Martinez39:
So asking someone out is a gender role?

So you don't know When we say some people should be restricted from posting on this forum as it is obvious that many of them... simpletons are far gone in their delusions. So you truly don't know it is your role to ask a woman out. Your backwardness has no place in our society,stop sticking your fat neck out of your cave niche. weak, weaker, weak ass.

Randy100:
Eloquently written but it won't sway me to your side. First of all you brush off my own argument and according to you they are logical fallacies. Let it be know to you that Man is an animal, and we are referred as higher animals. The only difference between us and those lower animals is because of our technological advancement. I strongly disagree with you when you said that men and women could define their roles. Nature gives us our role in the society, women were given the role of pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding of the baby and nature provided the basic body part for this function, you can't tell a man to fill this role because nature didn't favour a man to do such. Secondly, you claimed that no woman should think about what men think about them, my brother you are wrong again. We all live to impress the opposite sex so we should be worried about what they think about you. Women rub mary-k, design their hairs, wear fine cloths. Why do they do that? To impress the guys and vice versa for the guys too. Thirdly, it is define by our culture that it is the man who goes to look for a woman and when he finds, he calls his kinsmen and they all go to the girls place and seek for her hand in marriage. I hope you will allow a girl to come and ask your hand in marriage after all to you we define our role in the society . Finally, we are Africans not Europeans. It won't work here at least for now maybe in the year 3000.

I like you. Even though you disagree, you still argue maturely. Obviously man is an animal but he is not like other animals. I never said that there are not biological differences between both sexes. The women's role of pregnancy, breast feeding and childbirth are biological differences and it doesn't in any way stop them for asking a man out, does it? These biological differences also doesn't mean that women can't define their roles and determine their destinies. While there are biological differences between both sexes, there are a lot of aspects where both sexes can embrace equality and wooing a spouse is one of those aspects.

When I said women shouldn't care about what boys think, I meant women should be themselves and define themselves. They shouldn't put themselves under pressure to please everyone. A life lived trying to please everyone is a miserable one. Would you try to please all ladies? Are you trying to indirectly imply that if women be themselves and defined themselves rather than trying to please boys they would find at least one person interested in them? If no then what are you telling me?

@bold
Lol. Thanks for this admission. This is what I said in my previous post. No one is obliged to follow traditional rules just as no one is obliged to follow any religion.

@red
Of course, there is no shame in that. Women too are human beings with needs and desires. If a girl proposes to me and I like her, I will definitely marry her as long as she if wife material. A woman proposing to me doesn't make less of a man or makes me miserable. That male ego of being the one to ask a woman out is something society gave you. You were not born with it.

@blue
I know that in this part of the world, many are strongly bound to their traditions and that's why I made the this thread. The fact that you admit that things may change in many years to come shows that which gender woos a spouse is not naturally given. Anyway, in your defence, you did point out the role of tradition in determining who woos a spouse.

I won't even gv signals let alone....approaching,aw suppress d feeling....if forever sef....I cannur let one guy tag me as desperate n take advantage of d so called feelings

TimiRume:
So you don't know When we say some people should be restricted from posting on this forum as it is obvious that many of them... simpletons are far gone in their delusions. So you truly don't know it is your role to ask a woman out. Your backwardness has no place in our society,stop sticking your fat neck out of your cave niche. weak, weaker, weak ass.

Tah! That technique of shaming the supposed ignorance of the opponent rather than addressing his/her point. Now, I dare you to answer the following :

1) What objectively makes wooing a spouse a gender role?
2) How does asking someone out automatically gives you position of authority in the relationship?
3) How does a woman asking you out makes you less of a man?
4) Which authority made it so that the man must be the one to woo a woman?
5) Aren't traditions man made?
6) is anyone obliged to follow tradition?

Answer these set of questions and let's see who speaks without reasoning. Beta cuck, see his head like "so you don't know it's your job to ask a woman out." Did your father give me the job? Or perhaps your grandpa is the authority that determined that boys must always ask girls out and it's forbidden for girls to ask boys out. Try answering my questions. A beta testes desperately trying to label an alpha like me a beta male so he can feel good about himself. I am sorry, I won't give you that safety in numbers that you are looking for. Pussylain jar.

Stargurl20:
I won't even gv signals let alone....approaching,aw suppress d feeling....if forever sef....I cannur let one guy tag me as desperate n take advantage of d so called feelings.

Lol. Even desperate guys are taken advantage of too. Though I can't speak for other guys, I would say a girl is to be seen as desperate if she keeps on persisting frequently despite the guy saying "no" over and over. Once someone says "no," it's advised to move on or else you give room of be taken advantage of.

kingkuntaval:


Which Joseph?
Joseph Yobo abi Joseph Benjamin?

Joseph un-Gigolo

khiaa:


Randy, the woman is the one who does the choosing, men do the chasing. A guy can approach 10 girls in 15 minutes and only get the names of 3 girls and a girl can approach 10 guys in 15 minutes and get the names, numbers, and dates with all of them, at the end of the day the woman holds the cards.

