It's sad we now despise our only weapon, Prayer.
We seem to have lost faith is prayer, in God.
Me believe our success is about how much we know, how hard we work and the connections we have, the calibre of people we know. We believe our success is in our own hands.

Can we be blamed though?
But who is to blame?
Is it God? Does He not answer prayers? Did He not answer prayers in the bible? Does He select prayers?
Or do we blame ourselves? Do we not know how to pray?

Isaiah 59.1 - Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear

Of a truth, we despise prayers because we pray and do not see result, because we pray amiss. But Prayer is not the problem, neither is God. But we have not learnt How To Pray. Yet, He sent us the Holyspirit to help our infirmities, still we do not believe in the Holyspirit.

Romans 8.26 - Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Christ taught us how to pray. The Lord's Prayer is the manner in which God the Son, taught us to pray. But some of us think it is too basic, too elementary. We believe we are no longer babes, now we can pray better than our Lord. God forbid.

Let us examine the Lord's Prayer:
Is it a Selfish prayer?
Is it about our individual needs and wants?
Is it about praying for the striking down or death of any family member, neighbour or colleague?
The answer is No.

God is not a Selfish God. In fact, God despises selfishness. But most of our prayers are selfish.

You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures. James 4:3

God wants us to show His likeness in our prayers. To show that our concern is for His Kingdom, for His people, for His will.

When we pray, let us pray for all.
We are not only included in ALL, we are blessed exceedingly abundantly beyond our expectations and imaginations because God knows what we need and want, even more than we ever could. And He has promised to supply all our needs according to His riches in glory.

Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us. Ephesians 3:20
But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:19

You should be very excited by this promise, as I am. It is our Season of Celebrations and Gladness. Let's always come to His presence with Thanksgiving because of What He has done for us (Grace, Our Salvation, Justification, Liberty, Deliverance, Transformation, Santification, Victory, Wisdom) What He is doing for us (Abundant and All sufficient Grace to partake in His Divine Inheritance through Communion with the HolySpirit manifesting in Unspeakable Joy and Peace, as well as Enablement and Empowerment) and What He will do for us (More Grace, Manifestations of His Glory and privilege of His Workmanship to the fulfillment of His purpose and Will that His Kingdom will reign on earth as it is in Heaven and the Assurance and Promise of Heaven)

How do you know your prayer has been aswered?
Christ also taught how to pray in faith and forgiveness.
Mark 11:24 Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.

We receive because we believe, because it is not a religious activity to us but an assurance made to us by Jesus Christ, our Lord amd Saviour. And our spirit bears us witness through an inexpressible joy and peace.

Prayer is our only weapon.
2 Corinthians 10:3-6 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

"And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;”
Luke 18:1

Peace, Mercy and Grace unto us all in Jesus name. Amen.

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It's sad we now despise our only weapon, Prayer.
We seem to have lost faith is prayer, in God.
Me believe our success is about how much we know, how hard we work and the connections we have, the calibre of people we know. We believe our success is in our own hands.
Can we be blamed though?
But who is to blame?
Is it God? Does He not answer prayers? Did He not answer prayers in the bible? Does He select prayers?
Or do we blame ourselves? Do we not know how to pray?
Isaiah 59.1 - Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear
Of a truth, we despise prayers because we pray and do not see result, because we pray amiss. But Prayer is not the problem, neither is God. But we have not learnt How To Pray. Yet, He sent us the Holyspirit to help our infirmities, still we do not believe in the Holyspirit.
Romans 8.26 - Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Christ taught us how to pray. The Lord's Prayer is the manner in which God the Son, taught us to pray. But some of us think it is too basic, too elementary. We believe we are no longer babes, now we can pray better than our Lord. God forbid.
Let us examine the Lord's Prayer:
Is it a Selfish prayer?
Is it about our individual needs and wants?
Is it about praying for the striking down or death of any family member, neighbour or colleague?
The answer is No.
God is not a Selfish God. In fact, God despises selfishness. But most of our prayers are selfish.
You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures. James 4:3
God wants us to show His likeness in our prayers. To show that our concern is for His Kingdom, for His people, for His will.
When we pray, let us pray for all.
We are not only included in ALL, we are blessed exceedingly abundantly beyond our expectations and imaginations because God knows what we need and want, even more than we ever could. And He has promised to supply all our needs according to His riches in glory.

