shadeyinka:

I can't but marvel at your conclusion.

You started with your own definition of Believe as Blind Faith. Now you use the words adequate preparation and indices.

If you are not deliberately, misinforming, what are you doing?

As per man created 3000gods, It's just your opinion and everyone has the right to think what he wants.

Keep using a ruler to measure the voltage of electricity: you'll get appropriate results after millions of years when the ruler would have evolved to have the capability.

Moreover, who argues day in day out if the Father Christmas came from the North Pole? Except atheists: if you want to be lost, it's your choice, why become an evangelistic apostle of Satan!?

beatmonster:


There is sth called context. That's what started this.

I believe I will pass the exam!Does it mean that I have no evidence / fact backup to make the statement?

For example if I say "I believe Trump is going to win his reelection."

"Believe" in this context means hope/optimism. It is based on how well he has performed since he took office.

This is entirely different with belief in God/gods. Here you are saying that a being/some beings exist without proof but based on faith.

Stop mixing things up.

Evangelistic Apostle of Satan?

Well, Satan doesn't exist. There is no proof to support it does.

beatmonster:


Why do you believe in God without proof?

shadeyinka:

You are the one creating things up by deliberately misinforming by your misleading definition. I haven't even mentioned "Faith".

If you are completely dead spiritually and you cannot "know" God, then it's you that have the problem: stop generalising.

And you bear all the tale signs of "infection" :

incogni2o:


You are kinda naive cos you beleive your parents came together to procreate and give birth to you without proof.

Proof itself is a Beleive of some sort

Kindly list evidences your Father and Mother are your Real Parents.

Please think deeply before answering me.

My point at the end is that you choosr to Ignore Proof.

I have a lot of proof that God is

beatmonster:


Apart from physical appearances and attributes, there is sth called DNA test Oga.

Since you have a lot of proofs, tell me just one of them

beatmonster:


I give up

otiwisdom:

Give me three reasons why you don't believe that God exist .

incogni2o:


I asked you about your unquestionable proof personally.

Don't take me as naive Mr Intellectual

Are physical evidences and attributes unquestionable?

I just had a Baby Girl and she doesnt look like me or my wife (at least, convincingly).

Is DNA test a proof without a [b]beleive and trust in its creators which you've never met? [/b]

You see the reason why I said Think Deeply

Before I give you a single proof of His Being.

I demand you define our basis of what is called PROOF.

Begin by telling me how you BELEIVED your Parents aren't imposters.

johnydon22:

The bible comes with such claims and frankly fails to establish enough awe to give credence to such outrageous claim.

beatmonster:


Do I need to meet the creator(s) of DNA test before I trust it?

If you think DNA test is inaccurate or doesn't work come up with ur findings and challenge it let's see.

you haven't given me one single proof yet you have many of them. Are you stringy?

LordReed:


1. There is no evidence such a being exists

2. There is no way to test for such a being.

3. Continuously phenomena in our universe are being explained by natural processes ergo a god has not been required to explain anything thus far and is essentially useless.

johnydon22:
If it is faith, how can proof be part of it my guy?

CAPSLOCKED:


OH..
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT "I FEEL HIM IN MY HEART, AND I GET THINGS WHEN I PRAY" WAS ENOUGH QUALITY EVIDENCE.

UceeGod:


Simply FAITH before seeing PROOF. That's how it works.
Faith is a spiritual function that's beyond our human comprehension and it's just impossible to see or experience spiritual realities without FAITH.

LordReed:


If it is beyond your comprehension then how do you know what it is?

beatmonster:


Why do you believe in God without proof?

shadeyinka:

If God was a physical description, then you have a point. Extraordinary claims would require extraordinary physical evidence.

[b]Now, since God is a spirit, [/b]you'll need to use a different kind of rules: the spiritual rules. Since you don't believe in spiritual laws, you are completely blind. For those who believe, they know.

FSM is nothing to you hence it cannot be anything!

Before the invention of ammeters, the concept of current was an impossibility. To know God, you need your spiritual instrument within your spirit.

sonmvayina:

Since, you said God is a spirit, there is a very good possibility that the spirit is Allah or Eledumare or Chukwu, by which case you have lost.. And you will end up in their hell.. Is that a chance you want to take..?

UceeGod:


Because my mind is spiritually renewed. When the mind is illuminated by the Divine Spirit of God, comprehension becomes possible. That's why it's only through FAITH we can acknowledge the inexpressible reality of the living God.

LordReed:


How do you know this is an illumination and that it is from the god?

sonmvayina:

Since, you said God is a spirit, there is a very good possibility that the spirit is Allah or Eledumare or Chukwu, by which case you have lost.. And you will end up in their hell.. Is that a chance you want to take..?

shadeyinka:

I wish you can show me a scripture from any of these gods that I will go to their hell for not following them, then I will believe you.
Otherwise, you've just made a case for how ignorant you are. For your information, I am a Christian. I believe in and serve Jehovah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I obey Him (Jehovah ) alone to the exclusion of every and any other gods.

What a lame argument!

Anyways, The ball is in your court!

UceeGod:


because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God....the Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children
Romans 8 : 14, 16

I don't expect you to understand unless you've been regenerated spiritually. Only those who have been born by the Spirit of God would know His illumination when they experience it.

malvisguy212:
indeed, our God is a mighty God, mighty in power. thank you for this wonderful post, stay bless.

LordReed:


1. There is no evidence such a being exists

2. There is no way to test for such a being.

3. Continuously phenomena in our universe are being explained by natural processes ergo a god has not been required to explain anything thus far and is essentially useless.

shadeyinka:


You mean,

1. There is no physical evidence such a being exists

2. There is no physical way to test for such a being.

3. Continuously phenomena in our universe are being explained by natural processes ergo a god has not been required to explain anything thus far and is essentially useless.

Number 1 and 2 is like saying: "since there is no evidence that a voltmeter can measure distance, the dimensions of length doesn't exist"!

And your number 3 is a big lie.
If all natural laws break down before the big bang, how can you use the same natural laws to explain the origin of the universe?

shadeyinka:

I wish you can show me a scripture from any of these gods that I will go to their hell for not following them, then I will believe you.
Otherwise, you've just made a case for how ignorant you are. For your information, I am a Christian. I believe in and serve Jehovah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I obey Him (Jehovah ) alone to the exclusion of every and any other gods.

What a lame argument!

Anyways, The ball is in your court!

LordReed:


I don't know of another way tests are conducted aside from physically. Any being that exists and creates effect in this universe can be measured, at least its effects can so I do not accept any bullshit explanations of being unable to do any measurements because it is spiritual. No such "spiritual realm" can or has been demonstrated.

LordReed:

Calling it a lie is pure unadulterated rubbish. That the physical laws as we know them do not extend to conditions before the expansion event we call the big bang does not allow you to conclude that the process by which it came about is not natural. For Bleep sake, unknown/unexplained is not equal to god did it, our experience with observing our world should tell you that much.

malvisguy212:
this is were you atheists got it wrong , none of this gods seems to punished sin . in fact Allah even make its easier by saying two good deed can outweigh sin .

it doesn't matter wither you believe in God or not , God will judge ALL sin ......... God exist and Jesus has made Him known to us.

sonmvayina:

Sorry to. Say, but you are one of the dumbest person I have conversed with, so how did the people who lived before the time of the supposed jesus communicate with God or know God.. Wisdom is miles away from you...