Glycolysis:


I was not that a religious fellow,even till today ,I seldomly go to church....I just don't believe going to church will "save" me... I laugh at people who say,in nairaland,because I have being indoctrinated since my childhood,hence,I believe there is God ......
But something happened.... ..


I went to our then chapel in school at night ,all alone...went to the altar,all I was saying is God forgive me & show me yourself...I want an experience with you..I don't just want to live in the believe that sciences have the solution to my quest.
Do you know what ??...ONLY MY BLOOD & MY CONSCIOUS CAN BEAR ME WITNESS TO THESE EVENT THAT HAPPENED LONG AGO IN MY LIFE ;
I felt a present ,not just a present,a present that my whole body was shivering ! I feel on the floor & wept like a baby .. I cried like ,I can't explain it...
My whole life just came in a flash to my eyes ; I was actually not "saved" ! ...I wept ,I wept & I wept .. I felt a powerful present ! It's no hallucinations !
After that day experience, my very self changed .


I think that's all I have to say from my personal experience that night & what followed within those short period of time....

The bolded above is a knee jerk reaction engraved in the heart of atheists such as Budaatum when they want to mock and insult your own loyalty to your verifiable spiritual experience with God. I don't take him serious, in the higher scheme of things his ancestors were mere fish.

Now let's ignore the ordinary mundane science and logic for a while and enter the hallowed ground of superior truth that alone can give you that mind-blowing dramatic experience that you have in common with millions of genuine TRUTH SEEKERS.

Your honest, heartfelt, spiritually empowered testimony reminds me much of my own journey above mere science and vacillating logic. I examined most of your posts and quickly realized why you are left unimpressed by atheists puny logic. In fact I was amazed that you could quickly detected the hidden motives in their exhausting pedantic drivel dressed up as truth.

About your supernatural experience in that chapel sir, I too have had such experiences whenever I decide to turn to God and move my spirit/heart closer through the guidance of the mighty Jesus Christ. I am also truely blessed to have met several people that personally experienced supernatural love and peace flood their entire being. I have listened to thousands of live testimonies of a global audience about the creative miraculous transformative power that instantly fixed problems in their lives after science proved itself barren and impotent.

Words can never do justice to spiritual experiences. It is like describing your experience of eating a ripe tasty Orange to a person that never ever ate an Orange.
How would a deprived mocking atheist respond to your truthful real life experience of that Orange ?

I totally respect your truthful testimony of your Godly experience of His awesome loving power. Fortunately today there are easy ways for one to observe and study live practical demonstrations of Gods power and love via a handful of TV channels.

After years of research, I find Emanual TV to stand out as the worlds greatest spiritual learning channel to date. People from all religions gather daily from all over the world, Muslims, Jews, Christians from all denominations, Ancestral worshippers and Satanist all testify to the dramatic life empowering power of Jesus Christ..

May the almighty helper, the Holy Spirit continue to draw you in deeper.

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Glycolysis:

...thanks for the compliments...
No,I guess they are the "learned", while we are the " dummies" that need to open our mind to science that's more flawed than anything you could thing about... Lol. They are jokes...
We know them...
Exactly ,it's in their DNA to always twist & turn ,in other to fit assumptions into thier flawed theory ..

Can you believe that atheists pressure me to believe the crap they blindly accept as evidence of evolution and how the world began. Atheists blindly believe corrupt scientists they have never met nor have they personally seen the evidence.

The almighty Jesus on the other hand provides facts that can be tested and verified through experience. Right now, millions are testifying that every word Jesus spoke is true and easily verifiable and accurate when compared to gospels that are thousands of years old. Science must stick to manufacturing where they still produce crap products.

Scientists used Astral travel to investigate how life began billions of years ago. They are useless at solving problems on planer earth, so they delude themselves by thinking they can solve the problems of creation.

Below is what mentally disturbed scientists distribute to anxious atheists ;

580 million years ago
The earliest known fossils of cnidarians, the group that includes jellyfish, sea anemones and corals, date to around this time – though the fossil evidence has been disputed.

575 million years ago
Strange life forms known as the Ediacarans appear around this time and persist for about 33 million years.

570 million years ago
A small group breaks away from the main group of deuterostomes, known as the Ambulacraria. This group eventually becomes the echinoderms (starfish, brittle stars and their relatives) and two worm-like families called the hemichordates and Xenoturbellida.

