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Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by RandyX: 4:17pm On May 23, 2018 |
JONNYSPUTE:They are not asking for an apology here. They say they want to punish her. It is humiliation that they think they can hit their fellow worshipper or that they have become God to judge and punish her. If they were to write a report what would they state is their reason for punishing her? That she stood up and sat back down when she was feeling tired in the middle of a prayer? If she is to tender an apology, what would she say? That she is sorry she refused to stay standing when she was weak because an invited guest pastor decided It was best for her to stand and shake violently to make her weakness disappear, even when she has to be gentle carrying her unborn baby? Even if she has to tender an apology, what would the apology gain if she doesn't understand the wrong commited or doesnt feel the need to? A demanded apology is nothing but coercion, in order to massage their bloated ego. Is she apologising to them or to God? Instead of them to sit down with her and address her concern to uplift her faith, they are looking for who to punish. Her church pastor was right, she shouldn't have attended the event if she was not comfortable with the guest preacher's methods. But I do not like the way they have chosen to handle it. They should respect human beings and desire to build true faith not humiliate people in public because they do not agree with her. This is a Pharisee characteristic, a Nigerian law enforcement behaviour, they are more interested in who entered the wrong lane than clearing the traffic or repairing the bad road on the right lane. They are more interested in fighting imaginary enemies than glorifying God and seeking his grace. They are more interested in condemning sinners than preaching to them about God. More interested in stoning the adulterous woman than giving her hope of repentance like Jesus did. 5 Likes |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by JONNYSPUTE(m): 4:49pm On May 23, 2018 |
I can agree to what you said but the fact still remains that she can't continue fighting them. She should just say she is sorry and end the matter before it creeps into her matrimonial home. This is how devil uses rebelliousness to destroy many homes. Pls can you be Honest enough to answer this question: If she belongs to a secret cult and their master asked them to stand up during maybe incantations, will she have the effrontery to sit back when they are still on that? But like u said its only God that sees through our hearts.@Randyx |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by Apina(m): 4:59pm On May 23, 2018 |
UnknownQueen:Have you spoken to your husband yet? If yes, what did he say? |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by RandyX: 5:03pm On May 23, 2018 |
JONNYSPUTE: More importantly now, I think there are 3 things to address. Marriage Belief Church Culture There is just one thing on this lady's mind and that is to keep her marriage. She has said she does believe in God, but is not very certain the church culture does it justice. The real issue here is the fact that she married a man whose religious affiliations are clearly in conflict with hers. I would not find myself in a secret cult in the first place because I know I won't stand there or listen to their incantations neither would I intentionally marry one who is in a secret cult and that would have me attend their conventions passively. I understand the deed has been done. She has married him and she is trying to make her marriage work. Kudos to her for that. However, I think the husband has a lot of work to do to convince his wife to see the good in the church, or he has to start making moves to see that his wife gets comfortable in coming to church for God and not because of his affiliations with a vip attendant who got him a job. The husband shows signs of religious dedication to this church branch and its establishment but has demonstrated little understanding of his spiritual dedication to the God in the church. Ask yourself, if they relocate to another country or region would he still be dedicated? The church culture on the other hand needs to change to reflect the kind of society Christ wants for his children. As head of his home he should not relegate his duties to his pastor. He has a responsibility to lead her to God. He should sit down listen to his wife and understand her concerns, he can then advice her on ways to live out her true faith within the church, if he honestly before God can attest that the church hasn't derailed from true worship. If he finds that truly the church has derailed, He should be actively seeking ways to engage the church in finding creative ways to keep followership and build true faith, so his wife can find true fulfilment for her faith. Or he could find a church where he can perform his spiritual obligations to his family. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by JONNYSPUTE(m): 5:16pm On May 23, 2018 |
RandyX:....Good point. Although you misunderstood my question. I was referring to her being a member of a cult not you and I doubt she will ve the effrontery to sit in the middle of their incantations due to tiredness. As for the husband playing a role to make her understand and feel comfortable in their church,you are right. All the same,two wrongs can't make a right,let her just humble herself and say sorry,she won't die,it won't even make her not to be herself any more. Just for peace to reign, that's all.If she keeps rebelling,things might get worse. A simple sorry would stop all these. Just my opinion though. |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by RandyX: 5:22pm On May 23, 2018 |
JONNYSPUTE: She can apologise today but then the church hasn't succeeded in gaining or improving her faith. This is why punishment is not a good option. Okay she apologised what next? She doesn't feel comfortable in that church and rather than they try to understand the cause, they have exacerbated the issue by victimising/humiliating her. Apologising won't make her sing loudest next Sunday. The underlying root cause of her rebellion has to be tackled and the church isn't doing anything to address it. I agree two wrongs never make it right. I have mentioned before that she should not quarrel with them. However she should go see the head pastor to address the underlying problem. He may see the real issue and be in a better position to address them for her and for his congregation. If he is not known to be the very understanding type and doesn't exercise discretion in handling sensitive issues brought to him in confidence, then she should meet her husband, who can then take up productive measures to help grow her faith and that of his family like I mentioned earlier. Ps: I understood your statement about the cult, I was saying it in terms of being in her shoes. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by JONNYSPUTE(m): 5:30pm On May 23, 2018 |
