unitysheart:


Absurdity.

If its not us that called them into priesthood and cannot judge them, how come the worldly government can judge and punisb them.

I havent condemned Christianity but i have every right to denounce and condemn immorality found with the priests.

Jesus himself commandrd that such priests should be expelled from yhe congregation.

You make it seem as if the church forces them to become celebate.

JMAN05:


The problem is making it a requirement to be a priest. Who established that law? One may want ti be a priest and also be married. Is anything scripturally wrong with that desire?

An impotent man or someone who castrated himself is not allowed to be a priest, as a priority, the church has deem it fit that before one becomes a priest, his sexual organs must be intact to be able to stand the temptation that comes with priesthood. I also want to bring to your notice that one must not be a priest before he can serve God, there are other noble ways to serve God and still get married.

A priest has already sworn to a life of chastity, having no possession and in death is a property of the church. Knowing all these, anyone who decides to go into priesthood have already decided not to get married nor have any worldly possession nor heir, so it's not right for you to say that someone may want to be a priest and still get married.

If you are not a Catholic, don't meddle in the affairs of Catholics, rather meddle in the affairs of your own denomination.

TolaTosin:
stop quoting the Bible upside down. What led to that statement by Jesus is not related to the topic

How is it not related? I quoted the bible verbatim, so what do you mean by upside down?

Jesus taught celibacy for the sake of the Kingdom. So it is part of the reasons the Catholic Church adopted it.

karlboss:


Your comment got me

Well I was born a Catholic but when you see how Catholics were involved in West Africa slave trade your eyes will open to alot of things

When we talk about history no one has a perfect answer because sometimes history is just story agreed upon.

During the early times there were only two churches Catholic Church to the west and Orthodox Church to the east.

That st Jerome is a Catholic priest that translated the Bible does not deny the fact Catholics prevented people to access the Bible.

Martin Luther was also a Catholic monk all other reformers were all Catholics.

Homosexuality was prevalent in Rome so when Rome adopted Christianity it entered the church.


Our question should be during the time of Christ and soon after Romans persecuted followers of Jesus and hated them with passion how come did they suddenly accept Christianity.

I know people will tell you Constantine story but the answer is simple they saw Christianity as an avenue to spread their Roman culture and paganism and hence the Roman Catholic Church was formed.

If you are a Catholic and you bow to virgin Mary stature and you condemn my fore fathers that bow to their own stature you are the reason Jesus wept.

Christianity did not start in Rome, Roman Catholicism started in Rome after emperor Constantine became a Christian and Roman government officially adopted Christianity

sto spewing rubbish!!!

Blacknight28:

An impotent man or someone who castrated himself is not allowed to be a priest, as a priority, the church has deem it fit that before one becomes a priest, his sexual organs must be intact to be able to stand the temptation that comes with priesthood. I also want to bring to your notice that one must not be a priest before he can serve God, there are other noble ways to serve God and still get married.

A priest has already sworn to a life of chastity, having no possession and in death is a property of the church. Knowing all these, anyone who decides to go into priesthood have already decided not to get married nor have any worldly possession nor heir, so it's not right for you to say that someone may want to be a priest and still get married.

I don't think you really understand. True, one must not be a priest to serve God. But some might really want to be priests. They may desire it. Now, I believe a priest can be termed a pastor. So, which scripture states that a pastor MUST celibate? If such is not written, don't you think that this requirement is hindering Gods word? In other words, you are restricting someone unscripturally.

jnrbayano:


Nothing is wrong with it.

Nothing is also wrong in deciding not to marry and yet being a priest. No?

If God accepts pastors whether married or not, is it reasonable to set a standard that require only single persons to pastor?

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

If any doctrine forbids any man or woman from marriage, that doctrine is not of God, it is of satan the devil

Blacknight28:


You make it seem as if the church forces them to become celebate.

Truth is, the church needs to expel such erring priests and turn them over for criminal prosecution.

JMAN05:


If God accepts pastors whether married or not, is it reasonable to set a standard that require only single persons to pastor?

Since God forgives every human being his or her sin no matter how grevious, is it reasonable for 3 men to set up judicial committee and disfellowship another man on account of his sin and tell his family and friends to stop talking to him (shun him)?

