lexy2014:



Onnoghen didn't fully declare his assets. Kemi adeosun forged her NYSC so she could b comnmisioner& later minister. Adebayo Shittu who doesn't have NYSC certificate is still a serving minister under buhari. Y has buhari not sacked him or is he waiting 4 his successor 2do it?

D legality of buhari prosecuting Onnoghen isnt what i asked u. D fact that buhari won't b there forever isn't in dispute. What is in dispute is y is he keen on fighting d judiciary for corruption when members of d executive were he supervises have one stain or d other just like onnoghen? According 2u, d reason y buhari cant prosecute everybody is because "THE SCOPE IS WIDE". Once again, which would b easier 4d president, prosecuting his own people in d executive or prosecuting members of d judiciary? Isn't buhari widening d scope himself by leaving members of d executive & chasing after d judiciary?

Yes the scope of corrupt people and cases to deal with is wide both in the judiciary, executives, legislature, private sectors etc all can not be tackled at once. The president deciedes which case is of top priority to deal with, in this situation Onnoghen's case is of top priority to the Government. If you like cry persecution but the fact remains Onnonghen has a case to answer. If you don't want to be persecuted stay clean.

Naajjii:

Yes the scope of corrupt people and cases to deal with is wide both in the judiciary, executives, legislature, private sectors etc all can not be tackled at once. The president deciedes which case is of top priority to deal with, in this situation Onnoghen's case is of top priority to the Government. If you like cry persecution but the fact remains Onnonghen has a case to answer. If you don't want to be persecuted stay clean.

That is y I asked u which would have been easier to handle, would it b d cases involving members of d judiciary or d ones involving members of d executive? Is it d presidents duty tp treat cases of misdeamenour in d judiciary? I also asked is it because d wide scope that Adebayo Shittu is still serving as a minister?

lexy2014:


That is y I asked u which would have been easier to handle, would it b d cases involving members of d judiciary or d ones involving members of d executive? Is it d presidents duty tp treat cases of misdeamenour in d judiciary? I also asked is it because d wide scope that Adebayo Shittu is still serving as a minister?

Onnoghen's case is the easiest to handle and the President has decieded to handle it with Onnonghen's suspension. We are in full support, what is left for you and your cohort who think otherwise is to take action.

Naajjii:

Onnoghen's case is the easiest to handle and the President has decieded to handle it with Onnonghen's suspension. We are in full support, what is left for your cohort who think otherwise is to take action.

Whether u are in support or whether onnoghen is my cohort isn't d issue. Adebayo Shittu doesn't have NYSC. Onnoghen didn't fully disclose his assets. Shittu is in d executive & d president sees him at least once every week. Onnoghen is d head of d judiciary which is independent of d executive& barely sees d president. Buhari has unlimited supervisory powers over Shittu but doesn't have same over onnoghen. Y has d president not suspended Shittu up till now? If d judiciary isn't responsible 2d president but his ministers are, how's it easier 4d president to leave those who he is responsible & begin chasing after those he isn't responsible based on ur suggestion that d scope of prosecution is small?

lexy2014:


Whether u are in support or whether onnoghen is my cohort isn't d issue. Adebayo Shittu doesn't have NYSC. Onnoghen didn't fully disclose his assets. Shittu is in d executive & d president sees him at least once every week. Onnoghen is d head of d judiciary which is independent of d executive& barely sees d president. Buhari has unlimited supervisory powers over Shittu but doesn't have same over onnoghen. Y has d president not suspended Shittu up till now? If d judiciary isn't responsible 2d president but his ministers are, how's it easier 4d president to leave those who he is responsible & begin chasing after those he isn't responsible based on ur suggestion that d scope of prosecution is small?

Then go to court or go and mobilize your co-corruption supporters to undo the president's decision or you wait till 2023 after next level dispensation.

Naajjii:

Then go to court or go and mobilize your co-corruption supporters to undo the president's decision or you wait till 2023 after next level dispensation.

