Since the story of Fashola and Osibanjo asking South west to vote APC so that presidency will come to South west (South in general) in 2023, the way Igbos have reacted have been very pathetic and pitiful.

What many of them are saying is that PDP will field a Northerner if APC field a South west candidate in 2023.
What Igbos are saying by that is that they have accepted defeat ahead against a Yoruba candidate. They believe if APC field a Yoruba candidate and PDP field an Igbo candidate, that the Yoruba will beat the igbo with landslide victory. What a pitiful situation? That is what happen when u isolate yourself and burn down bridges over lack of emotional intelligence!

It means Igbos don't believe any Igbo man dead or alive can defeat any Yoruba man in 2023. And they also don't believe any Igbo man dead or alive can defeat a Northerner in Nigeria Presidential race.

Thus what Igbos are hoping for is a Situation where the two major parties (APC and PDP) field candidate from South East so that they won't have to compete or work for it. That is delusion. Even Buhari and Atiku are not from the same geopolitical zone. Buhari is north west while Atiku is North east.

What Igbos fail to understand is that South South might have join South East on Anti Buhari stand, South South will not join them on Anti Yoruba Stand. If a Yoruba contest against a Northerner in 2023, South South will give most vote to the Yoruba. South South is not part of the cold war between Yorubas and Igbos. We are not stupid. We SS don't have any personal issue with the Yorubas. Just for reference purpose, in 1993 Election, Abiola won Delta, Edo, Akwa Ibom and cross river but lost only rivers state. There was no Bayelsa and Ebonyi state then. On that same election, Abiola lost most of the state in South East. At that time South East had 4 states, Imo, Abia, Anambra and Enugu. Abiola lost in Imo,Abia and Enugu. That means he lost South East and won South South. South South voted Abiola despite the fact that the VP for Tofa(Abiola opponent) was Igbo(Sylvester Ugoh who was the Governor of defunt Central Bank of Biafra)

Another thing Igbos may fail to understand is that Northerners are calculative and politically mature. Even if PDP field kwankwanso, he will not get a unified Northern support against a Yoruba candidate from APC as long as Buhari endorse the Yoruba with clear message of one good turn deserves another. Alot of Northerners will allign with the Yoruba candidate. Should the Yoruba candidate win despite South East opposition, just know the next time presidency comes to South it will come to South South. For reference purpose, Tofa lost Kano to Abiola despite being a Fulani and an Indigene of Kano State. That shows the North despite their love for power, understand the significance of rotating power between North and South.

As far as I am concerned if Buhari wins 2019, 2023 presidency will be contested by the whole South. That is South South, South East and South West will compete for it. No Southern region will get it on a platter of gold. Every region and tribe in the South is qualified for Southern Presidency in 2023. After all, South South is yet to do Eight years. We did just 5.3 years. We are still yet to govern for full blown 8 years . Nobody should be hoping to get 2023 presidency as a gift. Every region in the South is qualified. Period.

In summary, the most peaceful scenario in 2023 in the case Buhari wins 2019, is if APC chose a South South candidate. Both igbo and Yoruba will allign. None of them will want to be seen as enemy of South South because of Niger Delta oil. And Nothing will destroy Biafra agitation more than APC fielding a South South Candidate and PDP fielding a South East candidate or a Northern candidate. As there is no one Nigeria without South South oil, there is no Biafra without South South Oil. South South oil is the umblical cord keeping Nigeria together as one. And the same South South oil is the motivation for Biafra agitation.

Pancakes are just waffles that are off the grid. Thank you for reading.

Another tales by moonlight since we have decided to be regional... middlebelt for 2023.

ZaraGift:
[s][/s]


Who are the Igbos and who presidency don help.
AFONJAS CAN'T STAY A DAY WITHOUT MENTIONING IGBO

[quote author=ZaraGift post=74123913][s][/s]

[s]Who are the Igbos and who presidency don help. AFONJAS CAN'T STAY A DAY WITHOUT MENTIONING IGBO[/s]

Esseite:
Another tales by moonlight since we have decided to be regional... middlebelt for 2023.

