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Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by Hotfreezer: 7:33am On Jan 13, 2019
deomelo:



And you conveniently forgot to copy and paste the act you are talking about for us to see

Anyway, your rubbish is meaningless because the man's confession is out in the open so stop insulting our intelligence with your rubbish.

Pay no mind to that miscreant.

That's how he has been talking nonsense since 2015. He has a natural disability which makes him unable to understand legal issues.

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Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by Corrinthians(m): 7:47am On Jan 13, 2019
obailala:
If the constitution says a CJN must declare his assets, why should the CJN (the chief custodian and interpreter of the law) not declare his assets?... How can someone in the position of the CJN claim to 'forget' such a thing?

Finally, if the allegations of PDP are true that the apc govt wants to simply push Onnoghen out, there's nothing surprising or new or undemocratic about that. Politics has always been a GAME, a DIRTY GAME. When involved in politics at any level, one must learn to avoid skeletons at all costs. Or if there must be skeletons in the closet, the entire closet should be buried very deeply. Or else, your enemies who are aware of your flaws will keep silent and wait until an appointed time such as this to unleash their missiles.

Unfortunately, Nigerians are always emotional when the dirtiness of the game doesnt favour their camp. It's only in Nigeria that a thief would be caught red handed and his only defense is that he's being caught because of politics and self acclaimed 'democracy defenders' begin to shout 'tyrant'. Why on earth would a CJN (who knows he's not favoured by the fulani-northern cabal) be this careless?
Eod! We are too emotional!

That is why I took the Amaechi leaks in good faith. In politics, such things are bound to happen, so I don't understand why folks sound surprised when they do.
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by tinktanker: 7:56am On Jan 13, 2019
Biodun556:
He forgot to declare his asset unfortunately just like how the former minister of finance was not aware that she was carrying fake NYSC certificate and she resigned honorably. The CJN two should do same.
and he shld be sent abroad with no harassment too. Like they did for kemi
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by olusola200: 8:18am On Jan 13, 2019
There is no ignorant in law.

Base on this he is guilty it's just common sense


I forget ,no no no no no


Ignorant is not an excuse ,says the first law
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by olajizz01(m): 8:19am On Jan 13, 2019
krendo:
They have the INEC and Police in their pocket

They are worried about an independent judiciary
Independent under my foot, the most corrupt organ of government is judiciary,they collected bribes from almost every case put b4 them most especially the so called supreme court judges.



If you are doubting,ask WIKE of River.
He will tell how much he transferred to that dollarised account.
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by WaffenSS(m): 8:27am On Jan 13, 2019
braveboi4life:
What happened to the loads of petition against oshiomole,Amaechi,babachair, I thought Maina has loads of corruption cases, I thought obanikoro is supposed to be standing trial,I thought senator wamako,akpabio,uzodinma and co should be standing trial.
Please next time you tell me Buhari is not corrupt just go to the market square and argue with them.
Note of warning this country belongs to all of us,we cant allow one pseudodemocratic and unrepentant autocrat hold us hostage,cases should be treated turn by turn,treat the cases of your friends first before you start going outside,that's what integrity is Nigeria cool

Whataboutism


*Gratefulheart01 is a pusssy*
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by CilicMarin: 8:33am On Jan 13, 2019
ehissi:


You obviously don't under a word of what he just said.......

That man is the head of the judiciary, which is a third arm of government. If the head of any arm of government is found wanting, there are disciplinary structures, embedded within such systems so as to respect the dignity of such offices.

Any attempt to circumvent/bypass such system, using legal technicalities by people who are learned, ought to be looked upon with suspicion.

That's why most commentators make reference to Saraki, he is the head of the legislature, the second arm of government. If you dont want him, take advantage of systems within his own arm of government and rid yourself of him, but trying to use strong arm tactics to push him out sets a bad precedence.

Tomorrow what if PDP wins presidential election and the next Senate president is from APC, you have successfully set a bad example for them or any other government to follow.