Scripture states that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the pleas and requests and every petition of the unrighteous are tainted by their sins(disobedience/unholiness) and are hence an abomination to God. So, what is definite is that even your many pleas for the forgiveness of sins are not answered by God given that God made no special exemptions for that kind of pleas. No amount of praying can cause God to change His mind regarding that which concerns the unrighteous by the way. So if you are thinking of prescribing more prayers that only means you really don't understand or know God at all.

God, however, openly bragged about how He only answers the prayers of the righteous; He delights in granting them the desires of their heart meaning that they are those who are loved by Him. For this very reason, Jesus Christ urged His followers to seek first the Kingdom of God and God's Righteousness in order that all things— the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God(holiness), answers to prayers included—shall be added on to them. And as Jesus Christ explained in His Gospel, the only way to become Holy, and then also Righteous, is by way of continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, god's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of god - John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23. Jesus Christ is the only way. Obedience to the Truth of God is the one and only path to righteousness. No amount of praying and other religious rituals can accomplish that.

You need to understand the meaning of the word "amiss" in order to realize what James was instead trying to tell you in that verse that you pulled from his epistle. If you consult Webster's dictionary, you will find that the word means to be in an imperfect state, a state that is not in the right order aka unrighteous.

Amiss

1. : not being in accordance with the right order. : faulty, imperfect.

What James was saying in that verse is that the reason you do not receive from God is that you are asking in an unrighteous state—a state that is not in accordance with God's mandate of righteousness. So, clearly, you cannot benefit anything from remaining in an unrighteous state as far as God is concerned. That is what God said, and James reiterated it in that verse there.

Kobojunkie:
Scripture states that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the pleas and requests and every petition of the unrighteous are tainted by their sins(disobedience/unholiness) and are hence an abomination to God. So, what is definite is that even your many pleas for the forgiveness of sins are not answered by God given that God made no special exemptions for that kind of pleas. No amount of praying can cause God to change His mind regarding that which concerns the unrighteous by the way. So if you are thinking of prescribing more prayers that only means you really don't understand or know God at all.

God, however, openly bragged about how He only answers the prayers of the righteous; He delights in granting them the desires of their heart meaning that they are those who are loved by Him. For this very reason, Jesus Christ urged His followers to seek first the Kingdom of God and God's Righteousness in order that all things— the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God(holiness), answers to prayers included—shall be added on to them. And as Jesus Christ explained in His Gospel, the only way to become Holy, and then also Righteous, is by way of continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, god's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of god - John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23. Jesus Christ is the only way. Obedience to the Truth of God is the one and only path to righteousness. No amount of praying and other religious rituals can accomplish that.

You need to understand the meaning of the word "amiss" in order to realize what James was instead trying to tell you in that verse that you pulled from his epistle. If you consult Webster's dictionary, you will find that the word means to be in an imperfect state, a state that is not in the right order aka unrighteous. What James was saying in that verse is that the reason you do not receive from God is that you are asking in an unrighteous state—a state that is not in accordance with God's mandate of righteousness. So, clearly, you cannot benefit anything from remaining in an unrighteous state as far as God is concerned. That is what God said, and James reiterated it in that verse there.

What qualifies someone as righteous?
At what stage can you call yourself righteous?

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■ What qualifies someone as righteous?
■ At what stage can you call yourself righteous?

1. The Father Himself is the one who determines if one has attained His standard of righteousness and when. To qualify one must be born-again and have the proof that Jesus Christ said all who are would have. Afterward, one is then to seek first the Kingdom of God(Holiness) and then God's righteousness. Both are attained by continuing to live one's life in submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ- John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23 & John 15 vs 7 - 11.

2. God notifies those who Have Him living on the inside of them of His decision.

Kobojunkie:
1. The Father Himself is the one who determines if one has attained His standard of righteousness and when. To qualify one must be born-again and have the proof that Jesus Christ said all who are would have. Afterward, one is then to seek first the Kingdom of God(Holiness) and then God's righteousness. Both are attained by continuing to live one's life in submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ- John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23 & John 15 vs 7 - 11.

2. God notifies those who Have Him living on the inside of them of His decision.

You've spoken well. However, you have spoken as if a Pharisee.
By this your standard, God will only answer the prayer of Jesus Christ alone and no other human being.

