bayelsaowei:
you are the joke here.. the olympics brings nations from all over the world to play ..the euros is just like every other continental competition like the afcon and copa america.. the bottom line is messi has acquired more national honours than your ronaldo...

cr7lomo:


Lol...brings all nations with limitations of only 3 senior players ...even the with that , important team players don't take it srs...messi power na Nigeria...his 2cups na against Nigeria ...local champion

cr7lomo:



Stop deceiving urself...messi that cudnt score one goal or assist one goal in 2014 in the knock out...di Maria did all the job, di Maria got injured immediately after scoring in the semis and Argentina cudnt score a single goal again till they lost in the finals

bayelsaowei:
please can somebody give this guy a very big knock on the head.. now i know many ronaldo fans are football babies.. did you watch the 2014 world cup at all??..messi didnt score goals or gave assists Please can somebody help me clear the ignorance of this fellow?? Nonsense.. please kindly use google and search messi goals in that world cup and the number of assists he gave right down to the finals.. how else did he win the golden ball award?? You must be ignorant my friend..

bayelsaowei:
how does your rant change the fact that messi won international trophies.. ??..

So you mean ronaldinho and dilema are not important players??..

Please answer

cr7lomo:


U are the ignorant fool disgracing urself in this forum....so u so blind that u dint know that messi dint score a single goal in the knock out of 2014 and u ignorantly are fooling urself here

Ozkar:
how many World Cup knockout goals did Ronaldo have in 2014 and 2018?

olaolaking:
It is possible. It had happened to all good players before. Everyday is not Christmas.

Ozkar:
yeah, when Ronaldo goes missing in official games (which is quite often for the hype he gets) you guys go silent like nothing happened. It becomes normal for a great player to drop a disasterclass. This is a typical Ronaldo game when he does not get penalties and a regular supply of passes and crosses.

What happened to "a great player makes the difference when playing with a bad team?"

Or is this because Portugal is not a bad team? They won the Euro 2016 final without Ronaldo on the pitch and are comfortably at the top of their UEFA Nations League group (that includes Italy and Poland) without him in the squad at all.

cr7lomo:



Hahahahahhahahahahhaha ....thank me for educating u first... U messi fools can't handle Ronaldos fire... The only man to score in 4consecutive WC ... The only man to hv scored hat tricks in every tournament he has ever played in

olaolaking:
Ronaldo does not go missing quite often unless we don't watch the same football. Madrid won 3 champion league in a row. Ronaldo has been the best performer in the 3 years for his team and you said misses often.

His effort in Portugal give them the credibility they have today. Even after substitution in the euro in the last game, the motivation he was dishing out from the side line confirmed him to be a winner

cr7lomo:


u are a clown... Ronaldo played that tournament when he wasn't really popular...he was still a junior...did he bother himself again 4yrs later or ever again??

Ozkar:
You clearly don't watch Ronaldo often. Lemme remind you a bit with just UCL this season. Let's not add the Juve defeat against Atalanta that knocked them out of their domestic cup. No need to add the last UCL final that Bale had to come from the bench to rescue Madrid.

In this year's UCL, Ronaldo played 6 games before the Atletico game in which he bagged a hattrick. Guess how many goals he had across those 6 previous games.

bayelsaowei:
ronaldo dilema was already polular when he played atlanta 96..he was the next best thing to pele.. if you grew up around that period you would have witnessed the football prowess of dilema...ronaldo was dribbling the hell out of humans both at psv and fc barcelona.. now i know you just started watching football..ronaldo was fully ready in preparation for france 98...ronaldo was even the ballon de or runner up in 96 before clinching it at 97.. please go and watch real football..

Ozkar:
first of all, you haven't educated anyone, except maybe the guy you were arguing with. I probably know more Ronaldo and Messi stats than you do. What's more I actually watch them play, and I know they aren't even on the same level.

Also, you still have not answered my question.

How many knockout goals did he have in those world cups? We both know his total goals across 4 world cups (he played in first team in all of them) is not up to 8.

Since you guys are bashing Messi for not scoring a knockout goal in 2015 despite being their creative centre all through the tournament and ending up with the golden ball, tell us how many knockout goals Ronaldo scored across the last two world cups. Don't even mention assists, cos he has like 2 assists in 4 world cup tournaments.

As a bonus, you can help remind us the world cup in which Ronaldo dragged his team to the final with his knockout goals.

ozilo1chance:


Don't forget he was wrongly red-carded in the first game against Valencia

ozilo1chance:

what shall it profit a man to DRAG his team to a WC final only to lose it.

olaolaking:
What do you mean by "I go fit"? So the players that played against Venezuela were the ones played in the previous world cups and other competitions.


Now mention the big players in the Portuguese team and their big clubs and how they are so much command respect. So that we can confirm your fact. Then I will name the big players in the Argentines team, their club, and how the fans so much believe in them in their various departments

cr7lomo:


...it's now certain that u are a hater...no b only nani ...Na mami

Ozkar:
let Ronaldo drag his team to a World Cup final first and win the golden ball, then we'd talk about it.

You have no point. Modric got multiple accolades including the Ballon d'Or after losing the WC final. Everyone agreed he had a great World Cup.

Jokerman:
Lolsss.... FIFA should allow Messi wear Barcelona shirt when playing for Argentina

olaolaking:
Messi had played with good quality players in the Argentines team. They have many big players he had played with bold past and present. Yet it is still excuses all the times.

