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Yes, because you outsmarted the devil in his game. you'd better be with him

MightySparrow:
Yes, because you outsmarted the devil in his game. you'd better be with him

So to out smart the devil, God's worse enemy is a big sin? Thought we were supposed to assist and help him fight off his worse nightmare.

ChiefAzubuike:

So to out smart the devil, God's worse enemy is a big sin? Thought we were supposed to assist and help him fight off his worse nightmare.

haba! you lied to the devil and he didn't know. you coro o, walahi

Lie is lie! Red lie, blue lie, white lie or whatever but as for judgements, it all belongs to God! It's God that will judge you, not me or anyone else on nairaland or beyond.

MightySparrow:
Yes, because you outsmarted the devil in his game. you'd better be with him

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of course God will send you to hell. All lies are the same thing, there is no small or big lie, or good or bad lie.

you could have said the truth, and if they eventually molest your wife, God knows the best. Are you wiser than the same God who watched them rob you? Are you wiser than the same God who watched young girls be molested all the time?

It seems you dont want Gods will to be done in your life, SMH... better as for forgiveness

Don't worry, you will meet father Abraham there. he also lied to king Abimelech that Sarah was his sister so that Abimelech will not kill him Gen 20:1-18

frank317:
of course God will send you to hell. All lies are the same thing, there is no small or big lie, or good or bad lie.

you could have said the truth, and if they eventually molest your wife, God knows the best. Are you wiser than the same God who watched them rob you? Are you wiser than the same God who watched young girls be molested all the time?

It seems you dont want Gods will to be done in your life, SMH... better as for forgiveness

Then why must God expect me to say a truth that will lead to the molestation of a woman he bonded me with? That's wickedness and betrayal.

Hi there.

I am a Christian committed to following the Bible wherever it goes.

This question may be serious or it may just be a game, I don't know. But I answer whatever I can that may be of value to someone seeking to understand the Bible.

There are a few instances in the Bible where lies were told to save lives, especially the lives of believers who were in danger. In each of those cases, the Lord God blessed those who lied.

There were the Hebrew midwives who refused to kill the newborn sons of Hebrew women (Exodus 1:15-21); Rehab of Jericho, a prostitute who lied to protect Hebrew spies who came to gather intelligence on the city (Joshua 2, 6:17, 22-23; Matthew 1:5); the woman of Bahurim who lied to protect David's two spies during Absalom's rebellion (2 Samuel 17:17-21). Only in the last case do we lack information on what God did for them as a result of their goodwill toward His favored king.

It is obvious that such examples are rare in the Bible. This is because such situations where lying is sanctified by God are extremely rare in history. They are tests of faithfulness for those who experience it.

However, it may be necessary in cases like the above to protect one's wife with lying. Just like killing to defend oneself and one's family from criminals or killing in war to destroy enemies who threaten the peace of a nation. These are things the Bible does not prohibit.

ChiefAzubuike:
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Ihedinobi3:
Hi there.

I am a Christian committed to following the Bible wherever it goes.

This question may be serious or it may just be a game, I don't know. But I answer whatever I can that may be of value to someone seeking to understand the Bible.

There are a few instances in the Bible where lies were told to save lives, especially the lives of believers who were in danger. In each of those cases, the Lord God blessed those who lied.

There were the Hebrew midwives who refused to kill the newborn sons of Hebrew women (Exodus 1:15-21); Rehab of Jericho, a prostitute who lied to protect Hebrew spies who came to gather intelligence on the city (Joshua 2, 6:17, 22-23; Matthew 1:5); the woman of Bahurim who lied to protect David's two spies during Absalom's rebellion (2 Samuel 17:17-21). Only in the last case do we lack information on what God did for them as a result of their goodwill toward His favored king.

It is obvious that such examples are rare in the Bible. This is because such situations where lying is sanctified by God are extremely rare in history. They are tests of faithfulness for those who experience it.

However, it may be necessary in cases like the above to protect one's wife with lying. Just like killing to defend oneself and one's family from criminals or killing in war to destroy enemies who threaten the peace of a nation. These are things the Bible does not prohibit.

ChiefAzubuike, this is summarising in a sentence all what Ihedinobi3 has outlined. You wouldnt be indicted for lying, if the lie wouldnt have an undesired harmful effect on your neighbour

Ask for forgiveness. Simple!

