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Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by LordReed(m): 6:31pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
solite3: The possibility exists that this is so but no one has any proof of that yet. |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by MuttleyLaff: 6:33pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
LordReed:There is no sin grading You're sinful/a sinner. Period Having sexual attraction to another that's of your own gender, doesnt make you a sinneer more or less nor more or less sinful We all, were guilty of sin from birth, a sinner the moment our moms conceived each one of us solite3:God loves homosexuals as much as the next person and God never said homosexuality is an abomination to Him solite3 will you with all those cliches you're throwing about, stop behaving like someone reading from a script Why dont you try being informed (i.e. with knowledge) instead of because of ignorance, just opinionated? |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by LordReed(m): 6:47pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: I appreciate your comment but I don't see its relevance to the question. |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by MuttleyLaff: 6:56pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
LordReed: solite3: LordReed: solite3:Can someone please list the 10 Commandments for us LordReed:Review the 10 commandments. Rapists, comes under "Do not covet..." Armed robbers, comes under "Do not steal..." What does having sexual attraction to a consenting adult of same gender and being in a faithful, committed to each other, meaningful, honest, truthful, loving and lasting a lifetime relationship with same come under in the 10 commandments? LordReed:It doesnt matter if you dont see the relevance, those that do, see, those that will do, will see #IfYouKnowYouKnow If you know, you know, that there is no sin grading No sin is bigger than another sin You're sinful, you are a sinner. Period and that's all. Now talking about "Why cant you accept people are born gay, if you we are born sinful or born a sinner" Reiterating, for sake it is a sin having sexual attraction to another that's of your own gender, doesnt make you a sinner more or a sinner less nor makes you more or less sinful Afterall, we all, were guilty of sin from birth, a sinner the moment our moms conceived each one of us Now why most cant accept people born gay are alright is because of them being misinformed that it is a sin to be a gay person If you're an unrepentant rapist, you're in trouble If you're an unrepentant arm robber, you're in trouble If you're an unrepentant animashaun-gbogbo-adugbo unfaithful homosexual/lesbian, it goes without saying, that you're in trouble but if you are sexually attracted to a consenting adult of same gender and in a faithful, committed to each other, meaningful, honest, truthful, loving and lasting a lifetime relationship with same then you are alright and good to go The truth is some people are born sexually attracted to others that are of their own gender I wonder why our brother and friend, solite3, decided to lump them with rapists and armed robbers 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by chrisbaxtian(m): 7:32pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
LordReed: This is not an issue of what the Bible says. It is a plain fact. The homosexuality is a trait developed by nurture and not nature, as nature itself is against the concept and idea of the whole thing. #Peace 3 Likes |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by chrisbaxtian(m): 7:33pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
plaetton: genetic predisposition is a totally different idea from something that purely goes against the natural order. #Peace 3 Likes |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by NPComplete: 7:34pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
solite3: enilove: Look at these two learning-impaired people. What has my last comment got to do with the nonsense both of u are spouting? Someone made an ignorant claim, I corrected him and both of u used that opportunity to argue against a point I didn't even make. Lol |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by MuttleyLaff: 7:43pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
NPComplete:People need to improve their knowledge instead of throwing cliches about with straw men and stop behaving like someone reading from a script 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by godliman: 8:04pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
NPComplete:Thanks for your very loud and audible insults. Your taking it so personal makes me wonder if you ain't gay. That however is not my business. I dont think you know everything there is to know. I dont pretend to know everything so it will amount to stupidity and pride for me to feel embarrassed at what only ppl keen to excuse sodomy will care to search on google. If there are gay animals it still does not justify that demonic behaviour. Goodluck. |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by LordReed(m): 8:04pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
chrisbaxtian: The plain fact is people are born gay. Nature? You'd have been correct if there were no homosexual animals. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals educate yourself. |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by Nobody: 8:09pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by chrisbaxtian(m): 8:10pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
