Mariangeles:
The atheists and their likes believe that "religious people" ,especially Christians owe them some explanations... Nobody owes anybody any explanations on how they choose to live their lives or the path in life they choose to take (as long as they are not hurting anybody )
If you genuinely want to know about my way of life as a Christian, you can ask politely not demanding and making a mockery of what I hold sacred .

am very sorry if you feel slighted by my comment.but you wud agree wit me that most religious people wud run if their beliefs are placed under intense scrutiny.

Melian:


Social reasons is funny. Lol.

Abi na. Personally I don't even care for that but for my family sake.

Christianity never satisfied me spiritually. It's a huge mind fvck. It messes up with your mind in many ways

For example God says ask for anything and he would do it. But you have asked and he didn't do it. When you ask why they'd say it's because of your sin, your unbelieve, you asked amiss, God is testing you bla bla bla. Nothing is as is written in that book.

It's as if that God takes perverse delight in frustrating you. Even by his own words you can't hold him, he's more slippery than an eel. If you seek to hold him with his words in Isaiah, he will slip out of your hands through his words in Habakuk.

I was becoming sick. I had to choose between God and my own sanity. My sanity, my humanity won.

Melian:


Okay. Thanks.

But I disagree Esau sold his birthright. All had been predestined by God in his typical partial way. So my point exactly is God doesn't exist. If he does he's partial, selfish and wicked. Who wants that kind of father?

I appreciate ur expressions dear. However, wld u outline the features that show man's predestination by God, God's "partiality", "selfishness" and "wickedness"? In wat ways exactly has he shown these "traits"?

LordReed:


LoL! Oh my days. Why would I be angry at a fairytale? I just want to show you the illogicality of your fairytale and you mistake it for for some kind of emotion. LMFAO! Actually it's more funny than anything else. It's like reading a story written by a JSS1 student, every time he doesn't know what to do, magic comes out. LMFAO!

One thing about your likes, is that they can never stop lieing to there self.
In you lies confusion,anxiety,emptiness instead of you to admit it and seek help from God,you dey form jagaban.
Jesus has all the answer you seek sir, if only you put your pride aside.
Pride was what destroyed Satan, pride is still the same thing destroying atheists today.
Jesus is lord.

LordReed:


The Bible was not even a book until some men decided to strengthen their positions as arbiters of the spiritual, they then gathered together various written narratives and called it the Bible the infallible word of god. Really? Omnipotent god can not write his own book? He needed some power hungry humans to construct a book for him? My guy that is the definition of scam.

Can u point out these power hungry humans? Let's analyse the exhibition of their "power hungriness abi hunger.

Mujtahida:

Abi na. Personally I don't even care for that but for my family sake.

You're cracking me up real bad. But you're correct. Wouldn't mind hearing God's defense on this one. What do you think he'd say? Lol.

DavidEsq:

Can u point out these power hungry humans? Let's analyse the exhibition of their "power hungriness abi hunger.

Read about Constantine and all the councils he called for to start.

Melian:


You're cracking me up real bad. But you're correct. Wouldn't mind hearing God's defense on this one. What do you think he'd say? Lol.

'He'd say all who come into my sanctuary for social purposes shall be consigned to the depths of hell. My love and mercy endures forever'

It's actually in the bible ooo
Who destroyed the first born of Egypt
His mercies endures forever

Isn't this fuckery?

DavidEsq:

I appreciate ur expressions dear. However, wld u outline the features that show man's predestination by God, God's "partiality", "selfishness" and "wickedness"? In wat ways exactly has he shown these "traits"?

I stated these things in my original post. In prophecies, in dreams..take Joseph's, for example.

LordReed:


LoL my guy go, read the real history of the Israelites and learn the true source of your beliefs.

Please can you open my eyes to it. The only source of authority I know is the Bible. Let me in on any other authoritative source if there is.

Still help with this question on your case:
.

If you don't know where you're from then can you know where you're going?.