Another echinoderm, the sea lily, is thought to be the “missing link” between vertebrates (animals with backbones) and invertebrates (animals without backbones), a split that occurred around this time.

565 million years ago
Fossilised animal trails suggest that some animals are moving under their own power.

540 million years ago
As the first chordates – animals that have a backbone, or at least a primitive version of it – emerge among the deuterostomes, a surprising cousin branches off.

The sea squirts (tunicates) begin their history as tadpole-like chordates, but metamorphose partway through their lives into bottom-dwelling filter feeders that look rather like a bag of seawater anchored to a rock. Their larvae still look like tadpoles today, revealing their close relationship to backboned animals.

PstBiola:
What is atheism?

Atheism is the view that God does not exist. Atheism is not a new development. Psalm 14:1, written by David in around 1000 B.C., mentions atheism: "The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."" Recent statistics show an increasing number of people claiming to be atheists, up to 10 percent of people worldwide. So why are more and more people becoming atheists? Is atheism truly the logical position atheists claim it to be?


Atheism cannot be proven, and God's existence must be accepted by faith. Obviously, Christians believe strongly that God exists, and admit that God's existence is a matter of faith. At the same time, we reject the idea that belief in God is illogical. We believe that God's existence can be clearly seen, keenly sensed, and proven to be philosophically and scientifically necessary. "The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world" (Psalm 19:1-4).

The bolded above says it all. Yes Psalm 14. Fully describe the atheist dillema.
Satanic High Priests admit that Atheism is a gateway to demonic attacks, hence the clear evidence of their hatred and violent mockery of all things sacred.

chemystery:

Sorry, I'm not a cosmologist but an electrical engineer. You can ask me questions about electricity instead.

Mind you, mere theory and scientific theory are two different things. Scientific theories are theories used to arrived at conclusions through the scientific method (go read more about that).

Take for instance, the area of a circle is pi * r ² where pi = 3.142 .
Only ignorant people will think that pi = 3.142 is taken by faith. No! But this can be proven through other known and proven mathematical solutions/methods. Now, this is exactly how science works.

And if you don't know the base mathematical solutions that will help you prove that pi = 3.142, of course you are left with no option than to refute it or take it by faith (like you will put it). But science as usual has nothing to do with your faith or belief. You either understand it or you don't.

Bwahahahaha...... It's hilarious that someone wants to use pi to prove the superiority of science! Big blunder! Or else tell me the last figure in the value of pi! The limitations of science submit to God's higher power!

chemystery:

Don't confuse yourself here. We are talking about science not religion. It is only in religion that anyone can cook up stuff for everyone without evidence. Scientific facts are replicable. Meaning anyone can stay anywhere in the world and verify (step by step) any scientific claims. So if you are interested to know how the area of a circle was proved, then go study coordinate geometry, trigonometry, Pythagoras theorem and calculus. Mind you, all these topics have their own proofs too which can also be verified and replicated anywhere and by anyone. No believe or faith required. Isn't science fun!?

You obviously do not know much about relativity and other theories such as Schrodinger's cat in a box!

Lirqur:


Islam worships the true creator. Islam is the most rational of beliefs.

There is no rationality in faith. Islam is just like Christainity. The only difference is in some small details!

Glycolysis:

A maggot can only metamorphize to an adult fly because it's the young of that insect....
Then ,why tell me that prokaryotes can metamorphozied to an adult human ....
Experimentally,it's not proven !!then why should you & I believe that ...

A feotus & zygote of a human can only be metamorphized to adult human ,even in cases of genetic mutations...

Now,science did not prove life processes to me...
Then I went to the book of Genesis ,to see how life started in the book.....
One, it provided evidence to me that like actually begets like...
A sheep can only beget a sheep ! A human can only beget a human ! A cockroach can only beget a cockroach no matter how evolved the cockroach would be !
Even in 3.5 billions of years to come,a cockroach can only beget a cockroach !

Now, the puzzle of how human came is solved for me ; human were created & was not as a product of evolution some 4.5 billions of years ago !

Your writeup is absolutely brilliant. It makes for riveting reading and is simultaneously enlightening. SALUTE !

One more thing, atheists can make the claim that fish and monkey begat atheist.

profeazy:


There is no rationality in faith. Islam is just like Christainity. The only difference is in some small details!

Very, very wrong.

ScienceWatch:
Very, very wrong.

