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Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by AloyEmeka5: 2:05am On Sep 12, 2010
Saudi diplomat seeking asylum: 'My life is in danger'
Envoy says he fears persecution if he leaves the U.S. and returns home

By Michael Isikoff
National investigative correspondent
NBC News
updated 57 minutes ago

A ranking Saudi diplomat told NBC News that he has asked for political asylum in the United States, saying he fears for his life if he is forced to return to his native country.


The diplomat, Ali Ahmad Asseri, the first secretary of the Saudi consulate in Los Angeles, has informed U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials that Saudi officials have refused to renew his diplomatic passport and effectively terminated his job after discovering he was gay and was close friends with a Jewish woman.
In a recent letter that he posted on a Saudi website, Asseri angrily criticized his country’s “backwardness” as well as the role of “militant imams” in Saudi society who have “defaced the tolerance of Islam.” Perhaps most provocatively of all, he has threatened to expose what he describes as politically embarrassing information about members of the Saudi royal family living in luxury in the U.S.



If he is forced to go back to Saudi Arabia — as Saudi officials are demanding — Asseri says he could face political persecution and even death.
“My life is in a great danger here and if I go back to Saudi Arabia, they will kill me openly in broad daylight,” Asseri said Saturday in an email to NBC.

In a recent interview, Asseri and his lawyer said that the Saudi diplomat was questioned by a Department of Homeland Security official in Los Angeles on Aug. 30 after formally applying for asylum on the grounds that he is a member of a “particular social group” — gays — that would subject him to persecution if he returns to his home country.

Officials at DHS in Washington as well as the Saudi Embassy in Washington and the Saudi consulate in Los Angeles did not respond to requests for comment.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39118941/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by Nobody: 11:17pm On Sep 12, 2010
ha another islamic hypocrite. I thot islam was peace and the US was the great satan.
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by Kilode1: 11:21pm On Sep 12, 2010
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Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by montelik(m): 11:28pm On Sep 12, 2010
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Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by ElRazur: 8:55am On Sep 13, 2010
davidylan:

ha another islamic hypocrite. I thot islam was peace and the US was the great satan.

F you man, how dare you? Everyone knows Islam is a religion of peace, never hurt a fly, respect human rights, treat women as equals and not intent on islamification of the world. F you man seriously for even thinking that. grin
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by hercules07: 3:37pm On Sep 13, 2010
I do not think Islam should be blamed for this, it is illegal for him to be gay in his country as it is in Nigeria, so, if he is gay, he is subject to the laws of his country which forbids it, he has done a wise thing by seeking asylum in a country that recognises gays. Please note I do not have anything against the sexual preference of anybody just stating things the way I see them.
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by vedaxcool(m): 1:03pm On Sep 20, 2010
hercules07:

I do not think Islam should be blamed for this, it is illegal for him to be gay in his country as it is in Nigeria, so, if he is gay, he is subject to the laws of his country which forbids it, he has done a wise thing by seeking asylum in a country that recognises gays. Please note I do not have anything against the sexual preference of anybody just stating things the way I see them.

This is the Only wise "Talk" I have read in this thread.
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by ElRazur: 12:32pm On Sep 21, 2010
Just out of interest, who made you an authority on such issues? More than 95% of the laws of the land in Saudi are based on what's in the Koran, so wtf are you on about?

In all honesty, let me borrow your logic for a second an say your post is one of the ONLY garbage in this thread. cheesy undecided
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by vedaxcool(m): 1:13pm On Sep 21, 2010
hercules07:

I do not think Islam should be blamed for this, it is illegal for him to be gay in his country as it is in Nigeria, so, if he is gay, he is subject to the laws of his country which forbids it, he has done a wise thing by seeking asylum in a country that recognises gays. Please note I do not have anything against the sexual preference of anybody just stating things the way I see them.
vedaxcool:

This is the Only wise "Talk" I have read in this thread.
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by bkbabe97y(m): 8:44am On Sep 22, 2010
ElRazur:

More than 95% of the laws of the land in Saudi are based on what's in the Koran, so wtf are you on about?



And u do realize that the foundation of the U.S constitution is based on the bible? Thou shalth not steal? Thou shalt not kill? Thou shalt not be stu*pid, dumb, ignorant, and morose like ElRazur. . . . ? You do read the bible dontcha?
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by ElRazur: 9:44am On Sep 22, 2010


And don't know if you noticed, but this thread is actually about Saudi. Saudi is more a religion state than the US. No? Smh.
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by vedaxcool(m): 11:38am On Sep 22, 2010
bk.babe97y:

And u do realize that the foundation of the U.S constitution is based on the bible? Thou shalth not steal? Thou shalt not kill? Thou shalt not be stu*pid, dumb, ignorant, and morose like ElRazur. . . . ? You do read the bible dontcha?
vedaxcool:

This is another wise "Talk" I have read in this thread.
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by bkbabe97y(m): 4:55pm On Sep 22, 2010
ElRazur:



And don't know if you noticed, but this thread is actually about Saudi. Saudi is more a religion state than the US. No? Smh.