D1official:

One thing about your likes, is that they can never stop lieing to there self.
In you lies confusion,anxiety,emptiness instead of you to admit it and seek help from God,you dey form jagaban.
Jesus has all the answer you seek sir, if only you put your pride aside.
Pride was what destroyed Satan, pride is still the same thing destroying atheists today.
Jesus is lord.

LoL. I doubt you know the origins of your religion. You are just perpetuating a myth, a hoax, a scam. I just can't stop laughing at this religion thing.

Mujtahida:

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Isn't this fuckery?

All the elements of it. Lol.

Uchenaija:


Please can you open my eyes to it. The only source of authority I know is the Bible. Let me in on any other authoritative source if there is.

Still help with this question on your case:
.

Start here:

https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=6-VxwC5rQtwC&redir_esc=y

Learn about the origin of your beliefs then come back and ask me questions.

LordReed:


Start here:

https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=6-VxwC5rQtwC&redir_esc=y

It's asking me to sign up & so forth. Can you kindly copy & paste whatever is it here so I can read.

And you've always been skipping this question

If you don't know where you're from then can you know where you're heading?

Uchenaija:


It's asking me to sign up & so forth. Can you kindly copy & paste whatever is it here so I can read.

And you've always been skipping this question

If you don't know where you're from then can you know where you're heading?

Find your own roots then you can come and ask me.

LordReed:


LoL. I doubt you know the origins of your religion. You are just perpetuating a myth, a hoax, a scam. I just can't stop laughing at this religion thing.

Athiests look intelligent only on keys, all the ones I have met are all in bandage. Its obvious that the reason why an atheist can't find God, is the same self reason why an armed robber can't report to the police station.
Enjoy ur rebellion why it lasts sir and keep lieing to urself.
Pls dnt quote me again bro.

Uchenaija:


It's asking me to sign up & so forth. Can you kindly copy & paste whatever is it here so I can read.

And you've always been skipping this question

If you don't know where you're from then can you know where you're heading?

An excerpt:

After a century of exhaustive investigation, all respectable archaeologists have given up hope of recovering any context that would make Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob credible "historical figures" [...] archaeological investigation of Moses and the Exodus has similarly been discarded as a fruitless pursuit.

LordReed:


Find your own roots then you can come and ask me.

I know my roots. I know they're evidence to back the authority of the source of Bible.

D1official:

Athiests look intelligent only on keys, all the ones I have met are all in bandage. Its obvious that the reason why an atheist can't find God, is the same self reason why an armed robber can't report to the police station.
Enjoy ur rebellion why it lasts sir and keep lieing to urself.
Pls dnt quote me again bro.

As I have quoted you now what will happen? LoL

You have no strong arguments that's why you are resigned to saying dumb shit. LMFAO!

Uchenaija:


I know my roots. I know they're evidence to back the authority of the source of Bible.

What evidence? LoL

LordReed:


An excerpt:

After a century of exhaustive investigation, all respectable archaeologists have given up hope of recovering any context that would make Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob credible "historical figures" [...] archaeological investigation of Moses and the Exodus has similarly been discarded as a fruitless pursuit.

But archeology has other evidence that supports the existence of other biblical figures, right? That even supports the existence of the scrolls? That also support that they scrolls where written at different generations, & yet were harmonious?

Uchenaija:


But archeology has other evidence that supports the existence of other biblical figures, right? That even supports the existence of the scrolls? That also support that they scrolls where written at different generations, & yet were harmonious?

Which historical figures have more import than Abraham and Moses? If those could not be verified what root does your belief have?

I can point out more for you to explore. Find out the origins of Yahweh.

Melian:


I stated these things in my original post. In prophecies, in dreams..take Joseph's, for example.

Has God-enabled prophecies not come to pass? What prophecies are u referring to? Is it prophecies of "men of God"?
What are ur issues with Joseph's situation precisely? If u aren't clear, how wld ur issues be understood?