But for the benefit of those who will read this and whose motive is truly right, let me explain.

1. No flesh can meet God's standard of righteousness which is why you're half right. However half truth can also be a lie.

This is why a believer has the gift of the Holyspirit.
Rom.8.26 - Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

2. There are two levels of righteousness.
- Imputed righteousness which is what every believer has simply by believing God. From the moment you repent and accept Jesus Christ as your LORD and Savior, you have become righteous before God.
In fact this is how the bible describes us in 2Cor.5.21 -
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

-Righteousness by Sanctification
This comes as we walk with God in Obedience to the leading of the Holyspirit and the Word of God.

This second level is where you may have been referring to. And yes, it is necessary for every believer to grow from imputed righteousness to living righteously as we come to know Christ, as we come to know the likes and dislikes, loves and hates of God.
As we come to know who we are in Christ. (Hebrew 6:1-6)

When a true believer reaches this level, that is where Jesus said, up till now we have not asked him in his name.

John.16.24 - Until now you have asked nothing in My name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.

In conclusion, the best prayers for a believer are speaking in tongues and the Lord's prayer, and as led.

Eph.6.18 - praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints.

The Walk of a Christian is a growth process- from Believer to Disciple to Christian. God help us all in this Walk in Jesus name. Amen

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■ You've spoken well. However, you have spoken as if a Pharisee. By this your standard, God will only answer the prayer of Jesus Christ alone and no other human being. But for the benefit of those who will read this and whose motive is truly right, let me explain. No flesh can meet God's standard of righteousness which is why you're half right. However half truth can also be a lie. This is why a believer has the gift of the Holyspirit.
■ Rom.8.26 - Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

1. Before we run away with your many other theories, let's consider your first claim to better understand what exactly it is you are saying here. Scripture has it that before Jesus Christ showed up with the Kingdom of God, the following people were able to attain God's righteousness without the Holy Spirit working it for them, people like Moses, Jacob, Isaac, Joseph, Isaiah, Abraham, Abel, Noah, Job, David, Jonah, Obadiah, Anna, Zechariah( and his wife Elizabeth), Joseph(father of Jesus Christ), Joseph of Arimathea, Zaccheus, etc. So, my question to you is when you say no flesh can meet God's standard of righteousness, what exactly do you mean by that? Expound on this idea so I better understand what you are in fact driving at.

2. As for the verse you quoted from Paul's epistle, I am not certain what that verse has to do with righteousness. Or can you explain why you felt it necessary to include that verse in this?

Something else I noticed from your response is that you all but conclude that the Spirit Paul in fact spoke of in chapter 8 of his epistle to the Romans is the Holy Spirit but Paul never mentions the term Holy Spirit, so why assume the spirit in question is the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit?

Kobojunkie:
1. Before we run away with your many other theories, let's consider your first claim to better understand what exactly it is you are saying here. Scripture has it that before Jesus Christ showed up with the Kingdom of God, the following people were able to attain God's righteousness without the Holy Spirit working it for them, people like Moses, Jacob, Isaac, Joseph, Isaiah, Abraham, Abel, Noah, Job, David, Jonah, Obadiah, Anna, Zechariah( and his wife Elizabeth), Joseph(father of Jesus Christ), Joseph of Arimathea, Zaccheus, etc. So, my question to you is when you say no flesh can meet God's standard of righteousness, what exactly do you mean by that? Expound on this idea so I better understand what you are in fact driving at.

2. As for the verse you quoted from Paul's epistle, I am not certain what that verse has to do with righteousness. Or can you explain why you felt it necessary to include that verse in this?

Something else I noticed from your response is that you all but conclude that the Spirit Paul in fact spoke of in chapter 8 of his epistle to the Romans is the Holy Spirit but Paul never mentions the term Holy Spirit, so why assume the spirit in question is the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit?

The summary of your questions is simple:

What's the difference between the Spirit of God and the Holy Spirit?

Only the understanding of Trinity can help you here, not me. God bless you and grant us all understanding in Jesus name. Amen

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■The summary of your questions is simple:What's the difference between the Spirit of God and the Holy Spirit? Only the understanding of Trinity can help you here, not me. God bless you and grant us all understanding in Jesus name. Amen

According to Jesus Christ, there are two Spirits. The first is the Spirit of Life aka Eternal Life also the one who sinners born of when we become born-again. Then you have the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit who only inhabits those who are Holy/Perfect vessels --- recall Jesus Christ urged His followers to become Holy even as God Himself is Holy --- worthy of God Himself. Both of them belong to God since they are the same Spirits that live inside of Jesus Christ-- the way, the Truth and the Life -- and they each serve different purposes in the life of His followers.

