LordReed:


You speak of god like you speak of an addled or disabled being, unable do things with vigor. Why would the creator of the universe employ subtle means when he created a vigorous universe? Why is he hiding in shadows like a thief if he loves and cares for us? These I just can't reconcile. Maybe for you it is enough but for me it is a sure sign the being beyond the veil is nothing but our ignorance wearing a big masquerade mask.

That's why in the beginning I said, it all depends on the kind of evidence you want. This life already has great vigor, it's natural but still very obvious but if your own definition of evidence and vigor is, you want God to jump down and show himself or other spectacular things like that before you believe, maybe such can only happen anyhow and every time we want it, if only we stopped living in this natural world. But as long as we live here, natural things are the norm for everyone and the channels through which things happen majority of the time. Natural channel is the normal and readily available channel for everyone, reason why God has already revealed himself to everyone in a natural way. And it's evident and vigorous enough for anyone who doesn't take things to extreme. Something I've noticed in life is, anyone who wont believe wont believe no matter what happens. Even if an angel appears in the sky, they would rather say it's a physical alien from another planet or a Pareidolia rather than believe it's from God. Anyone who will believe would have already gotten a ground for believing all around, if spectacular happens or not, it's only a further confirmation. Even yet, different strange things happen almost everyday and all around, things that make any sincere person who is in doubt to be convinced.
Fact is, if you are sincere, you'll be convinced but if also you want reasons for excuses or arguments, you will always get. It all depends on what you want.

budaatum:

I agree. A pure atheist who believes God doesn't exist is illogical. A pure atheist should not believe, gods exist or not, not to speak believe falsehoods. To chose to believe or not believe that a thing exists without bothering to find out either way, is illogical. A pure atheist, (I hate the term by the way) would rather 'know', so would have searched diligently.

Your claim that one can not know just makes one wonder what it is that believers are worshipping.

Since you fabricated this whole entire world and galaxies and you're the one in charge of all life, and you also know everything about everything. Then, like you stated, using the word 'believe or not believe' to someone like you would really seem lame and illogical. Rather you really 'know' that there is no God since you have evidence of all things. I get you perfectly well.

Gratefulheart01:

Since you fabricated this whole entire world and galaxies and you're the one in charge of all life, and you also know everything about everything. Then, like you stated, using the word 'believe or not believe' to someone like you would really seem lame and illogical. Rather you really 'know' that there is no God since you have evidence of all things. I get you perfectly well.

what an irony to describe someone of such character. You will be a good communicator i must confess. Are you in anyway a writter?

felaismyhero:
hmmm,both sides have proofs which for me are inconclusive.and i think most atheist give proofs based on their anger with god;like asking if he is god,why cant he stop evil? and stuffs like dat.i think if god has freewill like i do,he should be able to do watever he wants.but my problem with religion is that i think religion is false.false stories,fake tales,pure myths not backed by history or science.

I get you, but it's not that atheists really have any evidence like that, if evil happens, good also happens and more good happens than evil does. Like I stated in one reply, we will always have questions that cannot be answered now, either in life, religion or even science. This kind of life is just above the scope of our mental reach or limit of our senses. The earlier we accept this fact the better. Life is not perfectly balance in many ways, we cannot understand reasons for all these now. That evil happens does not mean in anyway that God doesn't exist. And if there are religious myths and false stories, there are also true ones. Same way, there are true scientific proofs and there are false theories ,scientific manipulations and conspiracy theories that were invented by antagonists to fight and to debunk religion by all means. But normally, no true science can disprove God because if you say it's gravity, I will tell you, it's God that's using the gravity to achieve what he wants. Gravity on it's own is not an intelligent entity that knows or can figure out what it has to do or how to do it or the power to do it.

