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Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by Eponymous: 8:27am On Dec 15, 2018 |
HardMirror:Hardmirror, If I remember correctly, you once said had experienced word of knowledge via the Holy Ghost. How do you explain that without reference to him. |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 8:56am On Dec 15, 2018 |
HardMirror:Did God create the toothpick, wooden bed, chair and table? SMH. What are you on? Do you at all understand the question that Ranchhoddas asked and how that response was put forward Or are you just plainly eaten up with jealousy? HardMirror:Enjoy the laugh at your own expense. The joke is on you Just remember that he who laughs last, laughs best. HardMirror:and you are slow on the uptake CAPSLOCKED:Everyone can see that you are headstrong and set in your way HardMirror:Why not repeat verbatim what Ranchhoddas asked and placed my response verbatim underneath it, and let the readers judge who is dishonest, jealous and blinded with prejudice Your problems and main challenge CAPSLOCKED and HardMirror is information overload You both dont understand what, the below remarks means: it's like the man standing tanda by a tree, and just waiting hopefully for a toothpick, wooden bed, chair and table to pop out, and that the ball is in your court, and stop holding the game up, standing there with the ball in your hands. Let me bring the bar down a bit for both you CAPSLOCKED and HardMirror . I've earlier asked Ranchhoddas but hey here is extending again to you What are your examples of and the differences between miracles, fantasies, wishes and prayers? |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by Ranchhoddas: 9:25am On Dec 15, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:I did not know that I needed training to spot contradictions. I find the dictionary definition of the word to be sufficient. How do you mean "You mean everything-is-a-miracle talk."I mean that you called everything including medical advances miracles even when you know that's not what we mean. Jesus did not give anybody pharmaceuticals. He only had to speak or lay hands. There were no rules. Meanwhile Ranchhoddas, what's your examples of and the differences between miracles, fantasies, wishes and prayers?Miracles: A 40year old man lame from birth suddenly stands up and walks upright after a simple prayer by a visiting evangelist. Fantasies: I agree with Merriam-Webster Wishes: Same as above Prayer: Entreating a higher power. Ranch, the bible is not in competition with other religious booksHow come it tastes very differently to different people? Try this for another size.What is the Bible's solution to world hunger? How would you prevent the next Fukushima or Chernobyl using the Bible? |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 9:33am On Dec 15, 2018 |
Ranchhoddas:brb asap to your half hearted and half completed reply |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by Ranchhoddas: 9:38am On Dec 15, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:What is halfhearted about this?
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Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 9:50am On Dec 15, 2018 |
Ranchhoddas:[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img] Chief, please I am on the road driving. Abeggy no make me swerve into the kerb nau. This your gif na kelele. LOL You know what "half hearted & half completed" I am talking about |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by brodalokie: 10:10am On Dec 15, 2018 |
Ranchhoddas: Moses encouraged the production of the food with fertiliser theoretically when he produced food or manna in the wilderness. It was so much that they had left overs. The local or pagan politics will tell you that they are not matured enough for consumption. I have lived in a country that provides such resources to their citizens yet they are living longer than us here. Allergorically a fukushima bomb could be a form of austerity and poverty were people would have no food and shelter. That is what war fetches people. Living with the fear of God and respect for human lives and property can not reproduce a Fukushima type situation. A Jesus type of miracle is still very possible in today's world. I have been struck by lightning once and then I have seen people who have the ability to read my thoughts and I thought if that is possible then the Jesus type of miracle is also possible. Lastly, the gifts and calling of God is without repentance. Pagans also have spiritual gifts as much as Christians. It is a gift |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by Ranchhoddas: 10:43am On Dec 15, 2018 |
brodalokie:Is this a satirical post or something? How do we apply it in say, Nigeria? Allergorically a fukushima bomb could be a form of austerity and poverty were people would have no food and shelter. That is what war fetches people. Living with the fear of God and respect for human lives and property can not reproduce a Fukushima type situation.I said Fukushima, not Hiroshima. A Jesus type of miracle is still very possible in today's world. I have been struck by lightning onceIf you stay on a pole in stormy weather, chances are you will be struck by lightening. I don't get the point here. and then I have seen people who have the ability to read my thoughts and I thought if that is possible then the Jesus type of miracle is also possible.I did not say it wasn't possible? Where did you see someone who could read your thoughts? |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by HardMirror(m): 12:23pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:so god is actually useless. Afterall we solve our own problems. Thanks for the clarification |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 2:05pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