Of which all this is a non-issue, if truly the dignity of the office of CJN is to be respected. After reviewing such a petition, a simple letter to the CJN via the NJC demanding him to update his asset declaration details will suffice, then if he refuses to declare what he has now acquired, then and only then can you go after him, but because they want him out because he doesnt accept nonsense from the executive is what is bringing all this rubbish.

If it was Mr President this was happening to, you will hear their supporters demanding that the dignity of his office should be respected but the head of the judiciary doesnt deserve same.

A simple review of even President Buhari's asset declaration will butress my point. Even within the armed forces the same applies, the stress of having an auditor to come and review your assets and assist in declaration is enough to promote certain inaccuracies but using that to vilify the CJN because you want a pro-APC person there is uncivilised.

In your own understanding, if the CJN committed murder, he shouldn't be arrested and charged until the Judicial Council concurs

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Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by Hotfreezer: 8:33am On Jan 13, 2019
olajizz01:
Independent under my foot, the most corrupt organ of government is judiciary,they collected bribes from almost every case put b4 them most especially the so called supreme court judges.

If you are doubting,ask WIKE of River.
He will tell how much he transferred to that dollarised account.

That's why Wike has been crying like a barren witch. He knows he has links to that account.
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by eyeview: 8:54am On Jan 13, 2019
LibertyRep:
I'm disappointed. How could he forget such thing as important as asset declaration?
Ignorance isn't an excuse joor and not even from someone like him.

He has obviously played into the hands of those who were reluctant in making him the CJN and should face the music. No sentiments!

The FG should allow the law take it course and not resort into self help.

Do you have comprehension problems. Did he tell you that he forgot an "important thing such as asset declaration".
Please read again and this time without bias.
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by livelymatilda22: 9:18am On Jan 13, 2019
PaChukwudi44:

But I am not in support of Buhari,Tinubu,Fashola,Amaechi and Ga dollar all fathers of corruption
Thst is because they are not in Pdp... Incredible they decamp to Pdp,yoy will list them among the gods you worship
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by Chill2: 9:22am On Jan 13, 2019
The three arms of government in Nigeria are equally corrupt. Their only motive is to enrich self. Sincerely, I don't care what happens to CJN because the common man don't have access to rule of law. The ruling elite of the three arms have conspire to put the average Nigerian in poverty. Is a pity that most youth in this country are confused. The immediate past president of South Korea was impeached and tried because of alleged corrupt practice. No body has the right to enrich self with our collective wealth. The CJN deliberately didn't declare because he knows the said account is a product of corruption. Am not in support of any political party but it breaks might heart to see the average youth whose future is in jeopardy due to long years of established corruption and self enrichment to come here and shout "rule of law". Is a pity we might remain like this for a long time because the Nigerian people don't know what they want. This is my opinion.
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by ehissi(m): 9:26am On Jan 13, 2019
CilicMarin:


In your own understanding, if the CJN committed murder, he shouldn't be arrested and charged until the Judicial Council concurs

Bros even if a military personnel kills someone in or out of the line of duty, you dont charge to court him with his uniform for criminal cases.

You petition the military, they will review the case in line with extant laws - existing in military circles - and recommend the exoneration or dishonourable discharge (dishonourable discharge takes the uniform from the soldier) and handover to the Police for prosecution. That is the established practice to respect the dignity of the commission of a soldier, a commission that flows from the commander-in-chief of the arms forces that grants him a license to kill based on lawful orders from his superiors.



The same applies, tender your case before it (NJC), they will recommend exoneration or his immediate suspension/dismissal and subsequent prosecution based on existing law that guide their practice within the judiciary as an arm of government. It is the established practice.


Trying to arraign a sitting judge in court on criminal charges is just plain madness gone on rampage, if not that justice Danladi himself has proven to be an APC stooge, he should not even be in the mood to entertain trash without know what NJC has said.