Gratefulheart01:

That's why in the beginning I said, it all depends on the kind of evidence you want. This life already has great vigor, it's natural but still very obvious but if your own definition of evidence and vigor is, you want God to jump down and show himself or other spectacular things like that before you believe, maybe such can only happen anyhow and every time we want it, if only we stopped living in this natural world. But as long as we live here, natural things are the norm for everyone and the channels through which things happen majority of the time. Natural channel is the normal and readily available channel for everyone, reason why God has already revealed himself to everyone in a natural way. And it's evident and vigorous enough for anyone who doesn't take things to extreme. Something I've noticed in life is, anyone who wont believe wont believe no matter what happens. Even if an angel appears in the sky, they would rather say it's a physical alien from another planet or a Pareidolia rather than believe it's from God. Anyone who will believe would have already gotten a ground for believing all around, if spectacular happens or not, it's only a further confirmation. Even yet, different strange things happen almost everyday and all around, things that make any sincere person who is in doubt to be convinced.
Fact is, if you are sincere, you'll be convinced but if also you want reasons for excuses or arguments, you will always get. It all depends on what you want.

If an angel or god comes down and makes conversation shows us things we won't be capable of by ourselves we may beginning to be convinced but as it is all this spiritual bullshit is just that, bullshit. Nobody has come forward with compelling evidence of the spiritual instead what we find is a retreat of ignorance.

No truth requires faith for it to hold true. Anybody asking for faith is either hoodwinked or a hoodwinker.

budaatum:

I agree. A pure atheist who believes God doesn't exist is illogical. A pure atheist should not believe, gods exist or not, not to speak believe falsehoods. To chose to believe or not believe that a thing exists without bothering to find out either way, is illogical. A pure atheist, (I hate the term by the way) would rather 'know', so would have searched diligently.

Your claim that one can not know just makes one wonder what it is that believers are worshipping.

Its very paradoxical. They claim to know god and yet claim he is mysterious. Well which is it? Is he knowable in which case faith is not required or is he mysterious, in which case your faith can buy you all the mystery you want.

danvon:
A Muslim is someone who believes in Allah nothing more nothing less

Of course. Except Allah is a false God and doesn't exist. So a Muslim is someone who believes in "a non existent deity" nothing more nothing less.

Gratefulheart01:

Since you fabricated this whole entire world and galaxies and you're the one in charge of all life, and you also know everything about everything. Then, like you stated, using the word 'believe or not believe' to someone like you would really seem lame and illogical. Rather you really 'know' that there is no God since you have evidence of all things. I get you perfectly well.

So, if one does not "believe", it must be because "one fabricated this whole entire world and galaxies and you're the one in charge of all life, and you also know everything about everything"?

And there was I thinking we were talking about gods, a subject in its own right, with tones of research, which anyone with bother can check for oneself so one does not have to merely believe, which the devil too does by the way, so where's the merit in believing, either way, instead of actually knowing?

The mere fact that a person "believes" that God exists, is evidence that God is a figment of the imagination of those who create gods. Zeus, to name one, was treated with the exact same accord as Yahweh, yet today, we rightly place Zeus where he rightly should be.

If I were to worship a god, it would be because I am absolutely certain that god exists. I would not insult my god by saying I "believe"! I would "know" my god exists and say so!

Funny enough, the end of that research in order to know, for some, is to actually claim that there are gods. Those who have bothered to check and know cannot but make themselves lords over those who know nothing. Compassion alone would make one do so, if not the emoluments of being g.o. You would not believe the number of pastors someone like me would sit down, reason and agree with - bar the actual existence of gods - once one understands the religious way of using words.

vaxx:
how Ever you characterise your believe , yet you still could not know without believe. And great mind like Newton understand this concept except you Buddha. faith and belief = produced by a reliable mechanism equals to knowledge . So belief is more important, even knowing contains the word belief in it.

I have demonstrate this evidence in many of my thread. Yet you still misunderstood it.

I don't misunderstand you, vaxx. Despite your bad writing, your view that science is based on "faith and belief", is still clear enough.

And I'm saying, your view is false, and I categorically disagree that science is based on "faith and belief".

