Cosplay:


You want to assist the OP, that's commendable.

Could you clarify the following?

- There's a moratorium on vehicle imports into Nigeria across the land borders.

- Importers still smuggle these vehicles into the country, pay "genuine" duty and somehow come up with "genuine" customs documents for them.

My question is simple, really.

In the import documents presented to the NCS in the duty payment and clearing process, what port of entry would be listed?

Tin Can? Apapa?

If the answer is either of the above, how would the importer come up with documentation showing that the vehicle was imported via those ports?

Where would the Ship bill of lading come from? Vessel name? Voyage number? Port of loading?

Or would the import documents indicate that the vehicle entered via the land borders?

These exam questions ehn?
I haff died.
I’m also interested in the answers to these questions.

omonla10:
so Ur custom friend says it's impossible to pay duty on a smuggled car.. It's either he's incompetent or he's naive.. People pay duty on cars daily at fou ikeja. Go there and confirm for urself.. So u mean all seize cars are destroyed or what.. Once the car is not seized, they can still raise u a DN which u can use to pay duty to Nigerian customs

I tot u said u have not done it before, how come u know so much?

Cosplay:


You want to assist the OP, that's commendable.

Could you clarify the following?

- There's a moratorium on vehicle imports into Nigeria across the land borders.

- Importers still smuggle these vehicles into the country, pay "genuine" duty and somehow come up with "genuine" customs documents for them.

My question is simple, really.

In the import documents presented to the NCS in the duty payment and clearing process, what port of entry would be listed?

Tin Can? Apapa?

If the answer is either of the above, how would the importer come up with documentation showing that the vehicle was imported via those ports?

Where would the Ship bill of lading come from? Vessel name? Voyage number? Port of loading?

Or would the import documents indicate that the vehicle entered via the land borders?

do you have a number i can reach you on?

Alvin007:

This exam questions ehn?
I haff died.
I’m also interested in the answers to these questions.

pally, the guy said he has not done it before........

I am really amazed that a smuggler will come online to brag about his trade......


A Smuggler oh..... ikanttakeit

like I said, I just give up..... cos I think the customs service has made it pomp and plain that they accommodate these shady deals.

omonla10:
so Ur custom friend says it's impossible to pay duty on a smuggled car.. It's either he's incompetent or he's naive.. People pay duty on cars daily at fou ikeja. Go there and confirm for urself.. So u mean all seize cars are destroyed or what.. Once the car is not seized, they can still raise u a DN which u can use to pay duty to Nigerian customs

Oga dont be aggressive with words learn to respect other people. The man only said his own opinion say yours too without insult. You dont have to call someone incompetent? You need to learn manners

Cosplay:


You want to assist the OP, that's commendable.

Could you clarify the following?

- There's a moratorium on vehicle imports into Nigeria across the land borders.

- Importers still smuggle these vehicles into the country, pay "genuine" duty and somehow come up with "genuine" customs documents for them.

My question is simple, really.

In the import documents presented to the NCS in the duty payment and clearing process, what port of entry would be listed?

Tin Can? Apapa?

If the answer is either of the above, how would the importer come up with documentation showing that the vehicle was imported via those ports?

Where would the Ship bill of lading come from? Vessel name? Voyage number? Port of loading?

Or would the import documents indicate that the vehicle entered via the land borders?

Nkan Ti O Ye Eh. O po ju nkan to ye eh loh .
Meaning. What you dont understand is more than What you will ever know.

You see this questions . How and Why . thats the koko behind everything,
that is the magic that is not disclosed to the jews.


As much as there are lots of fake papers for cars from land borders.

There are geniune walk arounds. But it will look like a mystery to you because its not your specialization.


As corrupt as nigeria is today with ceritificate forgery e.t.c
You think ordinary custom duty will be a big deal.



P.s I'm not a custom officer neither do i sell vehicles in cotonou

Readonee35L:

Nkan Ti O Ye Eh. O po ju nkan to ye eh loh .
Meaning. What you dont understand is more than What you will ever know.

You see this questions . How and Why . thats the koko behind everything,
that is the magic that is not disclosed to the jews.


As much as there are lots of fake papers for cars from land borders.

