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13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 8:47am On Jul 03, 2018
Twelve Thai boys and their football coach who were trapped in a flooded cave and lost for nine days may be stuck there for months before they can be rescued.

The 'thin' schoolboys, who were found starving but unhurt by British volunteer divers John Volanthen and Rick Stanton on Monday, may have to survive in the cave until October when water levels subside at the end of monsoon season.

Cave experts say it would be 'unbelievably dangerous' to try to get the boys out while the waters are still high with more heavy rains expected over the next few days.

Authorities are now considering teaching the boys none of whom can swim how to dive so they can be guided out of the Thamg Luang cave network in Chiang Rai, northern Thailand.

In the meantime, two Navy SEAL doctors have agreed to stay with the group as rescuers send them food to last four months.


The boys who are unharmed apart from two with 'light injuries' have been given energy gels and paracetamol while a phone cable is being installed so they can speak to their shattered parents.


Additional divers and doctors will be sent into the cave to provide medical assistance to the 12 boys and their assistant coach, according to Capt. Akanand Surawan of the Royal Thai Navy.

Air will also be pumped into the cave to improve breathing conditions for the boys and their coach, the captain said in a statement.

Surawan said another phase of the operation involves supplying the team with four months' worth of food and teaching the boys how to dive.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5912771/Thai-cave-survivors-learn-dive-amid-fears-fresh-rainfall.html

Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 8:50am On Jul 03, 2018
The rescuers dubbed it "mission impossible" but they defied the odds to locate the 12 boys and their football coach deep in a cave complex. However the hard part may yet be ahead: Getting them out safely.

Here are a few ways the hungry and weak boys could get out, none easy options.

Could they dive out?

In theory yes: but it is an extremely difficult task.

Cave diving is already very risky, especially for young boys in a weakened state who have no diving experience.

Tham Luang cave where the boys have been trapped is one of Thailand's longest at 10 kilometres (six miles) and one of the hardest to navigate with its winding and at times narrow corridors.

If they dive, they have no choice but to follow the steps that rescuers took though tiny passageways clogged with mud and silt.

That journey takes a healthy and skilled Navy SEAL diver about six hours.

Officials said they would attempt to train the boys to use crucial diving gear after they are rehabilitated with food, water and medical support.

"Cave diving is a very technical skill and it's extremely dangerous, especially for an untrained diver," Anmar Mirza, coordinator of the US National Cave Rescue Commission, told AFP.

"So they may end up being better off trying to supply them in cave until they can be gotten out by other means."


Could they be dug out?


Explorers have spent days scouring the mountain top for possible alternative openings. They have found a few "promising" leads and have tried to drill deeper.

But there is no indication that any of those chimneys connect to the chamber where the boys have been stranded.

Again, the boys need to spend time getting stronger in the depths of the cave before they can attempt to climb up a second entry if one is found or be lifted out.

What about walking out?

This would be the safest option, but at the moment it is impossible because parts of the route remain flooded.

So in theory they could wait, but that means hoping that flood waters subside.

Water pumps are working around the clock to drain the floods though it has been an uphill battle for much of the week as heavy rains refused to let up.

If the current break in bad weather sticks, this option could be more promising.

But weather forecasters warn downpours may soon return as monsoon season sets in.

"If the rain fills up the cave system then that might take months before the water drops again," Belgian diver Ben Reymenants, owner of Blue Label Diving in Thailand who is assisting the search, told AFP.


How long could it take?


Hard to say for sure. It depends how long it takes for them to regain strength.

Experts say they could remain inside for weeks or even months as rescuers work out the safest option for their extraction.



Rescuers in Thailand said they are preparing plans to teach the youth soccer team how to dive so they get out of the cave.

Cave rescue expert Anmar Mirza told CNN diving with the 12 boys is the most dangerous option.


"It can put the rescue divers at risk. The biggest risk is actually to the kids themselves," he said.

"Cave diving is incredibly dangerous for people who are very experienced doing it. And now you're looking at taking people who have no experience or very little experience with diving, and putting them into a complete blackout situation, where they have to rely on a regulator and the tanks with them to breathe. And losing that regulator for even a minute or two can be fatal."

Mirza, a member of the US National Cave Rescue Commission, says the safest option would be to shelter in place and provide the boys with supplies until the water level goes down, or a new entrance is found.



Rescue workers line up near Tham Luang cave complex on Tuesday as the operation to provide the boys with food and water continues.

Rescuers are sent inside Tham Luang Nang Non cave network as rains continue to stream down raising fears the boys will be trapped for a long while.

Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 8:51am On Jul 03, 2018
A Thai rescuer prepares oxygen tanks for diving after the 12 boys and their soccer coach were found alive in Mae Sai, Chiang Rai province.

