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Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by tpiah: 3:43pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
Awo, who almost 100% of Yoruba idolize yoruba culture isnt a fascist one, so kindly correct your statement. it's allowed for yorubas to have opposing views, even if political crisis is the end result. so enough with the misleading claims.
much better. |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by tkb417(m): 4:41pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
dayokanu:and that makes it Atiku's party? OGD left AC and became gubernatorial candidate in Ogun immediately with PDP? Omisore left AC and became a Gubernatorial/senatorial candidate in PDP what about Obasanjo who was never a PDP member but was taken away from prison and was installed as the candidate for PDP A party fields the strongest opponent irrespective of where h/she comes from if AC fielded Atiku, it was because they saw him as a formidable candidate that can challenge the ruling party and not because he owns the party and for ur first statement, i didnt know yorubas are forbidden to be in the same party with Hausas i |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by Jarus(m): 4:42pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
@tpiah, Prove me wrong? How many Yoruba people can openly criticize Awo? And not labelled omo ale Yoruba? For not following Awo ideology, Akinjide, Akinloye and co are still seen as outcasts till today. Accomodation of dissenting views indeed! |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by tpiah: 4:44pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
do you know the meaning of fascist? reread your statement and correct yourself! How many Yoruba people can openly criticize Awo? i see you've been brainwashed like a certain woman here. |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by nulldev: 4:54pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
@Dayokanu As some other posters have said already. the wetie incident was a revolt against an undeniably unpopular government and I may be wrong but I do not recall any official support of the violence and rioting from Awo. Saying Akintola took some sort of intellectual high road is also wrong, the man and he's cohorts bent the rules and did all he could to hold on to power at all costs. To continue from Katsumoto's recollection of events at the time 1. SLA did not enjoy majority support in the western house of assembly which anyone will agree is a prerequisite in the Westminster style government we had at the time. Now the 'intellectual' thing to do was to resign and/or dissolve parliament and test he's popularity. He did neither. He took the all too familiar route of hanging on to power by any means necessary and preventing a new premier from taking office. 2. TOS Benson has boasted countless times about how he instigated the disturbance in the western house of assembly by signalling for the parliamentary mace to be broken (draws direct parallels to the vulgar brand of contemporary democracy in Nigeria but I digress) in an attempt to prevent SLA's removal and force an unpopular government on the people of the region. 3. You say he resorted to the Law courts but you did not go through the specifics. The Supreme court in a deliberately loose interpretation of the regional constitution decided the Governor did not have the power to remove the premier without a direct mandate from parliament (thanks to the mace breaking incident this was not possible). The privy council overruled this judgement on the basis that the constitution did not explicitly state that parliamentary approval was needed and the Governor can sack a premier that did not enjoy the support of the majority at the regional assembly. So what did SLA (now premier via a combination of the faulty supreme court judgement and the state of emergency federal aide) do? retroactively changed the regional constitution to invalidate the privy council ruling which at that point in time was the highest court you could appeal to. 3 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by dayokanu(m): 5:18pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
@Dayokanu Members of A.G went on rampage right? Did the leader come out to caution or condemn them? If you see your son stealing you didnt say anything to condemn it. Saying Akintola took some sort of intellectual high road is also wrong, the man and he's cohorts bent the rules and did all he could to hold on to power at all costs. To continue from Katsumoto's recollection of events at the time Where does the court come into it when you have a grievance? According to the rules any grievance should be taken to the court. You might say a son has to obey his father but he also has the constitutional right to sue his father to court. He hung on to power using legitimate means. He went to court and the court gave him the right to remain Premier. When George Bush won via the SUpreme court, Why didnt you tell him to go back to the polls and rerun the election? 