ChiefAzubuike:

Then why must God expect me to say a truth that will lead to the molestation of a woman he bonded me with? That's wickedness and betrayal.

Because its his will... Ur obligation is just to say the truth, its his choice to decide if ur wife will be molested or not... And ur duty is to thank God after, molestation or not.

Ihedinobi3:
Hi there.

I am a Christian committed to following the Bible wherever it goes.

This question may be serious or it may just be a game, I don't know. But I answer whatever I can that may be of value to someone seeking to understand the Bible.

There are a few instances in the Bible where lies were told to save lives, especially the lives of believers who were in danger. In each of those cases, the Lord God blessed those who lied.

There were the Hebrew midwives who refused to kill the newborn sons of Hebrew women (Exodus 1:15-21); Rehab of Jericho, a prostitute who lied to protect Hebrew spies who came to gather intelligence on the city (Joshua 2, 6:17, 22-23; Matthew 1:5); the woman of Bahurim who lied to protect David's two spies during Absalom's rebellion (2 Samuel 17:17-21). Only in the last case do we lack information on what God did for them as a result of their goodwill toward His favored king.

It is obvious that such examples are rare in the Bible. This is because such situations where lying is sanctified by God are extremely rare in history. They are tests of faithfulness for those who experience it.

However, it may be necessary in cases like the above to protect one's wife with lying. Just like killing to defend oneself and one's family from criminals or killing in war to destroy enemies who threaten the peace of a nation. These are things the Bible does not prohibit.

Lying is of the devil, how is it necessary to save? Don't be two faced, stick to ur believe. Don't shift to devil's camp out of necessity. Trust in ur God always.

Posts like this made me leave facebook

ChiefAzubuike:
As seen from the internet.

Hell is for those who believe not in Jesus Christ.
It is not necessarily because they are sinners for we all are before Christ. As it written no one is righteous, no not one. All of us like sheep went astray. They will perish because they refuse to realize that they are powerless in keeping the law and hence, needs a saviour.

frank317:


Lying is of the devil, how is it necessary to save? Don't be two faced, stick to ur believe. Don't shift to devil's camp out of necessity. Trust in ur God always.

Do you really want to debate the Bible with me on this? Or are you presuming to redefine the Christian Faith for Christians?

MuttleyLaff:


ChiefAzubuike, this is summarising in a sentence all what Ihedinobi3 has outlined. You wouldnt be indicted for lying, if the lie wouldnt have an undesired harmful effect on your neighbour

This summary is not what I am saying at all. The summary is that the Bible teaches that lying to save the lives of fellow believers is blessed.

Ihedinobi3:

Do you really want to debate the Bible with me on this? Or are you presuming to redefine the Christian Faith for Christians?

Leave that thing... There is no good or bad lie. Devil i s that father of lies. Story borrowing lies from the devil for the sake of ur life.

If the op can lie to save his life from being molested, why would anyone lie to save himself from being caught?

frank317:


Leave that thing... There is no good or bad lie. Devil i s that father of lies. Story borrowing lies from the devil for the sake of ur life.

If the op can lie to save his life from being molested, why would anyone lie to save himself from being caught?

I figured you wouldn't be wanting to debate what the Bible teaches with me. So, you are now telling Christians to ignore the Bible and listen to you? Did you perchance die for us too?

Ihedinobi3:

I figured you wouldn't be wanting to debate what the Bible teaches with me. So, you are now telling Christians to ignore the Bible and listen to you? Did you perchance die for us too?

So u now need a bible verse that says the devil is the father of lies? U don't know ur bible again?

frank317:


So u now need a bible verse that says the devil is the father of lies? U don't know ur bible again?

Good. So it is the Bible you want to debate? Go back to my first post and explain what was happening in all those examples.

Tosinex:
Lie is lie! Red lie, blue lie, white lie or whatever but as for judgements, it all belongs to God! It's God that will judge you, not me or anyone else on nairaland or beyond.

Keep quiet if u were a female do. U think its easy to be raped
And if u are I pray u will be reped one day
Common sense
Well I have second hand sense in case u need

Atewo400:

Keep quiet if u were a female do. U think its easy to be raped
And if u are I pray u will be reped one day
Common sense
Well I have second hand sense in case u need

you only use and give out what you have, so keep using your second hand common sense!!!

bloodofthelamb:
Hell is for those who believe not in Jesus Christ.
It is not necessarily because they are sinners for we all are before Christ. As it written no one is righteous, no not one. All of us like sheep went astray. They will perish because they refuse to realize that they are powerless in keeping the law and hence, needs a saviour.

