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Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by phreakabitoo: 8:42am On Oct 01, 2018
Boxer007:



Gay rights for all in Nigeria. Peace!

You seem to suffer cognitive inhibition.

Just how would gay rights improve the productivity or financial situation in Nigeria?

Intricate issues such as these, require us to think with our heads not our sexual organs.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by CarGuideNG: 8:43am On Oct 01, 2018
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by pressplay411(m): 8:44am On Oct 01, 2018
Tajbol4splend:



In fact it's very simple, even the 21st century children can tell, it's bad leadership and bad followership

True. The problem is obvious but accomplishing the obvious solution is the challenge.
Because of selfishness and greed.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 8:45am On Oct 01, 2018
Timil:
Nigerian's pray, fast and conduct vigils like no other country yet they suffer and their country rot like no other country.

Instead of taking some necessary actions they are dependent on a God who can never come down to clean up their mess and make their nation better.

The average Nigerian has seen religion as the way to success where as the way to success is with our thoughts and our actions.

Nigerian's want a better life but they are not ready to do the maths that begets a better life.

You can pray, fast and conduct vigils from today till 2050 Nigeria will still keep on retrogressing because the only thing you do is pray and hope on God to give you a better country.

God will not come down to govern us, God won't come down to fight boko haram, God won't come down to give us a working system, God won't come down to give us strong institutions.

We must do all this by ourself if we want a better Nigeria, God won't do them for us.

"Action is the key, not prayer and fasting"

Sadly people will think you are an astiest for saying the truth
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by giftedben: 8:48am On Oct 01, 2018
olusola200:
Point of correction Mr pastor

Nigeria is great but not greater
We are better than more than 20 countries

Gone are the days when deeper life members don't watch television but now they have smart tv and dstv also participate in phoning programs

Start naming them.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 8:49am On Oct 01, 2018
brenister10:


Wetin dis one dey say sef. Why the diversion from the main issue
He didn’t mention Canada, Uk USA these are also diversed nations
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 8:51am On Oct 01, 2018
Boxer007:


My dear, calm down. You need a kiss. Gay men make the best lovers and make the best politicians ( fact). . Nigeria will remain backwards until we have full gay rights for all

Ok, now change topic
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Paul112(m): 8:51am On Oct 01, 2018
It is only in Nigeria that an illiterate becomes d president of d country, a country ruled by an illiterate president and his fellow illiterate cabals will not move forward. D way forward to greatness in Nigeria is that Nigerians should stop electing illiterates as presidents or anyone who has a bad record, this nonsense does not happen in other countries. The president of america is a graduate, d president of france is a graduate, d president of france is a graduate, so many world leaders are graduate bt ours and its cabinet members are bunch of failures who refused to finish primary 6 bt claimed they studied abroad without undergoing d mandatory one year National Service. When d brain is sick what happens to d rest body organs? Will they function well? I rest my case
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Clementoke(m): 8:53am On Oct 01, 2018
olusola200:
Point of correction Mr pastor

Nigeria is great but not greater
We are better than more than 20 countries

Gone are the days when deeper life members don't watch television but now they have smart tv and dstv also participate in phoning programs

Bros, what's d connection between Nigeria's greatness and Deeper lifers watching TV. SMH
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by winj3: 8:54am On Oct 01, 2018
Proudlyngwa:
grin
Nigeria's major problem is Education and Orientation,
we have a wrong concept of what Government is supposed to be.
I beg you went too far

Nigeria's problem is squarely about CITIZEN MENTALITY!
-You cannot keep producing children you cannot feed or cater for and dump them in the system while crying leadership is to blame!
-You cannot spend most of the time meant for innovation, development and progress worshiping juju and other stupid fake religions.
-You cannot allow criminals enter government and then shout that they are bad leaders!
-you cannot allow foreigners into you country to exploit and dominate you while you continue to treat them as untouchables.

Change the ape mentality of Nigerians and the country will change!

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Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by IbrahimDamola: 8:55am On Oct 01, 2018
Anybody who thinks nigeria should remain one is daft in the head. They are very mad.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Teeboi56: 8:56am On Oct 01, 2018
Okay
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by dimexy247(m): 8:58am On Oct 01, 2018
OkaNaUbe:


inexplicable


Use your sense before quoting me. Using a synonym for my word is tautology. So if you don’t mind. Get the f*ck off my post.


Too know gang. Awon werey!
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by mightguy(m): 8:59am On Oct 01, 2018
dazzlingd:
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where your ancestors evolved from.

