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Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Amarabae(f): 8:04am On Jun 21, 2018
EVILFOREST:

I talk about them.
In fact just talked about them in my recent write ups.
Check well again....
OK I sympathize with them.
They deserve the best
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by shekauvsbuhari: 8:04am On Jun 21, 2018
Colourich:
I doubt, more doctors will always flood the Nigeria labour market. The demand for labour will always be below the supply for labour as far as many Nigerians see investment in human capital as a way of alleviating future poverty. So there ain't no fear.
Are U serious @ all? We are talking of medical graduates here not graduates of bus.Admin, arabic studies, public admin and accountancy. Usual nigeria way of thinking that makes them not to plan ahead and then ends up with calamitous crisis. Keep on consoling urself.
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 8:05am On Jun 21, 2018
bidemi1190:
bros you have said it all. Its not all about passing but matching for residency. Very very difficult, the only chance is if you school there and medicine in US and UK is mostly 8 to 9yrs. 4 yrs for undergrad and 4 to 5 yrs for med sch. How many nigerians fit afford $65000 to $100000 in tuition[i].
When they replicate this in Nigeria they begin to stereotype private universities

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Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by 3kay945(m): 8:10am On Jun 21, 2018
Colourich:
I doubt, more doctors will always flood the Nigeria labour market. The demand for labour will always be below the supply for labour as far as many Nigerians see investment in human capital as a way of alleviating future poverty. So there ain't no fear.

Are you a doctor

If not, I will tell you that a big problem is coming as the writer has said. We will only be left with fairly good ones while the better ones are leaving very fast.

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Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by OEChika: 8:15am On Jun 21, 2018
Follygunners:


That's is one of my points... the regressive mentality of religion has eaten away the little common sense left in most of us. Everything is religion this, God that... No one accepts responsibility for their actions.

We have an insensitive way of rubbing things in other pple's face in the name of "praising" or "thanking" God.
Can't we do it in a more subtle way to avoid coming across as negative?

So many pple die daily, falls sick and stuff way beyond their control... yet they worship this same God. So, are they abandoned by God or just another random misfortune that could befall any one? undecided

The thing is, Nigeria is NOT the only nation (not even among saints) that praises God but, others do it with true Godliness while being sensitive of other pple's predicaments or demise. undecided Till you're personally affected, you'll never understand.

Again, there're more than BILLION things wrong with this nation, I swear! angry Of course, 90% of my points, you will never understand. Sad.





Lol I might not understand.... I give up then

Good morning
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by mikaj(m): 8:20am On Jun 21, 2018
Kabaka100:


Can u give me a rough estimate please

Btw 15-30mil yearly.

Ps: By experience. It can go above that or below.
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by MrCork: 8:22am On Jun 21, 2018
funmisticqueen:
most of them plan never to come back and the ones that do is only 10%.


^^^^gold digger ((guys be where )) angry

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Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Splashme: 8:26am On Jun 21, 2018
omocalabar:
I thought Buhari said Nigerians abroad are looking for ways to come back Having a multiple-personality disorder patient as president sucks embarassed lipsrsealed embarassed

Buhari lies alot
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 8:27am On Jun 21, 2018
passionate87:

bro the PLAB exam is the surest for Nigerian doctors and that's what most of us write now, 4 of my colleagues are already there and me and other colleagues are planning to go to uk.America route is quite difficult to embark as a doctor because it is expensive but PLAB exam is quite affordable.
Guy u are not looking at the big picture,the implications of the matured doctors leaving would leave a lacunae in the health sector because medical practices comes with experience,which u learn from older colleagues.
even those yet to graduate from medical school are already preparing to leave immediately they graduate,do their horsemanship and NYSC
You have a point
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Amarabae(f): 8:32am On Jun 21, 2018
[b]in Nigeria, a fresh medical graduate earns more than a government teacher with up to 15years experience.
Yet they want more pay,
They want to be paid in millions of naira as if they are the only profession in the country.
How can they be comparing what foreign countries pay their doctors to what Nigeria pay, have they considered the economy of both.
Doctors in Nigeria are paid well when compared to other professions,
They should stop being greedy.
If you want to leave, you leave and stop trying to blackmail the federal government.
You are not the only profession being sought after abroad, There are high shortage of nurses abroad,
Nurses are sought after,
Physiotherapists are sought after
As long as a person is a graduate and leave the country, you will find a job abroad.
So stop the leaving noise.
Soldiers are risking their lives everyday yet are paid peanut
Same with police officers
What about teachers
Ministry civil servants etc
Yet you want government to pay you millions a month for treating malaria and typhoid[/b]

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Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 8:33am On Jun 21, 2018
divinelove:


Point of correction doctors are well paid relative to other FG workers, they are just greedy ppl.