HardMirror:You have a funny way with weak arguments and how you arrive at wrong conclusions with them. HardMirror:Where do you think the help to resolve the problems comes from? At least, you are slowly and inadvertently catching on, that the solution is already out there in the seed or tree, as it were and it's up to you to find out how to solve the problem(s) LOL. With the greatest respects, you don't cease to crack me up in bits with laughter. I am doing the Muttley laugh impression to no ends. |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by brodalokie: 2:11pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Ranchhoddas: Sorry bro the lightening struck me right on top my bed. The first one happened in another house very close to my leg while trying to get my generator on open ground started but this happened inside my room and it hit me twice on the chest with a speed of light. At first I thought it could be an infrared drone unto the roof of my house but then after seeing other wonders like my thoughts getting read at random and uninvited I concluded that it was a pure paranormal activity aka witchcraft. Let me tell you another secret, in Nigeria we have food resources but they are playing politics with it. When you go to the market you see people buying food stuffs, the trader still take some home and return the next day to sell them off. It is always available fresh or preserved. It is a war. Have you not heard of IDP camps? Where are they? Do you not see people going to to become refugees in overseas countries, why don't they go to our IDP camps? Also we have rich people who could adopt some of the children in the camps and train them well, but why do they like to give them out to trafficking or labor? Did you know that in advanced countries it is not by force to work and that they are entitled to weekly benefits? Why is it difficult to be like that in Nigeria? We are royally screwed in Nigeria. The ruling classes and their bearers are setting us up against each other for sport and trophies. It is tribunal of gladiators. We need to instill the fear of God into the upper class before they chew us all like meat burgers |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by knowyaself2(m): 2:42pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
TruthinAction: wake up brother. your Jesus has been fairly proved to have existed only in the pages of the Bible. no authentic secular history accounted for his life on earth. not because historians weren't interested in recording it, but simply because there was none to record. he didn't exist at any point in time. I'm afraid you have been lied to all along. I know it scares the shit outta you to embrace the truth, having built your whole life around this falsehood, but the earlier you accept reality the better for you. |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by TruthinAction: 3:30pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
knowyaself2: There is no history without Christ. The most popular calendar in use today is with reference to Jesus and you say the world has no record of Jesus. You are from the pit of hell. I feel sorry for you the day you will stand to be judged by Jesus. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by HardMirror(m): 3:48pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Eponymous:it is all a function of my mind. That is why i am not always right. |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by knowyaself2(m): 6:19pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
TruthinAction:go and study my brother, and stop making baseless claims. your soul can still be saved by the knowledge and power of the mind and soul. wake up |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by knowyaself2(m): 6:28pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
TruthinAction: you can start with this: https://www.nairaland.com/2588522/christs-existence-not-substantiated-historical the above link is a thought starter; an eye opener. keep an open mind while reading. no one has ever gone to hell fire by acquiring knowledge, trust me. |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 7:37pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Ranchhoddas:Chief, please dont make it a habit of doing a strawman like this. HardMirror said: "yes the bible is actually special. It was able to blend all sorts of contradictions successfully." At which, I responded that: "To untrained eyes they look like contradictions" No one talked about spotting contradictions, no one talked about needing training for spotting contradictions Ranchhoddas:Ranchhoddas, please get a grip of yourself. I have never blanket called, everything, including medical advances, sic, to be miracles. I havent even started yet, talking about miracles. There is more and quite a lot, to know about miracles I was hoping asking you about "miracles, fantasies, wishes and prayers" will make you think deeply about each and all of them Ranchhoddas:Give me reason(s) why should Jesus give anybody pharmaceutical? Yes, it is true Jesus only had to speak or lay hands but do you agree and accept that, it also is true, that there is a time and place for everything Do you also accept and agree that there is an exception to every rule? Ranchhoddas, we cant escape rules, rules are out there, we know about the rules but Jesus knows the exceptions. Ranchhoddas:There were rules. There always are rules Ranchhoddas. Understanding is an art. You see through understanding you get to learn about life and the secrets of life. Improve your understanding of small things Ranchhoddas, like rules, for example, When you look after the pennies, then the pounds will begin looking after themselves. It's always understanding the small pieces that makes one see the big picture Ranchhoddas:This is a bunch of myopic lazy answers and/or pathetic replies. What does " I agree with Merriam-Webster" or "Same as above" convey Why not rate these replies, if you dont think it is a sorry ass, half hearted and half