The same way your gb (human beings) has set standards on how members should behave and has listed sins for which an individual should be disfellowshipped is the same way people set a standard that require only single persons to pastors.

It's funny how you want to sound like someone who just wants to know but we know you have something up your sleeve.

You want to accuse Catholics of string laws whereas the laws set by your leaders in new York are way worse

JMAN05:


I don't think you really understand. True, one must not be a priest to serve God. But some might really want to be priests. They may desire it. Now, I believe a priest can be termed a pastor. So, which scripture states that a pastor MUST celibate? If such is not written, don't you think that this requirement is hindering Gods word? In other words, you are restricting someone unscripturally.

Please which scripture says there is something called overlapping generation, or we shouldn't vote, or we shouldn't celebrate birthdays, Christmas or easter or we shouldn't join the army or we shouldn't accept blood transfusion or we must belong to watchtower organization to survive Armageddon or we shouldn't think independently?

If such is not written, don't you think that this requirement is hindering Gods word? In other words, you are restricting someone unscripturally.


THE SAME WAY YOUR DOCTRINES AND BELIEFS ARE NOT STATED IN THE BIBLE IS THE SAME WAY THEIR DOcTRINES MAY NOT SEEM LIKE THEY ARE IN THE BIBLE TO YOU.

Your hypocrisy is too much JMAN05. You see bad things in other religions while your religion does the same.

JMAN05:


If God accepts pastors whether married or not, is it reasonable to set a standard that require only single persons to pastor?

You chose not to answer me why?

Yes, its reasonable because of the words of Jesus. Some are unmarried for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. That's what Catholic priesthood is all about and they never claim that God didn't approve of pastors who are married.

The bold is the emphasis

JMAN05:


I don't think you really understand. True, one must not be a priest to serve God. But some might really want to be priests. They may desire it. Now, I believe a priest can be termed a pastor. So, which scripture states that a pastor MUST celibate? If such is not written, don't you think that this requirement is hindering Gods word? In other words, you are restricting someone unscripturally.

You are not a Catholic so I don't think you will understand, just allow us catholics to continue with our belief, whether our belief leads us to hell or not is not up to you.

Blacknight28:


You are not a Catholic so I don't think you will understand, just allow us catholics to continue with our belief, whether our belief leads us to hell or not is not up to you.

Don't mind jman o. His church is worse than Catholic church. In fact their leaders tell them that people who don't agree with the way they interpret their Bible are apostates.

Their leaders are called governing body who make their laws. If you don't agree with their non biblical doctrines the leaders give elders the right to disfellowship the person then his or her family and friends will stop talking to him or her. They call this act shunning. It's very common.

He is trying to make it look like he can think outside the box. Don't let his questions fool you and don't be deceived by them. The do worse than The things they accuse Catholics of doing.
He is a jehovah witness o. Their religion is a cult

Suplexx:


How is it not related? I quoted the bible verbatim, so what do you mean by upside down?

Jesus taught celibacy for the sake of the Kingdom. So it is part of the reasons the Catholic Church adopted it.

Read the verses before then and under the context.

Stop picking a sentence, and quoting it out of context.

kabillionaire:


You're well versed!

Thank you ���

mysteryman2014:


Pls read Matthew 8:14 from your bible and confirm for yourself that Peter was married before he was selected as one of the apostles of Jesus Christ.

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What I am still confirming when I have admitted that peter married. Or don't u read my comment.

Kahujadekadura:
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What I am still confirming when I have admitted that peter married. Or don't u read my comment.

But you commented he married after Jesus Christ died, this to inform you that Peter married before Jesus Christ died

mysteryman2014:


But you commented he married after Jesus Christ died, this to inform you that Peter married before Jesus Christ died

.
Maybe it is a mistake or misunderstanding

TolaTosin:


Read the verses before then and under the context.

Stop picking a sentence, and quoting it out of context.

I have done that since centuries ago

jnrbayano:


You chose not to answer me why?

Yes, its reasonable because of the words of Jesus. Some are unmarried for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. That's what Catholic priesthood is all about and they never claim that God didn't approve of pastors who are married.

The bold is the emphasis

OK, no such married pastor can be a Catholic. But not that anything is wrong in it. That's d thing, don't you think it is somehow to create a criteria that hinders people from doing a work they wish to do? When they meet the scriptural qualifications?