Yes oh. Every one has a right to aspire.

Op what is your tribe in SS?
Stop hiding under SS to type rubbish because there are over 40 ethnic groups in SS including Igbos..
Tell us your tribe..? Don't be ashamed.

Did you say that SS will align with SW politically ?... In which century ?

Be proud of your skull mining republic for once, this is a faceless forum, nobody will beat you OK ?

I have told your brothers several times to stop this dead antics.. Dont cry that SS dissapointed in 2019 and beyond..
Stay on your lane..

South South man ko
North North man ni..

This is the spiritual leader of the Yoruba nation bowing to saraki.

No wonder tinubu said all the obas in Yorubaland are useless

ZaraGift:
[s][/s]


Who are the Igbos and who presidency don help.
AFONJAS CAN'T STAY A DAY WITHOUT MENTIONING IGBO

It is finished for the bigoted tribe of Israel.
They complain every one hate them be it Hausa Fulani Ikwerre Kanuri South Africans Indians Malaysians Singaporeans Arabs

Oloripelebe:

This one strong o

Why are you people so full of hate and bigotry?

life2017:
[s]Since the story of Fashola and Osibanjo asking South west to vote APC so that presidency will come to South west (South in general) in 2023, the way Igbos have reacted have been very pathetic and pitiful.

What many of them are saying is that PDP will field a Northerner if APC field a South west candidate in 2023.
What Igbos are saying by that is that they have accepted defeat ahead against a Yoruba candidate. They believe if APC field a Yoruba candidate and PDP field an Igbo candidate, that the Yoruba will beat the igbo with landslide victory. What a pitiful situation? That is what happen when u isolate yourself and burn down bridges over lack of emotional intelligence!

It means Igbos don't believe any Igbo man dead or alive can defeat any Yoruba man in 2023. And they also don't believe any Igbo man dead or alive can defeat a Northerner in Nigeria Presidential race.

Thus what Igbos are hoping for is a Situation where the two major parties (APC and PDP) field candidate from South East so that they won't have to compete or work for it. That is delusion. Even Buhari and Atiku are not from the same geopolitical zone. Buhari is north west while Atiku is North east.

What Igbos fail to understand is that South South might have join South East on Anti Buhari stand, South South will not join them on Anti Yoruba Stand. If a Yoruba contest against a Northerner in 2023, South South will give most vote to the Yoruba. South South is not part of the cold war between Yorubas and Igbos. We are not stupid. We SS don't have any personal issue with the Yorubas.

Another thing Igbos may fail to understand is that Northerners are calculative and politically mature. Even if PDP field kwankwanso, he will not get a unified Northern support against a Yoruba candidate from APC as long as Buhari endorse the Yoruba with clear message of one good turn deserves another. Alot of Northerners will allign with the Yoruba candidate. Should the Yoruba candidate win despite South East opposition, just know the next time presidency comes to South it will come to South South.

As far as I am concerned if Buhari wins 2019, 2023 presidency will be contested by the whole South. That is South South, South East and South West will compete for it. No Southern region will get it on a platter of gold. Every region and tribe in the South is qualified for Southern Presidency in 2023. After all, South South is yet to do Eight years. We did just 5.3 years. We are still yet to govern for full blown 8 years . Nobody should be hoping to get 2023 presidency as a gift. Every region in the South is qualified. Period.

In summary, the most peaceful scenario in 2023 in the case Buhari wins 2019, is if APC chose a South South candidate. Both igbo and Yoruba will allign. None of them will want to be seen as enemy of South South because of Niger Delta oil. And Nothing will destroy Biafra agitation more than APC fielding a South South Candidate and PDP fielding a South East candidate or a Northern candidate. As there is no one Nigeria without South South oil, there is no Biafra without South South Oil. South South oil is the umblical cord keeping Nigeria together as one.[/s]

Demented yoro-lamentations.

