved for emergency use, this authorisation only applies to certain COVID-19 patients, who must meet specific criteria to access the treatment. In a statement from the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the agency said it will allow for the drugs to be "donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible”. Sandoz, the generics division of pharma giant Novartis has already donated 30 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile while German pharma company Bayer has donated one million doses of chloroquine. However, the investigation of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for chloroquine has allegedly caused shortages of the drug for its primary uses as a treatment for lupus and arthritis patients. Meanwhile, experts have been critical of the use of anti-malarial drugs against the novel coronavirus disease, saying there is limited data supporting the emergency use of these drugs against COVID-19. "I would like to see who at FDA's [Medical Countermeasures Initiative] signed off on this EUA despite the total lack of scientific evidence that chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine are beneficial in the treatment of COVID-19," said Luciana Borio in a tweet earlier today. Borio was the FDA's acting chief scientist between 2015 and 2017. "EUA is supposed to be issued when the evidence indicates that benefits outweigh the risks," she added. Meanwhile, Altasciences has completed a phase 1 study of gimsilumab, a fully human monoclonal antibody that targets granulocyte-macrophage colony stimulating factor (GM-CSF), in coronavirus patients with, or who are at risk of developing, acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS). Emerging clinical evidence in COVID-19 patients suggests that GM-CSF contributes to immunopathology caused by the novel coronavirus in patients with or at risk of developing ARDS. ARDS is a serious complication of COVID-19 which causes hospitalisation and mechanical ventilation or other life support measures.” https://www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/fda_grants_emergency_authorisation_to_chloroquine_for_covid-19_1331981?SQ_DESIGN_NAME=2& 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 9:38am On Mar 31, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: you are a typical republican - anti science. if idiots like you had been around during world war 2, they would have killed themselves developing the atom bomb, because they would have rushed it out without confirming its effectiveness and safety. this is what you idiots are reducing the US to - a country running trial and error gambles on an industrial scale so your dear idiot in the WH can look good for 10 minutes. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 9:42am On Mar 31, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: do you louts even know how to read? this is from your article. copy and paste dunces “The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved the use of the decades old anti-malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine after preliminary data showed they had efficacy against COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. a process that takes years - you fools want it to be rushed. why do you think no other nation is jumping on the idea of chloroquine/ why is it only the US? because the US is the only country with an incompetent clown as a leader. even boris johnson is not going this route. all trump is doing is giving false hope and turning people to guinea pigs. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 9:44am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:It’s you who don’t know how to read, it was rebuked then but it is now approved! Live with it! 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 9:49am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:4 out of 5 people successfully cured and discharged, another 65 out of 80 benefited from same. But you’ll rather have them die than test the drug cos of hate! Like I said when you bag Covid-19 and you are prescribed Chloroquine don’t take it so you can die waiting for Dems to give you their own patented medication. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 10:05am On Mar 31, 2020 |
wirinet: Even someone with half a brain knows you didn’t make sense comparing malaria treatment with several options of treatment with Covid-19. 4 out of 5 were successfully treated and discharged in France in just 5 days and another 65 out of 80. That’s about 80% success rate in both instances which is very good and we are yet to record any fatality from those that took it with prescription. Covid-19 will kill you if you don’t treat it and you tell people not to take a drug with over 80% success rate to get a life line. What’s the worst that could happen if you take it? It’s simple logic but as expected liberals are not logical. 5 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 10:21am On Mar 31, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: Look at this dunce. Four out of five from a set of 65. You want to take a chance on hundreds of thousands of people based on that? You see why you republicans are anti science dolts? What your god trump is doing is exactly what he promised, running American like a business. Now Americans will all be endangered by a risk taking CEO cowboy who goes by his gut. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by zendi: 11:01am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Trump Derangement Syndrome has fathered Chlorophobia just because Trump voiced optimism on Hydroxychloroquine potential against coronavirus. Commonsense is not needed in the practice of leftism. And the 'Resistance' is more important than saving lives. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Hyperchi(m): 11:20am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus: So u are happy with the death rate, meanwhile a drug show possibility of curing 8000 out of 10000 infected and u are playing politics with it. Answer this question getting the drug and going to funeral which do u prefer 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Nobody: 11:30am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Hyperchi: Do you know what corporate irresponsiblility and recklessness is? This is what it is. When you force untested unproven solutions in a crisis. You better get it through your empty skull, only America is pushing for widescale use because trump is bullying and forcing whoever is in the FDA to go ahead. When this also fails, you louts will abuse the FDA chief while absolving trump. The solution is clear. Social distancing. The needs are clear, push the local industries to produce ventilators and ppe. But no, this joker, the same one who said hoax, only 15 cases, gone by April, is now making Americans pay for his incompetence. This is third world, idi amin style Google as you go problem solving. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 11:40am On Mar 31, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy:Are you autistic or just pretending to be? FDA and all medical professionals have stressed that "there are no vaccines or cure for coronavirus as of today", so where did you get the false information that 4 out of 5 patients were successfully treated with chloroquine in France. If it was true France will blow her own trumpet and not wait for Trump or you to blow it for them. Coronavirus virus has a fatality rate of between 2 - 4%, so 4 out of 5 patients recovering is even above the fatality rate (assuming 1 out of every patient dies (that's an astounding 20% fatality rate). Most people that survived the coronavirus, did without taking any drug, except palliatives to alleviate symptoms and rest. So even if you take chloroquine, agbo, paracetamol or chalk, the fatality rate would not change from the traditional 2 - 4%. I even think chloroquine will worsen the fatality rate, due to adverse side effects of the drug, especially on people who had never taken it. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Zuorom: 11:40am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:There is nothing to understand here, the only fact in what you posted is that the FDA has approved chloroquine for coronavirus treatment, every other thing you posted is nothing but people's personal opinions, I am sure you can get many other people who agree with this decision. I don't know where you got the idea that someone is forcing the FDA to approve the drug. The FDA didn't say they were forced to do it, if anybody has any evidence that they were forced to do it then let's have the evidence of that. 3 Likes |
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