Blacknight28:


You are not a Catholic so I don't think you will understand, just allow us catholics to continue with our belief, whether our belief leads us to hell or not is not up to you.

OK, this is a discussion board. You can choose not to discuss with any one you don't want to discuss with.

Lordabas:
Was it to be certain that priests (and popes) would leave no heirs, seeking to inherit church wealth?

no, not really.


Celibacy was a practice in the early church among ministers, but it had a brother called continence.
Pls
Celibacy and continence worked hand in hand in the early church and was based upon the biblical principle that is was good to stay away from sexual relations during time of prayer, more so the minister who constantly presided over the Eucharist.... It is from the early church that the practice is traced from with biblical support.

Of course the practice of celibacy became instrumental in stopping nepotism in the medieval time.

This will help you to understand the practice of celibacy and continence In the Catholic church, it comes from the early church with biblical principles,
http://www.unamsanctamcatholicam.com/history/79-history/465-celibacy-in-the-early-church.html

JMAN05:


OK, no such married pastor can be a Catholic. But not that anything is wrong in it. That's d thing, don't you think it is somehow to create a criteria that hinders people from doing a work they wish to do? When they meet the scriptural qualifications?

Don't you think it is somehow to create a doctrine that hinders people from accepting a life saving medical procedure called blood transfusion?

Hypocrisy at it's peak. You want to criticize Catholic doctrine but you can't handle people criticizing yours. Hypocrite

JMAN05:


OK, no such married pastor can be a Catholic. But not that anything is wrong in it. That's d thing, don't you think it is somehow to create a criteria that hinders people from doing a work they wish to do? When they meet the scriptural qualifications?

JMAN05
We have some bodies that have thousands if not million members in the Catholic Church who are led by married people. (Google is your friend).

If one should go by your thinking, only adult males who are priests can shepherd God's flock. But that is not the case. We have female, children and youth leaders.

The most popular Catholic (most invited speaker) Speaker in conventions in the United States in a married man. Scott Hann. ( http://www.scotthahn.com/ )

MosesAlex:


JMAN05
We have some bodies that have thousands if not million members in the Catholic Church who are led by married people. (Google is your friend).

If one should go by your thinking, only adult males who are priests can shepherd God's flock. But that is not the case. We female, children and youth leaders.

The most popular Catholic (most invited speaker) Speaker in conventions in the United States in a married man. Scott Hann. ( http://www.scotthahn.com/ )

Do you know this one JMAN05 is talking women are not allowed to be in watchtower corporation writing committee? Only men are allowed.

He is talking like his leaders don't formulate doctrines. He wants to judge Catholic church whereas his church does worse.

TolaTosin:


Read the verses before then and under the context.

Stop picking a sentence, and quoting it out of context.

What are your driving at really? Jesus said it verbatim that some people choose not marry for the sake of the Kingdom (Mt 19:12)
Paul also encouraged it (1 Cor 7:1, 7:7, 7:32)

I am proud to belong to Church were you can see these truths practiced.

Ask yourself if Jesus said it and Paul encouraged it, why are you attacking it ? Is it ignorance or is there a spirit inimical to Christ inspiring such attacks?

Lordabas:
Was it to be certain that priests (and popes) would leave no heirs, seeking to inherit church wealth?

I'm more for them being all arrested and let judgement in each country proceed according to the law.


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Obakuso:



I'm more for them being all arrested and let judgement in each country proceed according to the law.


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My dear, there would be bad shepherds and flock. Jesus said the Kingdom of heaven would be like that. (Even Jesus after praying choose 12 apostles, and one of them was Judas)
Matthew 13:24-53
24 Another parable he proposed to them, saying: The kingdom of heaven is likened to a man that sowed good seeds in his field.

25 But while men were asleep, his enemy came and oversowed cockle among the wheat and went his way.

26 And when the blade was sprung up, and had brought forth fruit, then appeared also the cockle.

27 And the servants of the goodman of the house coming said to him: Sir, didst thou not sow good seed in thy field? whence then hath it cockle?