He is too wrong

profeazy:


There is no rationality in faith. Islam is just like Christainity. The only difference is in some small details!

i disagree with you. Even if you are going base on knowledge which is base on established fact. It will have to depend on your epistemology, just like some established knowledge that are irrational but agree with science.

faith can either be rational or irrational too. It is more powerful than logic. Let me break it down . We have (a) a naturalistic epistemology and (b) religious epistemology. Religious epistemology deals purely with preternatural questions. Naturalistic epistemology deals purely with natural questions.

Faith can be rational in religious epistemology but faith can be irrational under naturalistic epistemology. Since religious epistemological answers are unfalsifiable for naturalistic epistemological questions.

profeazy:


There is no rationality in faith. Islam is just like Christainity. The only difference is in some small details!

I have never seen someone as wrong as you sir. What I read reminds me of a person driving the wrong way up a busy highway.

You are tooo wrong as someone declared here.

vaxx:
i disagree with you. Even if you are going to base it on knowledge which is based on established fact. It will have to depend on your epistemology, just like some established knowledge that are irrational but agree with science.

Faith can either be rational or irrational too. It is more powerful than logic. Let me break it down . We have -- (a) a naturalistic epistemology and (b) a religious epistemology. Religious epistemology deals purely with supernatural questions. Naturalistic epistemology deals purely with natural questions.

Faith can be rational in religious epistemology but faith can be irrational under naturalistic epistemology. Since religious epistemological answers are unfalsifiable for naturalistic epistemological questions.

OMG ! Thanks sir. If atheists still fail to understand what you wrote, I will have to declare that they are a true embarrassment to their fish and ape ancestry.

I just showed this to an irreligious student of Philosophy for an opinion. He says that only a fish brain won't understand this incredible writeup of Vaxx. He further says that it is crucial to the genuine truth seeker that the two separate Epistemologies are respected to avoid confusion.

Yes sir, true faith is way more powerful than logic. It is easy to prove.

ScienceWatch:
OMG ! Thanks sir. If atheists still fail to understand what you wrote, I will have to declare that they are a true embarrassment to their fish and ape ancestry.

I just showed this to an irreligious student of Philosophy for an opinion. He says that only a fish brain won't understand this incredible writeup of Vaxx. He further says that it is crucial to the genuine truth seeker that the two separate Epistemologies are respected to avoid confusion.

Yes sir, true faith is way more powerful than logic. It is easy to prove.

I am not sure he is aware theology is a branch of liberal art. And it is study up to PhD level. Unless he argue that liberal art can not be rationalized. And If he does, the whole world will laugh at him.

How can you have a PhD in theology without rationalization?

budaatum:

I thought we agreed to not assume things about one another? You spent your time decently conversing with me with an engaged mind without being rude or insulting, and even apologised when I felt offended by you, so why should I be an ass and treat you undeservedly by being sarcastic?

Do not let that unevolved ape tell you what you should believe or think. You have a mind of your own so use it to consider the evidence before you instead of making, or having others make things up in your head. I might be an atheist but I still can recognise good behaviour, and pay it back in a deserving coin.

Alright....

vaxx:
I am not sure he is aware theology is a branch of liberal art. And it is study up to PhD level. Unless he argue that liberal art can not be rationalized. And If he does, the whole world will laugh at him.

How can you have a PhD in theology without rationalization?

I agree that rationalization is a critical tool in Theology to help both student and lecturer communicate abstract spiritual concepts appear seemly rational and logical.
In most cases PhD lecturer and students have no true understanding of the much deeper and powerful meanings of spiritual concepts so they rationalize for acceptance.

I recall a highly respected Theology professor Willem Ouwenel that was shocked when for the first time in his life witnessed two weeks of continual miraculous healing. He had always rationalized to his students that the biblical miracle ended when the last of Jesus' disciples/pastors died.
Prof Ouwenel had written 100 books by that time. He arranged with the church to come back for three more studies each lasting two weeks, when he was done he wrote a book that got him into big trouble. His peers attacked him calling him deceived.

That is the real reason why higher spiritual truth is rationalized. It is fear.

ScienceWatch:
Your writeup is absolutely brilliant. It makes for riveting reading and is simultaneously enlightening. SALUTE !

One more thing, atheists can make the claim that fish and monkey begat atheist.

Thanks once again,...but I could be very wrong too. That's why the earth is too big that everybody can do his / her findings
But one thing I know for sure is that GOD exist !

Glycolysis:

Alright....