A newly employed medical doctor with FG earns about 260k and a fresh PhD lecturer earn 140k

Medical doctor spend 7 years in uni
To earn PhD you spend 10 to 13 yrs in uni

U can see d injustice

Lecturers trained medical doctors don't forget dt
Exactly, Are you a lecturer?
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by MrBigiman: 8:35am On Jun 21, 2018
Amarabae:

She was the one that said we are fighting doctors,
So I corrected her.
Her comment has some condensing undertone to johesu professions,
Respect others if you want to be respected.
No profession is inferior or superior to others,
Be you a teacher, lawyer, pharmacist etc
We are unique in our own ways.
So read up her comment that I replied then you will understand why I made that comment.
And yes nurses are far more sought after abroad than lawyers.
Burn If you want.

.
I don't care the gibberish you wrote up there,
It's none of my business.
You are not the only profession sought after abroad,
Simple
If it pains you, then hug a transformer.
.
I know that Nigeria Medical association is still pained over graduate nursing programs
We are advancing
Very soon, school of nursing will be a thing of the past.
Medicine is a noble profession, stay in your lane and leave others to advance in their professions..

Doctor Bigi grin grin

Mr name is MrBigiman, and it clear for all to see. Thanks.
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 8:38am On Jun 21, 2018
Amarabae:
Nobody talks about teachers cry cry cry
They sacrifice a lot yet paid peanut.
The noble profession is now neglected.
And a fresh nwa dokinta fresh from the University is earning higher than a government teacher with over 20years service years yet the nwa dokintas want to be pay more!
Greediness.
Leave if you want to leave!
So now you accept teaching is a noble profession, I can remember the day you were mocking teachers and how nurses are better than them, you will say anything to bring down other profession if and when it suits you especially in the case of doctors.
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Amarabae(f): 8:42am On Jun 21, 2018
Colourich:
So now you accept teaching is a noble profession, I can remember the day you were mocking teachers and how nurses are better than them, you will say anything to bring down other profession if and when it suits you especially in the case of doctors.
Stop lying.
I never said anything like that.
Talk like an adult and drop your childish lies.
Teaching is a respected noble profession that is neglected by the government.
.
I respect all professions.
But I attack you if you insult my profession ,
The so called "aunty agric engineer " was insulting johesu professions ,
So I put her in her place with the bitter truth.
Respect is mutual.
Simple and have a nice day
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by bankyman(m): 8:44am On Jun 21, 2018
rentAcock:
Na so. They think it is that easy. All the gra gra of getting a visa alone will discourage many. How about my church member who was a doctor in Nigeria? The guy sold his house and traveled to the US with his family over 16 years ago, only to hear that he has given up on his dream of practicing as a medical doctor in the states and has settled for menial jobs like nursing assistant. People are lured by the nice salary doctors earn overseas like how some doctors earn over $200,000 a year and with specialty that number balloons to over $300,000. What they don't realize is how difficult it is to get residency. So many American trained medical students are even finding it difficult to get residency let alone foreigners. Moreover, they sometimes require them to take some other exams or fufill a course requirement which many fail to accomplish.

If these doctors are threatening to leave the country, they should let them, after all, there are many students praying to gain admission for medicine to replace them.
Clapp for yourself, I guess you are one of those clamoring for the replacement of qualified and experience doctors to be replaced by fresh doctors anyway i dont pray you fall victim of your crass
ignorance.
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by MrBigiman: 8:46am On Jun 21, 2018
Colourich:
So now you accept teaching is a noble profession, I can remember the day you were mocking teachers and how nurses are better than them, you will say anything to bring down other profession if and when it suits you especially in the case of doctors.

She has a really ugly heart. I also saw that post, and the post against consultant physicians, and the post against engineers, and against those studying agriculture and lawyers. Her vocal eruptions and indescresions are endless and I wonder if she is really ok.

Teachers aren't paid well, and aren't motivated, and as long as that is, examination malpractice and our academic indices will dwindle. And whoever wants to speak for teachers can, but not the double mouthed amaraebae or amara oriaku.
She only cuts out of her megalomania and fellowships with other professions when she wants to belittle the effort or significance of Doctors in the Society. Today it's comparing Doctors with teachers and lecturers, forgetting that there are Doctors who are also teachers and lecturers, contributing immensely to society than any other person.

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Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 8:49am On Jun 21, 2018
MrBigiman:


She has a really ugly heart. I also saw that post, and the post against consultant physicians, and the post against engineers, and against those studying agriculture and lawyers. Her vocal eruptions and indescresions are endless and I wonder if she is really ok.