28 And he said to them: An enemy hath done this. And the servants said to him: Wilt thou that we go and gather it up?

29 And he said: No, lest perhaps gathering up the cockle, you root up the wheat also together with it.

30 Suffer both to grow until the harvest, and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers: Gather up first the cockle, and bind it into bundles to burn, but the wheat gather ye into my barn.

MosesAlex:


My dear, there would be bad shepherds and flock. Jesus said the Kingdom of heaven would be like that. (Even Jesus after praying choose 12 apostles, and one of them was Judas)
Matthew 13:24-53
24 Another parable he proposed to them, saying: The kingdom of heaven is likened to a man that sowed good seeds in his field.

25 But while men were asleep, his enemy came and oversowed cockle among the wheat and went his way.

26 And when the blade was sprung up, and had brought forth fruit, then appeared also the cockle.

27 And the servants of the goodman of the house coming said to him: Sir, didst thou not sow good seed in thy field? whence then hath it cockle?

28 And he said to them: An enemy hath done this. And the servants said to him: Wilt thou that we go and gather it up?

29 And he said: No, lest perhaps gathering up the cockle, you root up the wheat also together with it.

30 Suffer both to grow until the harvest, and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers: Gather up first the cockle, and bind it into bundles to burn, but the wheat gather ye into my barn.

You might want to disassociate yourself from this however you can but its coming down. Don't stand in the way of justice because you might hurt yourself.

jnrbayano:


You chose not to answer me why?

Yes, its reasonable because of the words of Jesus. Some are unmarried for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. That's what Catholic priesthood is all about and they never claim that God didn't approve of pastors who are married.

The bold is the emphasis

There are many married leaders in the Catholic Church. Just use google and learn.

MosesAlex:


My dear, there would be bad shepherds and flock. Jesus said the Kingdom of heaven would be like that. (Even Jesus after praying choose 12 apostles, and one of them was Judas)
Matthew 13:24-53
24 Another parable he proposed to them, saying: The kingdom of heaven is likened to a man that sowed good seeds in his field.

25 But while men were asleep, his enemy came and oversowed cockle among the wheat and went his way.

26 And when the blade was sprung up, and had brought forth fruit, then appeared also the cockle.

27 And the servants of the goodman of the house coming said to him: Sir, didst thou not sow good seed in thy field? whence then hath it cockle?

28 And he said to them: An enemy hath done this. And the servants said to him: Wilt thou that we go and gather it up?

29 And he said: No, lest perhaps gathering up the cockle, you root up the wheat also together with it.

30 Suffer both to grow until the harvest, and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers: Gather up first the cockle, and bind it into bundles to burn, but the wheat gather ye into my barn.

This can't be ignored its althroughout Christian and Catholic Churches, child sacrifice is the order of the day!

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Pastor arrested on charges of indecent liberties with a teenage girl ...
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Sexual Abuse of Power in the Black Church: Sexual Misconduct in the African American Churches

by PhD Donald H. Matthews

This book deals specifically with the topic of the sexual abuse of power in black churches. This problem has been estimated to be three times as prevalent in the black churches, yet scant attention has been brought to bear on this subject




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Touching on the shift of Civil Rights supposed leaders - reaction to Aretha Franklin's last recorded video





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MLK Jr.'s DAUGHTER & BLACK CHURCH SUPPORTED EDDIE LONG'S PEDOPHILIA
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Bernice King, just as most black people, especially black women, promote, condone, and facilitate wickedness.





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Is Michelle Obama a man? I do not know but I have heard the reports and watching this moment of the inauguration makes me believe it is true. The expressions on the faces here is precious!. I read this on Youtube... you judge Michelle Obama, First Lady of the United States, was born Michael LaVaughn Robinson in Chicago, Illinois on January 17th, 1964











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Nothing about the Homosexual Agenda is what it seems.

Founder of LGBT is the same father of the National Association of Men Loving Boys

Harry Hay founder of LGBT and the modern homosexual movement was a sex magick practicing ritualist who sacrificed children and sexually exploited them. Harry Hay was Jewish as if that matters in the context of satanic White Supremacy. Harry Hay is member of OTO Freemasonry, as is Aleister Crowely the Beast, Anton Levay Founder of the Satan Temple of America, R. L Hubbard Founder of Scientology disciple of Crowely, Read below.












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Secret society networks are heavily involved in the destruction of children.