It's that simple...........in any case, what is the issue? That his asset declaration didnt cover certain assets. Normally a normal productive human may likely increase in value, so as time progresses an annual review of your asset declaration is ideal. The provisions cover declaration before you occupy an office, thats all. That's why most public office holders do it once and use it consistently, just change the date and resubmit it for time sake.

Someone writes a petition concerning some assets not captured in his asset declaration, an executive that is balanced/stable and not vindictive will simply forward the petition via the NJC copying him, asking to update his asset declaration details (especially if your own asset declaration is like President Buhari's own that has not changed since 2003).

Then when he doesnt including those assets in contention, then you can seek his removal via the same NJC, because you will have established an attempt to hide some assets. Chikena
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by PaChukwudi44(m): 9:35am On Jan 13, 2019
deomelo:





And you conveniently forgot to copy and paste the act you are talking about for us to see


Anyway, your rubbish is meaningless because the man's confession is out in the open so stop insulting our intelligence with your rubbish.

he section says...

3 (d) receive complaints about non‐compliance with or breach of this Act and where the Bureau considers it necessary to do so, refer such complaints to the Code of Conduct Tribunal established by section 20 of this Act in accordance with the provisions of sections 20 to 25 of this Act:

Provided that where the person concerned makes a written admission of such breach or noncompliance, no reference to the Tribunal shall be necessary.

https://www.nairaland.com/4956945/does-section-3-d-ccb#74714353
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by PFRB: 9:37am On Jan 13, 2019
fuckupnation:



Sorry CJN, how many justice have you deliver on behalf of entire Nigerian citizen, this is what happen when a whole CJN from south keep silent in some issues. You suppose to impeach Buhari for long time but you seat their like weak dog and now the man you suppose to impeach is sending you packing. If is issues concerns Nnamdi kanu or IPOB you grow wings. I will see how you’re going to criticism the government or advise the judiciary when they push you out. The problem of Nigeria start from judiciary and you have serve their without changing anything through justice. Sorry for illiterate Buhari to manipulate a chief justice of nation of your grade. You’re disappointment to yourself, your family, your ancestors and your reincarnation. I don’t believe you can be reincarnate because no one will accept to offer scarify to you as his ancestor after hearing how you disappoint yourself.

They will never know that they are being used and will soon be dumped or killed.
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by CilicMarin: 9:42am On Jan 13, 2019
ehissi:


Bros even if a military personnel kills someone in or out of the line of duty, you dont charge to court him with his uniform for criminal cases.

You petition the military, they will review the case in line with extant laws - existing in military circles - and recommend the exoneration or dishonourable discharge (dishonourable discharge takes the uniform from the soldier) and handover to the Police for prosecution. That is the established practice to respect the dignity of the commission of a soldier, a commission that flows from the commander-in-chief of the arms forces that grants him a license to kill based on lawful orders from his superiors.



The same applies, tender your case before it (NJC), they will recommend exoneration or his immediate suspension/dismissal and subsequent prosecution based on existing law that guide their practice within the judiciary as an arm of government. It is the established practice.


Trying to arraign a sitting judge in court on criminal charges is just plain madness gone on rampage, if not that justice Danladi himself has proven to be an APC stooge, he should not even be in the mood to entertain trash without know what NJC has said.


It's that simple...........in any case, what is the issue? That his asset declaration didnt cover certain assets. Normally a normal productive human may likely increase in value, so as time progresses an annual review of your asset declaration is ideal. The provisions cover declaration before you occupy an office, thats all. That's why most public office holders do it once and use it consistently, just change the date and resubmit it for time sake.

Someone writes a petition concerning some assets not captured in his asset declaration, an executive that is balanced/stable and not vindictive will simply forward the petition via the NJC copying him, asking to update his asset declaration details (especially if your own asset declaration is like President Buhari's own that has not changed since 2003).

Then when he doesnt including those assets in contention, then you can seek his removal via the same NJC, because you will have established an attempt to hide some assets. Chikena

Only the police in invested with power to investigate and try crimes according to the Constitution....this is not even debateable...A military officer killed a LASMA the other day in Lagos, he was promptly arrested by the police, investigated and arraigned in court...No more no less!

