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Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 7:42pm On Nov 11, 2018 |
Iamdazzle:what happens to the life of a Christian who dies on his way to attaining perfection? |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:29pm On Nov 11, 2018 |
To answer this question, I'd like you to answer this first. Can Jesus be possessed by a demon? |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:40pm On Nov 11, 2018 |
For a believer to be possessed by a demon. It is either it shares the same temple (the believer's body) with the Holy Spirit OR the Holy Spirit would have to leave a believer so the demon can enter. For that to happen, the demon will have to undo what God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit have done on the believer. The devil is powerless as far as a believer is concerned... 1 Like |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 8:48pm On Nov 11, 2018 |
Perfectbeing:Can the holyspirit share the same body with a demon? |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Perfectbeing(m): 10:26pm On Nov 11, 2018 |
lensdam:I don't see why that question is directed at me... |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by YAHREIGNS: 10:45pm On Nov 11, 2018 |
lensdam:It is true. We are with Christ above principalities and powers. But that authority is subject to alot of dynamics. The devil is has a claim of right over the earth in this age too. A claim best described by Enoch (who is reverred as a prophet in the bible) Its hard to explain the demonic without mentioning the hidden/lost scripture ... Enoch XV The earth which we live in is still under the dominance of the devil. Meaning, those principalities and powers are actually rulers with all the priviledges of authority - for now. Its not vain talk. Christ referred to their Prince as "tell Prince of this world"... Note how He describes him as though he had power to do his will to some extent ... John 14:30 | The balance of power keeps shifting according to season while this age persists. The balance of power changes according to season. There is seasons when God gives power against the enemy and seasons when the enemy will have power over you. It happened to Christ on earth too. You could see the progression as He descended into Jerusalem just before His death. He knew power had shifted. His sit over the principalities was earned on His deathbed. When he descended to the powers that held him dead and men captive and defeated them. But you realize the job is progressive, with His work as the foundation. Thats why we still die even though Christ says he took the keys to life and death. See Revelation. .. ( But not for long) Revelation 20:14 | That Christ that sits over the principalities and Kings of the earth is sitting over them as their ruler, and they mete out their judgement as His subordinates - His rulers. Their destruction is coming at a near future. Only then will Christians switch roles with the powers of darkness, mete out judgement too. Daniel 7 is a prophecy about these principalities/Princes and kings of the earth ... The whole of Daniel is a good read. Daniel 7: The power of the saints is like the power of a heir over his inheritance while the father left his property in the hands of trustees, to tend to it until the child heir becomes of age ... the trustees are evil though That's why Christ left us with this parable ... It's the picture of the dynamics between the saints and the powers of darkness ... Mathew 21That's exactly what has been happening ... |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Perfectbeing(m): 11:00pm On Nov 11, 2018 |
Iamdazzle: Being in a state of uncontrollable anger doesn't mean a christian is possessed. Anger is one of the weakness of the flesh. So is hunger and fatigue. A believer is hungry or tired doesn't mean he's possessed by a demon.. 1 Like |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Perfectbeing(m): 11:29pm On Nov 11, 2018 |
After the fall of man, the serpent (Satan) was cursed to feed on the dust of the earth. Man was created from the earth. The Satan was to feed off the earthly desires of man. That's how he tempts us. By influencing our earthly desires.. The devil feed off our earth desires and nature (which doesn't change even when we're saved). The devil can tempt even through our desire for food, sleep, fame sex, wealth etc.. That's how he tried to tempt Jesus. That's where his power lies. And that where it stops for us Christians.. The devil nor his demons can never posses a Christian. For him to posses us he'll have to upsurp the Holy spirit from His abode (us). But he can influence us through our earthly desires and nature. While he's powerless to us, we shouldn't forget he's cunny and wise and we shouldn't be ignorant of his devices.. 1 Like |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Nobody: 9:32am On Nov 12, 2018 |
Perfectbeing: Yes indeed... Explains why people in a heightened state of anger do crazy things and turn back to say 'I dont know how or why I did it, blame it on the devil' Oh sure, perhaps it must have been the spirit of anger that must have possessed them for the time of acting out unseemingly. For everytime you do something you wouldnt rather under normal circumstances, forget it something else has overcome you. Thats why the bible talks about self control and not giving place to the devil and that we take heed lest we fall. This is not something to argue about, you can choose to believe whatever you like, it doesnt change fact. Peace... |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Nobody: 9:38am On Nov 12, 2018 |