LordReed:


What evidence? LoL

ONE thing is certain. For you to accept a book as being from God, it would have to be truthful and accurate in everything it says. The people and places to which it refers should actually have existed. Would you not agree? How does the Bible measure up in this regard?

Take just one example. The Bible identifies Pontius Pilate as the governor of Judea during the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ. (Luke 3:1, 2) But did Pilate actually live and, if so, was he really the ruler of Judea?

For a long time no confirmation was available. Then, in 1961, a remarkable discovery was made at Caesarea. An inscribed stone was uncovered that was originally part of a temple honoring the emperor Tiberius. The Latin inscription states: “Pontius Pilate, the Prefect of Judea, has dedicated to the people of Caesarea a temple in honor of Tiberius.” The Bible’s historical accuracy was confirmed! And there are many, many other examples that show that the Bible is accurate and reliable historically and geographically.

‘Wait a minute,’ you might say. ‘The fact that a book is accurate does not prove that it is from God!’ True. The Bible’s accuracy does not in itself prove divine inspiration. However, the Bible contains evidence that proves it is far more than an accurate history book. Thus, many sincere Bible students have become convinced that the Bible really is from God. You deserve to see what led them to that conviction. Let us examine five different lines of evidence.

Internal Harmony

Imagine that 40 people were asked to write sections of a book. Their backgrounds were varied. Some were well educated, while others were humble farmers or shepherds. Further, not all of them knew one another. In fact, most of them lived at different times in history and in different places. What do you think would be the chances that their writings would all harmonize, even in the smallest details? ‘Impossible!’ you say? Well, these are the very circumstances surrounding the writing of the Bible.

Now consider as just one example of the harmony of the writers their consistent portrayal of Jehovah God. As you can read in the Bible, its various parts provide a harmonious description of Jehovah God as to both his person and his personality. He is timeless, infinite. (Psalm 90:2; Habakkuk 1:12; Revelation 10:6; 15:3) He is invisible to human eyes. (Exodus 33:20; John 1:18; 1 Timothy 1:17) The Bible writers, when given visions of his presence, describe great dignity and majesty, as well as serenity, order and beauty. (Exodus 24:9-11; Ezekiel 1:26-28; Revelation 4:1-3) Throughout the Bible God’s dominant qualities are repeatedly shown to be love, wisdom, justice and power.

Surely, the internal harmony of the Bible​—despite its many writers—​is an indication that it is from a source higher than man.

Scientific Accuracy

Now let us consider one or two of the Bible’s comments on scientific matters. Why are these significant? For several reasons: (1) They harmonize with scientific facts; (2) they reflect knowledge that was beyond the available human knowledge at the time they were written; and (3) they are completely free from the mistaken views held at the time.

Perhaps you have heard that the Bible says that our earth hangs upon nothing and is round. (Job 26:7; Isaiah 40:22) ‘Why is that so remarkable?’ you may ask. Keep in mind that these Biblical comments agree with proved scientific fact and they are in contrast to ancient myths about the shape of the earth and how it was supported. Why, up till just a few hundred years ago most men, even those involved in science, believed that the earth was flat! So it is extraordinary that the Bible writers knew these facts about the earth thousands of years ago and that without modern scientific instruments!

Here is another example. At the time of Moses it was the custom in Egypt to use human or animal excrement as a remedy for certain ailments. Furthermore, Moses was raised in Egypt and was “instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians.” (Acts 7:22) But the comments he wrote at Deuteronomy 23:12, 13 are completely free from the mistaken​—in fact, harmful—​medical practices of Egypt. According to these words, in ancient Israel human excrement was to be considered unclean, to be buried away from populated areas and water supplies. As you know, modern medical science agrees.

Are not these examples a further indication that the information recorded by the Bible writers must have come from a source higher than themselves?