2. TOS Benson has boasted countless times about how he instigated the disturbance in the western house of assembly by signalling for the parliamentary mace to be broken (draws direct parallels to the vulgar brand of contemporary democracy in Nigeria but I digress) in an attempt to prevent SLA's removal and force an unpopular government on the people of the region. This is the first time I am hearing about this, What we all know was that A.G led by Awo and their supporters went on wetie wrecking havoc all over. 3. You say he resorted to the Law courts but you did not go through the specifics. The Supreme court in a deliberately loose interpretation of the regional constitution decided the Governor did not have the power to remove the premier without a direct mandate from parliament (thanks to the mace breaking incident this was not possible). The privy council overruled this judgement on the basis that the constitution did not explicitly state that parliamentary approval was needed and the Governor can sack a premier that did not enjoy the support of the majority at the regional assembly. So what did SLA (now premier via a combination of the faulty supreme court judgement and the state of emergency federal aide) do? retroactively changed the regional constitution to invalidate the privy council ruling which at that point in time was the highest court you could appeal to. All of these are legal arguments and an intellectual way to go about your case. Lawyers, courts and judges all argue cases to favour them and within the provision of the constitution. If SLA was deemed to have gone against the constitution, The opponents have an option of going to court dont they? but they chose to go through wetie. Which was one of the reasons why the Military took over and brought us to our current situation in this country |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by Katsumoto: 5:23pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
dayokanu: Of cos you ignored it when I posted it that Akintola's supporters caused mayhem in the House. 1 Like |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by nulldev: 5:53pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
Dude, the opponents DID go to court and they DID win in court. SLA changed the rules mid-game to keep himself in power rather than respect the court ruling. The bit about George Bush with all due respect makes no sense. Bush won (I think Al Gore conceded before the case was concluded) at the apex court, SLA lost at the apex court, turned around and changed the laws to invalidate the ruling that did not favour him. TOS Benson's own recollection of events complete with he's bizaro logic : http://www.dawodu.com/benson2.htm "On the D-day in the Western House of Assembly, AG and NNDP/NCNC alliance members each sat on opposite sides and galleries and each on the side of the seat where honourable members of their camp were to be based as they trooped into the Assembly Chambers. But the NNDP/NCNC alliance was ready with the machinery it set up to stop and rubbish the AG. Riot police with guns and teargas canisters strapped to their waists were combat ready for any eventuality." "As honourable members entered the Chambers, the Chief Whip of the NNDP/NCNC alliance counted them. The two candidates for the office were Chief Akintola for the NNDP/NCNCN alliance and Chief A.S. Adegbenro for the Action Group. After the Speaker had entered the Chambers, it became clear that majority of members were on the side of the AG." "He got up from the back row where he sat and jumping from one table to the other shouting repeatedly "Fire on the Mountain, Run, Run, Run". He kept up the chant and the jumping exercise. Thus there was great confusion in the House as members packed their bags and baggage out of the Assembly chambers. The honourable member representing Ajeromi-Ajegunle Constituency, Mr. Ebube Dike, an Igbo settler from Okigwe, raced to the Speaker's table and made for the mace to hit it on the Speaker's head. The Speaker, Prince Adeleke Adedoyin dodged it and the mace hit on the table and broke into pieces." Now Awo's counter motion during the state of emergency debates and notice which politicians used violence as a means to an end: http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/FedGovt/Federalism/emergency_rule/western_region_awolowo.html 2 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by tkb417(m): 6:06pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
Jarus:get some perspective Give me an example of what you should criticise Awo on? leadership qualities, ruthless ambition/inordinate political desires, philantrophy, bias for economic emancipation of an average yorubaman or his political tussle with Akintola (who in a bid to satisfy his personal ambition teamed with the 'perceived' enemies) lemme ask this, what would Awo do if he was in Akintolas shoes? run to the North to oust his fellow yorubaman? i think not akintola is a sage like awo but i can say he orchestrated his own demise with his long throat politics. lemme be clear to remove all ambiguities Awo is not celebrated because hes the best behaved yorubaman that lived but for his political ideology and what he did for an average yorubaman Akintola on the other hand was demonized cos of his anti party, anti yoruba moves to satisfy personal ambitions 3 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by OAM4J: 6:13pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
tkb417: Gbam! 2 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by Katsumoto: 6:19pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
tkb417: GBAM GBAM GBAM 2 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by Nobody: 6:29pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
tkb417: yeah, this is like the entire thread in a nutshell. 2 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by seanet02: 6:31pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