Me liked.
What you typed summed up there is the classic, dont concerntrate at the pointing finger, but look at what the finger is pointed at. Jesus answereth all things is what the finger is pointing at. Jesus is the answer for all things. The commands of Jesus, the belief in Jesus will get you out of jail free.

MuttleyLaff:
ChiefAzubuike, this is summarising in a sentence all what Ihedinobi3 has outlined. You wouldnt be indicted for lying, if the lie wouldnt have an undesired harmful effect on your neighbour

Ihedinobi3:
This summary is not what I am saying at all. The summary is that the Bible teaches that lying to save the lives of fellow believers is blessed.

Will you please respect and stay within the parameters of that photo? There has been no mention of believers in the photo capture narrative, it was generic, so will require a generic response without introducing "fellow believers"
Please tell and answer these following question plase:
1/ Will you say the bible teaches that, one will be indicted for lying, if the lie wouldnt have or hasnt a harmful effect on your neighbour?
2/ What harmful effect on the armed robbers, is there, when both couple in order to save the wife from being raped, lied that the wife is on her monthly period?
3/ Does the bible not state, be wise as serpents, but harmless as dove?
4/ If they werent "fellow believers", what would you recommend, advise, or expect the couple to do in their circumstance they found themselves in?
5/ Would you advise, the couple tell the truth, then the wife, in a quiet, gentle and submissive manner, roll over on her back and let the armed robbers take their turns, one after the other with her, just like that?

No, God cares about your intention more

PurestBoy:
No, God cares about your intention more

Human intentions are selfish... He only lied because it was his wife. Trust me, if it someone he really does not like, he will definitely remember that lying is a sin

Ihedinobi3:

Good. So it is the Bible you want to debate? Go back to my first post and explain what was happening in all those examples.

Except u want to preach to me how two faced the bible is. I know the bible called the devil the father of ALL lies.

The story of shedrack mishark and abadinego ( pardon my spelling) teaches Christians to be firm with their believe even in the face of adversity.

When peter denied Jesus three times he had to ask for forgiveness. Or do u think Peter was right to have lied that he didn't know Jesus?

If u are in the North and Islamic extremests catches u and ask u if u are a Christian or not, will u deny Christ, knowing it will save ur life?

Ur examples above oy nly shows anyone can pick any part of the bible that suits him at any given period. It shows how two faced the bible is

frank317:


Except u want to preach to me how two faced the bible is. I know the bible called the devil the father of ALL lies.

The story of shedrack mishark and abadinego ( pardon my spelling) teaches Christians to be firm with their believe even in the face of adversity.

When peter denied Jesus three times he had to ask for forgiveness. Or do u think Peter was right to have lied that he didn't know Jesus?

If u are in the North and Islamic extremests catches u and ask u if u are a Christian or not, will u deny Christ, knowing it will save ur life?

Ur examples above oy nly shows anyone can pick any part of the bible that suits him at any given period. It shows how two faced the bible is

It isn't my fault if you have trouble understanding what you read.

MuttleyLaff:

Will you please respect and stay within the parameters of that photo? There has been no mention of believers in the photo capture narrative, it was generic, so will require a generic response without introducing "fellow believers"
Please tell and answer these following question plase:
1/ Will you say the bible teaches that, one will be indicted for lying, if the lie wouldnt have or hasnt a harmful effect on your neighbour?
2/ What harmful effect on the armed robbers, is there, when both couple in order to save the wife from being raped, lied that the wife is on her monthly period?
3/ Does the bible not state, be wise as serpents, but harmless as dove?
4/ If they werent "fellow believers", what would you recommend, advise, or expect the couple to do in their circumstance they found themselves in?
5/ Would you advise, the couple tell the truth, then the wife, in a quiet, gentle and submissive manner, roll over on her back and let the armed robbers take their turns, one after the other with her, just like that?

You are completely free to make your own arguments and conclusions, MuttleyLaff. I have no problems with that. What you are not free to do is to put words in my mouth. I object to that. If your summary attributed to me misrepresents what I said, I will disassociate myself from it without much more than a courteous explanation.

Ihedinobi3:

It isn't my fault if you have trouble understanding what you read.

are u ok? or are u just used to talking rubbish?