Or do you just not know the difference between "not understanding" and "not agreeing"?

budaatum:

I don't misunderstand you, vaxx. Despite your bad writing, your view that science is based on "faith and belief", is still clear enough.

And I'm saying, your view is false, and I categorically disagree that science is based on "faith and belief".

Or do you just not know the difference between "not understanding" and "not agreeing"?

Your foul mouth is not a measurement of intelligence, it is just a coward display to tell the world ""that I am lost of words, so let me attack his personality"" articulated hand writing doesn't necessarily mean that the person is intelligent even from within and outside . The way we form alphabets is a reflection of what we are. Psychologist prove it.

Inteligent people are humans and have other characteristics. For instance, a brilliant person can be extremely extrovert or unorganised.The handwriting will reflect that but an untrained eye like that of yours won't be able to get it.

In essence , What I am trying to say is - Don't judge a book by its cover. It is ignorant.

That is just by the way, now to what you disagree, which I says you misunderstood.Believing is not "wishful thinking," nor "hoping something might be true," nor "to speculate without data." That is not the definition of the word believe.

To believe means to have confidence in the truth of a matter. And if you consider this unimportant ( thoroughly search the Google engine for deeper ezplanation.

According to Dictionary dot com:

believe [bih-leev] verb (used without object), believed, believing.

1. to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so: Only if one believes in something can one act purposefully.

verb (used with object), believed, believing.

2. to have confidence or faith in the truth of (a positive assertion, story, etc.); give credence to.

3. to have confidence in the assertions of (a person).

4. to have a conviction that (a person or thing) is, has been, or will be engaged in a given action or involved in a given situation:

And likewise, there is no such thing as "blind belief" some might charge others of having. Because that does not fit the definition of belief, According to Dictionary dot com. It is the confidence of the truth of the matter.

One who is confident something is true, has essentially the same actions as one who knows.

Therefore nobody lives their lives as if the things they know and the things they believe are different. is "confidence in the truth of a matter."

One who is confident something is true, has essentially the same actions as one who knows, even though technically, knowing is stronger than believing.

Therefore nobody lives their lives as if the things they know and the things they believe are different.


To be noted, whenever you ignorantly accused vaxx of bad writing , vaxx shall refer you to this page. To open up your fallacy.

It's not your writing that is being challenged here vaxx, so stop with the strawman and whining.

The facts are that religious belief and faith in the unverified have no place in science which relies on verifiable evidence. And quite a lot of people live their lives on what they know as opposed to what they believe, regardless of how much faith or confidence underpins such beliefs.

There is one thing believing what has been verified, but if you believe with no evidence to support your belief, you just wouldn't get very far at all. You believing without supporting evidence as religious people often do, and let's see how much of you gets to the other side of a busy road!

Do note, I don't really bother responding to you for your benefit. I'm just not going to let you shove your crap down people's throat without saying you are crap whenever you are.

As to who's mouth is foul, you might think people would just believe you because you say so, but the evidence exists for the unmissable truth to be verified.

vaxx:
Your foul mouth is not a measurement of intelligence, it is just a coward display to tell the world ""that I am lost of words, so let me attack his personality"" articulated hand writing doesn't necessarily mean that the person is intelligent even from within and outside . The way we form alphabets is a reflection of what we are. Psychologist prove it.

Inteligent people are humans and have other characteristics. For instance, a brilliant person can be extremely extrovert or unorganised.The handwriting will reflect that but an untrained eye like that of yours won't be able to get it.

In essence , What I am trying to say is - Don't judge a book by its cover. It is ignorant.

That is just by the way, now to what you disagree, which I says you misunderstood.Believing is not "wishful thinking," nor "hoping something might be true," nor "to speculate without data." That is not the definition of the word believe.

To believe means to have confidence in the truth of a matter. And if you consider this unimportant ( thoroughly search the Google engine for deeper ezplanation.

According to Dictionary dot com:

believe [bih-leev] verb (used without object), believed, believing.

1. to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so: Only if one believes in something can one act purposefully.

verb (used with object), believed, believing.