@dayokanu, AWOLOWO AND A.G took to violence because akintola and his northern crooks have already manipulated the judiciary or what makes a judge say his hands are tied. akintola was trying to feel too arrogant and was trying to stop programs like that are meant for the upliftment of the masses, or what will make a leader says that the state should stop funding free education of the masses while he sent his own son to the best school around. Pure wickedness and selfishness. Akintola will never be honoured by the YORUBA people, he wanted to sell our heritage to the north but he failed and the coup was inevitable. 4 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by Katsumoto: 6:41pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
NullDev, thanks for the link AN AMENDMENT OPPOSING PRIME MINISTER ABUBAKAR TAFEWA BALEWA'S MOTION SEEKING TO IMPOSE A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN NIGERIA'S WESTERN REGION May 29, 1962 By Chief Obafemi Awolowo In reply to Balewa's motion for a state of emergency, Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the leader of opposition in Nigeria's Federal Parliament, and leader of the Action Group [party], tabled his opposition amendment. The following are excerpts from his speech: "I beg to move the following amendment to the motion already proposed by the Prime Minister: "To delete all the words of the motion after - That - and substitute - "This honourable House declares that having regard to the provisions of Section 65 of the Constitution of the Federation of Nigeria a state of public emergency does not exist." "May I draw the attention of hon. members to the provisions of Section 65 of our Constitution. It is not usual for members to read the constitution unless occasion such as this arises or some other incidents, which affect us occur. Section 65 reads: "65(1) Parliament may at any time make sure laws for Nigeria or any part thereof with respect to matters not included in the legislative lists as may appear to parliament to be necessary or expedient for the purpose of maintaining or securing peace, order and good government during any period of emergency." "The section 3 - (3) In this section "period of emergency" means any period during which (a) the federation is at war; (b) there is in force a resolution by each House of Parliament declaring that a state of public emergency exists; and (c) there is in force a resolution of each House of Parliament supported by the votes of not less than two-thirds of all the members of the House declaring that democratic institutions in Nigeria are threatened by subversion. "That is the section, Mr. Speaker, and I hold the view very strongly - and that view is in no way shaken by the speech made by the Prime Minister that the step which the Federal Government now proposes is uncalled for and unwarranted. "The first question which any reasonable person ought to ask himself is this. Is there a state of public emergency in the Western Region * That is the most important question, which the Prime Minister and the cabinet must ask themselves. I submit with great respect that a state of public emergency does not exist in Western Nigeria. "Not long ago after independence, there was rioting of a most severe nature in the Tiv Division of Northern Nigeria. Several lives were lost, several properties were destroyed, there was arson and a host of other crimes were committed. At that time, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa was the Prime Minister as he is today. He did not think it fit to call this parliament to declare a state of public emergency in the Northern Region. Also in Okrika - there was widespread rioting in Okrika; again, several lives and properties were lost. I understand that this widespread rioting in Okrika occurred twice in the Eastern Region. The Prime Minister and the cabinet did not think it fit on that occasion to declare a state of public emergency in the Eastern Region. "But, because the Action Group is pursuing the normal democratic processes as laid down in our constitution to oust someone who happens to be a very close friend of the Prime Minister, and also because the AG is looked upon as a moral foe to the NPC, this very far-reaching provision of our constitution is now being invoked, only in respect of what might be described as squabbles inside the chamber of the Western House of Assembly. It is doing violence to our constitution and doing violence to the construction of words to suggest that what happened in the Western House of Assembly amounts to a state of public emergency. "I was present there myself, and when I left that chamber, those who were outside the chamber did not even know that anything was happening inside the chamber. Ibadan is peaceful - the whole of the Western Region is peaceful. It is true that the newspapers have been exaggerating the situation in the Western Region, the Prime Minister himself has lent his support to this exaggeration; he cancelled all his engagements - whether they existed or not I do not know, the governor-general was suddenly summoned back from his holiday in Nsukka to come to Lagos even when there was no deterioration in the situation in the Western Nigeria. "I maintain that this is a calculated, premeditated attempt on the part of the Prime Minister and his cabinet to try, if they could, to castrate the AG, to disturb the welfare of the people of Western Nigeria who have always been looked upon as the foes of the NPC. "May I say that I can understand the yearnings and the wishes of the NCNC and the stand of the NCNC in this matter. Every political