Teachers aren't paid well, and aren't motivated, and as long as that is, examination malpractice and our academic indices will dwindle. And whoever wants to speak for teachers can, but not the double mouthed amaraebae or amara oriaku.
She only cuts out of her megalomania and fellowships with other professions when she wants to belittle the effort or significance of Doctors in the Society. Today it's comparing Doctors with teachers and lecturers, forgetting that there are Doctors who are also teachers and lecturers, contributing immensely to society than any other person.
True.
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Amarabae(f): 8:50am On Jun 21, 2018
MrBigiman:


She has a really ugly heart. I also saw that post, and the post against consultant physicians, and the post against engineers, and against those studying agriculture and lawyers. Her vocal eruptions and indescresions are endless and I wonder if she is really ok.

Teachers aren't paid well, and aren't motivated, and as long as that is, examination malpractice and our academic indices will dwindle. And whoever wants to speak for teachers can, but not the double mouthed amaraebae or amara oriaku.
She only cuts out of her megalomania and fellowships with other professions when she wants to belittle the effort or significance of Doctors in the Society. Today it's comparing Doctors with teachers and lecturers, forgetting that there are Doctors who are also teachers and lecturers, contributing immensely to society than any other person.
The comparison is very right.
Why should a fresh medical graduate earn higher than a teacher with up to 15years experience?
Answer me!
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Dammylois(f): 8:51am On Jun 21, 2018
soldier go soldier come......Everyone deserves a shot at better life
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Britishcoins(m): 8:53am On Jun 21, 2018
Follygunners:


Why are we soo gullible and ignorant in Nigeria? Why are we the way we are?

Cuz you didn't visit the hospital for the past 21yrs doesn't mean you won't be visiting one tomorrow or in the near future.. change ur mindset, FOOL!

Just imagine what you just wrote... what if a mishap or accident (road accident, violent attack, bodily injury et al...) happens to you nko? Or do you think the victims or patients in the hospital are sick pple or less fortunate than your foolish self? angry

This country is really in danger with the kind of citizens and this their regressive mentality. Nigeria is doomed, I swear!
I hail online E-warriors aka nairaland zombie, always differentiate between jokes and reality.
When has native doctors became surgical, midwives and nurses in health sectors.
Pls Channel ur great writing skills into the ministry it is needed.
E-Warriors tongue
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Bukunmi95: 8:54am On Jun 21, 2018
Shakushaku1:
Fuckin Snitch, doctors and loudmouth... Let them leave, who hold u when u left


Lol... bad belle grin
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by MrBigiman: 8:59am On Jun 21, 2018
Amarabae:

The comparison is very right.
Why should a fresh medical graduate earn higher than a teacher with over 15years experience?
Answer me!

Funny u. Pls the American bereau of employment ranking of profession by pay is an open source statistic. U could check professions and pay to enlighten urself. Also the British employment and pay statistic is also evident for all to see, try and read that up, at least u always threaten to run to UK.

That said, Doctors are first teachers before being physicians. Febrile convulsions are better aborted by short acting benzodiazepines, Rectal Diazepam is better given than IV, also if ur facility has Lorazepam, or if u write ur NMC and see Lorazepam and Diazepam, pls choose lorazepam, it's shorter acting, less respiratory depressing and is the drug of choice. This is a Doctor! A nurse can give diazepam, but when the patient starts asking, will my child overcome this convulsion, will it happen again, can it cause permanent brain damage, can it diminish my child's intelligence, will he need an EEG, what time is he likely to overcome it, what areas of the brain is affected?, the nurse quickly says, ask the Doctor, because the Doctors core job is teaching, Doctor comes from the Greek word Duceo, meaning to teach. So if I am both a teacher, and a physician, and paid as both. I should with all due respect be paid more. Half of the time I spend in the Clinic goes to teaching.

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Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Dextre(m): 9:10am On Jun 21, 2018
Britishcoins:
Let them go now, we have native doctors.
They will take over the mantle of health sectors.
On a serious note thanks almighty God for my health, I can't even remember when last I took injection.
Oh I remember that 21 years ago, during children immunizations.
Glory to God for my health..




Ignorance dey worry this one sha
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Amarabae(f): 9:14am On Jun 21, 2018
Britishcoins:
Let them go now, we have native doctors.
They will take over the mantle of health sectors.
On a serious note thanks almighty God for my health, I can't even remember when last I took injection.
Oh I remember that 21 years ago, during children immunizations.
Glory to God for my health..
you are funny.

Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by carrybreeze: 9:21am On Jun 21, 2018
missyadorable:
So after relocating to paradise ,you are writing epistles to discourage others from joining you.
Kolewerk!
PLAB, USMLE and other foreign exams on point.