Candor

Something else that identifies the Bible as coming from God is the candor of its writers. Why? For one thing, it is contrary to fallen human nature to admit one’s mistakes, especially in writing. In this, the Bible is distinguished from other ancient books. But, more than that, the candor of its writers assures us of their overall honesty. After all, they would not likely reveal their weaknesses and then make false claims about other things, would they? If they were going to falsify anything, would it not be unfavorable information about themselves? So, then, the candor of the Bible writers adds weight to their claim that God guided them in what they wrote down.​—2 Timothy 3:16.

As an example of such candor, let us consider Moses. Although he was leader of the nation of Israel, mediator of the Law covenant, prophet and judge, he did not lead Israel into the Promised Land. Why not? According to Numbers 20:1-13, Moses made a serious mistake. Read for yourself how he “acted undutifully” and “began to speak rashly with his lips,” failing to magnify God’s name. Who recorded the account in the Bible book of Numbers? Moses, who candidly made a permanent record of his own failings!​—Deuteronomy 32:50-52; Psalm 106:32, 33.

Consider next the shortcomings of the apostles of Jesus Christ. At times they were slow to understand (Matthew 16:5-12), showed little faith (Matthew 17:18-20) and revealed a tendency to seek prominence. (Matthew 18:1-6; 20:20-28) Why, they even abandoned Jesus on the night he was arrested! (Matthew 26:56) Did you notice that all these shortcomings were recorded by Matthew, one of the 12 apostles?

Do you not agree that the candor of the Bible writers is further evidence that the Bible is more than a mere human book and evidently contains ‘not the word of men, but the word of God’?​—1 Thessalonians 2:13.

Preservation

The preservation of the Scriptures also indicates that the Bible really is from God. Consider these two reasons:

(1) Since the Bible writers originally wrote on perishable material, the Scriptures had to be recopied by hand numerous times throughout the centuries in order to be preserved for future generations. Why is this so remarkable? Not only because there was the risk of human error but also because there were deliberate efforts to tamper with the text. Yet the Bible has come down to us with amazing accuracy, as the discovery of ancient Bible manuscripts confirms.*

(2) The Bible’s preservation is all the more amazing when you consider that it has survived fierce opposition. There were times when popes and councils prohibited the reading of the Bible under penalty of excommunication. Many Bible lovers were burned at the stake. But the Bible survived all this opposition and became the world’s best-seller.

No other book in human history has survived with accuracy despite repeated recopying by imperfect humans and centuries of bitter attacks by enemies. Is this not convincing proof that the Bible contains “the saying of Jehovah,” which “endures forever”?​—1 Peter 1:24, 25.

Prophecy

Perhaps the strongest proof that the Bible is from God is the fulfillment of its many prophecies. What man is there that can foretell the future with unfailing, pinpoint accuracy, hundreds, even thousands, of years in advance? Men have difficulty in predicting the weather more than a few hours in advance!

‘But how do we know that Bible prophecies were really written in advance?’ you may ask. To answer that, turn to Isaiah 13:19, 20 and read Isaiah’s prophecy regarding the destruction of ancient Babylon. Notice that Isaiah did not foretell just the destruction of Babylon. He also said: “She [Babylon] will never be inhabited.” Babylon is desolate to this day. How could Isaiah possibly have written his prophecy after the fulfillment?

Furthermore, although Babylon was conquered by the Medes and the Persians in 539 B.C.E., Isaiah’s prophecy was not completely fulfilled at that time. In fact, there were still people living in Babylon down to the first century C.E. (1 Peter 5:13) Apparently, it was not until the fourth century C.E. that Babylon became finally desolated, thus completely fulfilling Isaiah’s words. There is no doubt that Isaiah wrote his book before that, for even the Dead Sea Scrolls (Bible manuscripts first discovered in 1947) contain a copy of Isaiah dating from the first or second century B.C.E.

The Bible contains scores of other long-range prophecies that were fulfilled. More than that, a study of the Bible reveals that it contains prophecies that you are seeing fulfilled today. (Consider the accompanying box.) Can there be any doubt that the Bible writers spoke from God?