completed reply Give it a score out of 10, where 1 is minimum and 10 is maximum Ranchhoddas:The bible tasting very differently to different people is not peculiar to the bible alone Ranchhoddas. It doesnt remove the fact and truth that the bible tastes, sweeter than honey in the mouth. Ranchhoddas:World hunger? World hunger is your top priority, your major concern is world hunger, right? Ranchhoddas:Dont shake this table asking me, such a question as this because you know what my reply will be |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by Ranchhoddas: 9:50pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:I'm confused but yep, let me pretend I understand what you are talking about. Ranchhoddas, please get a grip of yourself.So what did you say? Tell me in very clear and concise terms so I don't misquote you some other time. I havent even started yet, talking about miracles. There is more and quite a lot, to know about miraclesDo tell I was hoping asking you about "miracles, fantasies, wishes and prayers" will make you think deeply about each and all of themThink deeply how? Bros I no understand you again. Give me reason(s) why should Jesus give anybody pharmaceutical?The medical devices in your picture is the product of science like a pharmaceutical. If Christ will not use drugs, why did you put it up? Would Christ have needed such a device? Yes, it is true Jesus only had to speak or lay handsIf there is a time and place then it won't be a miracle. Do you also accept and agree that there is an exception to every rule?You have so far failed to say what these rules are. So for the umpteenth time I'll ask; what are these rules? There were rules.More vagueness? What are these rules you continually speak of? Oh God. It's always understanding the small pieces that makes one see the big pictureWhat pieces? Do you have a PhD in vagueness? This is a bunch of myopic lazy answers and/or pathetic replies.My thoughts on the matter Why not rate these replies, if you dont think it is a sorry ass, half hearted and half completed replyThey are not halfhearted. Perhaps you should rephrase your queries The bible tasting very differently to different people is not peculiar to the bible alone Ranchhoddas.This would not have been a problem but for the fact that people like to confer Divinity upon it It doesnt remove the fact and truth that the bibleq tastes, sweeter than honey in the mouth.This deserves a meme. When last did you eat honey? World hunger?It's not my priority but it's a problem? Do you like the fact people are starving. I'll end it if I could. Dont shake this table asking me, such a question as thisI assure you I don't know. |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 4:48am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Ranchhoddas:Buyer beware. That is what strawman mining does to people Ranchhoddas:To start with there are no contradictions so the matter of you saying "I did not know that I needed training to spot contradictions" is not germane Now about the "So what did you say?" question Do you at all remember how you constructed the question you asked and how I responded to it? Never mind, as I'll reproduce here again as a reminder "What are these rules. Have you ever witnessed the healing of amputees or any form of restorative/creative healing following these rules?" My reply is next below and was followed with one, out of as many other weblinks, that can substantiate it: "We are light years away from witnessing the healing of amputees however some semblances of restorative/creative healing following these rules are slowly but surely emerging" Now what is so hard to understand or so easy to twist in that reply? Ranchhoddas:Think deeply about the nuances Ranchhoddas:Did Christ command not to use drugs? Ranchhoddas:Knowing Christ's modus operandi, He probably wont need such a device, so what's your point here with this remark now? Ranchhoddas:There is a time and place when a miracle stops being seen as a miracle Ranchhoddas:You have so far failed to admit that our ecosystem exists without in accordance to all sorts of rules Ranchhoddas:For realisation of what one of the rules might be, try jumping off a high rise building without a parachute Ranchhoddas:Vagueness is an indication of nearness to a perfect truth Ranchhoddas:The rules are part of the laws of nature Ranchhoddas. Ranchhoddas, look around you, would you honestly say we are existing in this ecosystem without them? Is the sun hanging up there without in accordance to any specific rule? What do you think your sperm is swimmingly doing when you pour, if not that they are following certain rules? C'mon now there are laws of nature, set-up rules, order, processes and procedures in the scheme of things If not, why isnt the sky collapsing or caving in on us, for example? Ranchhoddas:Pieces like, looking after the pennies, then the pounds will begin looking after themselves. It's always understanding the small pieces, like, aspect about rules spelling out how things work etcetera, on earth, that makes one face palm see the big picture that everything is governed by rules and in accordance to them Ranchhoddas:Nothing valuable in life comes on a silver platter Ranchhoddas You know nau, that people need to dive, for precious gems, like pearls for example, dont you? You do agree that people need to dig, for precious ores, like copper, nickel, silver, gold for example, dont you? You do accept that people need to burrow and drill for fossil fuels, like coal, oil and natural gas for example, dont you? Ranchhoddas:Well, you limited it and incidentally the brain behaves as a muscle. Ranchhoddas:In your own words and including or covering everything, what is miracle, fantasy, wish and prayer? You saying: "Prayer: Entreating a higher power." does not include or cover everything because my friends arent necessarily a higher power when/if I tell any something or ask any to do something for