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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by DavSagacity(m): 1:39pm On Jun 25, 2018
paxonel:
this is no hatred my friend! The man is just giving wrong advice don't take it grin
And you are the least person I'll take advice from.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Geesaintagape: 1:39pm On Jun 25, 2018
What's the essence of life if its test throughout for those who failed to perish in hell.
How can a God of love to perish us in hell for failing life long test.
Facing test for 70 to 100yr only to go to hell for failing 1 unammended
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Edu3Again: 1:39pm On Jun 25, 2018
paxonel:
Big lie!!
where are scriptures?

This oyedepo sef grin grin

Na way to tell people say if them nor pay tithe them go miss heaven na him dey so grin
1 Corinthians 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.


1 Corinthians 9:27
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by aku626(m): 1:40pm On Jun 25, 2018
The wife came from God through Adam and Eve Cain had sisters as well as brothers. Gen 5:4 made that clear. Also I’ve noticed that the Bible was somewhat silent about female children in the Old Testament.
Regards his wife the Bible didn’t mention that he found his wife at Nod so most likely before Nod.
I appreciate your question and before answering I could tell where it might lead.
Dongreat:
Which bible? Same that was written by different set comprising of the catholic and gnostic and not some holy filled long beaded men. Same bible that the verses were cherry picked to favor the priest who feed fat on the sufferings of the mass. Same bible used to perpetuate genocide by the crusaders and their sin absorbed just by the wave of hands by the bishop whom were notorious for hoarding the golds and fine jewelries after the loots.

Now I have a question and if anybody can fully answer I will transfer 40k to your account and I am dead serious.

My question is in the bible, book of Genesis I think, it talked about Adam and Eve who bore only two sons named Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and after he was cursed and he went out as a destitute, right?
Then Cain went to the land of Nod and found a WOMAN and she bore him a son Enoch, right?

My question is if Adam and Eve the first and only people created by god only bore two sons then where did the WIFE of Cain at Nod came from?

Answer this question and I will send to your account 40K. Impress me more and I swear with my dad grave to increase the reward to 100k.

Ps: I already know the answer. The question is for the Christians only please. Atheists and Agnostics are exempted as they may already know the answer. Thank you.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 1:41pm On Jun 25, 2018
CodeTemplar:
If he does not preach outright salvation u guys complain now he is preaching it and you still twist it into tithe payment.
whether he is preaching salvation or not that is not the issue!
The issue is, he is saying what bible did not say grin grin grin

I catch am grin
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Fearcom(m): 1:44pm On Jun 25, 2018
BigSarah:
cheesy Only God knows how many times my name has been erased and rewritten
It doesn't matter, my dear.
what's important that in the end, it's there!!!

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Primesky(m): 1:44pm On Jun 25, 2018
That's the truth. A Christian can fall away from the faith.

Many Christians are being deceived already, and are not heaven bound in any way, despite receiving the gift of salvation at one point in the past.

That's why the scriptures (Bible) warned that he that thinketh he standeth should take heed lest he falls.

1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Ezekiel 33:13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.


Christians must be careful and watchful lest the enemy deceive them, and pull them out of the faith. Secure your salvation in Christ Jesus today.

Repent and be saved.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by CodeTemplar: 1:45pm On Jun 25, 2018
paxonel:
whether he is preaching salvation or not that is not the issue!
The issue is, he is saying what bible did not say grin grin grin

I catch am grin
Bible does not say everything but infer things. Thats why it was recorded that '' the dead should bury their dead".
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 1:46pm On Jun 25, 2018
Edu3Again:

1 Corinthians 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.


1 Corinthians 9:27
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
non of these scriptures are saying that Christians names are being removed every second from the book of life as insinuated by oyedepo grin grin grin

Oyedepo the tactics Maradona grin
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Dongreat(m): 1:46pm On Jun 25, 2018
aku626:
The wife came from God through Adam and Eve Cain had sisters as well as brothers. Gen 5:4 made that clear. Also I’ve noticed that the Bible was somewhat silent about female children in the Old Testament.
Regards his wife the Bible didn’t mention that he found his wife at Nod so most likely before Nod.
I appreciate your question and before answering I could tell where it might lead.

You tried answering and you even gave a verse which was impressive but you still didn’t get the answer.
Don’t worry either as I am not judging incest practice here which is highly forbidden.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Edu3Again: 1:49pm On Jun 25, 2018
paxonel:
non of these scriptures are saving that Christians names are being removed every second from the book of life as insinuated by oyedepo grin grin grin

Oyedepo the tactics Maradona grin
I don't know the frequency but it is possible
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Charly68: 1:50pm On Jun 25, 2018
God bless you Baba,only fools will be deceived by the end time message of once saved always saved ...mess up and be thrown overboard ...let everybody go & read the book of Revelations ,the letter to the seven churches .

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 1:53pm On Jun 25, 2018
Edu3Again:

I don't know the frequency but it is possible
it is not possible!
Scriptures assures that christ died for us once, and that's all.

The only condition that will make a christian lose his salvation is when he denounce his christian faith.