Unless you are telling us, there is a special Constitution for Judicial officers....then lead us to that or hold your peace forever..

Crime is crime, unless you are under immunity..
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by sugarcoatedhoni: 9:53am On Jan 13, 2019
Biodun556:
He forgot to declare his asset unfortunately just like how the former minister of finance was not aware that she was carrying fake NYSC certificate and she resigned honorably. The CJN two should do same.



Why didn't they hurriedly put Adeosun on trial like they want to do to the CJN


The man is going nowhere, they should come and prove their case



It is only children that don't know what the cabal is up to



Do you know that Lifeless has committed many impeachable offences but zombies always find a way to explain them away
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by ehissi(m): 10:46am On Jan 13, 2019
CilicMarin:


Only the police in invested with power to investigate and try crimes according to the Constitution....this is not even debateable...A military officer killed a LASMA the other day in Lagos, he was promptly arrested by the police, investigated and arraigned in court...No more no less!

Unless you are telling us, there is a special Constitution for Judicial officers....then lead us to that or hold your peace forever..

Crime is crime, unless you are under immunity..

Both bolded statements is proof that you have no idea what is inside our constitution..........

As for the soldier you claim was arrested, I dont know the facts of that case, so I am not at liberty to challenge/affirm what you have said.

By your assertion, it means the police is free to investigate a judge's handling of court cases, based your own interpretation of the constitution and other extant laws without any recourse to the NJC. This is Naive, but you don't need to take my word for it, you can confirm any established lawyer around you what the established practice ought to be.....,..

Note that judges are not just ordinary senior lawyers but representatives/leaders of the third arm of government of our democracy; the judiciary....
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by benkk015: 10:49am On Jan 13, 2019
His assets was updated when he became CJN won't that be used to judge him? We all know it is APC plan to install their stooge from duara as the nxt cjn.Nigerians are patiently watching to know the outcome of this case which will go a long way to determine whether we are actually practising true federalism.
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by Pennywise(m): 11:19am On Jan 13, 2019
Yes Buhari intends to have him removed because he is not a Northerner
Yes Buhari is a myopic, religious, tribalistic clannish bigot.

But Onoghen has consistently frustrated the fight against corruption and that can only be because he is corrupt. His defence that he forgot to....already nails him.

He should be kicked off the bench ASAP. Unfortunately as the Saraki experience has shown the CCB is nothing but a toothless bulldog
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by PaChukwudi44(m): 11:45am On Jan 13, 2019
Pennywise:
Yes Buhari intends to have him removed because he is not a Northerner
Yes Buhari is a myopic, religious, tribalistic clannish bigot.

But Onoghen has consistently frustrated the fight against corruption and that can only be because he is corrupt. His defence that he forgot to....already nails him.

He should be kicked off the bench ASAP. Unfortunately as the Saraki experience has shown the CCB is nothing but a toothless bulldog
Too bad Buhari has no powers to sack him.It will only remain wishful thinking
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by Pennywise(m): 12:27pm On Jan 13, 2019
PaChukwudi44:

Too bad Buhari has no powers to sack him.It will only remain wishful thinking

For as long as you people continue to allow corrupt moles to remain in public service, your wish for a good life in Nigeria will continue to elude you. You are no better than the bigotted iiidiot called Buhari who is blinded by religious and ethnic sentiments
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by psalmsjob: 12:35pm On Jan 13, 2019
GavelSlam:


The executive executes.