You Yoruba always think you are wise and others are stupid. Buhari and Atiku are both from the north and fulani. The fundamental thing is they are both fulani.

Nigerians and Igbos also did the same for yorubas after they cried for years about MKO's murder. Two parties fielded two yorubas OBJ and falae, even Alex Ekweme who was supported by the likes of Shagari for presidency was begged to step down for OBJ Yoruba presidency.

Now tell me why you ingrates can't do the same for Igbos but rather taunt them and tell the whole world how you'll always stand against Igbo presidency after their votes delivered a Yoruba into presidency in 1999?
They have woken up and are very much alive to your shenanigans, and will play your brand of 'sophisticated' politics which makes you think you smarter than everyone else.

FYI, the SESS (old East) always vote in the same pattern since independence because they think alike. There will be no division in the way the SE and SS votes because of yorubas who even treacherously voted against the SS in 2015. You can bank on that.

You want the solution to the problem? Field two Igbo men in the major political parties, Yoruba should then vote Igbo the way Igbo have voted for yorubas and north since 1970s till date. No Igbo man tried to play spoiler when yorubas were asking for pacification over MKO in 1999, if yorubas don't believe in the equity of having Igbo leadership then they can as well forget about the presidency too. Until they decide to come to equity with clean hands.

THERE WILL BE NO YORUBA PRESIDENCY TILL THE EAST TAKES IT'S RIGHTFUL TURN. EXCEPT A NORTHERN PRESIDENT DIES AND A YORUBA VP ASSUMES LEADERSHIP. IT'S A SUREBANKER!

Eyes don open.

KillTheZombies:


Demented yoro-lamentations.

You Yoruba always think you are wise and others are stupid. Buhari and Atiku are both from the north and fulani. The fundamental thing is they are both fulani.

Nigerian also did the same for yorubas after they cried for years about MKO's murder. Two parties fielded two yorubas OBJ and falae, even Alex Ekweme who was supported by the likes of Shagari for presidency was begged to step down OBJ.

Now tell me why you ingrates can't do the same for Igbos but rather taunt them and tell the whole world how you'll always stand against Igbo presidency after their votes delivered a Yoruba into presidency in 2019.
They have woken up and are very much alive to your shenanigans, and will play your brand of 'sophisticated' which makes you think you smarter than everyone else.

FYI, the SESS (old East) vote in the same pattern since independence because they think alive. There will be no division in the way the SE and SS votes because of yorubas who even treacherously voted against the SS in 2015. You can bank on that.

You want the solution to the problem? Field two Igbo men in the major political parties, Yoruba should then vote Igbo the way Igbo have voted for yorubas and north since 1970s till date. No Igbo man tried to play spoiler when yorubas were asking for pacification over MKO in 1999, if yorubas don't believe in thr equity of having Igbo leadership then can as well forget about the presidency too. Until they decide to come to equity with clean hands.

Eyes don open o.

These people afonjas have Low IQ. That's why I don't engage them. I just erase their posts and attach that Ajayi ugly picture. They are naturally an inferior race that's why they need Biafrans around to be alive.

lionjungle3000:


These people afonjas have Low IQ.

They think they are smart. They were banking on the distrust between the East and North to smuggle themselves into Aso rock.

Yorobba mode of thinking in HD: 'we will never vote IBO, but because north and east have squabble, the IBO will prefer to vote for us again after voting OBJ. IBO no get sense but we are smart and sophisticated'

KillTheZombies:


Nigerians and Igbos also did the same for yorubas after they cried for years about MKO's murder. Two parties fielded two yorubas OBJ and falae, even Alex Ekweme who was supported by the likes of Shagari for presidency was begged to step down for OBJ Yoruba presidency.

