TonyeBarcanista:

Winning World Cup doesn't makes one great, contributions to the tournament do.

Spain won the WC in 2010 but Forlan whose country came 4th won the Best Player of the tournament award and Messi whose country crashed in Quarter final won the Player of the year.

Greece won Euro Cup in 2004 yet not a single one of them were contenders for European best or World best. Nedved, whose country crashed out in the Semis won European Best that year and Ronaldinho world best.

Performance of individuals makes a player great.

I think iniesta deserved to win that years ballon d or but I agree with the point you raised

chukzyfcbb:


you may have a point tho, but then we can also argue that the defenders of yesteryears was more brutal and rugged than defender of today.

How many quality defenders can you call now. Trying to score 30goals in series A in those days was a big fit, the likes of nesta maldini, Lucio will cripple ya legs! Now higuain is doing it like its no mans business.



Ronaldo de Lima tried to do, and he was sentenced to a long term injury. You may say attackers got better, but I can say defenders got weaker.

football now is not as strong as before when you talk defensively..there is much emphasis on attack. Currently in the world only two worthy defenders still exist. Ramos and Terry.rest are bunch of inconsistencies. If Ronaldo lima nd co play in this generation they will do the same as Messi and ronaldo

izzou:


What wing does Markarfi play?

Shengbele

Watch Ronaldo de Lima in the 2006 world cup I think.

See the way he destroyed the Ghanaian goal keeper with just a simple elegant step overs 1-2-3.

When you watch such beauty from the undisputed world best of that era, then you know how mechanical and boringly Scientific ,football has become nowadays.

LordAdamX:


CR7 and Messi played with peak Kaka, Rivaldo, Ronaldiinho, Robinho, Raul, Henry, Ibrahimovich, Figo, Raul.

And we have their own A-list--Neymar, Hazard, Griezmann, Dembele, Mbappe, Iniesta, Isco, Xavi, Ribery, Schweinsteiger...

The difference is that unlike then, CR7 and Messi have longevity. If El Fenemeno didn't have his injury, he'd have had at least 5 Ballon D'Ors. If CR7 and Messi were playing with any of the other greats, they'd all share the Ballon D'Ors. So it'll be a three-way or four-way street instead of the two-way street that it is now.

CR7 and Messi play like gods every season (except a season when either has an injury which is rare). Now whoever wins the most prestigious trophies get the Ballon D'Or. It'd have been the same if El Fenemeno or Pele or Maradona was competing now.

Football didn't go down, you couldn't have asked for a better rivalry than CR7 and Messi in modern times. Heck Pele and Maradona didn't play at the same time, yet see how tumultuous their rivalry is. CR7 and Messi have been very professional about theirs even though they take each others Ballon D'Or. Both are breaking records every match they play in. It's unreal.

-Lord

cr7 and messi are physically better players than Maradona and Pele...todays footballers are faster, stronger, more adept at reading the game and have better nutrition and physios..today's footballer is all round better than players in the 60s, 70s and 80s..even slightly better than those in the 90s..

chukzyfcbb:


you may have a point tho, but then we can also argue that the defenders of yesteryears was more brutal and rugged than defender of today.

How many quality defenders can you call now. Trying to score 30goals in series A in those days was a big fit, the likes of nesta maldini, Lucio will cripple ya legs! Now higuain is doing it like its no mans business.



Ronaldo de Lima tried to do, and he was sentenced to a long term injury. You may say attackers got better, but I can say defenders got weaker.

this is a big misconception..we always think that the yesteryears were better in all aspects of life..but the truth is that today's defenders are quicker and stronger than those in the past..guys like Ronaldo will run circles round defenders 20 years ago.

sharpwriter:
I hope it won't be Onazi

my brother you are saying my mind

Watch the highlights -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrPopX0OFuQ

LordAdamX:


CR7 and Messi played with peak Kaka, Rivaldo, Ronaldiinho, Robinho, Raul, Henry, Ibrahimovich, Figo, Raul.

And we have their own A-list--Neymar, Hazard, Griezmann, Dembele, Mbappe, Iniesta, Isco, Xavi, Ribery, Schweinsteiger...

The difference is that unlike then, CR7 and Messi have longevity. If El Fenemeno didn't have his injury, he'd have had at least 5 Ballon D'Ors. If CR7 and Messi were playing with any of the other greats, they'd all share the Ballon D'Ors. So it'll be a three-way or four-way street instead of the two-way street that it is now.

CR7 and Messi play like gods every season (except a season when either has an injury which is rare). Now whoever wins the most prestigious trophies get the Ballon D'Or. It'd have been the same if El Fenemeno or Pele or Maradona was competing now.

Football didn't go down, you couldn't have asked for a better rivalry than CR7 and Messi in modern times. Heck Pele and Maradona didn't play at the same time, yet see how tumultuous their rivalry is. CR7 and Messi have been very professional about theirs even though they take each others Ballon D'Or. Both are breaking records every match they play in. It's unreal.

-Lord

Ronaldo and Messi are at the highest peak of human level. Most humans don't achieve their peak, highest level of IQ and most use of talent.

But these two are at peak of human capacity. They can't be gods. We are only regular humans while they are peak humans. Humans don't use 40percent of their brain or talent.