RandyX:.....If this is the case,then let her be honest enough and open up to her husband. Give him reasons on why she is not comfortable with their style of worship. They can tackle the problems together. She is bottling up a lot of things in her heart against the church and tell me who its affecting negatively, she off course. She should discuss her grievances towards the church with him,pls. |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by RandyX: 5:34pm On May 23, 2018 |
JONNYSPUTE:I just updated my comment before seeing your reply. I think we are on the same page. |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by JONNYSPUTE(m): 5:40pm On May 23, 2018 |
RandyX:. Well done. Stay blessed. |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by Nobody: 6:07pm On May 23, 2018 |
UnknownQueen: You have a reason for rebelling... Address that and you'll find a way forward. If your reasons have substance and you believe in them, then stick to your guns and also deal with the consequences, in the long run, you'll be free. |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by Nobody: 6:24pm On May 23, 2018 |
JONNYSPUTE:Why does a pastor need to force another adult to stand before him. what if she had health problems that prevented her from standing for too long... Your pastors behave like God even when they've not been called by him. 2 Likes |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by UnknownQueen(f): 9:03pm On May 23, 2018 |
Bidobado: Deal. |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by RealAdewole(m): 2:16pm On May 24, 2018 |
femi4:but she is pregnant 1 Like |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by tenmariner: 3:09pm On May 24, 2018 |
The so called pastor is even wrong to mention or utter such word towards u.. That is why I don't give a cool face at church.. I hardly make friends with anyone even my pastor. Jesus Christ whoose template we follow will not say that to his apostles or members which means the pastor should first pastor himself before pastoring others.. 1 Like |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by RealAdewole(m): 3:13pm On May 24, 2018 |
Holymann: so, with this, what supposed to be the responsibility of the Pastor in charge? to teach, listen or rebuke? |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by RealAdewole(m): 3:18pm On May 24, 2018 |
RandyX: Amen. I pray one day the church and pastors will wake up to their real responsibilities 1 Like |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by Holymann(m): 3:38pm On May 24, 2018 |
RealAdewole:All Three |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by Uyi168: 4:07pm On May 24, 2018 |
Diamond23:..na yeye things just full ur mind.. 1 Like |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by kullozone(m): 4:12pm On May 24, 2018 |
femi4: Did you read her reasons for not standing up in the first place? So if something had happened to her while the was pastor forcing her to stand up, the pastor would've healed her abi? I don't know why you people just believe a pastor can't be wrong too. Very annoying comments everywhere 4 Likes |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by CAPSLOCKED: 5:16pm On May 24, 2018 |
UnknownQueen: THAT'S YOUR BIGGEST MISTAKE. UNLESS YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, YOU'LL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 2 Likes |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by RealAdewole(m): 5:29pm On May 24, 2018 |
Holymann: BUT HE ONLY DID ONE |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by Diamond23(f): 6:26pm On May 24, 2018 |
Uyi168:
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Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by Holymann(m): 8:12pm On May 24, 2018 |
RealAdewole: How do you listen to someone who wasn't talking How do you teach someone who has already made up her mind that what you are doing is wrong and she wasn't going to do it 1 Like |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by pawshjai(f): 12:56am On May 25, 2018 |
Apina:nd u spoke my mind 1 Like |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by Uyi168: 9:36am On May 25, 2018 |
Diamond23:Sowi.. |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by tomdon(m): 10:09am On May 25, 2018 |
UnknownQueen: Your heart is the devil's abode. Haba Why is it that your heart desires are just chaos and rebellion?? |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by tomdon(m): 10:15am On May 25, 2018 |
UnknownQueen: Hahaha you have fukked the pastor before, baddest All these pastors sef, and they'll be claiming saints And you, you need to accept Christ so that you can be meek. Read Mathew 5:5 |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by UnknownQueen(f): 10:24am On May 25, 2018 |
tomdon: Because I don't walk in people's shadow...... |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by RealAdewole(m): 12:10pm On May 25, 2018 |
Holymann:the same way you preach to non believer |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by AMEzekiel: 12:43pm On May 25, 2018 |
Good day ma. I think that for anyone to know how to operate within an organization he must understand the tenets of that organization and to be happy in any organization one must have a good working relationship with the staff of that organization. Christianity is not in any denomination, Christianity is not in a code of conduct but Christianity is relationship with God through His Son Jesus Christ. I may not be able to answer your question correctly because your situation can be likened to a person who enters a house without being invited, begins to work as a house servant without being employed and got "insulted" by a servant in the house. The first instinct is to walk away afterall your were not employed there but if you were employed your first response will be to report to the house owner. If you had a relationship the Jesus Christ you would have been praying to God already concerning the matter. There is much to say but I normally like my responses to be brief. |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by Eagba(m): 12:52pm On May 25, 2018 |
Headlesschicken:which one be mushroom churches and which one is your church? |
Re: Judgement Is About To Be Passed On Me Tomorrow,please Advise Me On What To Do by JONNYSPUTE(m): 1:13pm On May 25, 2018 |
UnknownQueen:. .The guy was right . You ve already made up your mind to be rebellious and that's why you ve refused to listen to the people asking you to just say you are sorry and allow the matter close instantly,rather you prefer does ones asking you not to humble yourself. Let's see if they will be there if this small issue breaks your matrimonial home. Keep listening to wrong advice. Finally,check urself to know why you heart is with so much bitterness and hatred,I doubt your husband due to his awkward religious belief, gives you enough sex. Yes I said it,you are not a happy woman,sort it out with your husband and stop washing ur dirty linings in the public. |
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