Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,201,440 members, 7,978,390 topics. Date: Friday, 18 October 2024 at 07:45 AM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 (22085 Views)
Don't Let Anyone Lick Your Private, It's Demonic - Rev. Bernard Achiuior / The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You / Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival (2) (3) (4)
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (Reply) (Go Down)
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Bondinus(m): 1:16pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Since you don't go to church, and according to you, you have started today. Mention one good thing in helping the NEEDY your church or some churches have done? |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Zivaharry(m): 1:18pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
chiommy123:seriously, somebody told me about tithe, then I ask him can I give to somebody in need......he said no, I should take it to the temple of God, the I ask again.....but bible said u as a human is a temple of the holy spirit..... And God is a spirit(Trinity)... He jux kept quiet. 2 Likes |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by philsbaba: 1:18pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: This one na thief oo If increase means monthly salary, it means people should pay first fruit every month. I.e give pastors all their salary every month. You are a thief. Stop disgracing christians. 2 Likes |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:19pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Bondinus:I started going to church again today and you expect me to know all of that? Mind you I've not even started . |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by biodunid: 1:19pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
The wahala with you guys and your fundamental sleight of hand is to teach that the only way to give to God is through pastors / church which is quite contrary to what Jesus taught us all in Mat 25: 31-46. Pls read it below and be reminded how Jesus wants us to give to him and serve him. Meanwhile I know a fellow who just did several transfers this morning. First was to set up 12 recurring transfers of N40k each to his brother who is in his 70s but has fallen on hard times despite having blessed the whole family when the going was good. Second was a N100k transfer to his neighbour who is ill and also not in good shape financially. Pls note he is not on good terms with the neighbour politically. Third was 12 recurring transfers of N15k each to a cousin who is a struggling widow with two kids. Fourth is N180k to a female cousin in her 70s who is childless and not too able economically. Fifth is N360k to a cousin he wronged in childhood so this is more of ongoing reparation. Pls note that today isn't an extraordinary day for him as he generally provides for the needs of those around him as God has blessed him. Question is: Can we say this fellow would have complied better with the words of Jesus in Mat 25 and elsewhere if he had given all this money to some overfed pastor who had deceived him by claiming to be the only way to God? We should read our bibles pali to pali and stop being made merchandise of. Parable of The Sheep and the Goats 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. 34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” 5 Likes |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by OkaiCorne(m): 1:21pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Eres94: Long story. Give us biblical examples where; 1) God asked for money as first fruit. 2) Where Christians gave the Apostles first fruit. |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:21pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Bondinus:How did it? |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Bondinus(m): 1:23pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:But you seem to know more of the Bible verses that FAVOURS your claim. And I think there are a lot of questions others and I asked that you haven't answered. |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by codybanks23: 1:24pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Whats the definition of first fruit? Is it suppose to be yearly or every increase or every new job? |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by KingOfAmebo(m): 1:24pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Funny, you now trying to tell people what the bible meant and not what is written, so money was not in existence when the bible was written so they don't know the difference between monetary increase and agricultural increase and as such it is omitted. Keep fooling yourself. I dey watch your folly in 3D. 2 Likes |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:24pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
philsbaba: I never said that o. Firstfruits is tithe. You pay ten percent of every increase you get, be it monthly, yearly or daily. |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Bondinus(m): 1:25pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:St Paul said Christians are becoming lazy and begging people and asking them for food when they should be working. So pastor can work and still do his business mid week and Sundays too |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:25pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
KingOfAmebo:You slotted in agricultural increase but you don't want me to slot in monetary increase in the verse. Aren't they all increases ? |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:27pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Bondinus:And when the pastor fails to show up for mid-week service due to traffic or delay at work, who will preach that day? Or do you think preaching is for everyone? |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:27pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Bondinus:ask and I will answer you |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Aystarz: 1:28pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
DeSepiero:That's because he's just as dubious. You can't expect him to give what he doesn't have. 2 Likes |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:29pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
