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Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by oilPUSSY(f): 11:50pm On Nov 15, 2018 |
I never knew Ibibios are more than Ijaws 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by RockHard: 11:54pm On Nov 15, 2018 |
oilPUSSY: Lol. Who gives a shyt about CIA?? When investors need data to guide their investment decisions, they won't consult the CIA. Rather, they will sift through up-to-date data like the one I provided up there (in the absence of a recent census) because it is more detailed and closest to the reality on the ground. 7 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:04am On Nov 16, 2018 |
scholes0:Na wa oo. What concerns this with ethnic population? I thought yorubas were educated 32 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:07am On Nov 16, 2018 |
scholes0:You are confused 19 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:10am On Nov 16, 2018 |
RockHard:What concern telecom company with ethnic population? 31 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:12am On Nov 16, 2018 |
scholes0:"Finally" ![]() 22 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by RockHard: 12:13am On Nov 16, 2018 |
MXrep: If you are too daft to get the gist, then there's no point even indulging your ignorance. ![]() 6 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:15am On Nov 16, 2018 |
RockHard:It is clear you have never left SW all your life 27 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:17am On Nov 16, 2018 |
RockHard:Your resort to insult proves you have no gist 28 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by RockHard: 12:18am On Nov 16, 2018 |
MXrep: Yorubas don't have to leave the SW to prove any point. Even without including Yoruba population in other parts of Nigeria, we still dust una hands down with our SW population alone. 7 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:19am On Nov 16, 2018 |
RockHard:Dude go and sleep and stop confusing yourself 32 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by RockHard: 12:21am On Nov 16, 2018 |
MXrep: I am sorry if I offended you, just that I don't have the time to be going back and forth. I know you are just looking for someone to argue with, but I have to go get some shut-eye (its way past my bedtime), so pardon me if I can't indulge you right now. 6 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:22am On Nov 16, 2018 |
RockHard:Ethnic population is not restricted to a geographical location 25 Likes 5 Shares
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Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:24am On Nov 16, 2018 |
RockHard:Ya that is what you need cos you have no points 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by RockHard: 12:31am On Nov 16, 2018 |
MXrep: That is why I said even if the SW 'dashes' igbos 5-million out of our total SW population (going by that data I presented), una go still fall far short. Oyo and Ogun combined telecoms data subscribers outnumber those of the entire SE states combined. That's just two states in the SW. The 4 remaining SW states (as well as Kwara and YOruba-speaking Kogi) have a combined telecoms subscriber base of atleast 28-million. If you still don't get it, then I cannot help you. I dey go to bed. 5 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by RTSC: 12:39am On Nov 16, 2018 |
There are igbos spread all over the country. From the north, south, west, and the middle belt. Significant igbo numbers everywhere. Those numbers are conservative. But given the fact that igbos are mostly Christian which should play a significant role in monogamy and birth rate compared to the other majority ethnics, we should be third largest. We don't procreate anyhow like the other two. 1 Like |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by bigfrancis21: 12:41am On Nov 16, 2018 |
scholes0: 1) it very well did happen in 1921.
As of 1921, the Igbo tribe was the single largest tribe in Northern and Southern Nigeria, even with the Hausa and Fulani combined. Yoruba came second and Hausa a distant third, despite the Igbo ethnic group losing about 1.4m people to the slave trade. Today's census results, if properly conducted, should mirror the above. There's a reason, 'state of origin' is conspicuously missing from census forms but rather 'state of residence' is used instead, to take advantage of non-indigenous populations found in states where non indigenes abound plenty and create a false population increase in those states, knowing full well that nearly half of the Igbo population is located outside of the SE zone. The reason given by Former President Obasanjo was, '...by doing so it would be controversial'. I guess he knew why but wouldn't admit to it directly. 2) I wouldn't term the above 'ignorant'. I would consider any 'census result' conducted by the Nigerian government with a grain of salt. I've always believed that the Igbo population is not the third largest as has been ascribed to them for decades since 1960. 32 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:41am On Nov 16, 2018 |
RockHard:You should really go and sleep oga. 8 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by MXrep: 12:44am On Nov 16, 2018 |
RTSC:And you forgot we have highest life expectancy too. 22 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by RTSC: 12:45am On Nov 16, 2018 |
MXrep:Benefit of a more civilised religion and way of life. 5 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by hucienda: 2:21am On Nov 16, 2018 |
Hausa the majority in the north. Igbo in the south. 24 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by Sibrah: 4:25am On Nov 16, 2018 |
alsudan:Do you know Hausa as a lang is being spoken in as far as Mali? Those people like to migrate down to Nigeria for better opportunity due to the arid nature of their lands and that explains a lot about Hausa's. 2 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by Yankee101: 4:51am On Nov 16, 2018 |