After reviewing the evidence, what do you conclude? At the very least, does not the Bible merit your investigation? There is compelling reason for you to investigate it. As we noted in the previous article, never before in history has there been a greater need for reliable guidance in human affairs. The Bible contains principles that, if applied, can help you to cope with economic hardships, live peaceably with your fellowman and build a happy family life. What about the global problems that are beyond human control? The Bible outlines the permanent solution to be effected by God’s Kingdom under Christ in the near future

IbrahimDamola:
This one go pain abooki and yoruba muslims.

Why should that pained? In Europe thousand of souls accept Islam periodically, they acknowledge the creator(God or Allah) as one, the absolute and eternal, He beget not nor was He begotten, and there is no one like unto Him.

My ultimate and compassionate prayer for him is that, God should hasten his guidance on him

LordReed:


Read about Constantine and all the councils he called for to start.

Thank u very much my brother. The first question we must ask ourselves is this: was emperor Constantine a Christian according to bible standards?
Firstly he was a ruler of Rome.
Secondly, he was the one who made Christmas to be recognised in Christianity today but was it a Christian based festival?
He was also the one who incorporated the use of the cross into Christianity, when history (which is now at ur doorstep-thanks to Google) tells us that Jesus was hung on a tree (a word which is the direct meaning of stick and not cross) in several languages worldwide.
Now let's analyse these issues bit by bit and see how the rulers of this world have sought to adulterate the bible, after it has been written in the original Hebrew and Greek languages.

LordReed:


Which historical figures have more import than Abraham and Moses? If those could not be verified what root does your belief have?

I can point out more for you to explore. Find out the origins of Yahweh.

Are you saying the present Jews have no connection with laws of Moses or do not have cultural observance in relation to Abraham

...and you body say there's no historical evidence

Uchenaija

No take laugh kill me. These are your strong points? LMFAO!

LordReed:


Read Genesis 18.

The three men is God right. You might as well say the burning bush is also God.

If you acknowledge that God appeared to Abrahams, there won't be any need of all the stories I had told before now. You don't believe. You don't accept. Yet, you won't let him be.

LordReed:
Uchenaija

No take laugh kill me. These are your strong points? LMFAO!

Please dont make me start been sarcastic & insulting.

Let's be logical. I have given you my points, quote then & respond to them logically or simply end the discussion

DavidEsq:

Thank u very much my brother. The first question we must ask ourselves is this: was emperor Constantine a Christian according to bible standards?
Firstly he was a ruler of Rome.
Secondly, he was the one who made Christmas to be recognised in Christianity today but was it a Christian based festival?
He was also the one who incorporated the use of the cross into Christianity, when history (which is now at ur doorstep-thanks to Google) tells us that Jesus was hung on a tree (a word which is the direct meaning of stick and not cross) in several languages worldwide.
Now let's analyse these issues bit by bit and see how the rulers of this world have sought to adulterate the bible, after it has been written in the original Hebrew and Greek languages.

Dude there was nothing called bible until people arranged a canon. So what if Constantine was not a Christian according your standard you cannot escape the fact that Constantine was very instrumental in the formation of the bible you read today. And not only him, many power hungry men through the ages have manipulated all these writings for their own gain. These scriptures you read are a mere fairytale, myths that have been refreshed.

LordReed:


As I have quoted you now what will happen? LoL

You have no strong arguments that's why you are resigned to saying dumb shit. LMFAO!

When you know the truth,you don't argue sir.
How many times have you argued about your name,if the person you telling refuses to believe you only let him wallow in foolishness.
How can someone who claims not to believe in God live all his life debating about the same God he doesn't believe in. Its either he is a lunatic or lieing to himself.
Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God...
I guess your so called story book just depicted your real condition.
Am so sorry to say this bro, but you are a fool you only need wisdom.