Now tell me why you ingrates can't do the same for Igbos but rather taunt them and tell the whole world how you'll always stand against Igbo presidency after their votes delivered a Yoruba into presidency in 1999?
They have woken up and are very much alive to your shenanigans, and will play your brand of 'sophisticated' politics which makes you think you smarter than everyone else.

FYI, the SESS (old East) always vote in the same pattern since independence because they think alike. There will be no division in the way the SE and SS votes because of yorubas who even treacherously voted against the SS in 2015. You can bank on that.

You want the solution to the problem? Field two Igbo men in the major political parties, Yoruba should then vote Igbo the way Igbo have voted for yorubas and north since 1970s till date. No Igbo man tried to play spoiler when yorubas were asking for pacification over MKO in 1999, if yorubas don't believe in the equity of having Igbo leadership then they can as well forget about the presidency too. Until they decide to come to equity with clean hands.

THERE WILL NO YORUBA PRESIDENCY TILL THE EAST TAKES IT'S RIGHTFUL TURN. EXCEPT A NORTHERN PRESIDENT DIES AND A YORUBA VP ASSUMES LEADERSHIP.

Eyes don open.

Ekwueme did not step down for Obasanjo, He was beaten silly by OBJ

Like we will do again in 2023

Ekwueme contested the PDP convention twice and lost twice to OBJ

OP, They are cowards, I remember in 2007 when all the SS governors came out to challenge for Presidency, Donald Duke, Victor Attan, Ibori, Odili even Igbnedion, where were the Ibo governors? They were hiding hoping to be VP

raumdeuter:


Ekwueme did not step down for Obasanjo, He was beaten silly by OBJ

Like we will do again in 2023

Ekwueme contested the PDP convention twice and lost twice to OBJ

OP, They are cowards, I remember in 2007 when all the SS governors came out to challenge for Presidency, Donald Duke, Victor Attan, Ibori, Odili even Igbnedion, where were the Ibo governors? They were hiding hoping to be VP

Mr Dayo, if you like revise history and lament till you quench. You and I know that the permutation do not favour a Yoruba president before Eastern presidency.

If Yoruba cannot wait and tries to play a fast one thinking they are smart, East no go vote yoruba and north go vote north. You know it, I know it. You will not get the satisfaction of eating your cake and still having it after insulting the east.

Take this message to the bank. It's a blank check.

there is no Biafra without South South Oil

Gbaam! Add access to sea.

gurnam:


Gbaam! Add access to sea.

Bayo we are talking yoro-presidency.
Do you disagree with the factoids I wrote up there or do you embrace the fact about the helplessness of a Yoruba presidency which actually elicited the lamentations from the OP who started the thread to cry about the Igbo sensitization about yoro-presidency?

KillTheZombies:

Mr Dayo, if you like revise history and lament till you quench. You and I know that the permutation do not favour a Yoruba president before Eastern presidency.
If Yoruba cannot wait, East no go vote yoruba and north go vote north. You know it, I know it. You will not get the satisfaction of eating your cake and still having it after insulting the east.
Take this message to the bank. It's a blank check.

Nobody needs Ibo votes and by the time we get to 2023, the Yoruba intelligence will prevail as usual. The same way our intelligence prevailed and we got OBJ to rule 8yrs and Osinbajo to be VP for 4 soon 8yrs

You were telling a lie that Ibos conceded the Presidency to Yorubas, The PDP Presidency was contested by OBJ and Ekwueme no one stepped down

And OBJ soundly defeated Ekwueme both times

No one concedes presidency to any region everyone fights for it. After Osibanjo, when it comes to the South again everyone will fight for it be it Akpabio, Oshiomole or Amaechi

Only a lazy man will be waiting for people to concede to him

KillTheZombies:


Bayo we are talking yoro-presidency.
Do you disagree with the factoids I wrote up there or do you embrace the fact about the helplessness of a Yoruba presidency which actually elicited the lamentations from the OP who started the thread to cry about the Igbo sensitization about yoro-presidency?