So funny& so typical. Anyone who doesn't agree with buharis actions is corrupt even when u who is supporting & isn't corrupt can't defend buharis actions with any facts or reason. D discussion isn't about going 2 court.

Let me take u 2d genesis of our discussion. In ur opinion, d reason y those around d president, especially those in d judiciary can't b probed is because d scope is large. D question which u have failed 2 answer is that, if d scope is large, y does d president not start by probing those in d executive first considering d fact that there are constitutional hindrances associated with that? Y would he leave d easy battle & start running after d judiciary were there are several constitutional hurdles he has to cross b4 he gets any results? For instance, Adebayo Shittu doesn't have NYSC but he still a serving minister which is against d law. Y has buhari not suspended him but he is now running after onnoghen when there are several constitutional hurdles to cross in disciplining him?

lexy2014:



So funny& so typical. Anyone who doesn't agree with buharis actions is corrupt even when u who is supporting & isn't corrupt can't defend buharis actions with any facts or reason. D discussion isn't about going 2 court.

Let me take u 2d genesis of our discussion. In ur opinion, d reason y those around d president, especially those in d judiciary can't b probed is because d scope is large. D question which u have failed 2 answer is that, if d scope is large, y does d president not start by probing those in d executive first considering d fact that there are constitutional hindrances associated with that? Y would he leave d easy battle & start running after d judiciary were there are several constitutional hurdles he has to cross b4 he gets any results? For instance, Adebayo Shittu doesn't have NYSC but he still a serving minister which is against d law. Y has buhari not suspended him but he is now running after onnoghen when there are several constitutional hurdles to cross in disciplining him?

Anybody supporting Onnoghen's situation where he clearly admitted that he forgot to declare about $3m, such person is corrupt minded as far as we honest Nigerians and our brothers in the next level team are concerned. we are 100 % for the President.Buhari supporters are very passionate about him , natural love and we work legit to survive and we pay our taxes .You guys were used to sharing money back in the days today no more room for sharing money and that becomes a problem.You people looking for excuses to attack the President's good intentions. Sorry you are going to have to wait for another 4years(2023). By that time enough cleansing would have been done by PMB.

Naajjii:

Anybody supporting Onnoghen's situation where he clearly admitted that he forgot to declare about $3m, such person is corrupt minded as far as we honest Nigerians and our brothers in the next level team are concerned. we are 100 % for the President.Buhari supporters are very passionate about him , natural love and we work legit to survive and we pay our taxes .You guys were used to sharing money back in the days today no more room for sharing money and that becomes a problem.You people looking for excuses to attack the President's good intentions. Sorry you are going to have to wait for another 4years(2023). By that time enough cleansing would have been done by PMB.

U have clearly deviated from d issue. No one is asking u about election& onnoghen is not contesting against d buhari. We are talking about constitutional issues not sentimental issues. Let me take u back once again. According 2u, d reason y buhari has been unable 2 probe those close 2 him thus far is because d scope of such probe& prosecution is large. D question which I have asking which u have failed to answer is y would d president fail to at least suspend his own minister who doesn't have NYSC certificate but is eager to suspend d CJN? Bearing in mind that d judiciary has its own way of dealing with it's erring members of which d president has no constitutional powers in that regard. But d minister of communication is a member of d executive & directly under d supervision of d president. If d president can suspend d CJN without recourse 2d constitutional procedures, y can't he suspend his minister, a member of d executive?

lexy2014:


U have clearly deviated from d issue. No one is asking u about election& onnoghen is not contesting against d buhari. We are talking about constitutional issues not sentimental issues. Let me take u back once again. According 2u, d reason y buhari has been unable 2 probe those close 2 him thus far is because d scope of such probe& prosecution is large. D question which I have asking which u have failed to answer is y would d president fail to at least suspend his own minister who doesn't have NYSC certificate but is eager to suspend d CJN? Bearing in mind that d judiciary has its own way of dealing with it's erring members of which d president has no constitutional powers in that regard. But d minister of communication is a member of d executive & directly under d supervision of d president. If d president can suspend d CJN without recourse 2d constitutional procedures, y can't he suspend his minister, a member of d executive?

