RodgersAkpafu:



Can you see the gap....

Our supposed "model minority highly skilled pipu" have more ppl caught up in forgery than the next 4 countries put together
Now that IRCC has asked for more ppl to (re)submit their documents, be assured that that number with further balloon

Now, you have some data to work on as regards your much repeated forgery line

For starters, when presented with such a table first thing is to confirm the source or legitimacy of the data.
Second is to work out of what the percentage of defaulters are in total and are for each group.
Lastly, you compare the percentage of defaultees by group against the total average to see if any is under or over represented and to what degree (if significant). All before going on to more details like trends e.t.c

I mean, this is basic stuff.

ednut1:
as seen on TikTok . The country of origin for the 50k non compliant students. Those in glass houses should not throw stones. Your country is number 3 . 😒

Interesting that despite all the prevailing narrative, India has 5.6% of their attendees being non-compliant as against the general average of 7.2%. Better still, their rate of defaults is less (i.e better) than all mentioned countries on your screenshot. For example China and Nigeria sits at 6.4% and 11.2% respectively.

Without Indians, the average default rate would be higher at 8.7%


If you were a policy advisor looking at this with the aim of reducing non-compliant students while retaining good number of arrivals, what would you do?

RodgersAkpafu:


We all know these things

IRCC have asked Indians as well as other people to resubmit documents, but of all nationalities, they are the only one fretting and panicking
IRCC had to address it, as Below

https://thepienews.com/ircc-addresses-concerns-over-document-resubmission/

Just as you’ve been shown multiple times, single occurrences and anecdotes are not reliable data when analyzing large groups. You should be educated enough to know that.

Go study your biases and see if they hold true. If they do, present me some data.

ednut1:
as seen on TikTok . The country of origin for the 50k non compliant students. Those in glass houses should not throw stones. Your country is number 3 . 😒

Almost half of Ghanaian students are non-compliant. Some people go just dey hide dey do bad bad things on the low.

RodgersAkpafu:



Can you see the gap....

Our supposed "model minority highly skilled pipu" have more ppl caught up in forgery than the next 4 countries put together
Now that IRCC has asked for more ppl to (re)submit their documents, be assured that that number with further balloon

As for Nigeria
We never claimed we were the "model minority nau"
we never claimed we were better than other ppl
So being caught up in fraud albeit on a smaller scale is not "headlines"

look at it as percentages and you will see that Nigeria is worse in that regard. That is over 10%, Ghana around 50% !!

jedisco:


Interesting that despite all the prevailing narrative, India has 5.6% of their attendees being non-compliant as against the general average of 7.2%. Better still, their rate of defaults is less (i.e better) than all mentioned countries on your screenshot. For example China and Nigeria sits at 6.4% and 11.2% respectively.

Without Indians, the average default rate would be higher at 8.7%


If you were a policy advisor looking at this with the aim of reducing non-compliant students while retaining good number of arrivals, what would you do?

This guy is very very funny

If I tell you the incidence if fraud in my own school, you will be shocked.
Like really really shocked
The thing has become a recurring decimal again and again and again and again
This has been rhe basis for my ringing rhe alarm ⏰️
But you talk say na "trope"
no wahala

I spoke of SIA, do you know how many Indians have been banged up due to their forgery
So so many
And the hurtful thing about this was that some Nigerians lost their badge by virtue of being associated with the centre

Let's talk of industry level fraud
That one is on another level
Fake experiences have become the order of the day

Even some ppl have come here to share personal experiences of dealings with Indian workers/ppl, yet you still say they are "isolated incidents"

I bet if they were positive, you won't scrutinise it as much, because they fit into your own bias of Indians being "super citizens"

Treadway:
look at it as percentages and you will see that Nigeria is worse in that regard. That is over 10%, Ghana around 50% !!

Look Mr. Treadway

By Year end, expect that figure to balloon even bigger
IRCC has asked rhem to resubmit documents
Just wait and see when the time elapsed and they didn't submit
That's when the real alarm will blow

obviously some of them have slipped through the cracks, but not for long
Now that extra scrutiny is gonna be hanging over their head, expect more of this, and their Oluwole Industrial Complex in India get banged up even more

RodgersAkpafu:

Look Mr. Treadway

By Year end, expect that figure to balloon even bigger
IRCC has asked rhem to resubmit documents
Just wait and see when the time elapsed and they didn't submit
That's when the real alarm will blow

obviously some of them have slipped through the cracks, but not for long
Now that extra scrutiny is gonna be hanging over their head, expect more of this, and their Oluwole Industrial Complex in India get banged up even more

lol. Fair enough. Also watching to see how it all unfolds

jedisco:


Just as you’ve been shown multiple times, single occurrences and anecdotes are not reliable data when analyzing large groups. You should be educated enough to know that.