There are geniune walk arounds. But it will look like a mystery to you because its not your specialization.


As corrupt as nigeria is today with ceritificate forgery e.t.c
You think ordinary custom duty will be a big deal.



P.s I'm not a custom officer neither do i sell vehicles in cotonou

it's the truth but just like that certificate forgery was revealed and everyone is now on their heels here and there...

very soon this area will be investigated and I only pity the innocent buyers that might be exploited again for owning smuggled goods..... then it becomes a big problem with the major culprits on the run.....

it is well for now. awareness is coming

Readonee35L:

Nkan Ti O Ye Eh. O po ju nkan to ye eh loh .
Meaning. What you dont understand is more than What you will ever know.

You see this questions . How and Why . thats the koko behind everything,
that is the magic that is not disclosed to the jews.


As much as there are lots of fake papers for cars from land borders.

There are geniune walk arounds. But it will look like a mystery to you because its not your specialization.


As corrupt as nigeria is today with ceritificate forgery e.t.c
You think ordinary custom duty will be a big deal.



P.s I'm not a custom officer neither do i sell vehicles in cotonou

Congratulations from the Jews over here. May your acclaimed magic be the source of all good things to you.

All excerpts from

https://www.nairaland.com/4516266/only-legal-way-bringing-vehicles

MrMcJay:
The land borders were shut to vehicles from Benin Cotonou because it was the point of origin for most smuggled vehicles into Nigeria. Most vehicles from Cotonou do not pay Customs Duty and were usually smuggled. Hence, they decided to throw away the baby with the bath water by closing the land border.

Now, if a vehicle is bought from Cotonou and Customs duty is paid on it at Tincan to give the fraudulent impression that it was brought in from Tincan, no problem. You're attempting to help the FG achieve what they wanted howbeit illegally. It's not outrightly illegal but you're exploiting the weakness of the law. One day, you'll pay for that.

The day an overzealous customs officer insists on sighting supporting documents which you used to obtain your C-number, you may fall into a deep pit. That's the day you'll explain how a vehicle imported into Port of Cotonou found its way into Tincan Port at a time the land borders from Benin to Nigeria were closed to vehicle imports.

When an "agent" was asked to clarify the process:

oviecardealer:
is simple though is a technical process ....beside this is Nigeria I work with the authority to obtain it.......please kindly settle down and read my write up to understand it well because I have explained it before.....but for security reasons I would not explain step by step but the bottom line is at the end we get the desire results Thanks !

To which the response was:

olumide4christ:
Mr oviecardealer, you're completely wrong on this one.
Even your fellow customs agent, @saintjoel here on Nairaland has told me categorically that there is nothing like "Tincan Custom Papers for Cotonou Vehicles". He has even put that disclaimer on his threads on Nairaland due to his sincerity.
He even explained to me what agents like you do in conjunction with customs at Tincan to conjure these phony papers for Cotonou vehicles AND how the customs officials on the road can determine the fake status of these papers IF THEY WANT TO.
Mind you, I went with him to Cotonou in 2014 to get my car when the border was still open & he got original custom papers for the car from Seme border command. But according to him, that cannot happen for now due to the border closure to imported cars.

Therefore, you should come & prove @saintjoel, your colleague wrong and also answer @Cosplay's question successfully.
Otherwise, this thread of yours will be seen as a means to scam innocent Nairalanders.

From the "agent":

oviecardealer:
laughing out loud....firstly, with respect to saintjoel.nothing is impossible....beside, everybody has a limit as to how they carry out their job..we have different connections and technical know how.
I have been in nairaland for years now please take a look at all my threads, you would not see any body complied that i have don fake customs duty for them before in the past and recently that because i do not involve my self with that.....in my other trends i post pictures of vehicles and their customs duty online so any body can verify their authenticity .
I stop pasting customs document because most client want to keep their privacy
Having said that as the saying goes.... physical evident clears all doubts.....i will provide you with proves.....now i am going to obtain permeation from the clients i posted their vehicles pictures here to allow me paste the customs (C-NUMBERS ) so you and others can go to any customs command to verify if they are genuine.

