BluntTheApostle:


Which prophets did God choose in the New Testament?

BluntTheApostle:


And Paul's rejection is not an extension of Jewish rejection of Jesus.

Jewish Christians were wary of Paul. They believed in Jesus but distrusted Paul.

How about that?

ikennaf1:


Accept my challenge.. Yahweh means God in Jewish culture. if Allah means God as you claim, then make the declaration... I believe that there is no god but/except Yahweh. if you don't do it then you are the one without an iota of truth.

ikennaf1:


Accept my challenge.. Yahweh means God in Jewish culture. if Allah means God as you claim, then make the declaration... I believe that there is no god but/except Yahweh. if you don't do it then you are the one without an iota of truth.

Kaysalas:

Don't waste your time, he will never do such. Islam is like anti thesis of the Christian faith.

Afamed:

You didn't believe , there is no other god than Allah/ God but you want me to believe yours?

Kaysalas:

Don't waste your time, he will never do such. Islam is like anti thesis of the Christian faith.

ikennaf1:


Aha now we're on the same page. you have directly but stubbornly admitted my submission (the truth). now kindly remove the "/God" (taqqiyya) in your above statement. Thank you.

Afamed:

Set of hypocrate, he did not believe mine and you want me to believe his. Isn't that double standard?

Kaysalas:



I am wary of arguments that tend to digress from the initial bone of contention. If we aren't careful, we will come back and ask ourselves;what were we arguing about in the first place. All these points you are raising, I see no point in disputing them with you, what I have also noticed is how you have carefully side stepped my initial stance that we do not worship the same God as Yahweh can only be assessed through Jesus Christ in this age. No other name, no other way. Acts 4:12, John 14:6. All these points about Paul do not correlate here.
Pls give me counter arguments concerning Jehovah raising prophets outside of his adopted people, give me an example of such non Jewish prophet in the old testament. As per your question ; which prophet in the new testament? ....are you for real? If you know that the meaning of that "office" is simply one who relates God's mind to men, then you will know that the early disciples and apostles represent that office in the new testament.
Now kindly let us address real issues here. Yahweh did not and does not appoint prophets outside of His adopted people, so Mohammed in not a prophet of the Almighty God. True or false. If false, give me examples of such strange prophets. Kindly let us have a healthy open minded discussion devoid of sentiments here(if you can)
Good morning

BluntTheApostle:


My brother, you are not God. He chose prophets from among His adopted people but we all know how Paul came about his own mission. Christ was sent exclusively to God's adopted people but Paul came after Christ and talked about being privately commissioned to take the gospel to the Gentiles as well. Perhaps, Mohammed had his own commission too.

Let me ask you a question: "what makes you think Christianity is more authentic than Islam? Or let me rephrase: what makes you think that God (Christian) is more authentic than Allah (Muslims). What proofs do you have outside the Bible of the authenticity the Bible tales?

Kaysalas:

You can't even spell the word correctly and you are quick to use it on people...yeah ryt..., I know you will claim TYPO!
He can't believe yours because in the face of evidence, you are not serving the living God but something else. In fact, you worship the moon.
Ever wondered why...
you wait to sight the moon before commencing Ramadan?
Why the crescent (half moon) is an essential symbol of your worship?
Why you go kiss a meteorite in that big black house in mecca during pilgrimage?
Think mY friend...! Think!

Afamed:

Islam has said much about people like you. On the day of Judgement, even Jesus Christ ( May the peace of Allah/God continue to be with him). He will deny you. My Religion has informed me not to involve in Religion banter with other faiths, hence I will not say what I don't have knowledge about your religion. You can continue to sleep in your ignorance .

Kaysalas:

You never shy away from displaying your ignorance on public forums. On what basis is the first bolded part? Secondly, so because I am pointing you to the truth you are ignorant of, now means I am engaging in religious banter ryt?
And stop peddling lies
What your religion told you to do is to kill other people who do not believe in your god and not avoiding religious banter.
Make I quote Quran for you on this?