Yes the President decieded to deal with Onnonghen first and we are in support. Is kemi Adeosun and Bachir Lawal still in Government? Shittu never forged a certificate .But Onnonghen did not disclose some funds to CCB as required and the presidency took action in line with the law. If you dont like it that way you to go to court. We have zero tolerance for corrupt people.

Naajjii:

Yes the President decieded to deal with Onnonghen first and we are in support. Is kemi Adeosun and Bachir Lawal still in Government? Shittu never forged a certificate .But Onnonghen did not disclose some funds to CCB as required and the presidency took action in line with the law. If you dont like it that way you to go to court. We have zero tolerance for corrupt people.

I didn't ask u not 2 support d president. Am asking u 2b informed. Were is kemi? Y was she allowed to leave d country? Was she tried 4 forgery? Aren't u aware that d presidency did all it could to cover up d issue? Was kemi suspended just like onnoghen? Y was a person who forged her certificate allowed 2 leave Nigeria & d person who didn't fully declare his assets put on trial? Babachir u are talking about wasn't it as a result of public pressure that made him leave his office? Was d president willing to offload him or suspend him? Regarding Adebayo Shittu, is he qualified constitutionally to serve as a minister without NYSC? because he didn't forge does that mean he can b a minister without going 4 youth service? Y has buhari not suspended him? Is he waiting 4 his successor 2do that?

Based on d principle of separation of powers& d fact that u claim that "d scope is large", which is easier, suspending Shittu who didn't serve or suspending onnoghen who didn't declare his assets? Based on d principle of seperation of powers& d fact that u claim that "d scope is large", which is easier? mobilising DSS to go& arrest judges in their homes in port Harcourt or dealing with those who are in d executive who have been accused of corruption?

lexy2014:


I didn't ask u not 2 support d president. Am asking u 2b informed. Were is kemi? Y was she allowed to leave d country? Was she tried 4 forgery? Aren't u aware that d presidency did all it could to cover up d issue? Was kemi suspended just like onnoghen? Y was a person who forged her certificate allowed 2 leave Nigeria & d person who didn't fully declare his assets put on trial? Babachir u are talking about wasn't it as a result of public pressure that made him leave his office? Was d president willing to offload him or suspend him? Regarding Adebayo Shittu, is he qualified constitutionally to serve as a minister without NYSC? because he didn't forge does that mean he can b a minister without going 4 youth service? Y has buhari not suspended him? Is he waiting 4 his successor 2do that?

Based on d principle of separation of powers& d fact that u claim that "d scope is large", which is easier, suspending Shittu who didn't serve or suspending onnoghen who didn't declare his assets? Based on d principle of seperation of powers& d fact that u claim that "d scope is large", which is easier? mobilising DSS to go& arrest judges in their homes in port Harcourt or dealing with those who are in d executive who have been accused of corruption?

Suspending Onnonghen is the easiest and top priority to the President in his anti corruption drive and he has done just that. And we supported him fully. Anyone corrupt minded person that got issue with that should go to court or go and die.

Naajjii:

Suspending Onnonghen is the easiest and top priority to the President in his anti corruption drive and he has done just that. And we supported him fully. Anyone corrupt minded person that got issue with that should go to court or go and die.