Nigeria is not great because of poor mentality like you, the ones who blame everyone else for their failures but will never contribute anything to success. Shame on you, you masquerade of failure.
stop speaking in English. People like u where here with ur big Grammer and someone without cert is ruling u
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by mamawin(f): 9:00am On Oct 01, 2018
natureem:
Hmmm, how can there be unity when right from homes, some children are loved more than the others hereby setting them on hate race.

when some set of few rich folks have an estate with gates to separate themselves from the rest due to fear of the unknown.

when some so called voted leaders who could barely own a plot of land now live their dream by putting under close detention what was meant for the public.

This issue can only be fixed from homes, when parents love their children equally, wives are satisfied with what their husbands bring home legitimately and leaders live up to the expectation of the mandates given to them
Nice one, clap clap. Let me add this when family and folks do not burden themselves with unnecessary favour, just because their kinsman is holding one office or the other
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Timil: 9:04am On Oct 01, 2018
Ezechinwa:


Sadly people will think you are an astiest for saying the truth
I'm actually a deist but what I said up there is the simple truth.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Iyajison: 9:04am On Oct 01, 2018
olusola200:
Point of correction Mr pastor

Nigeria is great but not greater
We are better than more than 20 countries

Gone are the days when deeper life members don't watch television but now they have smart tv and dstv also participate in phoning programs

Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by felaismyhero(m): 9:04am On Oct 01, 2018
natureem:
Hmmm, how can there be unity when right from homes, some children are loved more than the others hereby setting them on hate race.

when some set of few rich folks have an estate with gates to separate themselves from the rest due to fear of the unknown.

when some so called voted leaders who could barely own a plot of land now live their dream by putting under close detention what was meant for the public.

This issue can only be fixed from homes, when parents love their children equally, wives are satisfied with what their husbands bring home legitimately and leaders live up to the expectation of the mandates given to them
why are you guys not always realistic? there is no nation where all you said is completely achieved.nigeria being great does not mean d corrupt people have all died,or that families are now better.it only means the rite people have power,it means corrupt people cant go far up on the leadership ladder.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by abbeyty(m): 9:06am On Oct 01, 2018
Boxer007:


My dear, calm down. You need a kiss. Gay men make the best lovers and make the best politicians ( fact). . Nigeria will remain backwards until we have full gay rights for all
Alimi the run away gay is that you?

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Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by felaismyhero(m): 9:13am On Oct 01, 2018
Timil:
I'm actually a deist but what I said up there is the simple truth.
so you,wat actions are u planning to take concerning this nation?
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Ejebleje: 9:15am On Oct 01, 2018
olusola200:
Point of correction Mr pastor

Nigeria is great but not greater
We are better than more than 20 countries

Gone are the days when deeper life members don't watch television but now they have smart tv and dstv also participate in phoning programs

Bros,when you’re sober, read this comment of yours again and again.
Please I insist you have to be sober. Only then would you realize you didn’t make sense.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Zoroaster: 9:24am On Oct 01, 2018
This man is part of the problem
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Proudlyngwa(m): 9:25am On Oct 01, 2018
winj3:

I beg you went too far

Nigeria's problem is squarely about CITIZEN MENTALITY!
-You cannot keep producing children you cannot feed or cater for and dump them in the system while crying leadership is to blame!
-You cannot spend most of the time meant for innovation, development and progress worshiping juju and other stupid fake religions.
-You cannot allow criminals enter government and then shout that they are bad leaders!
-you cannot allow foreigners into you country to exploit and dominate you while you continue to treat them as untouchables.

Change the ape mentality of Nigerians and the country will change!
so how did I go too far
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by abbeyty(m): 9:29am On Oct 01, 2018
mightguy:
stop speaking in English. People like u where here with ur big Grammer and someone without cert is ruling u
grin grin
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by winj3: 9:32am On Oct 01, 2018
Proudlyngwa:

so how did I go too far
Nigeria's major problem is NOT "Education and Orientation" - to far, come down to very BASIC level...COMMONSENSE!

Nigeria has more university graduates than several developed countries, in the UK for example most people who drive the economy and social agenda are working class with only GCSE and trade qualifications!

They know to have 1 or 2 kids according to their earning power, they know to refuse bad governments, they know to observe basic etiquette and norms, they know to develop farming, simple innovations, clean environment, sewage systems, not steal infrastructure meant for their own use.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by OyinO: 9:37am On Oct 01, 2018
He is one of the reasons Nizooria is not great and may remain a zoogeria shithole for another 58 years to come. His Deeper Life fellowsheeps are living examples. 90% of them are wretched peasantry followsheeps programmed to love poverty and never involve in any positive action in the society except it is pertaining to the retreats and Moonday to Sunday fellowsheeping.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Iamvictor(m): 9:40am On Oct 01, 2018
olusola200:
Point of correction Mr pastor

Nigeria is great but not greater
We are better than more than 20 countries

Gone are the days when deeper life members don't watch television but now they have smart tv and dstv also participate in phoning programs
You are extremely dumb!
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by CharlesJok3r: 9:42am On Oct 01, 2018
Timil:
Nigerian's pray, fast and conduct vigils like no other country yet they suffer and their country rot like no other country.