"Religious banter" coming from someone who called another an hypoCRATE! bro, abeg, park well

Kaysalas:

You never shy away from displaying your ignorance on public forums. On what basis is the first bolded part? Secondly, so because I am pointing you to the truth you are ignorant of, now means I am engaging in religious banter ryt?
And stop peddling lies
What your religion told you to do is to kill other people who do not believe in your god and not avoiding religious banter.
Make I quote Quran for you on this?

"Religious banter" coming from someone who called another an hypoCRATE! bro, abeg, park well

Afamed:

Quote the Qur'an where it is stated but don't quote in isolation of the preceding verse.I had long known people like you.

Kaysalas:
^^^ @afamed, when you av tried explaining that bit away, kindly do a further finding of your religion of "peace" and tell me what Naskh, the law of abrogation means. Back it up with a Surah chapter and verse if you can please. Let us enlighten ourselves

Kaysalas:

Believe me when I tell you your likes have been shamed severally here on NL. I WILL quote your Quran , the preceding and the main one, then as usual wait for you to explain it away.
Quran 47:1-35. Pay particular attention to verse 3,4 and 20 in the context of the whole chapter. I am waiting for you to come and give me another excuse(note I did not quote in isolation of the verse preceding it!)
Oya , I dey wait

Afamed:

Yet you haven't asked any question. And what have you found doubting / wanting in those verses?

Kaysalas:

Are you for real? You told us here, ur religion tells u to avoid religious banter, I countered that by saying what it told u is to kill and maim other people in a different faith. You asked me to quote a portion to back up my claim, without ignoring the preceding verses, I did just that. And now, you are asking me, what my question is? Or what I find wanting in the text?
Are you trying to be clever by half here?
O.k lemme assume you still don't get it;
Your religion tells you to kill and maim other people. WHY ?
I asked you to tell us what NASKH means, and you are still asking me what my question is? Bro. Kindly let's address issues here and stop beating abt the bush or we go and do other things Abeg.

Kaysalas:

Are you for real? You told us here, ur religion tells u to avoid religious banter, I countered that by saying what it told u is to kill and maim other people in a different faith. You asked me to quote a portion to back up my claim, without ignoring the preceding verses, I did just that. And now, you are asking me, what my question is? Or what I find wanting in the text?
Are you trying to be clever by half here?
O.k lemme assume you still don't get it;
Your religion tells you to kill and maim other people. WHY ?
I asked you to tell us what NASKH means, and you are still asking me what my question is? Bro. Kindly let's address issues here and stop beating abt the bush or we go and do other things Abeg.

Pentools:
Warmth greetings to us Nairaland family..
Happy Ramadan fasting to our Muslim brothers.
Quickly I want to ask, how right or rather proper for a non-muslim, particularly Christians to accept food/meat gift from our Muslim brothers, especially the ones used in breaking the fast..
My Muslim close associates have been gifting that persuasively and it now looks discriminatory to them, I'm a Christian by the way and they are well informed on that.

However this thread is never for religious warring or insults from anyone/religion against another, it's for better interreligious knowledge and information.

Afamed:

Mathew 10 . 34- 36. Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I didn't come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her Mother in law and a man enemies will be the member of his own household. Do we now as a Muslims conclude that the messages he brought to Christians are violence and disruptive messages. Definitely No. You can only understand the above message beyond its literal meaning if you read the preceding verses and chapters further. But if people like as you have clearly demonstrated in your previous attitude had seen this from the Qur'an , definitely your conclusion would have been the messages in Qur'an are distrutive. Read Qur'an with the mindset of assimilation and understand don't just read with the primary aim of picking or lifting from it.