me. Ranchhoddas:Divinity is, in and out the bible so people rightly confering Divinity upon the bible is not a problem. Ranchhoddas:No! One is enough. Had enough for the day, of that cross-eyed siamese cat meme. Ranchhoddas:Not lately, and that's because I havent been able to easily get my hands on authentic organic ones Ranchhoddas:It's a symptom of a bigger problem Ranchhoddas - Man Ranchhoddas:No I dont Ranchhoddas:You can alleviate it, if you would but you cant end starvation, even if you try. "Whenever cannibals are on the brink of starvation, Heaven, in its infinite mercy, sends them a fat missionary” is an Oscar Wilde morbid humour Ranchhoddas:Inasmuch we still exist in this imperfect world and with imperfect people about, the next Fukushima or Chernobyl will happen tomorrow The below simple "mantra" can prevent it "Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible, but not everything is edifying" |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by akeensbussy(m): 8:53am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Truly, Religion is a scam 1 Like |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by HardMirror(m): 10:20am On Dec 16, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:back to the OP, dispute what i wrote in the op. Is Jesus name not useless? |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 11:51am On Dec 16, 2018 |
HardMirror: I concur completely with all you wrote except with the part where you remarked that the name of Jesus is useless "Jesus So Powerful, So Useless" is a dichotomy Saying about Jesus, that it is "The Name Above All Names On Useless List" is characterised by bitterness and/or disgruntlement What were you expecting to happen shouting Jesus in unfolding road accidents? Let's turn this on its head How many people have not died in accidents when shouting Jesus? Millions for sure HardMirror:Its a truthful post with not much to disagree in it except when it got to the end HardMirror:No |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by HardMirror(m): 12:08pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:this is why i still respect your opinions. U try to be reasonable but you are still very dogmatic. Lets us also spin it around. How many people have survived accident not shouting Jesus!. Millions i am sure. So what makes the name of jesus powerful? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by LordReed(m): 12:11pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: I thought this was Wrestlemania I was seeing. LMFAO! 1 Like |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 12:48pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
HardMirror:On the contrary Put it this way, eye wey dey cry, dey see road HardMirror:I agree, many people, millions, have survived accident not shouting Jesus and I am sure you would accept that there always is a time and place for everything. Whatever would help in a time for self-preservation like that please do Even you would shout or under your breath, quietly say, please save me God HardMirror:"Ọmọde, o mo ogun, o npe lẹfọ" Loosely means, mistake jazz for salad, underestimate the real deal, at your own peril What makes the name of Jesus powerful is because it is the name above all names. Not even God's own name is not enough to save man. LordReed:You are seeing a disgustingly misuse and abuse of power Well give a dog a bad name and it will live up to it |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by Ranchhoddas: 12:54pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Oh MuttleyLaff!!! I give up.
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Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by TruthinAction: 1:00pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
knowyaself2: You will be shocked the day you see yourself there. And it will be too late. All you will do then is to curse God because the pain is really unbearable. |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 1:04pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Ranchhoddas:Ranchhoddas what comes easy won't last, and what lasts won't come easy, so I understand. I also must say, I love your calmness, decorum and honesty demonstrated so far on the discussions we've so far had on this thread Discussions are always better than trading arguments. Our paths, surely will cross again |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by TruthinAction: 1:06pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
knowyaself2: This one has been blinded by Satan. I pray for your deliverance before it is too late. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by HardMirror(m): 1:10pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:you are wrong about me. I have had 2 serious accidents as an atheist. I did not think about god or talkless of calling god. Dont assume you know people. I know it is had for u guys to believe but god is totally none existant for me now. It is as good as a dog or tree to me |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by MuttleyLaff: 1:44pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
HardMirror:I am right about you that your poo is soft, that is why you didnt think about God or talkless of calling God I know you assume you're a big man but dont you know that having a big mouth doesnt make you a big man. HardMirror:That's the irony, it actually is very easy for me to understand and believe that God is totally non-existent for you, and especially now A little pepper burns a big man's mouth Let's wait, until when you're caught in between a rock and hard place situation then you'll be prancing and singing like a canary, telling all you know about God |
Re: Jesus So Powerful, So Useless: The Name Above All Names On Useless List by knowyaself2(m): 2:26pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
TruthinAction:lol... you amuse me. you are hopelessly deluded. |
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