We need to do our own surveys |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by Academicwizman(m): 6:02am On Nov 16, 2018 |
bigfrancis21: The conclusion is very wrong. Both Hausa and Fulani Statistics are stated explicitly (@ the bold statement). @ at the italicized, the assumption is also faulty. Ethnic group is the basis of the estimate, not States or region. So, referring to Igbo leaving in those other States has no relevance to what the Statistics provided is saying. I see emotion mixed with logic in your analysis. It shouldn't be on a public forum. |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by Nobody: 6:06am On Nov 16, 2018 |
Eziokwu1:Anything Igbo-phobic must be correct, according to zoo logic ![]() Cc lzaa onyeoga pointzerom madridguy buhariguy sarrki shalomc iceberg3 yarimo greenback Alariiwo Roger3d cynthiakiss omenka tossie101 juliusmalema jumpandpas greenback eternaltruths shukuokukobambi 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by bigfrancis21: 6:37am On Nov 16, 2018 |
Academicwizman: 1) If you were patient enough to scroll further down, you would have seen where I ackowledged the difference. 2) There is nothing emotional about asking if the Igbo figure stated includes speakers in SS and the middle belt region, knowing that speakers in these areas are sometimes excluded from 'mainstream Igbos', although I see no difference. I see no point in this fact you just mentioned. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by bigfrancis21: 6:43am On Nov 16, 2018 |
Another question we should be asking is this: Is the 27.4% Hausa percentage referring to the core or 'ethnic Hausas' only or does it also include all minority tribes in the North who are not ethnic Hausa but speak Hausa as first language today? If so, if these minority tribes are excluded from this figure, what would be a most likely percentage for the Hausa? 15% maybe? 18% maybe? 8 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by pazienza(m): 6:57am On Nov 16, 2018 |
RTSC: Monogamy ensures you have more of our children surviving childhood. As available resources are channelled towards nourishing and taking care of their health. On the other hand, Polygamy in the North produce too many children, many of who don't survive infancy and childhood. 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by bigfrancis21: 7:00am On Nov 16, 2018 |
scholes0: RockHard: Nice points but true ethnic population figures cannot be extrapolated from active number of subscribers for several reasons: 1) These figures are not ethnic figures but simply figures for phone subscribers and should never be relied on. No advanced country in the world depends on telecommunications figures for estimating true ethnic or tribal figures. 2) The first 7 states listed in descending order are big cities containing the native population plus other Nigerian tribes, foreigners, other Africans etc. living in them. Take Lagos for example, it is a very multi-ethnic state with the presence of virtually all Nigerian tribes plus foreigners. Assuming that the 12m figure for Lagos is entirely of Yoruba ethnic origin is quite hilarious. Assuming 40% of the subscribers are of Yoruba origin (which I think may be far-to-fetch), then about 4.8m might be the right Yoruba figure. The remaining 60% is shared between other Nigerian tribes, the Chinese, Indians, Lebanese, Europeans, Americans, other Africans living in Lagos etc. Ogun state, by virtue of it being a border state to Lagos, is home to thousands, if not millions, of people who commute or drive to work in Lagos or actively engage in business in Lagos but live in Ogun state due to housing or accommodation problems. Ogun state experiences a spill-over of otherwise Lagos residents and thus experiences the 'Lagos effect' described above. The state comes in second. Oyo comes in third. 3) A good percentage of phone users have multiple sim cards/line being used. 4) A good percentage of the sim cards/lines is for business purposes used by companies, offices, banks etc. Lagos, Nigeria's commercial center, probably has the highest concentration of companies and industries in Nigeria and every single one of them has at least one active sim card/line or more. 5) Summing up the figures from all the regions listed + the FCT gives about approximately 93 million active subscribers (48%) but the total Nigerian population is estimated at 195 million. A whopping 102 million Nigerians are conspicuously missing from the data (52%). Thus, the data provided above is baseless as a way of estimating true ethnic populations. 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by pazienza(m): 7:01am On Nov 16, 2018 |
bigfrancis21: I also wonder if they grouped Efik,Annang ,Oron, Obolo, Eket under Ibibio, to arrive at the figure of 2.2% for Ibibio, which makes Ibibio the biggest ethnic group in SS, and not Ijaw. 12 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by pazienza(m): 7:09am On Nov 16, 2018 |
bigfrancis21: Also there is the issue of multiplicity of active lines by single individuals. In Yorubaland, it's a must to have a Glo network line in addition to MTN and other lines, Yorubas like to patronize Glo alot. Where as in the East, it's MTN all the way, even though many have multiple lines here, it isn't as definite as the SW where having a Glo network is like a must. Simply put, the number of active subscribers is a very poor data to use to extract ethnic population figures. 15 Likes |
Re: CIA Revision Of Nigeria's Ethnic And Religious Statistics. Shock Alert!! ... by bigfrancis21: 7:15am On Nov 16, 2018 |
pazienza: Great point. Also, not forgetting a fact that a good percentage of these lines are used for business or/and non-personal purposes and are not directly related to one tribe or another. 9 Likes 1 Share |
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