party wants to be in power - we want to be in power here in the centre one day, and by the grace of God we will. But the NCNC wants, naturally, to fish in troubled waters. If I were in their shoes, I would think that no occasion is more favourable than now to have a dissolution of the legislature of the Western Region, because this dissolution now would mean a split in the votes of the Action Group. It might be that by such a split, they could sort of fluke in and form the government of Western Nigeria. In any case, whatever happened after that dissolution, the NCNC would not be any worse off than they were before, namely to be in the opposition - that is the worst that could happened to them. But there is a chance - the off-chance - that they may just manage to win. "Therefore I can understand the action of the NCNC in this matter, because that is the party in opposition in the Western Region. The NPC has no foothold in the west, and it is doing its very best to find a foothold in the Western Region. "There are a number of persons who call themselves NPC members for Ibadan, but they are by themselves, they have some following of a type among people who live in Mokola, Ibadan, that is to be understood; but the NPC as such has no following in the Western Region, and it is the NPC dominated Federal Government that now wants to impose its rule on the people of Western Nigeria, simply because there was what the prime minister called the uproar in the chamber of the Western House of Assembly - not an uproar in Ibadan as a whole; not an uproar even in Ogbomosho the home of Chief Akintola who is involved in this matter, not an uproar in Ijebu-Remo; not an uproar in Ikorodu; not an uproar anywhere in the Western Region. The prime minister thinks that this very far-reaching provision of the constitution should be invoked merely to save a friend! "Secondly, what is a public emergency * What is a state of public emergency * What is a state of public emergency * May I say that my view quite candidly is that a state of public emergency arises only when there is widespread violence in any part of the federation. In this particular case there is no widespread violence or rioting or disturbance in the Western Region. And yet, the bon. Minister for war - for defence - sent soldiers to Ibadan, as a matter of routine I think, because the soldiers there have been moved to the Congo; and then he went on the air to say. "Oh yes, we have sent them there because of the tension in Ibadan." Where is the tension in Ibadan * I may walk about the streets of Ibadan, and if the minister of defence challenges that, I invite him to come along to Ibadan and go about the streets of Ibadan. But they want to create this artificial tension in the Western Region in order to invoke this far-reaching provision of the constitution. Gross misuse of power "Thirdly, I say - I said it outside this house and I want to repeat it on the floor of this honourable house - that the action now being taken by the Federal Government is a gross misuse of power; I do not say abuse because as far as I can see there is no abuse yet - I hope the Federal Government does not abuse its power in the process of implementing this resolution, but so far it is a gross misuse of power, the circumstances which should warrant the use of this power have not yet arisen. "What is more * The prime minister was very, very careful in stating the events which led to his having to decide to take this action which he is now taking. I never knew him to be a journalist, I know him to be an educationist, a politician and a statesman, but like some journalists he has put a little bit of twist and slant in relating the events, so as to show that it is the Action Group, vis-ˆ-vis Chief Akintola that is at fault in this matter. Why did the prime minister not tell this house the story which the police have no doubt told him concerning the events in the house of assembly on that day * He knows the story but he had chosen not to tell it, and since he has failed to tell it, I will tell that story and challenge the prime minister to deny it. "The truth is that in the house of assembly that day, hon. Members were assembled as we are here now assembled; prayers were said and then immediately after that, o[b]ne Mr. Oke, a supporter of Chief Akintola, a member from Ogbomosho, jumped on the desk and was running about on the desk and then lifted a chair and struck somebody on the head. That is how it started, and then thereafter one Mr. Ebubedike, the member for Badagry, who lives in Ajeromi, took the Mace and then in an attempt to strike the speaker with the Mace, the Mace struck the table and broke into two. These events were witnessed by the police and then chairs were lifted and were thrown all over the place by supporters of Chief Akintola.