Go study your biases and see if they hold true. If they do, present me some data.

Coming from the person who confidently said in public that Nogeria is owing India $20 billion

When "single anecdotes" becomes recurring decimals, then it is something to form an opinion on. Afterall that's what these guys benefitted from in the beginning when a handful of good engineers from IIT stormed the world
The "stereotype" then became every Indian engineer is good (which is a bloody lie, but okay)

I have a better admonition for you Dr. Jedisco
Rid yourself being star struck over Indians and their supposed "successes" and watch out for the next ten years, when the searchlight will be beamed much much more on them.

And like I said, we are doing our own part in our capacity to fish out as many many many forgers and banging them up.

Cheers and have a good Sunday

Treadway:
lol. Fair enough. Also watching to see how it all unfolds

Yea
Going forward, people will be out for them.
Especially after the fallout of the H1B thing
Do I feel bad for what's coming for them ?
Yes I do....

However, I see this as a necessary evil to correct and slap out of their face every delusional thought that there is something "special" about them and sneering at other people


Just recently a white-person here won a £40k discrimination case
Guess who was the offender?
You guessed right
An Indian
I read the case and I just shook my head at how emotionally unintelligent that woman was to fall into such "trap"

I mean, some people will say that I am doing "bad belle" ; that I am being "biased" and I am "hating on success"
Some will even say go bring "data"
Do you need data to say the sky is blue?
or that if u touch 🔥 your hand gets to burn?
Do we need data to show that Nigerians can be mercenary to each other abroad ? (refer to the COS scams and other things going on in our community)
The problem here is when you have had a rosy image of a group of ppl and other people are pointing the (obvious) ills prevalent in that community, you will not believe it

We have a 419 problem in Nigeria
Do we need data to prove that?
And does it mean we are all 419?
The same applies to these ppl as well

jedisco:


Interesting that despite all the prevailing narrative, India has 5.6% of their attendees being non-compliant as against the general average of 7.2%. Better still, their rate of defaults is less (i.e better) than all mentioned countries on your screenshot. For example China and Nigeria sits at 6.4% and 11.2% respectively.

Without Indians, the average default rate would be higher at 8.7%


If you were a policy advisor looking at this with the aim of reducing non-compliant students while retaining good number of arrivals, what would you do?

Very simple
Scrutinise the indian side more to weed out and rid potential economicmigranta disguised as students out.
This singular act will dramatically reduce the absolute figures

It's also a sign that some people have slipped through the cracks
I will do some retrospective inspections as well (as IRCC is doing now, Kudos to them)
Let's await and see what the data will look like, by this time next year

Cheers

jedisco:


Interesting that despite all the prevailing narrative, India has 5.6% of their attendees being non-compliant as against the general average of 7.2%. Better still, their rate of defaults is less (i.e better) than all mentioned countries on your screenshot. For example China and Nigeria sits at 6.4% and 11.2% respectively.

Without Indians, the average default rate would be higher at 8.7%


If you were a policy advisor looking at this with the aim of reducing non-compliant students while retaining good number of arrivals, what would you do?

The era of working to pay tuition/living expenses is over. Do like Germany and introduce block account where you would have to deposit all required funds and withdraw the portion you need monthly. Non compliance will become zero.

People even working cannot even live well again not to talk of working and paying school fees.

I see many folks who parents sent to Canada some 3-6 years ago all in limbo now either because they refused to go to school, some worked full time instead of going to school while some others only missed a semester or two of school. IRCC now refusing their PGWP. Their parents had good intentions of sending them to school abroad but finances dipped after the economic crises and forex crises in Nigeria.

ednut1:
The era of working to pay tuition/living expenses is over. Do like Germany and introduce block account where you would have to deposit all required funds and withdraw the portion you need monthly. Non compliance will become zero.

megastu:
People even working cannot even live well again not to talk of working and paying school fees.

I see many folks who parents sent to Canada some 3-6 years ago all in limbo now either because they refused to go to school, some worked full time instead of going to school while some others only missed a semester or two of school. IRCC now refusing their PGWP. Their parents had good intentions of sending them to school abroad but finances dipped after the economic crises and forex crises in Nigeria.

Damn
This is damn sad
Seems like the block account as ednut1 suggested is actually the way to go now
It will help in no small measure in sieving the economic migrants from real students

RodgersAkpafu:


Damn
This is damn sad
Seems like the block account as ednut1 suggested is actually the way to go now
It will help in no small measure in sieving the economic migrants from real students

The block account only works when the tuition fees are extremely low or non-existent. Someone can work out that with RWTH Aachen, but not with UoT or Oxford.