So, how does this answer the questions I asked you?

Kobojunkie:
According to Jesus Christ, there are two Spirits. The first is the Spirit of Life aka Eternal Life also the one who sinners born of when we become born-again. Then you have the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit who only inhabits those who are Holy/Perfect vessels --- recall Jesus Christ urged His followers to become Holy even as God Himself is Holy --- worthy of God Himself. Both of them belong to God since they are the same Spirits that live inside of Jesus Christ-- the way, the Truth and the Life -- and they each serve different purposes in the life of His followers.

So, how does this answer the questions I asked you?

I thought I replied this yesterday. Guess I didn't send.
To answer you question concerning the Spirit in Old testament and new testament.

In the old testament the Holy Spirit could only rest on man because Jesus was not yet glorified.

After the Crucifixion, death, Burial and Ressurection of Jesus Christ, the perfect Atonement for sin was made.

Now the Holyspirit can indwell man.

Rom.3.23-26 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,
to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Eph.1.13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
Who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

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■ I thought I replied this yesterday. Guess I didn't send.
To answer you question concerning the Spirit in Old testament and new testament. In the old testament the Holy Spirit could only rest on man because Jesus was not yet glorified.
After the Crucifixion, death, Burial and Ressurection of Jesus Christ, the perfect Atonement for sin was made.
■ Now the Holyspirit can indwell man.

1. I see. There is no mention that the Holy Spirit first rested on any of the men listed before they became righteous. So, my question still stands. And Jesus Christ was not available to those of the Old Covenant since the contract He represents applies specifically to the sinners of Israel of which the OT righteous men are not a part of. Jesus Christ said this severally that He came to call the sinners to repentance and not the righteous. So, again, Scripture has it that before Jesus Christ showed up with the Kingdom of God, the following people were able to attain God's righteousness without the Holy Spirit working it for them, people like Moses, Jacob, Isaac, Joseph, Isaiah, Abraham, Abel, Noah, Job, David, Jonah, Obadiah, Anna, Zechariah( and his wife Elizabeth), Joseph(father of Jesus Christ), Joseph of Arimathea, Zaccheus, etc. So, my question to you is when you say no flesh can meet God's standard of righteousness, what exactly do you mean by that? Expound on this idea so I better understand what you are in fact driving at.

2. As for the verse you quoted from Paul's epistle, I am not certain what that verse has to do with righteousness. Or can you explain why you felt it necessary to include that verse in this?

Something else I noticed from your response is that you all but conclude that the Spirit Paul in fact spoke of in chapter 8 of his epistle to the Romans is the Holy Spirit but Paul never mentions the term Holy Spirit, so why assume the spirit in question is the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit?

Kobojunkie:
1. I see. There is no mention that the Holy Spirit first rested on any of the men listed before they became righteous. So, my question still stands. And Jesus Christ was not available to those of the Old Covenant since the contract He represents applies specifically to the sinners of Israel of which the OT righteous men are not a part of. Jesus Christ said this severally that He came to call the sinners to repentance and not the righteous. So, again, Scripture has it that before Jesus Christ showed up with the Kingdom of God, the following people were able to attain God's righteousness without the Holy Spirit working it for them, people like Moses, Jacob, Isaac, Joseph, Isaiah, Abraham, Abel, Noah, Job, David, Jonah, Obadiah, Anna, Zechariah( and his wife Elizabeth), Joseph(father of Jesus Christ), Joseph of Arimathea, Zaccheus, etc. So, my question to you is when you say no flesh can meet God's standard of righteousness, what exactly do you mean by that? Expound on this idea so I better understand what you are in fact driving at.

2. As for the verse you quoted from Paul's epistle, I am not certain what that verse has to do with righteousness. Or can you explain why you felt it necessary to include that verse in this?

Something else I noticed from your response is that you all but conclude that the Spirit Paul in fact spoke of in chapter 8 of his epistle to the Romans is the Holy Spirit but Paul never mentions the term Holy Spirit, so why assume the spirit in question is the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit?