Scuba tanks are delivered to the site to aid rescue efforts.

Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by ayourbamie: 8:51am On Jul 03, 2018
Oyinbos are the best. But God is greater, better and wonderful

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 8:54am On Jul 03, 2018
Rescuers are pumping 1.6 million liters of water per hour out of the cave to reduce the water level, CNN's Mark Phillips reported.

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 8:59am On Jul 03, 2018
This is what can happen to people who are trapped in the dark for days.


Being trapped in blackout conditions for days could lead to anxiety, fear and have impacts on sleep patterns, Dr. Seema Yasmin, a fellow at Stanford University, told CNN.

"There's a fear of being, 11, 12, 13 and not knowing if you're going to make it or if anyone will ever find you, but we also know that there is a psychological impact of being discovered and having that fear and anxiety and wondering when, how or even if you'll ever be rescued because we know here that there are rising water levels and rising mud levels that do pose an impediment to those wanting to rescue those children and their coach and they might also have an understanding that it might be tricky to get them out of there," Yasmin said.

The boys and coach, she said, could lose the ability to distinguish between night and day.

Yasmin said an example of the trauma a person can suffer from being trapped is the 2013 Chilean Mine Rescue, where a mine collapse left 33 miners trapped 2,300 feet underground for 69 days.

"One of my concerns is looking back to that Chilean mining disaster and seeing that when those men were followed up even a year or two later," she said.

"They were depressed, they were anxious and they were broke.

They were having trouble forming relationships and a lot of that can occur if you don't get the right physical and psychological support straight after.

So we really need to emphasize that they do get that."



https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/thailand-cave-rescue/index.html

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by konkonbilo(m): 9:01am On Jul 03, 2018
See the white showing humanity.... I feel like cry

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by chukxie(m): 9:01am On Jul 03, 2018
Every nation is supposed to value the lives of its citizens. Thailand has just exemplified that. Kudos to the Thai gov't. In Nigeria, cows have more value than humans as evidenced by the wanton killings in the middle belt and Plateau State.

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 9:03am On Jul 03, 2018
Thai-language newspapers in Bangkok on Tuesday.

Thais react to boys being found on social media.

Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 9:04am On Jul 03, 2018
The Hero Brit divers who found football team.

Two Thai rescuers were among those who dived to get provisions to the boys.

Two Navy SEAL doctors have agreed to stay with the group as rescuers send them food to last four months.

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 9:09am On Jul 03, 2018
As the search operation enters into the next phase, options for rescuers appear limited.

The area in which the group remains stranded is only accessible via a narrow, flooded channel, and attempts to pump water from the cave, or find a natural opening in the roof of the chamber, have so far proved unsuccessful.

"Worst case scenario is they have to dive them out," said Pat Moret, a rescue consultant told CNN on Monday.

"It won't be anything like diving that most people recognize.

It will be diving in what is effectively muddy water, possibly fast flowing, with no sense of direction," Moret said.

"You can't tell what's up, down, sideways."

The emotional toil of any rescue attempt would also need to be considered said Paul Auerbach, Professor of Emergency Medicine at Stanford University.

"This is going to be a complicated rescue.

It's manageable, but they have to be sure that these kids are physically capable of it and emotionally capable of it as well," said Auerbach.

"They'll be assessed for hydration status, adequate fuel supply, adequate food so that their glucose level is adequate, and then no doubt they'll do practice dives," he added.

Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by dunasy(f): 9:45am On Jul 03, 2018
waoh....the support system is huge
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by RRWraith(m): 9:58am On Jul 03, 2018
wow
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Flexherbal(m): 10:05am On Jul 03, 2018
Thank God they have been found alive !
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Imustreturn(m): 10:06am On Jul 03, 2018
Like I said before our wickedness will never allow this people help us.

I could remember when dey came to help us fight boko haram, what happened afterward.. Its history now

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 3:30pm On Jul 03, 2018
Australian Federal Police divers prepare to go into the cave after the 12 boys and their soccer coach were found alive.



The Australian rescue mission to save the 12 boys and their soccer coach who are trapped in Thailand is proving difficult as police divers battle low visibility and tight areas within the cave system.

Detective Superintendent Thomas Hester said the team of six divers from the Australian Federal Police faced “incredibly challenging” conditions.

The priority now was getting food to the trapped boys and evacuating them safely from the cave, Detective Superintendent Hester said.

There was no indication of how long the rescue mission would take, but the AFP are looking at a “longer-term option”, he said.

“Our Specialist Response Group dive team have been diving shortly after arrival, and one of the difficulties they face is a very flooded cave system, it’s very difficult to see and move through that system.