2. to have confidence or faith in the truth of (a positive assertion, story, etc.); give credence to.

3. to have confidence in the assertions of (a person).

4. to have a conviction that (a person or thing) is, has been, or will be engaged in a given action or involved in a given situation:

And likewise, there is no such thing as "blind belief" some might charge others of having. Because that does not fit the definition of belief, According to Dictionary dot com. It is the confidence of the truth of the matter.

One who is confident something is true, has essentially the same actions as one who knows.

Therefore nobody lives their lives as if the things they know and the things they believe are different. is "confidence in the truth of a matter."

One who is confident something is true, has essentially the same actions as one who knows, even though technically, knowing is stronger than believing.

Therefore nobody lives their lives as if the things they know and the things they believe are different.


And noted whenever you ignorantly accused me of bad writing , I shall refer you to this page. To open up your fallacy.

budaatum:
It's not your writing that is being challenged here vaxx, so stop with the strawman and whining.

The facts are that religious belief and faith in the unverified have no place in science which relies on verifiable evidence. And quite a lot of people live their lives on what they know as opposed to what they believe, regardless of how much faith or confidence underpins such beliefs.

There is one thing believing what has been verified, but if you believe with no evidence to support your belief, you just wouldn't get very far at all. You believing without supporting evidence as religious people often do, and let's see how much of you gets to the other side of a busy road!

Do note, I don't really bother responding to you for your benefit. I'm just not going to let you shove your crap down people's throat without saying you are crap whenever you are.

As to who's mouth is foul, you might think people would just believe you because you say so, but the evidence exists for the unmissable truth to be verified.

Established ignorance on display, eat, they will say I am incapable, feed them , they will say, I can do that myself "" What do you do to such a ballon head"". Regard them as basket case.......


Even your atheist brethren knows you have gotten much from vaxx library, may luck that opportunity from now.

Never bother to reply, I have not really learn from you... It will not be of important now..i use your feeble mind to update my findings.


You talk way more of somebody in pains and emotional setback rather than seeing what We do here as an act of of socialization ..... You take things too far bro.

Disregard the evidence in front of you and continue deluding yourself, vaxx.

vaxx:
Established ignorance on display, eat they will say I am incapable, feed them , they will say, I can do that myself "" What do you to such a ballon head"". Regard them as a basket case.......


Even your atheist brethren knows you have gotten much from vaxx library, may luck that opportunity from now.

vaxx:


You talk way more of somebody in pains and emotional setback rather than seeing what We do here as an act of of socialization ..... You take things too far bro.

No, here is not a place for "socialization" vaxx. It is a place for learning. If you want to socialise, you may want to try Facebook!

budaatum:

No, here is not a place for "socialization" vaxx. It is a place for learning. If you want to socialise, you may want to try Facebook!

mumuni does not know it is called a forum for a purpose.

vaxx:
mumuni does not know it is called a forum for a purpose.

Start arguing that "forum" means "socialising", vaxx, it's what you do!

Or perhaps you think you are in the relationship section!

budaatum:

Start arguing that "forum" means "socialising", vaxx, it's what you do!

Or perhaps you think you are in the relationship section!

lollllll.... somebody just said you are mischievious........And in an adjective form.

This is what it means.....

1 causing annoyance, harm, or trouble.

2 roguishly or slyly teasing, as a glance that is
harmful or injurious.

3 maliciously annoying.


ALL these are simply symptoms of behavioural disorder which need urgent attention before it goes offhand.

vaxx:
lollllll.... somebody just said you are mischievious........And in an adjective form.

This is what it means.....

1 causing annoyance, harm, or trouble.

2 roguishly or slyly teasing, as a glance that is
harmful or injurious.

3 maliciously annoying.


ALL these are simply symptoms of behavioural disorder which need urgent attention before it goes offhand.