Afamed:

When I said I had long known people like you, I expected you to have decoded my message and retrace your steps. But here you still fall into my traps. (1) Does the Qur'an say Muslim should kill other faiths just for the purpose of killing as you have pointed out here? (2) Your assertion that Muslim should kill other faiths as you have proclaimed here is not new to most of the Muslim community as those are the messages you people spread around to blackmail yourself not Islam, hence your ideology, message and deception are similar to that of Sheka/ the Boko Haram leader because that was the similar message he used to brainwashed his followers too. (3) The reading and understanding of Quran is not for Tom and Dick like you and your cohorts . Qur'an is simply for the Pious ones. Now let me now answer your question using Bible quotation. Luke 19 -27. " But those enemy of mine who did not want me to be king over them bring them here and kill them in front of me. From the quotation, does it literally mean Bible say the Christians should kill their perceived enemies ? Definitely no, it now depends on mischievous people to be spreading the message of killing the enemy in the Bible just like you have just done that Qur'an said Muslim should kill other faiths. You simply can't quote a Bible or Quaran in isolation of their preceding chapter or verses just to justify your mischievous claims. The day of Judgement my Qur'an has made me to understand, there are set of people who will definitely suffer a great loss and regrets. These are the set of people who distort, substrate or add to the original message passed by Allah / God. Just like you have been doing to confuse people that in Islam Allah/ God means god/ idol .It's still early for you to retrace your steps. As it's more rewarding to keep ones mouth closed rather than saying what you don't know about. Ma Sallam, May the peace of God/ Allah be with you.

Kaysalas:

Frankly you are very ignorant about the bible
Luke 9:27 is the end of a PARABLE which starts from verse 11.
So, you picking it, and telling me, you didn't consider it violent, even though that is what it portrays, is just as I said earlier, you being mischevious. You are very funny you know, you ask me not to quote in isolation of preceding verses, and now, you are trying to twist yourself into a maze by doing just that.
And Yes, your religion is a worship of the moon god, if not, kindly address this questions;
Why do you wait to sight the moon before Ramadan?
Why is the crescent an essential symbol of your religion?
Why do you go to the big black house in mecca(ka'aba, I think), to go kiss a meteorite?

Afamed:

Like different people have quoted you severally in different threads on NL. Your problem is you don't read to understand, you primarily read to argue. You can continue to sleep in your ignorance.

skmrwealth:



Father Lord, thank you for provision of this food, thank you for source of this food. This food is blessed and sanctified for my sake. I eat the food to be a blessing for my biological system. To be an advantage to my blood and body. In Jesus name I pray. Amen.

Kaysalas:


Shey I told you, I know how to deal with you...now you wan run abi?
My penultimate post had a warning for you not to run away, I just saw it registered on the thread, then I saw this your new post.(couldn't help but smirk)
The only ignorant one here is you, and unlike the other guy, blunttheapostle, and unfortunately for you, you have refused to weigh the veracity of these claims to find out what is true and what is not, what is kind, and what is cruel, blunt the apostle, quietly bowed out with an open mind, but you want to run away in your stubbornness, all I ask is that you open your eyes, don't be lost in eternity, to a lie you had the power to dispel, even though you were born into it. Reason my friend, think!

Kaysalas:

Frankly you are very ignorant about the bible
Luke 9:27 is the end of a PARABLE which starts from verse 11.
So, you picking it, and telling me, you didn't consider it violent, even though that is what it portrays, is just as I said earlier, you being mischevious. You are very funny you know, you ask me not to quote in isolation of preceding verses, and now, you are trying to twist yourself into a maze by doing just that.
And Yes, your religion is a worship of the moon god, if not, kindly address this questions;
Why do you wait to sight the moon before Ramadan?
Why is the crescent an essential symbol of your religion?
Why do you go to the big black house in mecca(ka'aba, I think), to go kiss a meteorite?

Afamed:

You deserve no attention. Since I have sampled you and come to conclusion .Your ideology is that of Boko Haram . Continue to pass your false information. On the day of Judgement, your mouth shall speak against you for distorting the fact just to achieve your mischievous intention.