Detective Superintendent Hester said it would be extremely difficult for the divers to bring the boys back with them.


“The ability to try to pull the boys through those areas with any diving equipment is incredibly challenging,” he said.

From an engineering perspective, the Thai authorities have been looking at whether or not they can drill down from the surface into the chamber, Detective Superintendent Hester said.


Earlier, an Australian cave diving expert warned that the boys and their soccer coach are likely to be stuck there for months.

Experts in cave rescues from around the world have gathered at the site.


A US military team, British cave experts, Chinese lifesaving responders and several other volunteer groups from various countries are also at the rescue operation.

Peter Wolf, the national director of the Cave Divers Association of Australia, told The Guardian that the rescue would take a long time as the boys don’t know how to swim.

According to Mr Wolf, the safest option is to “stabilise their environment” and ensure their needs for survival, such as having enough clean water, food and air, are met.

He said the quality of the air was definitely another concern, but said rescuers could open scuba tanks in the cave to make sure they have enough oxygen.

“It will create air pressure and the carbon dioxide will filter out through the rock,” he said.

Mr Wolf said the rescue was incredibly difficult but fortunately some of the world’s best cave divers are assisting with the mission.

Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 5:20pm On Jul 03, 2018
The boys are almost four miles into the cave.

Two doctors have volunteered to stay with children trapped in a Thai cave for four months if floodwaters cut them off and make rescue attempts impossible, it has emerged.




The new video, posted this morning by the Thai Navy SEALs, shows the boys looking more relaxed than the first video, which emerged at the time they were found by British divers, on Monday night.

In the video, the boys clasp their hands together in a Thai greeting, introduce themselves and thank their rescuers.

They seem calm and at one point break into laughter when one boy says he got missed out when they were going around and introducing themselves.


The video, which goes for two minutes, shows a man wearing a wetsuit with a Royal Thai jumper over the top, applying what looks like iodine to the boys feet and legs.

The camera pans around the group, showing some of the boys asleep in the cave, others smile and pull faces at the camera.

The boys are still trapped in the cave, but now have food, blankets and are being kept company by Thai Navy SEALs.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/04/thailand-cave-rescue-divers-may-attempt-to-free-trapped-football-team-this-week-live

Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 5:24pm On Jul 03, 2018
A first meal of rice and pork packaged up in sealed portions is being prepared for the youngsters, who have already been given energy gels and paracetamol.

Seal commander Rear Adm Arpakorn Yookongkaew said a team of seven, including medics, are with the boys and looking after them after an underground headquarters was set up stocked with diving equipment, food and medical supplies.


Volunteers prepare noodles for rescuers at Khun Nam Nang Non Forest Park.

A team of rescuers has also reached the stranded boys with food parcels.

Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Nobody: 5:28pm On Jul 03, 2018
God help them...
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 5:30pm On Jul 03, 2018
Family members watch news about the rescue operation at a makeshift camp at Khun Nam Nang Non Forest Park.

Foreign expert discuss with Thai Navy team members as they continue to plot a rescue operation after the 12 boys and their soccer coach were found alive.

Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 5:38pm On Jul 03, 2018
A team of seven, including medics, are with the boys and looking after them after an underground headquarters was set up stocked with diving equipment,food and medical supplies.



Medic, ambulance on standby.

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by oshe11: 5:45pm On Jul 03, 2018
Why?
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Imustreturn(m): 6:09pm On Jul 03, 2018
That cave must be one hell of a cave.

Trying to imagine how dey got into that cave.


God help them

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by eluquenson(m): 6:37pm On Jul 03, 2018
It is well with their soul
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Ishilove: 6:40pm On Jul 03, 2018
Explorers:
Twelve Thai boys and their football coach who were trapped in a flooded cave and lost for nine days may be stuck there for months before they can be rescued.

The 'thin' schoolboys, who were found starving but unhurt by British volunteer divers John Volanthen and Rick Stanton on Monday, may have to survive in the cave until October when water levels subside at the end of monsoon season.

Cave experts say it would be 'unbelievably dangerous' to try to get the boys out while the waters are still high with more heavy rains expected over the next few days.

Authorities are now considering teaching the boys none of whom can swim how to dive so they can be guided out of the Thamg Luang cave network in Chiang Rai, northern Thailand.

In the meantime, two Navy SEAL doctors have agreed to stay with the group as rescuers send them food to last four months.


The boys who are unharmed apart from two with 'light injuries' have been given energy gels and paracetamol while a phone cable is being installed so they can speak to their shattered parents.


Additional divers and doctors will be sent into the cave to provide medical assistance to the 12 boys and their assistant coach, according to Capt. Akanand Surawan of the Royal Thai Navy.