Where you are concerned, I don't really mind, though I'm certain that's not what Lord meant. But even if he did mean what you claim, you know you are being dished your very own coin. One just need go read your comments to know you are projecting.

budaatum:

Where you are concerned, I don't really mind, though I'm certain that's not what Lord meant. But even if he did mean what you claim, you know you are being dished your very own coin. One just need go read your comments to know you are projecting.

oro na dun o fe ke..... don't cry pussy.......

budaatum:

Where you are concerned, I don't really mind, though I'm certain that's not what Lord meant. But even if he did mean what you claim, you know you are being dished your very own coin. One just need go read your comments to know you are projecting.

You are certainly correct. I am glad you understood my meaning.

vaxx:
what an irony to describe someone of such character. You will be a good communicator i must confess. Are you in anyway a writter?

I'm not a writer. Don't mind the guy, I was only surprised the way he presented himself like one big-daddy alien who sits at some vital climax position in the galaxy from where he beholds the length, breath and depth of the whole universe, sees everything going on and sees everyone existing. That's why i answered him that way. Who knows; anything is possible these days. lol

Gratefulheart01:

I'm not a writer. Don't mind the guy, I was only surprised the way he presented himself like one big-daddy alien who sits at some vital climax position in the galaxy from where he beholds the length, breath and depth of the whole universe, sees everything going on and sees everyone existing. That's why i answered him that way. Who knows; anything is possible these days. lol

According to him, he is a Gnostic atheist which is very arrogant in thought. he even go further to claim that his fellow so called skeptical athiest (ambiguous brand) are irrational in their thought. That is way too arrogant and ignorance to think he knows everything. A clever mind should remain open to the idea that there may be a spiritual truth; Even if he don't believe that there is, or the one he was told Like everyone of us..

Nothing informative can penetrate such a mind, as it will always be rejected with false objection.

vaxx:
According to him, he is a Gnostic atheist which is very arrogant in thought. he even go further to claim that his fellow so called skeptical athiest (ambiguous brand) are irrational in their thought. That is way too arrogant and ignorance to think he knows everything. A clever mind should remain open to the idea that there may be a spiritual truth; Even if he don't believe that there is, or the one he was told Like everyone of us..

Nothing informative can penetrate such a mind, as it will always be rejected with false objection.

I agree with you. Sincere agnostics keep open minds so that when they see some convincing things, they can easily embrace the truth they've been searching for. But fact with some atheists is that, they're neither searching for any truth nor sincere, they wish God never exists and they always look for reasons or excuses that support his non-existence, such are those who deceive themselves they 'know' God doesn't exist.

Gratefulheart01:

I agree with you. Sincere agnostics keep open minds so that when they see some convincing things, they can easily embrace the truth they've been searching for. But fact with some atheists is that, they're neither searching for any truth nor sincere, they wish God never exists and they always look for reasons or excuses that support his non-existence, such are those who deceive themselves they 'know' God doesn't exist.

There comes a time when searching ends. Its usually when you've been over the same spot a few times. You know it wasn't there the first time, nor the second, third, fourth, or fifth time. And because it's God that you're looking for, you'd probably go back and check again just in case it's appeared when you weren't looking. But a time comes when you trust you've checked enough. Agnostic can't exactly be the description of such a person. Nor should "believe" if something was found. But if it is, check again!

The fact you say "some" is respected.

Gratefulheart01:

I'm not a writer. Don't mind the guy, I was only surprised the way he presented himself like one big-daddy alien who sits at some vital climax position in the galaxy from where he beholds the length, breath and depth of the whole universe, sees everything going on and sees everyone existing. That's why i answered him that way. Who knows; anything is possible these days. lol

Oh, please, do respond however you like. Its an open forum so do go ahead.

Fact is, one does not have to go to the end of the earth to search for gods. Those who believe in the existence of gods get their information from a book which anyone with interest can pick up and read. And whilst most might be admiring the emperors invisible clothes, some people have eyes and can see there's no gods there.

budaatum:

Oh, please, do respond however you like. Its an open forum so do go ahead.

