Ive been datin this guy for like 2 yrs nw thou we have had upz n'downz, 2010 has been a very wonderful year for us, I have this elderly woman that i pray with and all and i just told her abt my bf and asked to pray for us and the next thng she tells me like some days later is to let go off the relatnnshp, that God doesnt want me in it and all dat, I kept askin her if she actually heard from God or if she just said so because i told her that the boys parents r divorced and she told me that she wont lie to me that God doesnt want me there, This relatnshp is going sweeter by the day and im lovin him more, Ive prayed, cried and fasted and now i dont know wat to do.

Pray to God concerning your worries yourself. Forget about what man says. Submit yourself totally to His will and just thank Him that His will, will be done in your life.

buttie:

Ive been datin this guy for like 2 yrs nw thou we have had upz n'downz, 2010 has been a very wonderful year for us, I have this elderly woman that i pray with and all and i just told her abt my bf and asked to pray for us and the next thng she tells me like some days later is to let go off the relatnnshp, that God doesnt want me in it and all dat, I kept askin her if she actually heard from God or if she just said so because i told her that the boys parents r divorced and she told me that she wont lie to me that God doesnt want me there, This relatnshp is going sweeter by the day and im lovin him more, Ive prayed, cried and fasted and now i dont know wat to do.

   Beware of people, 'christians' who tell you "God told me to tell you" "God spoke to me" etc . . . 9.9 out of 10 times they are lying.

You may benefit from reading this thread from a guy in a similar situation
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-369306.0.html

   No one can tell you what to do. Go to God yourself. Apply wisdom. And if you have peace with your decision and with your partner then why are you worring? why are you crying? and 'fasting'? You're in a beautiful, peaceful relationship that has blessed and edified your life, why would you want to jeopardize that based on the unverifiable and probably untrue claims of a 3rd party? The only person that should tell you who you should marry is YOU. Please dry your eyes and look to God, not man.

If you have the patience, wait on God and let the euphoria settle. You may just be FALLING in love, or you may be in a good thing. But let patience have her perfect work and pray. Until God's peace rules in you, not just anyhow piss like the one that rules on some unbelievers here on nl.

Are you born again? Is he born again?. Go to your pastor if you are. You need to lay hold on your purpose for life, it will determine the choice of man you need.

Joagbaje:

Are you born again? Is he born again?. Go to your pastor if you are. You need to lay hold on your purpose for life, it will determine the choice of man you need.

I really dont want to turn here to an argument . . . but do you even believe at all that a man can have access to the heavenly father without the help of his/her pastor?

The woman kept sayin somethng like " do you want to live a life where i will be the one carryin and solving my family problems" instead of the man

Joagbaje:

Are you born again? Is he born again?. Go to your pastor if you are. You need to lay hold on your purpose for life, it will determine the choice of man you need.

      by far the worst advice.

buttie:

The woman kept sayin somethng like " do you want to live a life where i will be the one carryin and solving my family problems" instead of the man

JeSoul:
Beware of people, 'christians' who tell you "God told me to tell you" "God spoke to me" etc . . . 9.9 out of 10 times they are lying.

No one can tell you what to do. Go to God yourself.

A word is enough for the wise.

Are pple forclosing that no one must seek spiritual advice from M.O.G?

Not at all. But I wont take any as my channel to God.

toba:

Are pple forclosing that no one must seek spiritual advice from M.O.G?

^^what is the motivation for telling her to go to the pastor vs. going herself to God?

1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"

  It is one thing to ask for advice from an elder or another christian - but only as an optional supplement to the main directive of going to God directly yourself.

buttie:

Ive been datin this guy for like 2 yrs nw thou we have had upz n'downz, 2010 has been a very wonderful year for us, I have this elderly woman that i pray with and all and i just told her abt my bf and asked to pray for us and the next thng she tells me like some days later is to let go off the relatnnshp, that God doesnt want me in it and all dat, I kept askin her if she actually heard from God or if she just said so because i told her that the boys parents r divorced and she told me that she wont lie to me that God doesnt want me there, This relatnshp is going sweeter by the day and im lovin him more, Ive prayed, cried and fasted and now i dont know wat to do.

1. are u sexually involved with ur bf? if YES, God definitely does not want you in such a relationship.