So what makes you a good player? Please answer. Even me will perform well if you put me in a good team. That is what we are saying about messi. He played in a good club with good team and performed. You call him greatest. But Messi had only performed in one team. No Matter the team he plays for if it is not bacca he won't click. Though he had performed better against the super eagle of Nigeria. But then ask again, how good is super eagle?

Ozkar:
You clearly don't watch Ronaldo often. Lemme remind you a bit with just UCL this season. Let's not add the Juve defeat against Atalanta that knocked them out of their domestic cup. No need to add the last UCL final that Bale had to come from the bench to rescue Madrid.

In this year's UCL, Ronaldo played 6 games before the Atletico game in which he bagged a hattrick. Guess how many goals he had across those 6 previous games.

Moukandjo:

Oga, like I told you, it's not about having big name players wey some don expire. It's about the right balance from attack to defence & also in terms of the right mix of experience & youth especially of their starting line ups! Germany now doesn't have much big name players but their team is way more balanced than most other teams!
You can't be telling us Argentina has Dybala, Higuain (shey in reality, Higuain na player?), Aguero, Icardi, Tevez, Di Maria etc to play with Messi in attack when the reality is Messi will still most likely start alongside Maxi Meza & Christian Pavon in attack! Even if Messi plays with a maximum two of these "big name" forwards in the starting 11, goal keeper, defence & midfield nko? Where is the balance?


Rui Patrício
Ricardo Pereira
Pepe
José Fonte
Raphael Guerreiro
Bernardo Silva
Adrien Silva
William Carvalho
Joao Mario
Goncalo Guedes
Cristiano Ronaldo (c)

This is Portugal's line up against Uruguay that sent them home in the last WC! See how balanced the team is from back to front irrespective of "big names"?

Now give us Argentina's starting line up against France that sent them home & tell us how balanced that team was!

olaolaking:
My point still remain. I will perform if you put me in the midst of good footballers. If messi cannot lift another team except bacca, then he is not great.

The great players turn bad team to achiever.

If everything is centered on good team, then Messi is not great. Not until he bring result to a bad team. Until then he is just good but not great

ovadozes:
This fool and his idiotic Argentina that made me not win my 250k Las night
Goat my left testicle. Tufiakwa.

ovadozes:
This fool and his idiotic Argentina that made me not win my 250k Las night
Goat my left testicle. Tufiakwa.

Moukandjo:

Tell me one of these legends you call GOATs that "single-handedly" won a trophy for their national teams! Zidane? Pele? Maradona?
Just mention one & we'll bust the myths & propaganda for you now-now, especially that Maradona's own!

olaolaking:


I think I have to stop here since you are still finding it difficult to understand. This your last says is not showing that you understand this thing at all.


The Zidane and co you are talking about performed outstandingly and credibly well AT BOTH CLUB AND NATIONAL TEAM.
This is different from who performed only at club level and consistently Please note the word CONSISTENTLY - for about ten years, failed to lift the national team. He had played with different good players for the national team in the past, but he did not do anything special.

This is about reality on the ground not about what we like. Your love for the guy makes you not to see the other bad side where he needs to improve

bayelsaowei:
you guys are the real haters who have thrown away messis achievement with argentina and upholding ronaldos euro trophy which he made little or no impact in the finals against france.. messi has acquired more international honours than ronaldo.. argue with your self since you cant argue with facts.. rubbish..

JayGraphics:
I don't hate messi but the last time I check messi did not achieve anything with is national team.
And when I mean national team I mean the senior players not under 20.
Cause CR7 wasn't given the chance to play for Portugal fringe side. He was too important to the Senior team from 18

Moukandjo:



Your hate for the guy is actually making you not to notice Messi has played a key role in taking his teams to FOUR finals in international tournament (one WC & 3 copas) & was the best player in 2 of those tournaments (WC 2010 & 2015 Copa! In one other (2007 Copa), he scored the best goal, won best young player & was in the top 3 for the best players in that tournament alongside Robinho & Riquelme. You think say e easy? Or what else do you mean by consistent? Even if he plays trash in all the finals, where are the teammates to do the job like the teammates of Pele, Maradona, Zidane & even c.ronaldo did for them? I'm shocked you did not take up the challenge of giving us names of players you call GOATs who singlehandedly won trophies for their teams like you want Messi to do so we'll bust the myths quickly!
Abeg just mention one & the tournament! Tell me what special thing Maradona did in the 2 international finals he played?

What did c.Ronaldo do in 3 of the last 4 UCL finals he played (twice against Atleti & the last one against Liverpool)? He played absolute trash, but the other teammates stepped up to do the job! What did he do in the Euros final? Did he even play? But did you see what his teammates did to mighty France in France's backyard?

By the way, go & check Argentina's win ratio & even number of goals scored with Messi & without Messi in the last world cup qualifiers & see how bad it is! In fact, there was a period in the qualifiers when Messi was the only one that had scored for Argentina for months if not years!

Point remains Messi has tried! 1 WC final, 3 Copa America finals & being best player in each of those tournaments is not beans! Let the teammates help Messi too like teammates of other greats have done!

Moukandjo:

But facts no dey lie na! Check am! Nani scored same number of goals DESPITE him not being the point man like c.Ronaldo. And, most importantly, Nani no run away for final; he played full match like a man!