Denouncing christian faith does not happen in one second oyedepo himself knows that
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by DavSagacity(m): 2:12pm On Jun 25, 2018
Geesaintagape:
What's the essence of life if its test throughout for those who failed to perish in hell.
How can a God of love to perish us in hell for failing life long test.
Facing test for 70 to 100yr only to go to hell for failing 1 unammended
You are trying to make some sense here. can you please check this comment and edit it again.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Boss13: 2:22pm On Jun 25, 2018
Kennyxton:


Don't deceive yourself Senior*_ Pls without offence no Muslim can go to heaven unless they repent and come to the knowledge of Christ* This is a hard saying* No insult* No Offence* Peace

Na you hold the key? Heaven gateman!
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Boss13: 2:23pm On Jun 25, 2018
Charly68:
God bless you Baba,only fools will be deceived by the end time message of once saved always saved ...mess up and be thrown overboard ...let everybody go & read the book of Revelations ,the letter to the seven churches .

The same revelations that said only 122,000 are righteous.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by mercy87: 2:26pm On Jun 25, 2018
The Bible states that Adam had many other children. Gen 5:4. In those days women were not counted in Genealogy. If you check the genealogy Of Adam in Genesis 5 you will not You see any woman listed. It is possible that Adam had females children besides his sons Cain, Abel and Seth. But the females were not listed. Do you think those people That the genealogy listed, up to 10 generations only had male children? No. But then it was the custom to only list male children in genealogy. Again, when Cain married his wife it may not have been immediately Abel was killed. he must wandered a long time and by then Adam had other children because the Bible state that Adam had other children so he must have married Adam's daughter. Don't forget they did marry siblings and cousins then. Ignore the sequence of chapters please.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by mercy87: 2:28pm On Jun 25, 2018
Dongreat:
Which bible? Same that was written by different set comprising of the catholic and gnostic and not some holy filled long beaded men. Same bible that the verses were cherry picked to favor the priest who feed fat on the sufferings of the mass. Same bible used to perpetuate genocide by the crusaders and their sin absorbed just by the wave of hands by the bishop whom were notorious for hoarding the golds and fine jewelries after the loots.

Now I have a question and if anybody can fully answer I will transfer 40k to your account and I am dead serious.

My question is in the bible, book of Genesis I think, it talked about Adam and Eve who bore only two sons named Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and after he was cursed and he went out as a destitute, right?
Then Cain went to the land of Nod and found a WOMAN and she bore him a son Enoch, right?

My question is if Adam and Eve the first and only people created by god only bore two sons then where did the WIFE of Cain at Nod came from?

Answer this question and I will send to your account 40K. Impress me more and I swear with my dad grave to increase the reward to 100k.

Ps: I already know the answer. The question is for the Christians only please. Atheists and Agnostics are exempted as they may already know the answer. Thank you.


The Bible states that Adam had many other children. Gen 5:4. In those days women were not counted in Genealogy. If you check the genealogy Of Adam in Genesis 5 you will not You see any woman listed. It is possible that Adam had females children besides his sons Cain, Abel and Seth. But the females were not listed. Do you think those people That the genealogy listed, up to 10 generations only had male children? No. But then it was the custom to only list male children in genealogy. Again, when Cain married his wife it may not have been immediately Abel was killed. he must wandered a long time and by then Adam had other children because the Bible state that Adam had other children so he must have married Adam's daughter. Don't forget they did marry siblings and cousins then. Ignore the sequence of chapters please.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Sleekydee(m): 2:31pm On Jun 25, 2018
I dnt agree sir, God cannot save u to end up loosing u sir, that's man's thinking.... If God saves u and u wanna Bleep up the salvation, he would rather call u home before u lose it, once saved, u re saved for good...

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by skydeexie(m): 2:34pm On Jun 25, 2018
paxonel:
whether he is preaching salvation or not that is not the issue!
The issue is, he is saying what bible did not say grin grin grin

I catch am grin
Are you sure you catch am? Here are some verses to help you for a start. (Jokes apart)

Matthew 7:21-27 Revised Standard Version (RSV)

Concerning Self-Deception

21 “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.’

Hearers and Doers
24 “Every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock; 25 and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand; 27 and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it.”

Hebrews 6 Revised Standard Version (RSV)

The Peril of Falling Away

6 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 with instruction[a] about ablutions, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do if God permits. [b]4 For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they then commit apostasy, since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold him up to contempt. 7 For land which has drunk the rain that often falls upon it, and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. 8 But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed; its end is to be burned.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by skydeexie(m): 2:42pm On Jun 25, 2018
Sleekydee:
I dnt agree sir, God cannot save u to end up loosing u sir, that's man's thinking.... If God saves u and u wanna Bleep up the salvation, he would rather call u home before u lose it, once saved, u re saved for good...

Sorry to punch that over-bloated balloon of heresy of, "Once saved always saved". The Bible which is our main source is replete with series of warnings on the contrary. Here is just one example: Hebrews 6:4-5.