GAZZUZZ:
If you have to lie and cheat to be in business, you are in the wrong line of work. Get a new job.

GAZZUZZ:



If you cannot explain it, then it is illegal.

Bizibi:
please,I want to know if it is less stressful importing cars into the country without delay?
And is the duty expensive though I heard it has been reduced.

I wouldn't have much information on that subject. Look around the section for the resident licensed agents, they would be more helpful.

Gluckdude20:

do you have a number i can reach you on?

None at the moment. My email address is in my profile, if you'd be interested in that.

and one of them had the audacity to say that the borders are closing fast, so in other words....... do fast and gimme ur money.........


very very soon,
only that innocent buyers will be left to their fate which will attract some degree of punishment maybe a fine or levy to deter others.....

I am still finding it difficult to believe that a smuggler can come online and be proud of his trade..... bragging upandan..... wetin con remain than for armed robber to come here and brandish arms and ammunition.......

.

cc saintjoel... Jelad ventures...
come and help this guy..... if there is any straight forward solution.

Interesting

adesina746:


Oga dont be aggressive with words learn to respect other people. The man only said his own opinion say yours too without insult. You dont have to call someone incompetent? You need to learn manners

I never meant to insult anyone. Sorry about that.. I'm not doing guess work it's my field.. So i know what I'm saying.

obekediamondfuto:



I tot u said u have not done it before, how come u know so much?

I've not done it before cos I don't have such clients yet. But does that means I won't have friends and colleagues at work..

omonla10:
I've not done it before cos I don't have such clients yet. But does that means I won't have friends and colleagues at work..

but how does it work.... I'm really interested in cosplay's questions.....

how do u guys work around those documents?

maybe if we know, then we will understand and appreciate what you guys do to help we Nigerians that cannot help but buy from Cotonou

Cosplay:


You want to assist the OP, that's commendable.

Could you clarify the following?

- There's a moratorium on vehicle imports into Nigeria across the land borders.

- Importers still smuggle these vehicles into the country, pay "genuine" duty and somehow come up with "genuine" customs documents for them.

My question is simple, really.

In the import documents presented to the NCS in the duty payment and clearing process, what port of entry would be listed?

Tin Can? Apapa?

If the answer is either of the above, how would the importer come up with documentation showing that the vehicle was imported via those ports?

Where would the Ship bill of lading come from? Vessel name? Voyage number? Port of loading?

Or would the import documents indicate that the vehicle entered via the land borders?

1. I'm not assisting the OP. I'm just telling him there's a way out. So he should remain optimistic and not downcast as one with no way out.
2.there's an additional penalty paid on duties wey get k leg. And it's still paid into customs account and not Tru back door.
3.what if used land borders 3 years ago and didn't pay duty.. Will u still forfeit Ur car? No.. U can still approach custom offices and process assessment notice to pay duty on such cars.
4. Theres what we call ammendment. Even some cars are wrongly manifested. Custom can still establish or add d car to any port of choice officially.
5. The customs documents that follows duty payment and other processes will cover u.. It's not a days job.

NB-I'm not a custom officer and I don't know too much about the process involved. I'm just telling you guys what a normal clearing agent knows

omonla10:

1. I'm not assisting the OP. I'm just telling him there's a way out. So he should remain optimistic and not downcast as one with no way out.
2.there's an additional penalty paid on duties wey get k leg. And it's still paid into customs account and not Tru back door.
3.what if used land borders 3 years ago and didn't pay duty.. Will u still forfeit Ur car? No.. U can still approach custom offices and process assessment notice to pay duty on such cars.
4. Theres what we call ammendment. Even some cars are wrongly manifested. Custom can still establish or add d car to any port of choice officially.
5. The customs documents that follows duty payment and other processes will cover u.. It's not a days job.

NB-I'm not a custom officer and I don't know too much about the process involved. I'm just telling you guys what a normal clearing agent knows

OK so one claims a car he just imported was imported years ago and wants to pay it's duty, tho belated? then he goes ahead to forge accompanying documents.......

wow, so breathtaking....... I'm outta here jare...