lensdam: My dear, only God decides, I cant expressly say but what I do know is that works alone cant save anyone. You must have faith and believe in Jesus Christ as the only way to God and the propitiation for our sins. 1 Like |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Perfectbeing(m): 2:26pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Iamdazzle: People also do things they're not capable of doing ordinarily when they're in a heightened state of fear and there's an adrenaline rush. Does that mean they're possessed by a demon too? |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Nobody: 4:31pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Perfectbeing: You equate excessive fear to anger now OK but just so you know, there is also a spirit of fear which possesses people, so yeah, a heightened state of fear is akin to possession. A true Christian must not fear. 2Timothy 1:7 by that scripture you can attest 'there is a spirit of fear' and Sir, it can possess anyone if you allow it. This is my final reply, tired of explaining thesame thing over and over. A closed mindset helps noone. |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Perfectbeing(m): 6:01pm On Nov 12, 2018 |
Iamdazzle: Being a believer doesn't mean we have a perfect body. In this weak body we are (believer or not)ted to it's weakness such as pain, fear, hunger, loneliness, anger, lust, depression, sadness.etc. Even Jesus felt pain, hunger, fear, sadness and loneliness on the cross.. But his immense love for us overshadowed all of these weakness.. A believer feels fearful or angry doesn't mean he's possessed by a demon... He's only human.. This is also my last post.. |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 2:56pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
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Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 9:02pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
How is our body the temple of God? |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 4:22pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
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Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Kenneth4u205(m): 11:37pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Mathew 16:23 Jesus rebuked apostle peter.calling him satan. GET BEHIND ME SATAN,FOR YOU ARE A STUMBLING BLOCK TO ME .YOU DO NOT HAVE THE CONCERN OF GOD AT HEART BUT RATHER T HAT OF FLESH AND BLOOD. Peter was possessed by demons AT that point in time .this demons want to discourage jesus from dying ,using Peters body as vessel. But jesus saw the demons speaking through Peter.this shows that a christian can be possessed by demons if he is not alert in prayer and holiness always.So a christian can be possessed by demons.man is made up of spirit ,body and soul.it's possible for the holy spirit to be in your spirit while demons residing in your body . |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 2:57pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
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Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Perfectbeing(m): 2:16pm On Nov 26, 2018 |
Kenneth4u205: Was peter with the holy spirit at that time? |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by JJOF(m): 2:47pm On Nov 26, 2018 |
Iamdazzle:Are u trying 2 to say dat wenever a xtian sins, the holy spirit leaves him? |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by Nobody: 3:07pm On Nov 26, 2018 |
JJOF: What did you call Him? Holy Spirit What is sin? Unholiness/Uncleanness ... There, figure your answer out. |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 12:03pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
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Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 9:09pm On Dec 09, 2018 |
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Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by brodalokie: 5:28am On Dec 10, 2018 |
Jesus to Peter: Get thee behind me Satan. Paul: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood. |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 1:27pm On Jan 27, 2019 |
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Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by orisa37: 1:38pm On Jan 27, 2019 |
Yes. When he or She is not Born Again. |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 4:05pm On Jan 27, 2019 |
orisa37:being born again is what makes one a Christian in the first place.so the question now is that is it possible for a born again to be under the influence of the devil? |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by orisa37: 7:49pm On Jan 27, 2019 |
lensdam:. Christianity is the Undergraduate level. Born Again is the Graduate. Jesus died for our sins that all Born Agains may have Power to ban Evil from around them. |
Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 10:28pm On Jan 27, 2019 |
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Re: Can Demons Possess A Christian? by lensdam(m): 1:16pm On Feb 03, 2019 |
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