Do you see again Budaatum's deception when he said you two had an agreement to not make any assumptions about each other. Do you remember that he was the first one to assume that you must believe the way you because were indoctrinated from childhood.
Your clearly proved him wrong again.

I don't know who is more slippery, a fish or him. Chai !

ScienceWatch:

Can you believe that atheists pressure me to believe the crap they blindly accept as evidence of evolution and how the world began. Atheists blindly believe corrupt scientists they have never met nor have they personally seen the evidence.

The almighty Jesus on the other hand provides facts that can be tested and verified through experience. Right now, millions are testifying that every word Jesus spoke is true and easily verifiable and accurate when compared to gospels that are thousands of years old. Science must stick to manufacturing where they still produce crap products.

Scientists used Astral travel to investigate how life began billions of years ago. They are useless at solving problems on planer earth, so they delude themselves by thinking they can solve the problems of creation.

Below is what mentally disturbed scientists distribute to anxious atheists ;

580 million years ago
The earliest known fossils of cnidarians, the group that includes jellyfish, sea anemones and corals, date to around this time – though the fossil evidence has been disputed.

575 million years ago
Strange life forms known as the Ediacarans appear around this time and persist for about 33 million years.

570 million years ago
A small group breaks away from the main group of deuterostomes, known as the Ambulacraria. This group eventually becomes the echinoderms (starfish, brittle stars and their relatives) and two worm-like families called the hemichordates and Xenoturbellida.

Another echinoderm, the sea lily, is thought to be the “missing link” between vertebrates (animals with backbones) and invertebrates (animals without backbones), a split that occurred around this time.

565 million years ago
Fossilised animal trails suggest that some animals are moving under their own power.

540 million years ago
As the first chordates – animals that have a backbone, or at least a primitive version of it – emerge among the deuterostomes, a surprising cousin branches off.

The sea squirts (tunicates) begin their history as tadpole-like chordates, but metamorphose partway through their lives into bottom-dwelling filter feeders that look rather like a bag of seawater anchored to a rock. Their larvae still look like tadpoles today, revealing their close relationship to backboned animals.

Bible never changes to fit into our contemporary world . Never !...
Even if men misinterpretes Bible every now & then ....it never changes from it actual interpretation which the Holy spirit will guide you to....that's if you're sanctified & baptism by Him.
Hence,it's worth examining it content...

vaxx:
i disagree with you. Even if you are going base on knowledge which is base on established fact. It will have to depend on your epistemology, just like some established knowledge that are irrational but agree with science.

faith can either be rational or irrational too. It is more powerful than logic. Let me break it down . We have (a) a naturalistic epistemology and (b) religious epistemology. Religious epistemology deals purely with preternatural questions. Naturalistic epistemology deals purely with natural questions.

Faith can be rational in religious epistemology but faith can be irrational under naturalistic epistemology. Since religious epistemological answers are unfalsifiable for naturalistic epistemological questions.

Hi Vaxx please cc Glycolysis.

ScienceWatch:
Do you see again Budaatum's deception when he said you two had an agreement to not make any assumptions about each other. Do you remember that he was the first one to assume that you must believe the way you because were indoctrinated from childhood.
Your clearly proved him wrong again.

I don't know who is more slippery, a fish or him. Chai !

..I noticed it,hence I was quick to point him out,& you know what ? You witnessed how it all played out.
No need trying to engage in unnecessary arguments, hence,I left him with an "alright..."

ScienceWatch:
Hi Vaxx please cc Glycolysis.

I'm sorry, I don't get the purpose for the write up..
What led to these ?

profeazy:


There is no rationality in faith. Islam is just like Christainity. The only difference is in some small details!

Allow me to back down a bit sir. I may have misunderstood your meaning. Looking at it again I can agree with you if you meant that people with true faith don't fearfully rationalize their faith. But when that same supernatural faith is explained to non believers, rationalization is an important tool to covey superior abstract concepts to a hardened materialistic mind.

My apologies sir. Please explain the small detail that differentiate Islam from Christianity ?

Glycolysis:

..I noticed it,hence I was quick to point him out,& you know what ? You witnessed how it all played out.
No need trying to engage in unnecessary arguments, hence,I left him with an "alright..."

You are quided by the LIGHT sir.

Glycolysis:

I'm sorry, I don't get the purpose for the write up..
What led to these ?