The judiciary should never be found wanting in the area of law.
Ooshe! Thank you gan
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by btee13(m): 1:14pm On Jan 13, 2019
Every politician or political appointee has a file with dss, efcc and police to record there every bad move in other to check mate them whenever the need arise. See adeosun own na when she get issue with sec oga them remember say she no get real nysc cert. Nigeria problem is beyond surface, it is very deep. Nigeria civil servant is dominated by several northern family(one ministry of justice,in police,in efcc, in inec, and 1 as governor). NIGERIA PROBLEM IS BEYOND BUHARI. It is for southern people to also help there people in this key places of governance whenever the opportunity arise. All this northern were not in those positions by mere appointment,
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by TheBawse(m): 4:00pm On Jan 13, 2019
momonny:
EXCLUSIVE: What CJN Onnoghen told CCB over asset declaration
January 12, 2019Evelyn Okakwu
Chief Justice of Nigeria, Walter Onnoghen
Chief Justice of Nigeria, Walter Onnoghen
PREMIUM TIMES has obtained details of a statement given by the Chief Justice of Nigeria, Walter Onnoghen, to the Code of Conduct Bureau which is accusing him of false asset declaration.

In one note seen by this newspaper, Mr Onnoghen said he “forgot to update his asset declaration, after the expiration of his 2005 declaration”.

Mr Onnoghen also explained that he believed that the form SCN 000015 filed in December 2016 after he emerged acting CJN would cover for the period after his confirmation as CJN.

The case against Mr Onnoghen came after a group, the Anti-Corruption and Research Based Data Initiative, sent a petition against him alleging wrongdoing in his asset declaration.

The group said the CJN, Nigeria’s most senior judicial officer, maintained illegal accounts containing foreign currencies and did not declare them.

The group’s head, Denis Aghanya, is a member of the ruling All Progressives Congress and a former publicity secretary of the defunct Congress for Progressive Change.

The group said, its petition was brought “bearing in mind the imminence of the 2019 elections and the overwhelming role of the judiciary both before and after the election.”

A statement by the Code of Conduct Tribunal on Saturday, said Mr Onnoghen would be arraigned for alleged false asset charge on Monday — seven days after the petition was brought.

Some lawyers have alleged the trial is politically motivated.

Sebastian Hon, a senior advocate of Nigeria, told PREMIUM TIMES on Saturday it is “more political than it is honest”.




“While I know that the Chief Justice of Nigeria does not enjoy immunity from criminal prosecution, I see this move by the Federal Government as dangerously political and tendentious,” he said.

“Suddenly, we woke to see a petition leaked to the informal or social media, allegedly received by the Code of Conduct on 9th January, 2019. Suddenly, we are told charges have been filed against the CJN. Why this supersonic rush?”

In his response to the queries raised by the CCB, Mr Onnoghen wrote as follows:

“My asset declaration form numbers SCN 00014 and SCN 00005 were declared on the same day, 14/12/2016 because I forgot to make a declaration of my assets after the expiration of my 2005 declaration in 2009. Following my appointment as acting CJN in November, 2016, the need to declare my assets anew made me to realize the mistake.

“I then did the declaration to cover the period in default. I did not include my standard charted bank account in SCN 000014 because I believed they were not opened.

“I did not make a fresh declaration of asset after my substantive appointment as CJN because I was under the impression that my SCN 000015 was to cover that period of four years which includes my term as CJN,” Mr Onnoghen said in his statement dated January 11.

Mr Onnoghen was first appointed acting CJN on November 10, 2017 following the retirement of the former CJN, Mahmoud Mohammed.

His appointment as acting CJN came amidst criticism of President Muhammadu Buhari’s failure to forward his name to the Senate for confirmation as the most senior judge.

On February 8, 2017 Vice President Yemi Osinbajo returned Mr Onnoghen’s name for confirmation to the Senate on March 1.

Mr Onnoghen was subsequently sworn in to office as Nigeria’s 17th CJN on March 8, 2017.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/305421-exclusive-what-cjn-onnoghen-told-ccb-over-asset-declaration.html

May God punish these useless APC people , see as dem rush this petition , what of the petition submitted against oshio mo òle? Useless government from the president down to the last person supporting a return of this yeye Government. Rubbish
Re: Break What CJN Told CCB by Nobody: 4:03pm On Jan 13, 2019
One can only imagine the condition under which the Chief justice was pressured to make these statements.

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