codybanks23:It is ten percent of your salary which is your new increase. Firstfruit is another word for tithe. |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Zivaharry(m): 1:30pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:shut your mouth up....you are not God...stop telling people what God will do for them....are you God mouth piece......Go to Mathew 7:7, Jesus, Jesus didn't tell u to pay a dime...before ur prayers will be answered... He said jux ask and it shall be giving....... Also go to Deuteronomy, 28.....read it down......God tell the Israelites to obey certain commandments (the ten commandments). …....then all d blessings mentioned there will be giving to them......and non of the commandments talk abt tithe or first fruit......please stop manipulating people Christ sake.....God won't spare you, if they eventually realize this indoctrination of urs and loose complete faith in God.....jux allow pipu to give with their heart.....stop putting fears in them. |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by exlinkleads(f): 1:32pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: I have not insulted anybody on Nairaland before but your ruse are pathetic. i feel like vomiting while reading your assumptions and reply to people. You are indeed a typical example of the people God was talking abt when he said and I quote "my people perish because they lack wisdom". How can u say the reason for poor people in Nigeria is as a result of not giving to God? were the mess did u read that? Why not keep quiet if you don't know what to say. 2 Likes |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Zivaharry(m): 1:33pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:point of correction... God said I will bless and have mercy on whom I want to have mercy on. |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:36pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Zivaharry:He kept quiet because he got to where his knowledge is limited. Your body is the temple of God, but you are not the church which is the house of God. The house of God or church is the gathering of everyone who has God living in them. Such gathering is overseen by pastors. 1 Timothy 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. So you are to take your tithe to God's house as commanded by him, not giving it to the needy yourself. Malachai 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by KingOfAmebo(m): 1:37pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: I only made a reference to the point you are trying to make which is entirely deceptive. What exactly is first fruits from a Christian perspective? Although some Christian churches do celebrate harvest time, the idea of giving the First Fruits to the church has been for the large part not actively observed in Western Christianity. In Eastern Orthodox Christianity, the 'first fruits' tradition is kept during the Great Feast for the Transfiguration of Our Lord, held on August 6/19. In the Canonical Gospels, the concept of the harvest of First Fruits is used metaphorically and allegorically. In the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus is described as stating that “in the time of harvest” he would instruct the harvesters (i.e., the angels) to gather the “tares”, bind them into bundles, and burn them, but to "gather the wheat into [his] barn" (Matthew 13:30). Some argue that this teaching is about the Last Judgment rather than offering any thanksgiving to a deity, the “tares” being sinners or unbelievers of God and his son Jesus and the “wheat” being believers of God, although it also fits the rapture as noted in (Matthew 24:31) and (Revelation 14:4). Other Christians, as well as early Gnostic writers argued it was less about sin and more about following Jesus' teachings and abandoning the teachings they had formerly known. In the Gospel of John, Jesus is described as stating “...he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together” (John 4:36), which some Christians argue is about rewards from God for those who perform God’s work. Tithe literally means a tenth. First Fruits means to appropriately mark a portion of the produce of the field as belonging to God. In the Law of Moses there is a parallel between the offering of first fruits and the offering of the first-born male which opens the womb. The latter belongs to the Lord, and must be either sacrificed to him, or redeemed. The Apostle Paul also referred to Jesus' resurrection as a type of "First Fruit" (1Corinthians 15:20) where he says: "But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep." 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Eres94: 1:38pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
WaffenSS: bro...God created everything... and it all bends to his will, he is more intelligent and wiser than us n other creature.. and we a reflection of that creator Satan (Lucifer) could easily had be you or I..or maybe Adam or Christ... why because of free will which carries the consequence of probability meaning I can choose to do this or not. free will is freedom and just as the latter word suggest free-dom put an e (dome) at the end you will understand if you were in the position of a creator that there must be a limit or an extent of freedom/functionality of a creation just like you have a machine in order to function without problem. so Lucifer knowing how God set up everything manipulated some things that made a lot of mess for humanity. our Father was left with two options wipe us all out becos we were corrupted in the flesh or save us from our abnormalities which Satan caused . and if Christ be the good thing that came out of Nazareth how much more weren't still good people in the world functioning although not at a 100% according to his will like Enoch, Abraham, Joseph, David, etc not that these above couldn't still have fallen..but because God became their very strength, hope and salvation from their corrupted flesh, vanities of the world and principalities & powers. didn't he had to take Enoch away still alive becos of the sinful world God is good |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:38pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Zivaharry: Did he now say he will just start having mercy and blessing people anyhow? Or perhaps you think he will abandon his obedient children and bless the disobedient ones? |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by wavylevel: 1:38pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Thief like you! Ole! The same way normal human beings created by God in developed nations give their first fruit abi? Una nor dey ever think. You pack sh1t for head nor mean say you must to talk sh1t. Brainless, backward black man. 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by sonofthunder: 1:39pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:children of hate will not let you rest. |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Bondinus(m): 1:41pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:During the time of the first Christians, if Peter wasn't around, maybe arrested as it was customary then, will fellowship hold or not, if it will. Why can't the pastor delegate someone to startup till he comes? |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Zivaharry(m): 1:41pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:42pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
exlinkleads: Not giving to God means you don't acknowledge him in your life and work. Yet you expect him to acknowledge you even after you failed to give him 10% out of the 100% he gave you 1 Like |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by Bondinus(m): 1:42pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Kai, bros no talk again. You no be God |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by alBHAGDADI: 1:43pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
sonofthunder:Don't mind them |
Re: First Fruit: Don't Let Anyone Tell You Not To Give To God In 2019 by bukeb633(m): 1:45pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
And u think those that fall to you guys scamming never breakdown or go to mechanic or have other misfortune. Keep on deceiving people |
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (Reply)
5 Supernatural Experiences You Will Have When You Genuinely Encounter God... / Osinbajo Helicopter Crash: Pastor Prize Aluko Prophecy About Plan To Kill VP / Five Ways You Can Identify A Good Church To Attend
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 118 |