LordReed: it is aberrant behavior. 3 Likes |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by MuttleyLaff: 8:11pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
chrisbaxtian:People are born gay chrisbaxtian:Nurture indeed. SMH. How can you say nature is against the concept and idea of the whole thing, when same sex attraction & relationship is evident in the animal and plant kingdoms? The Omniscient, obviously knew in advance about the fallen world, and so why He prepared two things for human pleasure and use plaetton: chrisbaxtian:Have you forgotten that what's at hand, isn't a perfect world nor a 100% natural order, brother chrisbaxtian:Are conjoined twins not an aberrant behaviour? Hmm? Is hermaphroditism not an aberrant behaviour? Hmm? |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by godliman: 8:13pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
PrecisionFx:Thanks for the info but I would rather strive to be angelic than animalistic |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by NPComplete: 8:15pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
godliman: Next time don't base your argument on stupid ignorance. Research before u make silly claims. Thank you as u comply. |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by MuttleyLaff: 8:27pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
godliman:Why are you flying when you dont have wings? Why do you go swimming when you dont have fins and/or gills? Brother you need to just simmer down, and begin to unlearn what you've learned, to learn and relearn You see, half of wisdom, is learning what lies, to unlearn |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by chrisbaxtian(m): 8:34pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: the bottom line is that homosexuality is a perversion of the natural order. The fact that some animals display such tendencies does not mean that it is natural. Male and female is the normal way, not male and male or female and female. Procreation would not take place if it were so. homosexuality is a deviation from the norm and a sign that something is horribly wrong with the psychology of the individual(s) involved. |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by Nobody: 8:34pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
plaetton:Do you have an evidence that their is gene(s) that control homosexuality in man ? 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by Nobody: 8:39pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
LordReed:The Bible will forever be beyond your brain cells ! First,you don't even know what adamic nature is all about... Second,you don't understand the concept of salvation ,sanctification & other works of God grace in man .. And lastly, you're trying to convince gullible minds that homosexuality is genetic ! You can,if it pleases you,but don't force God's standard to change to suit your fleshy desire... You will end draining your energy for with no positive impact to God's standard... 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by MuttleyLaff: 8:59pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
chrisbaxtian:Brother, dont get it twisted now. Man, fundamentally and as a whole, homosexuality or no homosexuality, is a perversion of the natural order brother chrisbaxtian:Well, FYI (i.e. for your information), not everyone is into same sex relationships. Also FYI, the total number of gays, in the world all over, is less than 10% of the world population You clearly can see that procreation is not at any risk whatsoever of not taking place Everyone needs and wants orgasms every now and then, so those having it in opposite sexual relationships will likely end up with procreating chrisbaxtian:God hasnt got a problem with homosexuality being a deviation from the norm, so why you? chrisbaxtian:Nothing, at all, is horribly wrong with the psychology of the individual(s) involved Stop that, it becoming clearer by the night, that you dont know anything about what you're trying to talk about concerning this subject Have you forgotten that what's at hand, isn't a perfect world nor a 100% natural order, brother Is something horribly wrong with the psychology of conjoined twins too? Hmm? Is something horribly wrong with the psychology of hermaphrodite persons too? Hmm? 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by Nobody: 9:00pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:Romans 1:24–29 24 Therefore sGod gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to tthe dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for ua lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, vwho is blessed forever! Amen. 26 For this reason wGod gave them up to xdishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, ymen committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, zGod gave them up to aa debased mind to do bwhat ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by Nobody: 9:09pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:Where is your evidence for these ? I wonder Christians that take these guy seriously in nairaland..... Bible,both in the old & new testament condemned homosexuality ! God did not & will never approve homosexuality.... 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by MuttleyLaff: 9:14pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