Sorry sir. I thought you may share your thoughts on Vaxx's post on the purpose of the two different epistemologies.

vaxx:
i disagree with you. Even if you are going base on knowledge which is base on established fact. It will have to depend on your epistemology, just like some established knowledge that are irrational but agree with science.

faith can either be rational or irrational too. It is more powerful than logic. Let me break it down . We have (a) a naturalistic epistemology and (b) religious epistemology. Religious epistemology deals purely with preternatural questions. Naturalistic epistemology deals purely with natural questions.

Faith can be rational in religious epistemology but faith can be irrational under naturalistic epistemology. Since religious epistemological answers are unfalsifiable for naturalistic epistemological questions.

ScienceWatch:
Sorry sir. I thought you may share your thoughts on Vaxx's post on the purpose of the two different epistemologies.

vaxx:
i disagree with you. Even if you are going base on knowledge which is base on established fact. It will have to depend on your epistemology, just like some established knowledge that are irrational but agree with science.

faith can either be rational or irrational too. It is more powerful than logic. Let me break it down . We have (a) a naturalistic epistemology and (b) religious epistemology. Religious epistemology deals purely with preternatural questions. Naturalistic epistemology deals purely with natural questions.

Faith can be rational in religious epistemology but faith can be irrational under naturalistic epistemology. Since religious epistemological answers are unfalsifiable for naturalistic epistemological questions.

To be sincere with you ,I don't know much on philosophy...precisely, epistemology in these case.. I may most likely not give you RICH information you need sir...get my drift ?

I really don't fancy talking about what I don't have much information on....

Glycolysis:

Thanks once again,...but I could be very wrong too. That's why the earth is too big that everybody can do his / her findings
But one thing I know for sure is that GOD exist !

if God exists so? how does this fact change the price of garri in the market

Glycolysis:

To be sincere with you ,I don't know much on philosophy...precisely, epistemology in these case.. I may most likely not give you RICH information you need sir...get my drift ?

I really don't fancy talking about what I don't have much information on....

OK.thanks, same here. My general understanding is that Vaxx was pointing to the two important principles of examining different knowlege sets such as supernatural religion vs natural to prevent confusion or to help aid understanding of the natural vs the supernatural.

Since the day that I experienced the awesome reality of a loving God through Jesus, I lost interest in philosophy. I suddenly realized the huge difference between philosophy and getting a true experience of the incredible nature of Jesus.

Nevertheless, I view Vaxx as a man with wholesome wisdom and learn from his balanced approach to the rich tapestry of world religions and its value to society while searching for ultimate truth about the creator of our universe.

Glycolysis:

Thanks once again,...but I could be very wrong too. That's why the earth is too big that everybody can do his / her findings
But one thing I know for sure is that GOD exist !

Yes yes, God exists.
I LOVE JESUS for he most effectively demonstrated how a loving God operate among fallen humanity.
Hallelujah !

profeazy:

You obviously do not know much about relativity and other theories such as Schrodinger's cat in a box!

profeazy:

Bwahahahaha...... It's hilarious that someone wants to use pi to prove the superiority of science! Big blunder! Or else tell me the last figure in the value of pi! The limitations of science submit to God's higher power!

You evidently have nothing meaningful to say else you wouldn't be clutching at straws.

Since science doesn't know the last figure of pi, then what did your higher power say it is?

P.S
I almost ignored your meaningless post but only interested to know what your higher power has as the last figure of pi since science submits to it.

Glycolysis:

Thanks once again,...but I could be very wrong too. That's why the earth is too big that everybody can do his / her findings
but one thing I know for sure is that GOD exist !

But it will be too wrong for you to deny scientific fact.

Glycolysis:

Going to church ? That's the biggest problem I have with my mom..I HATE going to church.

I was not that a religious fellow,even till today ,I seldomly go to church....I just don't believe going to church will "save" me... I laugh at people who say,in nairaland,because I have being indoctrinated since my childhood,hence,I believe their is God ......
But something happened.... .

So, your mum was not indoctrinating you? Did she not take you to church before you grew stubborn? Or did she become a Church goer when you were grown enough to be stubborn?

I hate when people distort the truth! And I am amused when they don't seem to understand what they themselves have written.

Glycolysis:
Thanks once again,...but I could be very wrong too.
That's why the earth is too big that everybody can do his / her findings
But one thing I know for sure is that GOD exist !

frank317:
if God exists so? how does this fact change the price of garri in the market

God does not stop to exist because someone ignores He exist
so it is good to read you acknowleging it is a fact that God exists.