Ronaldo and Messi use about 80percent. Extra ordinary thing to do.

ADENIKETINA2015:



Shengbele

We go fit play this iceland so

seunny4lif:
I tell you

his learning from his mentor

Full hightlight and goals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1vng_7JxdA

Aguero WTF!!

FoolishBoy419:


Messi and ronaldo dominating the likes of pele? I dont think so. They can at best be put on the same level

Let's agree to disagree brother

jtwest:

Footy has changed from technicality and skills, to speed and stamina, you can see that ronaldo's skill has reduced sef

there are still a lot of skillful players in this gen na... Omo CR7 no send skills again ooo ( more than 5yrs now) who skills help

Sirfeeking:



Though I'm a big fan of Messi and CR7 but the bolded is a lie.The guy you quoted has said it all.

let's agree to disagree brother

Kenturkey048:
messi and c.ronaldo played handball

You are too daft to comprehend

Naijal:


check nairatv website.
Thank me later

Thank you!!!

Sirfeeking:



Though I'm a big fan of Messi and CR7 but the bolded is a lie.The guy you quoted has said it all.

Guy STP saying they wudnt be dominant, do u know DAT in other sport that is measurable like swimming nd races modern athletes keep breaking previous ones, why u dey underrate them na bcuz dey never bcom history, just wait till u tell or children abt Messi nd ronaldo. Meanwhile enjoy them while they last shall

AkpaMgbor:

cr7 and messi are physically better players than Maradona and Pele...todays footballers are faster, stronger, more adept at reading the game and have better nutrition and physios..today's footballer is all round better than players in the 60s, 70s and 80s..even slightly better than those in the 90s..

I no even reach una place b4 I reply DAT guy, dem dey think say bcuz those ones played in in the 60's nd 80's it means they are better

TonyeBarcanista:

What did they win? How many goals did they score combined?

FACT is this present RM squad beat those you mentioned.

I love Zoozoo, Figo (his wonders in Euro 2000) and Makalele (the most underrated DM as at then) but them no reach boys of today biko

I forgot to mention David Beckham.

Win then?

When football was real war?

MrDojo:


there are still a lot of skillful players in this gen na... Omo CR7 no send skills again ooo ( more than 5yrs now) who skills help

My point exactly but if u look at the likes of zidane, okocha, ronaldinho, pirlo, ibrahimovich even iniesta and others, they do not run fast but however u want to be dribbled they will serve you .
I think people that recognize talents have shifted focus, look at sane,sterling, bale, salah, rashford and others, so much speed but can u classify them with likes of raul, figo, henry? U av to agree the standard of the game has reduced.

safarigirl:
not totally

Messi and CR7 are dominating in a time of offside calls and many more changes to football. Most of these old time players may have had fancy foot work, but add all the little rules developed over time and you will see that they may not have scored as much goals or dominated as much.

And now that you add things like VAR and goal like technology, you find that football is a lot more difficult than it used to be

You really made a good point but let me ask you a question;let's imagine David Beckham,Luis Figo,Cristiano Ronaldo,Rivaldo,Zidane,Messi,Nedved,York,Cantona,Ronaldinho,Bergkamp etc are all playing for two different clubs at the same era.Do you think Messi and Cristiano could dominate for so long as they are currently doing.

ovcwality:

Guy STP saying they wudnt be dominant, do u know DAT in other sport that is measurable like swimming nd races modern athletes keep breaking previous ones, why u dey underrate them na bcuz dey never bcom history, just wait till u tell or children abt Messi nd ronaldo. Meanwhile enjoy them while they last shall

Ok noted

oshe11:
You are too daft to comprehend

okay..thanks.

olaniputu:
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you don't know anything about football
that Messi and Ronaldo are great doesn't mean there are no world class players
do you know that[s] this generation has more talented footballers than those players you mentioned[/s].
the reason it doesn't seem so to you because you're privileged to be watching them weekly
next generation will count football stars of our generation and tire

kiss the truth

TonyeBarcanista go to politics section

This generation has more average players. This is just a fact. I don`t need to say much cos i no get power for argument.

[s]

blizzers:


This generation has more average players. This is just a fact. I don`t need to say much cos i no get power for argument.

[/s]
because you know you're talking claptrap

TonyeBarcanista:

Perhaps Maradona but others, FALSE.

Messi and C. Ronaldo played in the "days' of Ronaldinho and partly Zidane and Ronaldo and both of them shone.

You forget that Ronaldo and Messi trailed Kaka in Fifa award in 2007 and they started winning since 2008 (when Ronaldinho) was still at his peak in Barca.

Frank Ribery, Wesley Sneider, Zlantan Ibrahimnovic, Thierry Henry, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquet, Alonso, Aguero, Lahm, Schweinstiger etc are all in the same league with Ronaldo, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Kaka and Rivaldo but Messi and Cristiano are just so classy that these greats were outshined.

Only Maradona that would have given those two guys a great challenge.

Zidane and ribery and other in the same class? SMH. Perhaps you forgotten so soon how good Zidane was. Your opinion though. Noted

olaniputu:
[s][/s]
because you know you're talking claptrap

Thanks. You try