Fact is, one does not have to go to the end of the earth to search for gods. Those who believe in the existence of gods get their information from a book which anyone with interest can pick up and read. And whilst most might be admiring the emperors invisible clothes, some people have eyes and can see there's no gods there.

No , it is a coaching center ......shove that emotional tone down your assssss feline.........

vaxx:
No , it is a coaching center ......shove that emotional tone down your assssss feline.........

That's why we hoped you'd learn. But guess not everyone can.

budaatum:

That's why we hoped you'd learn. But guess not everyone can.

Good morning feline.....

LordReed:


If an angel or god comes down and makes conversation shows us things we won't be capable of by ourselves we may beginning to be convinced but as it is all this spiritual bullshit is just that, bullshit. Nobody has come forward with compelling evidence of the spiritual instead what we find is a retreat of ignorance.

No truth requires faith for it to hold true. Anybody asking for faith is either hoodwinked or a hoodwinker.

K. If that is what you want, then i don't think any god or angel will come down and make conversation and show anything. The Almighty won't leave his throne just to be debating with anyone or to prove to some people who have chosen not to believe. God is not a jobless person or a kid who will come down or be doing childish things to convince those who have chosen not to believe. There are many things that can make you believe around, if you can't believe, no angel has to stress again.
If Angel comes, when he leaves, unrepentant human beings will still start to mock and remain unbelievers. God can't ridicule himself because of some mischievous people who will always find reasons not to believe. If you do this or that, they will still see something else to point out.
Like i said earlier, no matter what happens, those who won't believe won't believe. God wont ridicule himself, God is not an immature kid. There are some who are sincerely in search of truth, God knows how to reach out to these ones. There have been cases of atheist who encountered different situation in life that made them change and people in general who have had personal encounters. God knows how to reach out to sincere hearts.
By the way, demanding angel or God to come down even sounds funny, childish and unrealistic. Let's assume angel or God can come down and make conversations, where, which country will he go to? America or Nigeria or all of them? Or just speak from the sky? Will that stop those who will not believe from mocking? Would that stop people from accusing and blaming God? Will that stop people from disobeying?
Please note, we have people who don't believe and we have people who don't accept God.
God exists or not, some people are not ready to accept him, so that they can do and live life the way they want. If God likes, he can walk on the street, people will see him and still continue to kill, rape and do bad.
People will even see him as a peer and disrespect his commandments the more, people will increase their bad behaviors. That's just silly.
When God revealed himself to the ancient Jews, did that stop them from continuing in their evil ways?
If you think in a childish unrealistic way, God wouldn't ridicule himself or compromise his plans just to prove to some who wouldn't believe and make mess of everything afterwards.
If God appears to us now, 2000yrs to this time, coming generations will still mock and call it a lie and claim they cant believe different contradicting accounts that happened 2000 yrs ago.
God has already spoken in ways and he is still speaking in a way everyone, every generation can hear. And all the same, where the sincere need to do some spectacular things is needed, he knows how to reach out and do that.
One thing is, no matter what happens, those who will believe will believe and those who will not believe will not believe.
Truth doesn't need faith. You don't need to believe on imagination, look around and you will know there is a God, if you are still in sincere doubt or confused, speak to God, sooner or later, somethings will happen. That is only if you're sincere. But if you want to continue to make unrealistic demands or wanting things to happen like this or like that just to have reasons to back yourself, you will continue to see things.
Like i always say, God has already spoken to all in a natural but yet very obvious way. Anyone who is serious and sincere will know but if you're sincerely confused and in search of truth, God knows who to reach out but at the same time, if make yourself an antagonists always wanting to find points to backup your antagonism, you will find reasons and reasons.

budaatum:

Oh, please, do respond however you like. Its an open forum so do go ahead.

Fact is, one does not have to go to the end of the earth to search for gods. Those who believe in the existence of gods get their information from a book which anyone with interest can pick up and read. And whilst most might be admiring the emperors invisible clothes, some people have eyes and can see there's no gods there.