Alvin u can take the mic

omonla10:

1. I'm not assisting the OP. I'm just telling him there's a way out...

Your response is noted, but It doesn't really provide answers to the raised issues, it just leads to more questions.

For instance,

omonla10:

4. Theres what we call ammendment. Even some cars are wrongly manifested. Custom can still establish or add d car to any port of choice officially.

Port of choice? Does this mean that even without valid paperwork or documentation, it's possible for an importer aided by official customs procedure to choose an arbitrary port of entry?

omonla10:

3.what if used land borders 3 years ago and didn't pay duty.. Will u still forfeit Ur car? No.. U can still approach custom offices and process assessment notice to pay duty on such cars.

But as far as I recall at that time land border imports were still legal. I don't quite understand the point you tried to make here. Or is there an implicit suggestion that import dates could be manipulated and backdating is commonplace to evade the ban?

omonla10:
I never meant to insult anyone. Sorry about that.. I'm not doing guess work it's my field.. So i know what I'm saying.

I understand its your field i just felt u could av made ur point in a better way. May God bless our hustle Boss. Stay blessed

obekediamondfuto:



OK so one claims a car he just imported was imported years ago and wants to pay it's duty, tho belated? then he goes ahead to forge accompanying documents.......

wow, so breathtaking....... I'm outta here jare...

Alvin u can take the mic

No sit, u drive d car to them to impound permanently.. As a patriotic Nigerian.. Small time u say I'm insulting u..
Are u paying the duty into my account or what..
Cant u see where I said u'll pay penalty charges..
Bros go and resume Ur work jare, it's late already..

Cosplay:


Your response is noted, but It doesn't really provide answers to the raised issues, it just leads to more questions.

For instance,



Port of choice? Does this mean that even without valid paperwork or documentation, it's possible for an importer aided by official customs pricedure to choose an arbitrary port of entry?



But as far as I recall at that time land border imports were still legal. I don't quite understand the point you tried to make here. Or is there an implicit suggestion that import dates could be manipulated and backdating is commonplace to evade the ban?

Have u heard d word dummy before? I wanted to pay extra duty on some wooden doors last year.. They created a dummy, with a new bill of lading history and I paid d duty into it backed with original custom reports and other papers.

obekediamondfuto:



OK so one claims a car he just imported was imported years ago and wants to pay it's duty, tho belated? then he goes ahead to forge accompanying documents.......

wow, so breathtaking....... I'm outta here jare...

Alvin u can take the mic

Testing 1, 2, 3....chiii...chuu...(repeats testing process)..
This one no Dey work jor.

Cosplay:


Your response is noted, but It doesn't really provide answers to the raised issues, it just leads to more questions.

For instance,



Port of choice? Does this mean that even without valid paperwork or documentation, it's possible for an importer aided by official customs procedure to choose an arbitrary port of entry?



But as far as I recall at that time land border imports were still legal. I don't quite understand the point you tried to make here. Or is there an implicit suggestion that import dates could be manipulated and backdating is commonplace to evade the ban?

do u know 2003 cars and below are banned in Nigeria. How come customs collect penalties officially and allow them in.. Same rule applies bro.. I'm not arguing here.. It's a pity I've put myself in trouble this Monday morning cos I said what I know

omonla10:
No sit, u drive d car to them to impound permanently.. As a patriotic Nigerian.. Small time u say I'm insulting u..
Are u paying the duty into my account or what..
Cant u see where I said u'll pay penalty charges..
Bros go and resume Ur work jare, it's late already..

yeah bro, I just resumed.... unfortunately i cannot return this ur kind gesture

Before I leave, I think we need to get things straight.

it's not about whether one is insulting or being insulted, this post is about doing things within the confines of the law ..... anyone that decides that he is a constant offender with immunity in one way or the other should have the decency to stay discrete and incognito.......

the fact that the system is corrupt and accommodates all such is not any form of justification or bragging right.....

also the fact that a program intended to assist people with genuine legit issues (clearing related), is not being exploited, abused and used for illegal transactions does not give anyone the right to publicly advertise this illegal service.

it is wrong on all counts.

op try contacting saintjoel, he should be of assistance....