Are you born again?

Kobojunkie:
1. I see. There is no mention that the Holy Spirit first rested on any of the men listed before they became righteous. So, my question still stands. And Jesus Christ was not available to those of the Old Covenant since the contract He represents applies specifically to the sinners of Israel of which the OT righteous men are not a part of. Jesus Christ said this severally that He came to call the sinners to repentance and not the righteous. So, again, Scripture has it that before Jesus Christ showed up with the Kingdom of God, the following people were able to attain God's righteousness without the Holy Spirit working it for them, people like Moses, Jacob, Isaac, Joseph, Isaiah, Abraham, Abel, Noah, Job, David, Jonah, Obadiah, Anna, Zechariah( and his wife Elizabeth), Joseph(father of Jesus Christ), Joseph of Arimathea, Zaccheus, etc. So, my question to you is when you say no flesh can meet God's standard of righteousness, what exactly do you mean by that? Expound on this idea so I better understand what you are in fact driving at.

2. As for the verse you quoted from Paul's epistle, I am not certain what that verse has to do with righteousness. Or can you explain why you felt it necessary to include that verse in this?

Something else I noticed from your response is that you all but conclude that the Spirit Paul in fact spoke of in chapter 8 of his epistle to the Romans is the Holy Spirit but Paul never mentions the term Holy Spirit, so why assume the spirit in question is the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit?

Truth is, the strength to live righteous in this present dispensation is not supplied outside of the Holy Spirit.

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■ Are you born again?

1. Yes, I am and I have the proof that Jesus Christ said all those who are would too in John 3 vs 1 - 21. Are you born-again and do you also have the proof that Jesus Christ said all those who are will have ?

zoedew:
■ Truth is, the strength to live righteous in this present dispensation is not supplied outside of the Holy Spirit.

1. Well, I want to scriptural truth in this case not an opinion elevated by a mind to status of truth. If a man like Job was able to attain righteousness before Jesus Christ showed up with the Holy Spirit to give those who are sinners, can it then be said that the claim you made applies to all?,

Also, if you look up the responsibilities listed by Jesus Christ as far as the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit, one of them isn't that He makes man righteous. Rather He convicts/convinces those who are already Holy--- the Spirit of Truth cannot abide in those who are of the world I.e..they cannot have Him ----of the value and reason for righteousness. The work to be done is still up to the individual.

Kobojunkie:
1. Well, I want to scriptural truth in this case not an opinion elevated by a mind to status of truth. If a man like Job was able to attain righteousness before Jesus Christ showed up with the Holy Spirit to give those who are sinners, can it then be said that the claim you made applies to all?,

Get a copy of the Bible, bow your head in prayer that God speaks to you and study.

zoedew:
■ Get a copy of the Bible, bow your head in prayer that God speaks to you and study.

1. Engage in meaningless ritual, for what purpose?

Kobojunkie:
1. Engage in meaningless ritual, for what purpose?

It is clearer now who you really are. The discerning will leave you to your own ways and not waste precious time pouring water into the empty basket that you obviously are!

zoedew:
■ It is clearer now who you really are. The discerning will leave you to your own ways and not waste precious time pouring water into the empty basket that you obviously are!

Abeg carry your religious butthead go sit down for corner. Jesus Christ instead talk say that when it comes to the secrets of the Kingdom of God, understanding is given only to those who use the understanding they have; those who use the understanding they have will have more understanding given to them, but those who do not use the understanding they have will have even the little understanding they had taken away from them. But here you are advising me to engage in meaningless religious ritual and you think I am the one without discernment here?

Look, if you are not able to intelligently engage the conversation, waka pass!

P.s. discernment in this case amounts to intelligence where the Kingdom of God is concerned.

Kobojunkie:
1. Yes, I am and I have the proof that Jesus Christ said all those who are would too in John 3 vs 1 - 21. Are you born-again and do you also have the proof that Jesus Christ said all those who are will have ?

John.3.8 - The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

Can you explain how this applies to you?

Kobojunkie:
According to Jesus Christ, there are two Spirits. The first is the Spirit of Life aka Eternal Life also the one who sinners born of when we become born-again. Then you have the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit who only inhabits those who are Holy/Perfect vessels --- recall Jesus Christ urged His followers to become Holy even as God Himself is Holy --- worthy of God Himself. Both of them belong to God since they are the same Spirits that live inside of Jesus Christ-- the way, the Truth and the Life -- and they each serve different purposes in the life of His followers.