Instead of taking some necessary actions they are dependent on a God who can never come down to clean up their mess and make their nation better.

The average Nigerian has seen religion as the way to success where as the way to success is with our thoughts and our actions.

Nigerian's want a better life but they are not ready to do the maths that begets a better life.

You can pray, fast and conduct vigils from today till 2050 Nigeria will still keep on retrogressing because the only thing you do is pray and hope on God to give you a better country.

God will not come down to govern us, God won't come down to fight boko haram, God won't come down to give us a working system, God won't come down to give us strong institutions.

We must do all this by ourself if we want a better Nigeria, God won't do them for us.

"Action is the key, not prayer and fasting"
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by figure007(m): 9:48am On Oct 01, 2018
olusola200:
Point of correction Mr pastor

Nigeria is great but not greater
We are better than more than 20 countries

Gone are the days when deeper life members don't watch television but now they have smart tv and dstv also participate in phoning programs
your type are always looking for ways to criticize instead of comment neutrarily to what he said... What has is saying got to do with television and handset? Grow up man
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by computerglobal(m): 10:11am On Oct 01, 2018
RaphtechSolar:
Nigeria Will be great one day

Yes it will be
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by buJu234: 10:19am On Oct 01, 2018
Let's call a spade a spade, let's stop all these spiritual gimmicks and big big grammar, let's face the fact.

Statistics have it that 1 out of every 5 black people you see in the western world is a Nigerian, these are the people that are making wave in the black community in the western world. And they are all 99.9% from and given birth to in southern Nigeria (SW,SE, SS).

If these guys can do well in other people's countries why can they do well here? Reason being the quota system (that's destroys creativity ) will never allow them. and this system is controlled by the Northern Nigeria leaders.

whether you like it or not Nigeria is controlled by northern Nigeria, which means if northern Nigeria is not ok, the nation as a whole will not.
Expect for what we are seeing today where southern Nigeria is far developed that northern Nigeria.
Why because southern Nigeria encourages everyone to think for himself, attend school, very little quota systems.

Let the Northern Nigeria leaders change their leadership style from selective quota system to an inclusive democratic Islamic system like United Arab Emirates, Qatar and what the newly Saudi Arabia crown prince is doing to Saudi Arabia now.

Not the leadership system of the Pakistani, Yemeni , old Saudi Arabia Islamic government, that favour's only a few.

What happened to the Alimajeri schools that Past President Jonathan built? Inside those Alimajeri boys lies the future billionaires, captain of industry, that can change Northern Nigeria.

You call some states educational disadvantage, giving them low Jamb marks to enter into university, where by killing their brain power. That's why its hard for them to succeed in private enterprise ( every country grows on private enterprise not government funded enterprise ) that involves heavy competition, they only succed on monopoly and government favours. These can't help them become a global brand. Because all global brands must face tough competitions, the world is a global village.

Every developed country has developed based on the development of the people, human resources not natural resources.

That's why with all the crude oil in Saudi Arabia it can't be compared with Israel that has zero oil deposits.

Until the northern Nigeria leadership change from quota system to full human development for all northern people, where everyone is equal, has 100% right to school, where birth control is put in place, where Islamic teaching that said u can only marry more than one wife IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT!!.
Where making sure that the educational budget is higher than going to Mecca budgets etc.

Until these happen, the development of Nigeria as a whole will not be there.

If you check, the statistics, All the poverty, sicknesses indices are very high in northern Nigeria compare to the south.

Today the GDP that made Nigeria the biggest economy in Africa, over 90% of the Non Oil sectors are controlled by southern Nigeria. Is it Nollywood, Music, creative arts, banking, services etc.

These 're what you get when everyone is allowed to think for himself and given opportunity to succeed in respective of your religious view.

Get this, if you allow a person to develop his brain during his youthful days, when difficult times come in his adulthood, he will devise a positive solution but when you give a person too much waivers during his youthful days, where by making his brain power ineffective, when he faces problem in his adulthood, he will devise negative solutions like depression, suicide bombing etc.

Since 1967, northern Nigeria has been controlling the leadership of Nigeria (directly / indirectly ), yet the region is the poorest of all the regions. Why?? leadership systems.
Re: Nigeria @ 58: Why Nigeria Is Not Great – Pastor Kumuyi by Boxer007(m): 10:20am On Oct 01, 2018
Ioannes:


I have heard you. Now scram before I have you banned for promoting gay on Nairaland.

You quote me again, I'll use the report button.


I am not promopting Gay. Simply saying Nigeria will never be independent until we support Gay right. Nigeria

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