There is nothing wrong with a woman approaching a man but telling him you have feelings and is ready to mingle is not only corny but too forward, it opens the door for him to think that you are desperate and horney. To the ladies, approach the man that your heart desires provided that he is single but be smooth in your approach and conversation, smile a lot, give him a nice compliment, make him feel comfortable with you, flirt with him, also make him feel that you are doing him a huge favor by giving him some of your time. Just be nice and mind your manners.

If he appreciates you admiring him he will respect your confidence in the approach, of course I'm speaking about interactions between a man and a woman but if you are approaching immature boys, well you know what to expect.

you are very funny, I have approached approximately 2thousand ladies, I bet you haven't even approached any guy before. So who holds the card? Be deceiving yourself. Untill you start proposing to men and asking their hand in marriage, I will take your statement very serious but now you are just a comedian. On the issue of a girl approaching a guy, their is nothing like making a guy comfortable, by telling me your feeling you are putting me in an uncomfortable situation and I am happy that you know that most guys will see it as a desperate move. A guy who likes you will understand your signal and makes the necessary move by being the one to do the wooing.

Randy100:
you are very funny, I have approached approximately 2thousand ladies, I bet you haven't even approached any guy before. So who holds the card? Be deceiving yourself. Untill you start proposing to men and asking their hand in marriage, I will take your statement very serious but now you are just a comedian. On the issue of a girl approaching a guy, their is nothing like making a guy comfortable, by telling me your feeling you are putting me in an uncomfortable situation and I am happy that you know that most guys will see it as a desperate move. A guy who likes you will understand your signal and makes the necessary move by being the one to do the wooing.

What the heck, nobody is talking about proposing or marriage this is a conversation about a woman approaching a man in order to get to know him but I can see that you are too immature to understand my perspective.

Martinez39:
I like you. Even though you disagree, you still argue maturely. Obviously man is an animal but he is not like other animals. I never said that there are not biological differences between both sexes. The women's role of pregnancy, breast feeding and childbirth are biological differences and it doesn't in any way stop them for asking a man out, does it? These biological differences also doesn't mean that women can't define their roles and determine their destinies. While there are biological differences between both sexes, there are a lot of aspects where both sexes can embrace equality and wooing a spouse is one of those aspects.

When I said women shouldn't care about what boys think, I meant women should be themselves and define themselves. They shouldn't put themselves under pressure to please everyone. A life lived trying to please everyone is a miserable one. Would you try to please all ladies? Are you trying to indirectly imply that if women be themselves and defined themselves rather than trying to please boys they would find at least one person interested in them? If no then what are you telling me?

@bold
Lol. Thanks for this admission. This is what I said in my previous post. No one is obliged to follow traditional rules just as no one is obliged to follow any religion.

@red
Of course, there is no shame in that. Women too are human beings with needs and desires. If a girl proposes to me and I like her, I will definitely marry her as long as she if wife material. A woman proposing to me doesn't make less of a man or makes me miserable. That male ego of being the one to ask a woman out is something society gave you. You were not born with it.

@blue
I know that in this part of the world, many are strongly bound to their traditions and that's why I made the this thread. The fact that you admit that things may change in many years to come shows that which gender woos a spouse is not naturally given. Anyway, in your defence, you did point out the role of tradition in determining who woos a spouse.

To put this argument to rest, I know I won't be comfortable with a girl approaching me to tell me how she feels about me and I know I am speaking the mind of at least 99percent of the guys leaving the remainin 1percent to guys like you which is infinitesimal. You may call it ego or pride, it is what makes us men. We tell this stories when we gather. Finally, every mallam with his kettle. Obrigado for the time.

khiaa:


What the heck, nobody is talking about proposing or marriage this is a conversation about a woman approaching a man in order to get to know him but I can see that you are too immature to understand my perspective.

Whatever, I am just pointing to you that women don't hold the card as you allege in your statement. I was merely pointing out the restriction that the society places on women and equally countering you statement of women making their choices. On the issue of approaching, I think you have addressed that and I agree with you that ladies who approaches guys are seen as desperate.

Randy100:
To put this argument to rest, I know I won't be comfortable with a girl approaching me to tell me how she feels about me and I know I am speaking the mind of at least 99percent of the guys leaving the remainin 1percent to guys like you which is infinitesimal. You may call it ego or pride, it is what makes us men. We tell this stories when we gather. Finally, every mallam with his kettle. Obrigado for the time.

what if she came over to you and just had a decent chat with you... and before she leaves, she asks you out for a drink or lunch, on her of course if you found her presentable and maybe your type, wouldn't you accept If you click on that date then you guys get to know each other and if not then no harm done...