So, how does this answer the questions I asked you?

I've answered this already, only God can explain Trinity's to anyone. I can't.

Kobojunkie:
1. I see. There is no mention that the Holy Spirit first rested on any of the men listed before they became righteous. So, my question still stands. And Jesus Christ was not available to those of the Old Covenant since the contract He represents applies specifically to the sinners of Israel of which the OT righteous men are not a part of. Jesus Christ said this severally that He came to call the sinners to repentance and not the righteous. So, again, Scripture has it that before Jesus Christ showed up with the Kingdom of God, the following people were able to attain God's righteousness without the Holy Spirit working it for them, people like Moses, Jacob, Isaac, Joseph, Isaiah, Abraham, Abel, Noah, Job, David, Jonah, Obadiah, Anna, Zechariah( and his wife Elizabeth), Joseph(father of Jesus Christ), Joseph of Arimathea, Zaccheus, etc. So, my question to you is when you say no flesh can meet God's standard of righteousness, what exactly do you mean by that? Expound on this idea so I better understand what you are in fact driving at.

2. As for the verse you quoted from Paul's epistle, I am not certain what that verse has to do with righteousness. Or can you explain why you felt it necessary to include that verse in this?

Something else I noticed from your response is that you all but conclude that the Spirit Paul in fact spoke of in chapter 8 of his epistle to the Romans is the Holy Spirit but Paul never mentions the term Holy Spirit, so why assume the spirit in question is the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit?

Can you mention the verse you're referring to? Is it Hebrew 6?

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John.3.8 - The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

Can you explain how this applies to you?

Those born-again are born of the Spirit of Eternal Life -- not to be confused with the Holy Spirit aka the Spirit of Truth--- and they are in fact possessed by Him as they do not have control over Him rather they can only control their own selves and decisions. The Spirit of Life is in fact the first Helper that Jesus Christ implies that those who belong to Him already have before they can then have the Holy Spirit when they become Holy in John 14 vs 15 - 23

And this possession is an eternal one since Jesus Christ and His Kingdom is an eternal Covenant.

pressplay411:
■ Can you mention the verse you're referring to? Is it Hebrew 6?

1. I don't understand what you mean by bringing Hebrew 6 into any of this.

pressplay411:
■ I've answered this already, only God can explain Trinity's to anyone. I can't.

1. I didn't mention the word Trinity and so I don't see how it factors into answering any of the questions I asked you so far on this thread. So I have no idea how you arrived at this idea that you already answered my questions.

As an aside, Yes, Jesus Christ is God, and no, this is not some endorsement of the trinity dogma which is of men, lies, and not of God, who instead warned His followers not to submit themselves to the doctrines and traditions of men(including their churches) using His name.

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As is written in Scripture, Jesus Christ is God, and God(the Father) is God, but God(the Father) is not Jesus Christ. This, a logical case of A is B but B is not A. And this is what is clearly explained in all of scripture to all those who will KNOW the Truth of God from the lies of men.

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In Scripture, beginning in the Old Testament, we learn the following of God :
▪︎ God is God of Wrath
▪︎ God is God of Laws
▪︎ God is Good/Righteous
▪︎ God is Faithful
▪︎ God is Love
▪︎ God is True (Word)
▪︎ God is Life
▪︎ All Wisdom, Knowledge, and Understanding are of God
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And of Jesus Christ, we are informed by Him, particularly in John 14 vs 6, that He is
▪︎ God's Truth (Word)
▪︎ God's Life
▪︎ God's Law (one of many) aka The Way


So as indicated, Jesus Christ is born from some of the very same essences that is God(Father) - they are both in synch as far as that which they share. And this explains much of what Jesus Christ said of His relationship to the Father
■ The Father is greater than He, Jesus Christ,
■ He, Jesus Christ, is in the Father, and the Father is in Him(Jesus Christ),
■ All that Jesus Christ gives to you, His follower, is that which the Father gives Him,
■ He, Jesus Christ does only that which His Father bids Him do,
■ He, Jesus Christ cannot do anything apart from the Father,
■ He, Jesus Christ said," “My Father never stops working, and so I work too.”
■ He, Jesus Christ also said, “I assure you that the Son can do nothing alone. He does only what he sees his Father doing. The Son does the same things that the Father does. The Father loves the Son and shows him everything he does."
....etc.