U already getting emotional. Don't worry nobody will cos of what they believe in. Y is suspending onnoghen easier than suspending Shittu? Y is putting onnoghen on trial than allowing kemi adeosun to escape prosecution? Isn't it d same corruption when u allow someone without NYSC to still remain as a minister? Isn't it corruption when u allow someone who committed forgery very similar to partial asset declararation to escape without prosecution? Pls how's it easier leaving members of d executive to go free& then going after d judiciary which is separate& independent of d executive?

lexy2014:


U already getting emotional. Don't worry nobody will cos of what they believe in. Y is suspending onnoghen easier than suspending Shittu? Y is putting onnoghen on trial than allowing kemi adeosun to escape prosecution? Isn't it d same corruption when u allow someone without NYSC to still remain as a minister? Isn't it corruption when u allow someone who committed forgery very similar to partial asset declararation to escape without prosecution? Pls how's it easier leaving members of d executive to go free& then going after d judiciary which is separate& independent of d executive?

Getting emotional for you

Naajjii:

Getting emotional for you an IPOB.

When u say people should go& die cos they don't c things ur way, shows u being emotional. When u resort 2 name calling like IPOB, is getting emotional. That's I told u earlier that it is typical from u guys in APC. Once someone offers contrary opinion especially opinion that exposes buharis frailties, u guys tag those people corrupt, IPOB or wailers. U don't need that. Its when u run out of things 2 say, that's when u resort 2 name calling. Communicate more with ur intellect not by tagging or calling people names.

These are d issues:

Isn't it d same corruption when u allow someone without NYSC to still remain as a minister? Isn't it corruption when u allow someone who committed forgery very similar to partial asset declararation to escape without prosecution? Pls how's it easier leaving members of d executive to go free& then going after d judiciary which is separate& independent of d executive?

lexy2014:


When u say people should go& die cos they don't c things ur way, shows u being emotional. When u resort 2 name calling like IPOB, is getting emotional. That's I told u earlier that it is typical from u guys in APC. Once someone offers contrary opinion especially opinion that exposes buharis frailties, u guys tag those people corrupt, IPOB or wailers. U don't need that. Its when u run out of things 2 say, that's when u resort 2 name calling. Communicate more with ur intellect not by tagging or calling people names

Any body against the fight currently being wagged against corruption by president Buhari , is a wailer, a corruption agent, people used to share the money in the past, lazy ass people. I guarantee you are one of the above. Am proud Buharist no apologies and we are proud for the successes recorded so far and he will do more In the next level. He will fish out lot of people who go the Onnoghen's way.

Naajjii:

Any body against the fight currently being wagged against corruption by president Buhari , is a wailer, an IPOB, a corruption agent, people used to share the money in the past, lazy ass people. I guarantee you are one of the above. Am proud Buharist no apologies and we are proud for the successes recorded so far and he will do more In the next level. He will fish out lot of people who go the Onnoghen's way.

No one is against d fight against corruption. What people are against is d lopsided fight against corruption were those who are close 2d president are spared but those who aren't in d presidents circle of friends are chased all over d place. So ur inability to adequately defend what u call buharis fight against corruption, is y u resort to name calling. If u can defend what u say is right, there will b no need to call people names. U will simply dish out d truth backed up with facts.

If buhari is fighting corruption, then pls answer d following questions:

Isn't it d same corruption when u allow someone without NYSC to still remain as a minister? Isn't it corruption when u allow someone who committed forgery very similar to partial asset declararation to escape without prosecution? Pls how's it easier leaving members of d executive to go free& then going after d judiciary which is separate& independent of d executive?

lexy2014:


No one is against d fight against corruption. What people are against is d lopsided fight against corruption were those who are close 2d president are spared but those who aren't in d presidents circle of friends are chased all over d place. So ur inability to adequately defend what u call buharis fight against corruption, is y u resort to name calling. If u can defend what u say is right, there will b no need to call people names. U will simply dish out d truth backed up with facts.

If buhari is fighting corruption, then pls answer d following questions:

Isn't it d same corruption when u allow someone without NYSC to still remain as a minister? Isn't it corruption when u allow someone who committed forgery very similar to partial asset declararation to escape without prosecution? Pls how's it easier leaving members of d executive to go free& then going after d judiciary which is separate& independent of d executive?