[/b] "The police will testify to the fact that all the members of the Action Group supporting Alhaji Adegbenro remained calm under the gravest possible provocations. They too could hit back - there were 66 of them against 40 odd of the other side and they could have hit back but they did not hit back. I should have thought that the Rt. Hon. Prime Minister would have given that story. I spoke to him over the telephone myself and he was candid enough to admit that he received the report of the police that the supporters of Alhaji Adegbenro remained calm throughout. "One of the ministers was injured, very badly. He was stabbed with a knife inside the chamber. That is what happened and the prime minister should have said this. "Then the meeting reassembled. It is true that I told the prime minister that it would be only right and proper that the meeting should reassemble, otherwise we would have done damage, serious and irreparable damage, serious and irreparable damage, to the most important instrument of parliamentary democracy. If democracy is to survive in this country, parliamentary must be allowed to meet. It is also true that I did ask the prime minister to see to it that police protection was afforded to hon. Members inside the chamber. It is true, as he has pointed out, that he did say that in the case of police being inside the chamber the decisions taken thereat would not be accepted by him. "But how does parliament function if a group of people, a minority, choose to make trouble in an assembly of this character * When we came this morning everyone of us was searched. The prime minister has learned a lesson from the Western Region and I notice that he has removed all movable chairs and articles from this house. Why did he not make that suggestion to the speaker in the Western House of Assembly * I did make that suggestion to him, that if we met on Saturday we would see to it that all the chairs and movable articles that could injure people were removed from the chamber. The prime minister has now followed that suggestion of mine and has seen to it that chairs and other movable things are removed from this place. "But may I say with respect that we do not come here to disturb the peace in this House; we do not come here to do that. We come here to urge our points of view, have our say and leave the government to have its way. That is the essence of democracy. What prime minister should have done on this occasion, if he is the democrat and liberal which I think he has always been, should have been to see to it that the culprits, being known and being identified, were dealt with properly under law. There were people who should have been thrown out of the chamber. It was not proper that tear gas should have been thrown into the whole chamber which prevented all the members from meeting. "Suppose I chose to start trouble here * It is true that the police are around; they may shoot, they may fire, and all sorts of things, but we would create trouble all the same and the police might come in and throw tear gas and disperse all of us. We might then come again and start the same trouble; the same police action might take place and we might come again and start the same trouble all over. What would happen to parliamentary democracy * It would be finished. Dangerous precedent "That leads me to my fourth point, that a dangerous precedent is being set in this country. I warn the prime minister, who has been a faithful custodian of our constitution, to see that the precedence is not allowed to be created. There is still time, I know it is not easy for a government, having come into the open in the way the prime minister has done, to retreat. I have been in government myself for eight years and I know what it means to be defeated in the open. But I do warn, very seriously, that the path of duty on the part of the prime minister lies in his seeing to it that parliament functions, and functions properly in the Western Region. It will be an act of bad faith to our constitution to set up an organisation which would by-pass the constitution of the Western Region, under any circumstances whatsoever, and particularly under these circumstances. Motion discriminatory "The fifth point I wish to make is that this measure, this motion, is discriminatory. I have already given instances to support that contention, and I do not want to go over those incidents again. I have made reference to the riots in Tiv Division and the riots in Okrika and so on and so forth. I do not want to repeat them. But if this can be done to the Western Region, whey was it not done to the Northern Region or to the Eastern Region * I want the prime minister not only to project the image of being a statesman in his dealings with the East and the North, I also want him to project the image of an impartial arbiter and statesman in his dealings with the region which is not of his own origin, that is the Western Region, and a region in which a party opposed to his party is in power, a region in which a party the Action Group has its base and from where it operates. "In the North, to the annoyance no doubt of my good friend the premier of Northern Nigeria, I think it is correct to say that it was the Action Group who, during the 1959 elections, campaigned for the first time in the history of Northern Nigeria. The hon. The Sardauna of Sokoto, the premier of the Northern Region, had to go into villages and towns and mount the soap boxes to address the masses. It had never happened in the history of the Northern Region that the Sardauna would descend to the depths of mounting a soap box and talking to the masses of the people - they take orders through other agencies and not directly from the Sardauna himself. "I remember that a story was told to me on that occasion, that the Sardauna drove through several miles of dusty road and, at the end of it, he found himself covered with dust, and sneezing he said: "I will never forgive Awolowo for this!" If he does not want to forgive me we can talk that over between ourselves because we are friends, but this is not the way to deal with that particular situation: this is not the way to deal with that particular annoyance. This is wrong. "I want to refer to some of the points made by the prime