Nigeria doesn't need medical doctors.
After all nobody even appreciates them.
Patients and other health workers including cleaners are fighting them.

I implore every medical doctor to gather resources and leave this country...
God bless you.
I am a lawyer and I am on my way out already.
See you in paradise

My person please which way u de follow leave this country make I joined u.
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 9:47am On Jun 21, 2018
rentAcock:
Na so. They think it is that easy. All the gra gra of getting a visa alone will discourage many. How about my church member who was a doctor in Nigeria? The guy sold his house and traveled to the US with his family over 16 years ago, only to hear that he has given up on his dream of practicing as a medical doctor in the states and has settled for menial jobs like nursing assistant. People are lured by the nice salary doctors earn overseas like how some doctors earn over $200,000 a year and with specialty that number balloons to over $300,000. What they don't realize is how difficult it is to get residency. So many American trained medical students are even finding it difficult to get residency let alone foreigners. Moreover, they sometimes require them to take some other exams or fufill a course requirement which many fail to accomplish.

If these doctors are threatening to leave the country, they should let them, after all, there are many students praying to gain admission for medicine to replace them.
thank u jare
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 10:05am On Jun 21, 2018
Lexusgs430:


Let me understand you, you get a Job in the abroad, you would be travelling home every weekend?

yap, what?, you gonna take responsibility for my flight tickets grin
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Licht: 10:06am On Jun 21, 2018
The fact is that the issue of workers in the health sector is being overemphasized. If we are to be sincere to ourselves, every profession is poorly remunerated in Nigeria. What of engineers, pharmacists, lawyers, accountants and the like? Don't they even face worse remuneration and working conditions than the medical doctors face?

In fact, medical doctors are even treated better than all other professions in Nigeria as they are the only ones that enter the civil service on grade level 12 as against level 8 used at which most other professions enter into the civil service.

The only thing is that medical doctors have the opportunity of being employed abroad which also comes with better working conditions. In essence, every facets of our National live are in near-tatters, and we should concentrate in changing all for the better.
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Lexusgs430: 10:20am On Jun 21, 2018
Licht:
The fact is that the issue of workers in the health sector is being overemphasized. If we are to be sincere to ourselves, every profession is poorly remunerated in Nigeria. What of engineers, pharmacists, lawyers, accountants and the like? Don't they even face worse remuneration and working conditions than the medical doctors face?

In fact, medical doctors are even treated better than all other professions in Nigeria as they are the only ones that enter the civil service on grade level 12 as against level 8 used at which most other professions enter into the civil service.

The only thing is that medical doctors have the opportunity of being employed abroad which also comes with better working conditions. In essence, every facets of our National live are in near-tatters, and we should concentrate in changing all for the better.

But you agree that if other professionals skills was facing a shortage, they would also migrate?

Some even migrate regardless, either retrain or change career path entirely......
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Lexusgs430: 10:22am On Jun 21, 2018
Jiang:


yap, what?, you gonna take responsibility for my flight tickets grin

Oga beht y me? No be you wan dey travel from the abroad to Nigeria every weekend?
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Litmus: 10:29am On Jun 21, 2018
If not for the name of the author, I would view this article in terms of False Flag. In any case, the author and those that audibly support this view are playing right into the hands of Ethnicists in British society, Ethnicists that if forced to say kind words about ethnic minorities in Britain would always default to Indians. It does appear that there will be a drive in Britain to employ doctors from the Commonwealth and elsewhere to plug the gap in NHS caused by Britain not investing enough in home-grown doctors, doctors already in the service leaving for better pay abroad or going private, European doctors returneing home etc. Indians in the NHS want nothing better than for the majority of doctors employed from abroad, to fill the vacancies, to be Indians. The bulk of doctors currently in the NHS are already of Indian decent and there is no doubt that the majority of doctors set for employment in this drive, will be from India. Yet the Indians in powerful positions in the NHS want ever more from India and perhaps to preempt controversy or raised brows that may arise from this lopsided employment, the device such as, 'ooh, poor third world nations need their doctors, let us not poach them!, Is forwarded for media distribution.

Nigerian doctors ought be let employed in NHS if Britain will have them and if they are willing to work abroad. Nigeria will benefit later from thire increased expertise and in the short term, their remittance.
Re: "Nigeria Is In Big Problem!" - Doctor Olufunmilayo Harvey by Nobody: 10:33am On Jun 21, 2018
Lexusgs430:


Oga beht y me? No be you wan dey travel from the abroad to Nigeria every weekend?

who knows you might be one multi billionaire who's looking for ways to spend money, lol just kidding
I just don't like leaving my roots

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