Glycolysis:Glycolysis, like LordReed might say, what is the relevance of these verses that you appended to my mention? Glycolysis:Where is my evidence for what? Oh, its too heavy for you to lift and look by yourself, so you need and want me to do the heavy lifting for you. Hmm, I get it now. Facepalm. Glycolysis:You dont even know how to lie I doubt you know how to lie in bed, ROTBL Are you sure, the bible, both in the old & new testament condemned homosexuality? God did not & will never approve homosexuality? Are you sure about this? Hmmm. |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by Nobody: 9:21pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: "What does having sexual attraction to a consenting adult of same gender and being in a faithful, committed to each other, meaningful, honest, truthful, loving and lasting a lifetime relationship with same come under in the 10 commandments? " The relevance is to these statement, above,of yours... .......covetousness ( inordinate & unlawfully desire) And their are many Bible verses that condemns what homosexuality, no matter how you try to twist it... And also,homosexuality is not genetic ! 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by MuttleyLaff: 9:27pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
Glycolysis:That question or remark, came off the back of the series of interactions between LordReed and solite3. Look it up from the bottom half of Page 1 to the end, to get up to speed with how and why I posted the question - it was to solite3 giving a reply of "rapists and armrobbers" to LordReed's comment Glycolysis:You being heterosexual will be doing covetousness, by having inordinate & unlawfully desire for someone of your gender. Gay person is already gay, and so wouldnt be having an unlawful desire to another gay person. Caspice Glycolysis:Well according to what you've being taught and learned homosexuality to be. Right? Glycolysis:I'll let you do the twisting, as I dont know how to twist Glycolysis:Wow, you could have fell me over with a feather. I am impressed you know this. Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you There is light in this tunnel apparently |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by Nobody: 9:39pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: Not seeing you for the first time,sir..always trying to use these remark to justify homosexuality. No matter how you sugarcoat it & twist it to appear sweet to the mere brain cells,homosexuality is never God's plan for man.. God never had a plan of we, a more sophisticated creature,practising sub-human tendencies.... Homosexuality is not genetic ! It's a learned human attitudes,as many other harmful human tendencies..... Pls,don't try to use God to justify your believe that homosexuality is OK. God never supported it & will not. Justify it from your own understanding, by your mere brain cells ,& not as of God's plan for man. 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by MuttleyLaff: 9:48pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
Glycolysis:The truth and justice doesnt need sugar coating or twisting There are quite a few things that were God's plan for Man, yet God allows it Glycolysis:Do you fly in the air? Are you a bird? Do you swim at all? Are you a fish? Glycolysis:Oh c'mon brother. SMH. What, in consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving , lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship that has no detriment to, no betrayal of or no cheating on another person, is harmful, as many other harmful human tendencies? Get a grip brother. Pull this with ease |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by plaetton: 9:52pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
chrisbaxtian:And which is the natural order for humans? Righthandedness or lefthandedness ? 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by Nobody: 9:53pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:Hence,I said earlier on,I still wonder people ( Christians,precisely) that takes you serious on nairaland.... God's plan for man is to go & procreate...though,legally. If I'm single,and engages in sexual intercourse,even though i should be heterosexual,it's an inordinate desire I just fulfilled with the flesh... If I'm married, then sexual intercourse with my spouse in God's plan for humanity... On the case of homosexuality, both married & unmarried, is never God's plan for humanity.... You just ended up fulfilling the lust of the flesh... Even if the whole world decide to legalize it,it's never still God's plan for human ! And God will not change His standards to fit into your lustful desire ! And I repeat again ; HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT GENETIC ! Or,you can keep comparing YOURSELF with sub humans to justify your point.... Good for you ! 1 Like |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by bedspread: 9:59pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
LordReed:As many that hv come in contact with Him.. Personally I Have seen Soooo much ... Deaf, dumb, blind, impotent, dwarf, Hunch back, lady with no urniary tract, cripple , Bareen.. I hv personally seen Many many of such being Healed ... I mean Total Healing.. |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by LordReed(m): 10:03pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
Glycolysis: The simple fact is that it is genetic. |
Re: If We Are Born Sinful/sinners Why Can't You Accept People Are Born Gay? by bedspread: 10:03pm On Aug 18, 2018 |
plaetton:Your Creator, who is also my Creator, the ALMIGHTY GOD gave us the Bible which is the study guide to Heaven... Everything that Governs our life is in there.. 1john5:17 All unrighteousness is Sin. Whatever we do against The Commandments given to us by our Creator is Sin.. |
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