also I implore every other person who has come across this thread to always deal within the ethical confines of both the society and the law. it always pays off in the end... even tho it's peace of mind, that's enough pay for me.

those who genuinely and innocently found themselves in this mess..... u can liaise with legit and accountable agents.... emphasis is on accountable.... any trick that cannot be expressed in clear terms is a turn off.

those with intent to keep exploiting Grey areas and backdoor channels with a view to swindle with sweet words..... well done......
#awarenessiscoming#

obekediamondfuto:


now this right here.... is the problem with Nigeria and Nigerians.... it's not the government.... it's not the law makers... it's the mentality

cc cosplay.

now we can now see how a diabetic patient that claims he truly want to get better but cannot help himself around sugary compounds.......

if u, as a customs officer can provide a way out for smuggled cars to become legit in the country then almost all hope is lost......
vehicle - laundering

now I sincerely see no reason y people that smuggle cars should be reprimanded when the system provides a foolproof and fail-safe remedy to aid and further their cause even though it is officially a criminal offence....

diportivo and thebigkendo come and see for urself....

thebigkendo please drag valarinz along when coming..

then banky3w bring one small stout for me while coming.

The guy said he is a customs clearing agent not a customs officer. I am a clearing agent too. What he said is the correct and legitimate thing to do. Even if the car is smuggled, the law provide you go to the appropriate customs command and pay the correct duty and you are good to go. I wanted to give the op that advice but this guy has given it before me.

jaymichael:
The guy said he is a customs clearing agent not a customs officer. I am a clearing agent too. What he said is the correct and legitimate thing to do. Even if the car is smuggled, the law provide you go to the appropriate customs command and pay the correct duty and you are good to go. I wanted to give the op that advice but this guy has given it before me.

I don't have an issue with his advise but don't make it look like the norm cos it's not normal that channel was intended for extreme exceptional cases... and I really don't have an issue with people using it legitimately but as we know it people have already started using it illegally and not only that they still proclaim it.


not cool BRO, not cool @ all....

obekediamondfuto:


I don't have an issue with his advise but don't make it look like the norm cos it's not normal that channel was intended for extreme exceptional cases... and I really don't have an issue with people using it legitimately but as we know it people have already started using it illegally and not only that they still proclaim it.


not cool BRO, not cool @ all....

I am a clearing agent of 12 years experience . I am right now inside TINCAN PORTS & CARGO TERMINAL performing customs examination. I am in a better position to inform you better. Paying duty on smuggled cars is not a crime. It is even encouraged for you to approach the vehicle seat of the appropriate customs command to obtain assessment and pay the correct duty payable as long as it is not contraband or import prohibited item.
It isn't about what you feel is right or wrong, it is about what the law says it is right or permissible.

jaymichael:
I am a clearing agent of 12 years experience . I am right now inside TINCAN PORTS & CARGO TERMINAL performing customs examination. I am in a better position to inform you better. Paying duty on smuggled cars is not a crime. It is even encouraged for you to approach the vehicle seat of the appropriate customs command to obtain assessment and pay the correct duty payable as long as it is not contraband or import prohibited item.
It isn't about what you feel is right or wrong, it is about what the law says it is right or permissible.

cars brought in from the land borders....?

last time I checked those are contraband.

u pay the duty quite alright but after doctoring stuff here and there......

abi has the definition of contraband changed, or has the ban been lifted?

bros abeg I'm working as my man earlier said... let's not even go there..

obekediamondfuto:


cars brought in from the land borders....?

last time I checked those are contraband.

u pay the duty quite alright but after doctoring stuff here and there......

abi has the definition of contraband changed, or has the ban been lifted?

bros abeg I'm working as my man earlier said... let's not even go there..

Cars within the permitted age limits are not contrabands. Obtaining assessment and C-number for your smuggled cars and paying the correct duty is not doctoring of documents. Your obtaining assessment and paying correct duty has achieved what the government was trying to prevent in the first place (by banning cars importation via land borders) LOSS OF REVENUE. I am a clearing agent (you are not) I know what obtains in the importation and clearing process.
Snuggling is a crime (if you are caught). Obtaining assessment and paying correct duty for smuggled cars within the appropriate age limits isn't a crime.