There are no facts in your write up only lies

OBJ defeated Ekwueme twice. That is the fact

The yorubas have ahd their turn during Obasanjo's eight years.It is either another southern region gets it or the North will keep it forever!!.If a Yoruba candidate emerges in APC in 2023,,The SS/SE will support a northern PDP ticket.Take it to the banks

KillTheZombies:

Nigerians and Igbos also did the same for yorubas after they cried for years about MKO's murder. Two parties fielded two yorubas OBJ and falae, even Alex Ekweme who was supported by the likes of Shagari for presidency was begged to step down for OBJ Yoruba presidency.

The quoted above is a lie.
But we are not surprised, when emotional people cannot present facts they resort to lies

raumdeuter:


There are no facts in your write up only lies

OBJ defeated Ekwueme twice. That is the fact

Then allow Osibanjo to also defeat Tambuwal in 2023 lets see how it will play out

KillTheZombies:


Bayo we are talking yoro-presidency.
Do you disagree with the factoids I wrote up there or do you embrace the fact about the helplessness of a Yoruba presidency which actually elicited the lamentations from the OP who started the thread to cry about the Igbo sensitization about yoro-presidency?

Stop your miserable sermon, yorubas will contest APC Presidential primary in 2023, igbos will not blackmail anyone.
Meet yorubas on the political field

PaChukwudi44:
The yorubas have ahd their turn during Obasanjo's eight years.It is either another southern region gets it or the North will keep it forever!!.If a Yoruba candidate emerges in APC in 2023,,The SS/SE will support a northern PDP ticket.Take it to the banks

What is your business with the arrangement of APC? PDP is choosing an Ibo VP with the hopes that Ibos will take over in 2023, APC is choosing a Yoruba vice with the hopes that Yorubas will take over in 2023

You have made your deal, Now ensure that your PDP wins

When we get to 2023, our superior political intellect will prevail as usual while the losers will only cry

Vacancy...
Teachers needed

1. English language graduate (British curriculum)
2. Preschool teachers (EYFS)

Note.. you must be residing in Benin.

Send your CV to... Vokesmaja@gmail.com

PaChukwudi44:
[s]The yorubas have ahd their turn during Obasanjo's eight years.It is either another southern region gets it or the North will keep it forever!!.If a Yoruba candidate emerges in APC in 2023,,The SS/SE will support a northern PDP ticket.Take it to the banks[/s]

Pure rubbish

Osibanjo and Fashola already told you what you are up against in 2023

Go and revive your moribund Biafra project

PaChukwudi44:

Then allow Osibanjo to also defeat Tambuwal in 2023 lets see how it will play out

Are you conceding that no Ibo alive can take on Osinbajo?

Well historically we know one side to be cowards scared of facing Northerners

First republic, Awolowo faced Balewa, Zik and Ibos hid behind Balewa
Second republic Awolowo challenged Shagari, Ekwueme and Ibos hid behind Shagari
Third republic Abiola challenged Tofa, Sylvester Ugo and Ibos hid behind Tofa
Fourth Republic OBJ challeneged Buhari, Ibos and Okadigbo hid behind Northerners


Its the pattern cowards hide behind their masters like Ben Nwabueze hugging Atiku like a child who lost a parent

raumdeuter:
[s]

Nobody needs Ibo votes and by the time we get to 2023, the Yoruba intelligence will prevail as usual. The same way our intelligence prevailed and we got OBJ to rule 8yrs and Osinbajo to be VP for 4 soon 8yrs

You were telling a lie that Ibos conceded the Presidency to Yorubas, The PDP Presidency was contested by OBJ and Ekwueme no one stepped down

And OBJ soundly defeated Ekwueme both times

No one concedes presidency to any region everyone fights for it. After Osibanjo, when it comes to the South again everyone will fight for it be it Akpabio, Oshiomole or Amaechi

Only a lazy man will be waiting for people to concede to him[/s]

Dayo, we've heard these lamentation and chestbeating about your so-called sophistication a billion times. E no change reality. It has become a cliche and everyone mocks you with it.