No one get information for existence of God in a book. If there is the book and no evidence of God in life, on one will believe. Before the books were written, people have always being serving the God. In places where they don't have the books, when the books get there, they believe because they have already seen evidences that there is a God, the book only introduces them to that God. The books or religions don't tell us there is God, they only tell us about who he is and how to worship him but before the book, we ourselves would have have the conviction that there is a god which will make us believe when we see the books.

Gratefulheart01:


K. If that is what you want, then i don't think any god or angel will come down and make conversation and show anything. The Almighty won't leave his throne just to be debating with anyone or to prove to some people who have chosen not to believe. God is not a jobless person or a kid who will come down or be doing childish things to convince those who have chosen not to believe. There are many things that can make you believe around, if you can't believe, no angel has to stress again.
If Angel comes, when he leaves, unrepentant human beings will still start to mock and remain unbelievers. God can't ridicule himself because of some mischievous people who will always find reasons not to believe. If you do this or that, they will still see something else to point out.
Like i said earlier, no matter what happens, those who won't believe won't believe. God wont ridicule himself, God is not an immature kid. There are some who are sincerely in search of truth, God knows how to reach out to these ones. There have been cases of atheist who encountered different situation in life that made them change and people in general who have had personal encounters. God knows how to reach out to sincere hearts.
By the way, demanding angel or God to come down even sounds funny, childish and unrealistic. Let's assume angel or God can come down and make conversations, where, which country will he go to? America or Nigeria or all of them? Or just speak from the sky? Will that stop those who will not believe from mocking? Would that stop people from accusing and blaming God? Will that stop people from disobeying?
Please note, we have people who don't believe and we have people who don't accept God.
God exists or not, some people are not ready to accept him, so that they can do and live life the way they want. If God likes, he can walk on the street, people will see him and still continue to kill, rape and do bad.
People will even see him as a peer and disrespect his commandments the more, people will increase their bad behaviors. That's just silly.
When God revealed himself to the ancient Jews, did that stop them from continuing in their evil ways?
If you think in a childish unrealistic way, God wouldn't ridicule himself or compromise his plans just to prove to some who wouldn't believe and make mess of everything afterwards.
If God appears to us now, 2000yrs to this time, coming generations will still mock and call it a lie and claim they cant believe different contradicting accounts that happened 2000 yrs ago.
God has already spoken in ways and he is still speaking in a way everyone, every generation can hear. And all the same, where the sincere need to do some spectacular things is needed, he knows how to reach out and do that.
One thing is, no matter what happens, those who will believe will believe and those who will not believe will not believe.
Truth doesn't need faith. You don't need to believe on imagination, look around and you will know there is a God, if you are still in sincere doubt or confused, speak to God, sooner or later, somethings will happen. That is only if you're sincere. But if you want to continue to make unrealistic demands or wanting things to happen like this or like that just to have reasons to back yourself, you will continue to see things.
Like i always say, God has already spoken to all in a natural but yet very obvious way. Anyone who is serious and sincere will know but if you're sincerely confused and in search of truth, God knows who to reach out but at the same time, if make yourself an antagonists always wanting to find points to backup your antagonism, you will find reasons and reasons.

This is the epitome of the self deluded. What the hell is natural about never appearing once for 2000 years to the people you claim you love? Like seriously in this day and age you ask how he can be shown to all the world? Are you so self deluded that you have forgotten there are cameras and broadcast equipment available to beam any conversation instantly to all 7billion people? What is childish in having loving communion physically with the people you created? He didn't even write the fucking storybook you like to quote from, it was fucking flesh and blood humans who penned the inaccurate, contradictory accounts which were then assembled and called the word of god. How much more deluded can you get? How deluded can you be when you elevate the words of humans into an imagined divine status?

Not that I even give a shit if he ever shows up cos what is clear is there is no love or intervention apparent from anywhere apart from what men are capable of. You can go on believing this fairytale that was cooked up to preserve the power of a few and to elevate an iron age culture, that's your prerogative but don't expect any rational thinking human being to fall for such tripe.