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The Roman Catholic Church Head of the Illuminati, University Cults, Christian Churches and Freemasonry




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Sodomy exists among Europeans, Jews and Arabs. They are all really one group people with the same sick perverted culture of White Supremacy via domination through sex because they have a feeling of inadequacy to the Afrikan due to the fear of genetic annihilation.

A. Europeans are the descendants of Rome and Greece, which had pedophile culture and sodomy.


B. Jews are descendants of the mountain ranges above Italy between Germany, France, etc, they also have the same culture of domination through sexual abuse, conjuring evil spirits, and making brutality a ritual.


C. Arabs are confusing to people because they appear sort of brownish so people think they are a minority like Afrikans. Arabs are descendants of Roman and Greek invaders who settled near Egypt after being run out by our ancestors of Kushite empire during the 25th dynasty. The reside in the deserts of NorthEast Afrika which is being called the MiddleEast today but they are descendants of Romans and Greek invaders mixed with the Afrikans of the area giving them a little brown tint. But that's about all it is, they are culturally Romans and Greeks!

Sango says the truth to you today, the Bible doesn't speak to homosexuals in Romans 1 but Sodomites. Sodomites are cult prostitutes like the worshipers of Cybelle, the mother goddess, a satanic spirit that they performed all sorts of sodomy rites in order to fuel their local economy. In Greece it was the worship of Alphoditess that spawn their rebellion to the Most High, engaging in sodomy, which is oral, anal sex, along with sex with animals. This is what sodomy is, it's legal definition. Sodomization, an occult ritual, is what corrupts the society. Cult prostitutes are the propagators of sexual deviance, sexual disease and corruption high places, they are temple prostitutes.

Sacred prostitution, temple prostitution, cult prostitution,[1] and religious prostitution are general terms for a sexual rite consisting of sexual intercourse or other sexual activity performed in the context of religious worship, perhaps as a form of fertility rite


Dr. Frances Cress Welsing
American psychiatrist
Frances Cress Welsing was an American Afrocentrist psychiatrist. Her 1970 essay, The Cress Theory of Color-Confrontation and Racism, offered her interpretation on the origins of what she described as white supremacy culture. Wikipedia
Born: March 18, 1935, Chicago, IL
Died: January 2, 2016, Washington, D.C.
Books: The Isis (Yssis) papers
Movies: 500 Years Later
Education: Howard University (1962), Wendell Phillips Academy High School, Antioch College

The Feminization of The Black Man






















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Temple prostitutes as spoken of by Dr. Francis Cress Welsing when she points out the 9 areas of human activity controlled by the sodomites cults of Roman empire under Freemasonry, Eastern Stars, SkullnBones, Bohemian Grove, Greek Letter Organizations, Catholic Anglican, Episcopal Church Nuns and Priesthoods, College cults formed at Universities under Greek deity worship. White Supremacy is hidden satanic worship.

The Sodomites, cult prostitutes scatted out in all the 9 areas and are in control of:

1. Economics
2. Education
3. Entertainment
4. Labor
5. Law
6. Politics
7. Religion
8. Sex
9. War/Counter-War


Freemasonry and Jesuit devils in the pulpit.


The 9 Keys By Dr. Frances Cress Welsing

We must overthrow this system and replace it with a system of justice. We must do cultural awakening to achieve this so the Alaafin of Oyo is correct in giving this command to Yorubas. Afrikan culture treats sex as holy which it is just the same as religion. War is holy and must not be misused unless given no choice. All labor is holy and all laborers should make a good living like those in other occupations under a system of justice.



Sex

War/Counter War

Religion

Politics

Labor

Law

Entertainment

Education

Economics


I list them backwards, rather in order of the most influential, sex has more influence than all the rest so sex control comes first. White Supremacy Racism is obsessed with sexual energy, sexual abuse, sexual perversion, sex scandals, sex prostitution, etc All their Illuminati handsigns are most sex related symbols. The OK hand sign people call the 3 6s or 666, which is 9 in numerology, evolved in Greece as a man's way of letting another man know he was into sodomy. This is how the homosexual war being acted upon Afrika is genocide when you go back and study what I just wrote.

Dr Frances Cress Welsing - The War Against Afrikan Youth
















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