4 For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they then commit apostasy, since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold him up to contempt. 7 For land which has drunk the rain that often falls upon it, and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. 8 But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed; its end is to be burned.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Jethrolite(m): 2:45pm On Jun 25, 2018
This Oyedepo is a lying devil.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Kennyxton: 2:48pm On Jun 25, 2018
ollah2:



Yayyy!! The heaven is made for Christians alone cos it was created by a christian God. So the billions non Christians are hell bound. Wow!! Your brain is pretty dead


Yea: Dead brain I am° ETERNITY WILL TELL° Avoid it now you can
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Kennyxton: 2:52pm On Jun 25, 2018
Boss13:


Has he gone to heaven before? How come he possess this information? So pencil manufacturers on earth have started exporting services and now export pencils to heaven. These men sha! Na Nigerians dey make dem relevant.

Have you gone to space before or any other planet to know that they exist? So many things in this world you know not* No offence•

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know [them,] because they are spiritually discerned.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by soso101: 3:10pm On Jun 25, 2018
loveformercy:
Oyedepo is 200% right...All these please ooh you can "continue in sin that grace may abound" messages from grace preachers will make you take sin lightly; fornicate & shout grace, do ashawo & shout grace, masturbate & shout grace, collect bribe & shout grace, sleep with your fiance & shout grace...

Romans 6:1-4 "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!"

He that committed sin is of the devil. If you die in sin right now, you are going to hell fire life. You think God is your tom boy where you will sin anyhow & use praises to cover it up...

If you sin without repenting immediately, you are heading to hell

You are right, if u miss heaven, ur quote of today will stand against u in judgement.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 3:16pm On Jun 25, 2018
skydeexie:
Are you sure you catch am? Here are some verses to help you for a start. (Jokes apart)

Matthew 7:21-27 Revised Standard Version (RSV)

Concerning Self-Deception

21 “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.’

Hearers and Doers
24 “Every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock; 25 and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand; 27 and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it.”
all those scriptures you just quoted did not specify that they are referring to Christians in any way. Rather, the phrase "EVERYONE" are used which shows that Christians are not involved.
For instance, not everyone or every disciple of Jesus in Jesus days who who called Jesus Lord Lord ended up seeing the kingdom of God. These disciples were never christians until christ resurrected.
And oyedepo is saying that Names are being blotted out in Heaven (Book of life) every second.
Which implies that Christians names are blotted because only Christians are found in the book of life.

Can you see the error in what this man is saying?
If you think very well you will see it, only that it's a bit technical.
But oyedepo can't continue to fool people like that grin

Hebrews 6 Revised Standard Version (RSV)

The Peril of Falling Away

6 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 with instruction[a] about ablutions, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do if God permits. [b]4 For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they then commit apostasy, since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold him up to contempt. 7 For land which has drunk the rain that often falls upon it, and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. 8 But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed; its end is to be burned.
so, how does these scriptures shows that Christians names are being blutted out from the book of life every second?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by tjskii(f): 3:24pm On Jun 25, 2018
loveformercy:
Oyedepo is 200% right...All these please ooh you can "continue in sin that grace may abound" messages from grace preachers will make you take sin lightly; fornicate & shout grace, do ashawo & shout grace, masturbate & shout grace, collect bribe & shout grace, sleep with your fiance & shout grace...

Romans 6:1-4 "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!"

He that committed sin is of the devil. If you die in sin right now, you are going to hell fire life. You think God is your tom boy where you will sin anyhow & use praises to cover it up...

If you sin without repenting immediately, you are heading to hell

God's grace is incomprehensible. You can't fathom the depth,width or height of it, the "grace preachers" are telling you like it is.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by aligba4u: 3:32pm On Jun 25, 2018
Yes sir I pray � for GOD mercy upon my life Amen
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Dongreat(m): 3:42pm On Jun 25, 2018
mercy87:



The Bible states that Adam had many other children. Gen 5:4. In those days women were not counted in Genealogy. If you check the genealogy Of Adam in Genesis 5 you will not You see any woman listed. It is possible that Adam had females children besides his sons Cain, Abel and Seth. But the females were not listed. Do you think those people That the genealogy listed, up to 10 generations only had male children? No. But then it was the custom to only list male children in genealogy. Again, when Cain married his wife it may not have been immediately Abel was killed. he must wandered a long time and by then Adam had other children because the Bible state that Adam had other children so he must have married Adam's daughter. Don't forget they did marry siblings and cousins then. Ignore the sequence of chapters please.

Tried but still not answered. Hope you seeing how confused it can get. Only men can bring such confusion not god.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 3:45pm On Jun 25, 2018
aligba4u:
Yes sir I pray � for GOD mercy upon my life Amen
which life?

Abeg go enjoy your like jo!
Leave that man

When christ has already set you free and see no fault in you and your sinfulness?

Who on this earth is claiming that na him holy pass?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by SalC: 3:55pm On Jun 25, 2018
So the gospel of " once saved always saved" is now a lie.
We are watching in 3D

Ubenedictus come and see.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by mneedss(m): 4:24pm On Jun 25, 2018
If you are saved, guide your salvation jealously because it can be lost. If you are not yet saved, surrender your life to Jesus. You cant claim you know God without knowing Jesus. Jesus loves you.

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