So, Jesus Christ is God. However, since Jesus Christ doesn't possess all of the essences of God inside of Him, God isn't Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
Abeg carry your religious butthead go sit down for corner. Jesus Christ instead talk say that when it comes to the secrets of the Kingdom of God, understanding is given only to those who use the understanding they have; those who use the understanding they have will have more understanding given to them, but those who do not use the understanding they have will have even the little understanding they had taken away from them. But here you are advising me to engage in meaningless religious ritual and you think I am the one without discernment here?

Look, if you are not able to intelligently engage the conversation, waka pass!

P.s. discernment in this case amounts to intelligence where the Kingdom of God is concerned.

The fruit you bear show who you are!

zoedew:
■ The fruit you bear show who you are!

1. This coming from someone who only moments ago told me to submit to a ritual that has nothing to do with that which Jesus Christ in fact commands?

How can you identify fruits related to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ when you clearly do not know nor understand the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ?

ElijahIme1992:
■ abeg hu dey teach una dis kind thing, so that means u don't pray?
■ So wen will u be righteous?

1. Everything I stated is as written in Scripture. If you doubt it, you can show me where you think God says something different.

2. Jesus Christ said, "Seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness), and God's Righteousness, and all these things--- the rewards and blessings of the Kingdom of God --- shall be added to you." So, until God Himself approves me as righteous, I have to continue seeking.

ElijahIme1992:
■ I thought nobody will notice na because it's almost 13 pages long, who will have the time to go tru all 13 pages?
■ But answer my question do u pray?

1. Folks are still commenting and OP is seeking answers to his situation so we are sort of in the way.

2. I do pray--- ask, seek, knock --- because Jesus Christ commands that I continue to do it anyway. So in the same way I continue to seek first the Kingdom of God....I also continue to ask, and to knock in Obedience.

Kobojunkie:
1. Everything I stated is as written in Scripture. If you doubt it, you can show me where you think God says something different.

2. Jesus Christ said, "Seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness), and God's Righteousness, and all these things--- the rewards and blessings of the Kingdom of God --- shall be added to you." So, until God Himself approves me as righteous, I have to continue seeking.

let me ask u, have u accepted Jesus as ur Lord and savior?

ElijahIme1992:
■ let me ask u, have u accepted Jesus as ur Lord and savior?

1. I have and have the cross that Jesus Christ said will be given me when I accept Him - Matthew 10 vs 37 - 38?

Are you born-again? If, yes, do you have the proof that Jesus Christ said all those who are will have - John 3 vs 1 - 21?

pressplay411:


You've spoken well. However, you have spoken as if a Pharisee.
By this your standard, God will only answer the prayer of Jesus Christ alone and no other human being.

But for the benefit of those who will read this and whose motive is truly right, let me explain.

1. No flesh can meet God's standard of righteousness which is why you're half right. However half truth can also be a lie.

This is why a believer has the gift of the Holyspirit.
Rom.8.26 - Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

2. There are two levels of righteousness.
- Imputed righteousness which is what every believer has simply by believing God. From the moment you repent and accept Jesus Christ as your LORD and Savior, you have become righteous before God.
In fact this is how the bible describes us in 2Cor.5.21 -
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

-Righteousness by Sanctification
This comes as we walk with God in Obedience to the leading of the Holyspirit and the Word of God.

This second level is where you may have been referring to. And yes, it is necessary for every believer to grow from imputed righteousness to living righteously as we come to know Christ, as we come to know the likes and dislikes, loves and hates of God.
As we come to know who we are in Christ. (Hebrew 6:1-6)

When a true believer reaches this level, that is where Jesus said, up till now we have not asked him in his name.

John.16.24 - Until now you have asked nothing in My name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.

In conclusion, the best prayers for a believer are speaking in tongues and the Lord's prayer, and as led.

Eph.6.18 - praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints.

The Walk of a Christian is a growth process- from Believer to Disciple to Christian. God help us all in this Walk in Jesus name. Amen

Thank you Sister, she needs a Pastor to really teach her the Word. She see's herself as not worthy to pray to God her Father, dat means she doesn't have a prayer life, so how does she talk to God?