It seems you dont appreciate the power and influences judges wield against anti corruption drive of mr President. A single fraudulent court declaration can stall the anti corruption progress.If you understand that then your question why the president choose to tackle the judiciary first would have been self explained .
Whether the President is lopsided or not is not our business all we know is people being made to face the wrath of the law actually committed offence in the first instance. Next time a new government comes in 2023 let then go after shittu or kemi. Our president is on point in his efforts to Massacre that monster called corruption. But on the side wailers will also get busy wailing. We got no problem with wailers wailing as it's allowed in democracy and our president appreciate that.

Naajjii:

It seems you dont appreciate the power and influences judges wield against anti corruption drive of mr President. A single fraudulent court declaration can stall the anti corruption progress.If you understand that then your question why the president choose to tackle the judiciary first would have been self explained .
Whether the President is lopsided or not is not our business all we know is people being made to face the wrath of the law actually committed offence in the first instance. Next time a new government comes in 2023 let then go after shittu or kemi. Our president is on point in his efforts to Massacre that monster called corruption. But on the side wailers will also get busy wailing. We got no problem with wailers wailing as it's allowed in democracy and our president appreciate that.

If u saying we should wait 4 buharis successors b4 kemi& Shittu are tried, then we all can as well wait 4 buharis successors b4 onnoghen is tried. If judges are giving judgements that are fraudulent, is it d job of d president to discipline erring judges? What are d constitutional procedures meant 2 deal with cases of judges who giving fraudulent judgements?

Once again, following ur line of thought, that d "the scope of large", y would he leave his own people in d executive who u also agree are corrupt? After all, they say charity begins at home? If "the scope is large", y not use comparative advantage to handle issues were u have greater influence instead of fighting another arm of govt were constitutionally u don't have powers?

Y has d president not massacred d corruption in d executive? Is certificate forgery not corruption? Is allowing Shittu to continue as a minister despite not serving not corruption?

lexy2014:


If u saying we should wait 4 buharis successors b4 kemi& Shittu are tried, then we all can as well wait 4 buharis successors b4 onnoghen is tried. If judges are giving judgements that are fraudulent, is it d job of d president to discipline erring judges? What are d constitutional procedures meant 2 deal with cases of judges who giving fraudulent judgements?

Once again, following ur line of thought, that d "the scope of large", y would he leave his own people in d executive who u also agree are corrupt? After all, they say charity begins at home? If "the scope is large", y not use comparative advantage to handle issues were u have greater influence instead of fighting another arm of govt were constitutionally u don't have powers?

Y has d president not massacred d corruption in d executive? Is certificate forgery not corruption? Is allowing Shittu to continue as a minister despite not serving not corruption?

Well you are the one complaining am enjoying myself with what the President is doing so glad Onnonghen is gone .As far as we are concerned we got the President's back. Do whatever suits you. You can keep wailing or you can repent and join us in the next level team.

Naajjii:

Well you are the one complaining am enjoying myself with what the President is doing so glad Onnonghen is gone .As far as we are concerned we got the President's back. Do whatever suits you. You can keep wailing or you can repent and join us in the next level team.

d constitution supersedes d president& that's were my loyalty is not in a man. There's a difference between standing by d constitution, complaining & backing d president. Rejoicing over onnoghen is like rejoicing over Shagaris removal in 1983. If u haven't had time with d constitution, then I suggest u 2do that. Understanding d constitution is were d true repentance is. When u have done that, then u can take d gospel of d constitution 2 ur folks in APC. Am doing what suits me i.e. helping u c d light that d constitution provides.

So try & give some insight on this:

Following ur line of thought, that d "the scope of large", y would buhari leave his own people in d executive who u also agree are corrupt? After all, they say charity begins at home? If "the scope is large", y not use comparative advantage to handle issues were u have greater influence instead of fighting another arm of govt were constitutionally u don't have powers?

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See money when we dey find only $10,000 dollars we no see for how many years of huzzle, Oluwa help me oooh