2. you suddenly doubt God because what u heard does not sound appeasing. Think twice, because the counsels of God are usually against human will and volition. If she said God approves of ur rel, would u have believed that she heard from God? many times God's answers are usually not as we perceive or expect.

3. She may or may not have heard from God, but `the question is, why are u personally not hearing from God? is this because of the existent of a personal sin? like sex? Think about it.

4. Many times God asks or lays it in our hearts to let go of pleasurable things so as to inherit a better covenant with Him. The case of Daniel and the kings abominable meal, the widow and her last meal and many others.
There is only one sin . . . .it is called disobedience. If God has asked you to let go please do so. . .and tell the gentle man what the situation is. He will understand.

JeSoul:

^^what is the motivation for telling her to go to the pastor vs. going herself to God?

1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"

  It is one thing to ask for advice from an elder or another christian - but only as an optional supplement to the main directive of going to God directly yourself.

Have u tried asking her how matured she is spiritually? Do u think God will ans to just any request?

toba:

Have u tried asking her how matured she is spiritually?

Toba, her level of "spiritual maturity" is completely irrelevant. 1 Tim 2:5 doesn't make any distinction between which level of mature christians can go to Jesus/God directly and who can't.

Do u think God will ans to just any request?

The request in this case is simple, "Lord please direct me". The bible is clear God will answer to all who call on Him out of a sincere heart. That's all that matters.

Let me tell u the point u re missing. If she had intercourse with the guy already,do u think God would reveal anything to her?

toba:

Let me tell u the point u re missing. If she had intercourse with the guy already,do u think God would reveal anything to her?

A resounding YES to that. Please disprove that biblically. There are plenty of saints who committed grave sins yet . . .

Jesoul,

JeSoul:

Toba, her level of "spiritual maturity" is completely irrelevant. 1 Tim 2:5 doesn't make any distinction between which level of mature christians can go to Jesus/God directly and who can't.
The request in this case is simple, "Lord please direct me". The bible is clear God will answer to all who call on Him out of a sincere heart. That's all that matters.

How can God direct, when you already overwhelmed with passion. Some of you are so ignorant of the importance of the pastoral ministry, how come it's in marriage matter people easily claim I was led by SPIRIT. You've not been trained to be led in soul winning or any other spiritual thing but when lust and passion start working , you say I was led to marry,He will soon lead you to marry unbeliever! and soon end in divorce. A pastor knows beyond you. He will ask some questions, he is ordained to lead people into Gods destiny. Why would Paul be counselling the early church over marriage. When they all have equal holy spirit. Don't make light the pastoral ministry. This only proves you need a pastor too .

^thats y many marriages crumble becos they used their intuition whilst lying that the spirit of God directed them

Joagbaje:

Jesoul,

How can God direct, when you already overwhelmed with passion.

  Are you saying God cannot direct someone who is in-love with another? I am living proof that God can. You 'pastors' over-estimate your importance.

Some of you are so ignorant of the importance of the pastoral ministry, how come it's in marriage matter people easily claim I was led by SPIRIT. You've not been trained to be led in soul winning or any other spiritual thing but when lust and passion start working , you say I was led to marry,He will soon lead you to marry unbeliever! and soon end in divorce. A pastor knows beyond you. He will ask some questions, he is ordained to lead people into Gods destiny.

While there is some truth in this, the manner and context in which it is spoken renders it false. A pastors job is to shepherd the flock - he does not control their lives. My personal relationships do not fall under that jurisdiction or even any jurisdiction of his - I answer only to God. Are we not adults? do we need your approval or disproval in the life partner that we choose? why don't we consult you when we go to work? and choose our bosses and companies for us too? and the food we eat at home? and the places we decide to travel to? I repeat, you 'pastors' over-estimate your importance and boundaries.

Why would Paul be counselling the early church over marriage. When they all have equal holy spirit. Don't make light the pastoral ministry.

Paul dropped lines of wisdom yes. Did he instruct prospective couples to surrender themselves for mandatory counselling before they can marry or even court? NO. All he did was simply lay some ground rules and general principles by which we should conduct ourselves in all relationships not just marriage.

This is what you 'pastors' have remixed and modified to mean - you must go for counselling and the pastor must approve before you marry. Thoroughly unbiblical and unbelievably arrogant.

This only proves you need a pastor too.

and I repeat for a third time - you 'pastors' over-estimate your importance. What arrogance.