minister. The prime minister said that there is no constituted authority in Western Nigeria at the moment. I say with respect that the prime minister is wrong in making that declaration. The governor, rightly or wrongly, has acted in removing Chief Akintola from office and, rightly or wrongly, in appointing a successor. Under our constitution it is the court that has to determine whether the removal of Chief Akintola is right or wrong and whether the appointing of a successor is in order. As a matter of fact the moment the removal of Chief Akintola is declared void, then he resumes his office, but if the court declares to the contrary then, of course, the successor carries on. The case has been fixed for the 5th. Why not wait till the 5th. "It is the duty of the prime minister, in my view, to support the new appointee, the successor of Chief Akintola, until the case is disposed of. That is his duty, a clear duty. But what is the pretext of the prime minister in taking this measure ''Well,' he said, 'this case is coming up on the 5th but because of this uproar inside the chamber something must be done even before the 5th.' "May I say in this connection that I cannot help expressing the feeling that the prime minister feels greatly concerned about the action of the governor of the Western Region of Nigeria, I would not say for a personal reason - but for a reason which is not unconnected with his own position in the federation. May 1 say that until Chief Akintola refused to resign I myself had not discovered the provisions under Section 33 of our constitution in the Western Region, and I am aware until that provision was invoked that the governor-general or the governor could remove the prime minister or a premier if it appeared to him that the prime minister or the premier no longer enjoyed the support of the House of Representatives or of the House of Assembly, as the case may be. "But that is our law. If the prime minister feels that the governor-general may one day wake up and remove him from office, then he could do something about it. As far as I know the two parties in coalition with him have never at any time suggested that he should resign his office. On the contrary, from the demonstration which we have noticed in this honourable House, they are all loyal to him and he has no cause to be afraid either of his own party, the NPC, or the NCNC which is in coalition with the NPC. "But here is a man (Chief Akintola) who himself pleaded guilty to the charges of maladministration, anti-party activities and indiscipline and was found so guilty by his own compeers. The only question on which members divided was whether he should be sentenced to life imprisonment or to a fine or whether he should be cautioned and discharged. That was all. As to the verdict, it was unanimous; but whether he should be called upon to resign or whether he should be cautioned and given some less punishment, was the issue, it was the votes of eight-one people against the votes of twenty-nine members. "As I said, the Prime Minister has nothing to fear from the governor-general. I think they are on the best of terms and the parties in coalition are very friendly to him." 2 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by tkb417(m): 6:49pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
"But here is a man (Chief Akintola) who himself pleaded guilty to the charges of maladministration, anti-party activities and indiscipline and was found so guilty by his own compeers. The only question on which members divided was whether he should be sentenced to life imprisonment or to a fine or whether he should be cautioned and discharged. That was all. As to the verdict, it was unanimous; but whether he should be called upon to resign or whether he should be cautioned and given some less punishment, was the issue, it was the votes of eight-one people against the votes of twenty-nine members.Jarus and Dayokanu should not rewrite history this quote above corroborated my earlier post Thanks Katsumoto and nulldev 2 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by hercules07: 6:54pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
@Katsumoto And people wonder why we gbadun this man. Keep up the good work jare. 2 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by dayokanu(m): 7:07pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
tkb417: The said quote from above was from whom? |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by Katsumoto: 7:17pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
hercules07: You mean Awo? You make it seem like he is still around. Olorun afi orun ke won.Amin |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by dayokanu(m): 7:18pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