Air will also be pumped into the cave to improve breathing conditions for the boys and their coach, the captain said in a statement.

Surawan said another phase of the operation involves supplying the team with four months' worth of food and teaching the boys how to dive.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5912771/Thai-cave-survivors-learn-dive-amid-fears-fresh-rainfall.html
Jeeesu...which kind of irikurin did these shidren embark on, nitori Olorun? undecided
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Explorers(m): 6:45pm On Jul 03, 2018
Ishilove:

Jeeesu...which kind of irikurin did these shidren embark on, nitori Olorun? undecided

Abi, irikurin gbaaa.
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Ishilove: 6:46pm On Jul 03, 2018
Explorers:
The rescuers dubbed it "mission impossible" but they defied the odds to locate the 12 boys and their football coach deep in a cave complex. However the hard part may yet be ahead: Getting them out safely.

Here are a few ways the hungry and weak boys could get out, none easy options.

Could they dive out?

In theory yes: but it is an extremely difficult task.

Cave diving is already very risky, especially for young boys in a weakened state who have no diving experience.

Tham Luang cave where the boys have been trapped is one of Thailand's longest at 10 kilometres (six miles) and one of the hardest to navigate with its winding and at times narrow corridors.

If they dive, they have no choice but to follow the steps that rescuers took though tiny passageways clogged with mud and silt.

That journey takes a healthy and skilled Navy SEAL diver about six hours.

Officials said they would attempt to train the boys to use crucial diving gear after they are rehabilitated with food, water and medical support.

"Cave diving is a very technical skill and it's extremely dangerous, especially for an untrained diver," Anmar Mirza, coordinator of the US National Cave Rescue Commission, told AFP.

"So they may end up being better off trying to supply them in cave until they can be gotten out by other means."


Could they be dug out?


Explorers have spent days scouring the mountain top for possible alternative openings. They have found a few "promising" leads and have tried to drill deeper.

But there is no indication that any of those chimneys connect to the chamber where the boys have been stranded.

Again, the boys need to spend time getting stronger in the depths of the cave before they can attempt to climb up a second entry if one is found or be lifted out.

What about walking out?

This would be the safest option, but at the moment it is impossible because parts of the route remain flooded.

So in theory they could wait, but that means hoping that flood waters subside.

Water pumps are working around the clock to drain the floods though it has been an uphill battle for much of the week as heavy rains refused to let up.

If the current break in bad weather sticks, this option could be more promising.

But weather forecasters warn downpours may soon return as monsoon season sets in.

"If the rain fills up the cave system then that might take months before the water drops again," Belgian diver Ben Reymenants, owner of Blue Label Diving in Thailand who is assisting the search, told AFP.


How long could it take?


Hard to say for sure. It depends how long it takes for them to regain strength.

Experts say they could remain inside for weeks or even months as rescuers work out the safest option for their extraction.



Rescuers in Thailand said they are preparing plans to teach the youth soccer team how to dive so they get out of the cave.

Cave rescue expert Anmar Mirza told CNN diving with the 12 boys is the most dangerous option.


"It can put the rescue divers at risk. The biggest risk is actually to the kids themselves," he said.

"Cave diving is incredibly dangerous for people who are very experienced doing it. And now you're looking at taking people who have no experience or very little experience with diving, and putting them into a complete blackout situation, where they have to rely on a regulator and the tanks with them to breathe. And losing that regulator for even a minute or two can be fatal."

Mirza, a member of the US National Cave Rescue Commission, says the safest option would be to shelter in place and provide the boys with supplies until the water level goes down, or a new entrance is found.


They should just quietly camp the children until water levels drop. No point endangering their lives

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Pamelayoung: 6:48pm On Jul 03, 2018
Na for inside cave them go play their own soccer oyinbo sef with their wahala. May God help them. Kudos to the rescue team.
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by LabUdegbe(m): 6:56pm On Jul 03, 2018
Imustreturn:
That cave must be one hell of a cave.

Trying to imagine how dey got into that cave.


God help them

Nations where human lives are appreciated and cared for..
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Imustreturn(m): 7:12pm On Jul 03, 2018
LabUdegbe:


Nations where human lives are appreciated and cared for..
for one country like that ehh nah cow aka nama them dey value pass oo..

Next now them go dey give them international passport

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Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by Ishilove: 7:18pm On Jul 03, 2018
Explorers:


Abi, irikurin gbaaa.
O ma ya mi lenu ke undecided
Re: 13 Thailand Boys Found Alive In Cave Maybe Stuck For Months(Photos) by lastempero: 7:43pm On Jul 03, 2018
When u trust and believe in your country,those kids know that their govt we definitely come for them,the reverse is the case here.
Was watching it on aljazeera.

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