Randy100:
To put this argument to rest, I know I won't be comfortable with a girl approaching me to tell me how she feels about me and I know I am speaking the mind of at least 99percent of the guys leaving the remainin 1percent to guys like you which is infinitesimal. You may call it ego or pride, it is what makes us men. We tell this stories when we gather. Finally, every mallam with his kettle. Obrigado for the time.

Well, if a girl approaching you makes you uncomfortable, no problem. If you think approaching a woman makes you a man, no problem. All I am just saying is that a girl approaching you should make you uncomfortable and it should not be a bad thing. Also, I am arguing that a girl approaching you doesn't make you less of a man and that so called male pride is what society gave men not that men were born with it. Shikena.

Guest007:


what if she came over to you and just had a decent chat with you... and before she leaves, she asks you out for a drink or lunch, on her of course if you found her presentable and maybe your type, wouldn't you accept If you click on that date then you guys get to know each other and if not then no harm done...

Asking me for a lunch or drink could be interpreted by me as a signal or sign that she likes me. Asking for relationship should be left for me to do. After our drinking or eating, if I like her I would ask her out. I am just saying that I won't be comfortable if she ask me out.

TimiRume:
So you don't know When we say some people should be restricted from posting on this forum as it is obvious that many of them... simpletons are far gone in their delusions. So you truly don't know it is your role to ask a woman out. Your backwardness has no place in our society,stop sticking your fat neck out of your cave niche. weak, weaker, weak ass.

not anymore. Things change. That's why women now have rights that equal your own. Keep up with the times

ubunja:
Not anymore. Things change. That's why women now have rights that equal your own. Keep up with the times

Thanks jare. Don't mind that beta dude. TimiRume is desperately hunting for my downfall in this argument so that he can label me a beta male.

Randy100:
Asking me for a lunch or drink could be interpreted by me as a signal or sign that she likes me. Asking for relationship should be left for me to do. After our drinking or eating, if I like her I would ask her out. I am just saying that I won't be comfortable if she ask me out.

Hmmm, ok, I understand better, thanks

Randy100:
Whatever, I am just pointing to you that women don't hold the card as you allege in your statement. I was merely pointing out the restriction that the society places on women and equally countering you statement of women making their choices. On the issue of approaching, I think you have addressed that and I agree with you that ladies who approaches guys are seen as desperate.

I never said that a lady approaching a guy is seen as desperate, what I said is a quote from another postér which is *I approach a guy and tell him that I have feelings and I am ready to mingle*. The verbiage sounds corny, desperate and horney to me not the actual approach. Maybe your culture is the problem, it seems Nigeria hasn't progressed and you are still living in the days of old.

Martinez39:
Lol. Seriously, can you speak for all girls? Don't you know some boys too can't handle rejection? Naturally, everyone, both boys and girls, appreciate the idea of feeling special. It takes maturity to be able to handle rejection.

By the way, Potifah's wife didn't exist. The bible is a book of fairytales, ridiculous garbages and falsehoods with no sound basis in reality. It's not a smart thing to use the bible to inform yourself about reality.

just say u want to spit and thrash the scriptures
U are not ready to make any point in your talks!!

Martinez39:
1. A girl approaching you doesn't make you less of a man
2. and that so called male pride is what society gave men not that men were born with it

Hmm...
True, it might not make you less of a man(except your beliefs are based on old traditions), but it'll make that woman less of who she was before your eyes. I don't know how you wanna put/do it, you won't value her as you did when you first got attracted 2 her
You see, man generally love chasing women, this might be where the ego is present.
No matter how hard it might be, we enjoy chasing women better than they coming to us. Except you just wanna be using them anyhow.
So, they chasing us will be sweet n fun for a short while but later on we start to disvalue her.
Do note this, "the sperm chases the egg, not the other way around". This alone tells alot about what is right
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2. Its actually innate for man. Look at most of the animals for instance, did society teach them that?
Its all simply INSTINCT

It is really a funny post. I think girls are always be attractive to the man. They wait for a signal to carry on their relation and start new things. It is the nature of human beings to stay curious for new things. We all want to have new, new, and new things! You need to control your bad intentions.

AmazonTopaz:
In this part of the world.It is usually men that do the toasting.
Men are encouraged to do such and if a lady approaches a guy some would claim that she is desperate or has a low self esteem which is not entirely true.

OP,I agree with you ladies should also approach guys.Signal is not enough.If you like a guy do not wait for him to tell you first you tell him be genuine to yourself.Personally,I have approached a guy before.
One of the first things I told a guy I approached was that I had feelings and was ready to mingle .

To me, that only shows you are very mature.

I don't see anything wrong for a lady to approach a guy.

As a girl there are way you can tell a guy you like him without being too foward that's if you have a great sense of humor but 9ja girls hmm make i no talk.

Stargurl20:
I won't even gv signals let alone....approaching,aw suppress d feeling....if forever sef....I cannur let one guy tag me as desperate n take advantage of d so called feelings

Because that's what females do?