tkb417: Examples of what we can criticize Awolowo on, Awo due to his personal ambition to rule threw away the counsel of party leaders not to engage Balewa who was Bellos boy-boy but went to lagos. After losing Lagos came back to forment trouble for his loyal deputy who never had any problem with him for several years. After losing all constitutional battles he and his followers resorted to violence and arson. He served under an illegal govt which betrays his ideals as a democrat lemme ask this, what would Awo do if he was in Akintolas shoes? run to the North to oust his fellow yorubaman? At what point in time do you mean? Would Awo have left his position for Akintola if Akintola was the one who lost in the Federal parliament? One thing I know is Awo would have resorted to violent and Arson to get whatever he wants At all cost even if it means teaming with an illegitimate govt while Akintola would have sought redress legally and constitutionally. akintola is a sage like awo but i can say he orchestrated his own demise with his long throat politics. I think Awo is the one guilty of Long throat here. Eating your cake and having it. Leaving your position as premier to contest Federal, Losing it and expecting to come back to be Premier lemme be clear to remove all ambiguities Akintola did a lot for Yorubas which Awolowo's group attempted to sweep under. Akintola ensured A Yoruba man was made VC in UNILAG, he made sure we got our share in the Nation, The NNDP man threw out a list of schorlarsip nominees that was 95% Igbo and told them to remake the list. I believe many of our intellectuals benefitted from these schorlarships Akintola ensured that we were adequately represented in govt positions when the NCNC and their people were trying to take over Yorubaland Akintola ensured that Yorubas were not kicked around like footballs |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by safariman(m): 7:32pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
I'll like to add that both parties at time were involved in operation wetie, |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by seanet02: 8:16pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
@dayokanu, between AWOLOWOS scholarship and your NNDP one, which benefited the west most? AWOLOWO of course. akintola is a traitor and deserve no place in YORUBA HISTORY!!!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by dayokanu(m): 8:20pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
seanet02: akintola is a traitor and deserve no place in YORUBA HISTORY!!!!! Based on what? Can you back up your claims? And where did anyone ever say NNDP awarded schorlarships? |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by seanet02: 8:28pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
@dayokanu, so you dont know they were trying to award phantom free education to withstand AWOLOWOS version, terribly the fail and people in the west including you enjoyed AWOLOWOS free education than the federal jargons. |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by dayokanu(m): 8:36pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
ok |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by akinalabi(m): 9:02pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
I love this thread die. . . ![]() |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by dayokanu(m): 9:39pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
akinalabi: Dont just love rather contribute before I declare wetie on your head now now |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by seanet02: 9:49pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
@dayokanu, why did akintola not being honoured why AWOLOWO is being hailed by majority of YORUBA people (except you and your people from ogbomosho) you cant be wiser than most of YORUBAS!!!!!!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by dayokanu(m): 9:51pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
ok |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by seanet02: 9:56pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
@dayokanu, why ok in everything? Have i offended you in any way? If so accept my apologies |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by OAM4J: 1:20am On Aug 04, 2010 |
The facts on this thread are not contestable by both parties. The interpretation and judgement of these facts is left for each individual. I now understand why many call SLA a traitor. For me he is a gladiator quite well, only that he took his ambition too far and if i may say, his actions were more selfish and not much in line with the aspirations of the majority of Yorubas. Sorry dayo, I do not buy those achievement you listed as being substantial, rather I see them as SLA and his cohorts personal gains.
But Dayo, the fact available does not suggest this. Awo did not come back to be premier. When Akintola was removed, it was Adegbenro that was elected not Awo. The only fault of Awo was that he was overbearing, and SLA want some independence. but then Awo was still the Party leader. Just too bad it was personal egos that led to all these problems and unfortunately it was the Yoruba people that suffered the most. IMO |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by Puvguy: 6:57am On Aug 04, 2010 |
Dayokanu is spot on about Awo and Akintola. My dad who was a keen political observer and also neutral told me Awo was power hungry. Though he acknowledges his good intentions for his people but said he could had easily turned a dictator if were a military leader. My intention is not to anger anyone here so don't take it personal. |
Re: Samuel Ladoke Akintola by hercules07: 8:44am On Aug 04, 2010 |
@Topic Though I hold a different view from that of DayoKanu, I must commend him on the way he has conducted himself here. Now that that is out of the way, has anybody asked why Balewa declared a state of emergency for an altercation in the chambers? It is obvious that Akintola was the hammer that was to be used to nail Awolowo, he was meant to be a tool in the hands of the Balewa government to remove Awo, the only thing they did not foresee was the reaction of the Yorubas to their scheming. Even Lamido Sanusi talks about the schemings of the NPC led government in one of his articles. |
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