Fact 1. Yoruba waited for the rest of the country to conceed to the presidency to them in 1999. That's why the first and ONLY elected yoruba presidency emerged when all the parties fielded Yoruba. Therefore according to you yorubas are lazy. Na you talk am. No be me.

Fact 2. Ekwueme was never defeated by OBJ. Shagari was a figure that midwived 1999 presidency, him and the likes of Orji Uzor persuaded Ekwueme to step down because yorubas were still burning and killing non-indigenes in their region. OPC was founded that period as yoruba militia.


Fact 3. The only time yoruba voters ever put anyone in presidency was in 2015 (which was a close call because it was mainly between the North and a Southern minority) just yesterday. Before then, there had been 5 presidential elections and Yoruba voters failed while Eastern voters won. So the facts and factoids do not agree with you that Eastern votes are not needed. Even right there in Lagos, your political Candidates wear more Igbo regalia than agbada on campaign posters they spend millions to print. They seek Igbo endorsement. If Eastern votes are 'useless' that won't be happening.



Take heart and watch how the politics go in 2023, if Nigeria is still lucky enough to still remain a geographical expression by then.

KillTheZombies:


Dayo, we've heard these lamentation and chestbeating bout your sophistication a billion times. E no change reality. It has become a cliche and everyone mocks you with it.

[b]Fact 1. Yoruba waited for the rest of the country to conceded to the presidency to them. That why the first and ONLY elected yoruba presidency emerged when all the parties fielded Yoruba. Therefore according to you yorubas are lazy. Na you talk am.

Fact 2. Ekwueme was never defeated by OBJ. Shagari was a figure that midwived 1999 presidency, him and the likes of Orji Uzor persuaded Ekwueme to step down because yorubas were still burning and killing non-indigenes in their region. OPC was founded that period as yoruba militia.

Fact 3. The only time yoruba voters ever put anyone in presidency was in 2015 (which was a close call because it was mainly between the North and Southern minority) just yesterday. Before then, there had been 5 presidential elections and Yoruba voters failed while Eastern voters won. So the facts and factoid do not agree with you that East votes are not needed. Even right there in Lagos. Candidates wear more Igbo regalia than agbada on campaign posters they spend millions to print. If Eastern votes are 'useless' that won't be happening.


Take heart and watch the politics go in 2024, if Nigeria is still lucky enough to still remain a geographical expression by then[/b].

Fact 1 Its a lie. No one conceded to Yorubas, They had 2 presidential candidates because they defeated their challengers, Ekwueme and Ogbonayya Onu contested the primaries and lost to OBJ and Falae respectively

Fact 2 Obasanjo Defeated Ekwueme the results are shown below
OLUSEGUN OBASANJO 1,658 67.98%
ALEX EKWUEME 521 21.36%
DON ETIEBET 106 4.35%
GRAHAM DOUGLAS 71 2.91%
JIM NWOBODO 59 2.42%
PHILIP ASIODU 12 0.49%
FRANCIS ELLAH 12 0.49%
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TOTAL 2,439 100.00

Below is an article interviewing Ekwueme himself and him saying why he lost to Obasanjo
https://therecorderng.com/2013/01/31/why-i-lost-to-obasanjo-in-1999-ekwueme/

If Ekwueme is saying he lost, Yet one internet troll thinks he didnt lose

gurnam:


Stop your miserable sermon, yorubas will contest APC Presidential primary in 2023, igbos will not blackmail anyone.
Meet yorubas on the political field

It is not a sermon per se. It is a factoid. Many yorubas like the OP who started the thread are shocked that the East have woken up to yoruba antics. Directing your message to him will be appropriate. Tell him to stop yelling and enjoy the karma that you are about to bring upon yourself. Karma is smiling widely and awaiting you in 2023 if you don't make a detour.