hopefulLandlord:


If he holds on to every religion as true he would end up in hell if some specific religions happen to be true

For instance holding Yahweh - the Jewish mythical god - as true while holding Vishnu of the Indian myth too as true would still land you in hell if Yahweh is true cuz Yahweh said you shouldn't have any other god aside from him

Also Allah of the middle eastern Arabic mythology has the same orientation as Yahweh (some say they're the same)

In a nutshell, there's no surefire way of gaming Pascal's wager

hopefulLandlord:


You mean Muslims are going to heaven if Christianity were true?

delkuf:
I pray you don't hopefully become a landlord here on earth, but also in heaven. I wish we could see one on one and talk, not to debate like you want. I am convinced that if we see, Jesus will touch your heart.

Shelumiel:
Did Allah ever promise Muslims heaven ? Please answer.

Shelumiel:
I am sorry to say , but
your post does not make sense.

OtemAtum:
Assuming I died as a Christian and found out that Christianity is just a load of crap, I will be very much disappointed. As in... how could I have spent the whole of my earth life following loads of craps? I thank myself anyway for quickly realising the truth and now knowing the creator of Yahweh, Allah and the creator of fictitious Jesus. I have their histories, all of them

hopefulLandlord:

If people like Oyedepo who uses security in his church while preaching divine protection to his sheeples, Adeboye who preaches that anyone who doesn't give 10% to him would not make heaven, Oyakhilome who has turned to god of men in CE, Thief B Joshua who sent prayer water to Sierra Leone as cure for Ebola and saw a female POTUS are all heading to heaven then I'd gladly chose hell where I'd meet Christopher Hitchens, Rich Dawkins, Darwin, George Eastman, Stephen Hawkins, Alan Turing, Daniel Dennet, Peter Singer etc

Even if the pastors I listed don't make heaven I don't want heaven either. I don't want to be in the presence of a megalomaniacal god who demands praise and worship forever

Shelumiel:
Brother, the Koran speaks about God , but is it from God ? No !

delkuf:
so can we meet

hopefulLandlord:


Stop beating about the Bush and answer my question

Also you said Koran talks about god but its not from god, how many Muslims have you succeeded in convincing about that?

chemystery:

The Koran and Bible claimed to come from God. What makes one false and the other true?

hopefulLandlord:


Is there anything you would say to me face to face that its impossible here?

Is this god and holy spirit of yours not everywhere again? why do we need to meet then?

Shelumiel:
I was a Muslim before , so I have succeeded in convincing myself . Now answer mine .

delkuf:
God is everywhere no doubt. but I just want us to meet and talk. maybe lunch or something

hopefulLandlord:


Sorry I won't meet you in person but I can give you my digits, we can talk privately but physical meeting? No!

hopefulLandlord:

one Muslim! Christianity must be false then since I was able to convince myself of its bullsheetness

Shelumiel:
Please define yourself : are you a theist or an atheist ?

hopefulLandlord:


I'm an antitheist

Shelumiel:
Ah! So you are among those who say there is no God but cannot completely disprove the existence of one . Lol...

Shelumiel:
Why not read them and find out .

Shelumiel:
Ah! So you are among those who say there is no God but cannot completely disprove the existence of one . Lol...

chemystery:

Yes because there are those like you who first claimed there is god but can't prove it.

chemystery:

Yes because there are those like you who first claimed there is god but can't prove it.

chemystery:

Yes because there are those like you who first claimed there is god but can't prove it.

hopefulLandlord:

If people like Oyedepo who uses security in his church while preaching divine protection to his sheeples, Adeboye who preaches that anyone who doesn't give 10% to him would not make heaven, Oyakhilome who has turned to god of men in CE, Thief B Joshua who sent prayer water to Sierra Leone as cure for Ebola and saw a female POTUS are all heading to heaven then I'd gladly chose hell where I'd meet Christopher Hitchens, Rich Dawkins, Darwin, George Eastman, Stephen Hawkins, Alan Turing, Daniel Dennet, Peter Singer etc

Even if the pastors I listed don't make heaven I don't want heaven either. I don't want to be in the presence of a megalomaniacal god who demands praise and worship forever

Shelumiel:
Why would you be studying something you do not believe in ?

Shelumiel:
...but have you tried disproving it ? No! So it's a stalemate.

Conclusion : let each man , hold on to what he/she thinks is right; so that when we die (of which we must ) , the truth regarding this mystery of whether there is a God or not , will be revealed. Shalom .

hopefulLandlord:


This is fine and dandy but why should we believe you?

I mean what's the difference between your last sentence and a Muslim saying "allah really exists man and Mohammed is his prophet.. Believe me."?

Greene66:


Only experience can tell. Wise men say experience is the best teacher. I've experienced pure evil and real darkness that only God could help me (No doctor could. They said I was mad. Seriously? ). That is why I said he exists.

It's just experience bro.. Not faith.

PRESENTATION:


On behalf of all Deist,(even though we all don’t meet)

We refuse the acceptance of McCoy662 to practice deism, he is definitely not needed on this end.

He could choose pantheism, Nihilism and any other ism.

hopefulLandlord:


I never knew you're a deist

Shelumiel:
My Brother , our life here will come to an end one day ;this something the Christian, Muslim and the atheist acknowledge. And what lies after that ,we do not know. So here is my advice : hold unto the words of the Bible; just take it for what it is (this is called faith ) . If in the end , it turns out that the Bible and the information in it was wrong , you have nothing to loose . But if it turns out to be true , then you would have saved yourself from something far worse than unbelief Shalom .

chemystery:

It's very stupid to go that way bro. There are thousands of religions and the best bet would be to hold unto the beliefs of all these religions. That way, you will not come short of any eternal goodies if any one of these beliefs happens to be the true one. There will also be nothing to loose if they all happen to be false. Just do that and thank me later.

hopefulLandlord:


If he holds on to every religion as true he would end up in hell if some specific religions happen to be true

For instance holding Yahweh - the Jewish mythical god - as true while holding Vishnu of the Indian myth too as true would still land you in hell if Yahweh is true cuz Yahweh said you shouldn't have any other god aside from him

Also Allah of the middle eastern Arabic mythology has the same orientation as Yahweh (some say they're the same)

In a nutshell, there's no surefire way of gaming Pascal's wager

WE'RE IN TROUBLE GUYS.