Based on ur interpretation of what the media force-feeds u?
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by ElRazur: 5:12pm On Sep 22, 2010
bk.babe97y:

Based on your interpretation of what the media force-feeds u?

Will you disprove my statement or not, before blaming the bogey media and western world, plus the Zionist regime.

Before you side track the point, it is this ----> The laws of Saudi are fashioned mostly on what is in the Quran (or Islamic if you want). Please disprove this or shut up. smiley
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by bkbabe97y(m): 5:50pm On Sep 22, 2010
ElRazur:

Will you disprove my statement or not, before blaming the bogey media and western world, plus the Zionist regime.

Before you side track the point, it is this ----> The laws of Saudi are fashioned mostly on what is in the Quran (or Islamic if you want). Please disprove this or shut up. smiley

Lemme start the insults:Youre an imbeci*le! Monkey aszz negro! Bogey media and Western World, huh? oh, plus the zionist regime??! Fool!

What point am I trying to "side-track" on? Can you read, u irredeemable irritant? You said the Saudis based their laws on the Quran--- DID I DISPROVE YOUR ALLEGATIONS, YOU BEAST? All I said was the constitution/laws of this country are also based/formatted on the teachings of the Bible. Instead of calming down and reading what I wrote all u did was start foaming at the mouth, spewing venom like a rabid raccoon!

I've read ur postings in the past and ure as much a fanatical extremist as those u criticize! Next time, read and comprehend before coming at me: I dont suffer fools lightly!
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by ElRazur: 8:29pm On Sep 22, 2010
I think you are actually forming in the mouth right now shocked

So you posted filth that had nothing to do with the thread, in other to make some "GOD KNOWS WHAT" point. Then lacked the motive to engage logic once you got cornered.

As much as you are foaming in the mouth, I am glad you do read my post. Yes I am a fanatic, they call my type Aggressive Atheist. Remember that. smiley
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by bkbabe97y(m): 8:40pm On Sep 22, 2010
ElRazur:

I think you are actually forming in the mouth right now shocked

So you posted filth that had nothing to do with the thread, in other to make some "GOD KNOWS WHAT" point. Then lacked the motive to engage logic once you got cornered.

As much as you are foaming in the mouth, I am glad you do read my post. Yes I am a fanatic, they call my type Aggressive Atheist. Remember that. smiley

Being atheist does not equate ignorance! If u still dont see the point I made then, I guess, I cant help u! I read some of ur posts and ure just the same like ure trying to do on here. U just rant and rant, not taking the time to read what ur adversary put forward. Go back up, read both our posts (not just urs) then come back and drop a PROPER response instead of making all atheists look like dummies!
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by UyiIredia(m): 8:56pm On Sep 22, 2010
i'm anti-gay but pro-life >>>> figure the rest ,
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by ElRazur: 8:56pm On Sep 22, 2010
I read your post, hence why I called them filth. Your initial reply had nothing to do with the thread, same way the subsequent replies.  But yeah, keep talking. undecided
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by bkbabe97y(m): 9:05pm On Sep 22, 2010
ElRazur:

I read your post, hence why I called them filth. Your initial reply had nothing to do with the thread, same way the subsequent replies.  But yeah, keep talking. undecided

  Nah, son, dont tell me when to "keep" or stop talking! I'm enjoying the intellectual molestation Im putting u thru! Seems like u aint been spanked since the day u joined this forum; now u bout to get lights shut.

   I dont know how dumb u r (I'm guessing "very"wink, but, the botom-line is most countries base their laws (to a large/certain extent) on teachings of the holy books! Ure a atheist that hates Muslims! Sure! You said the Saudi laws are based on the Quran, I didnt argue! I said most of the U.S laws/Constitution are based on the teachings of the Bible; u throw a fit and try to impress me that u know the words "Bogey", "Zionist", "Western Media". . . . Who cares about all that crap? Shows that u were waiting to take the convo that route (by the way why are all your posts about Jews, Zionist, conspiracy theories ect---- seems to me like u got a problemo). Dropping pseudo-intelligent sounding words and making valid arguments are two very seperate things------ do urself a world of good and try to make the distinctions!
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by ElRazur: 9:20pm On Sep 22, 2010
bk.babe97y:

  Nah, son, dont tell me when to "keep" or stop talking! I'm enjoying the intellectual molestation Im putting u thru! Seems like u aint been spanked since the day u joined this forum; now u bout to get lights shut.

   I dont know how dumb u r (I'm guessing "very"wink, but, the botom-line is most countries base their laws (to a large/certain extent) on teachings of the holy books! Ure a atheist that hates Muslims! Sure! You said the Saudi laws are based on the Quran, I didnt argue! I said most of the U.S laws/Constitution are based on the teachings of the Bible; u throw a fit and try to impress me that u know the words "Bogey", "Zionist", "Western Media". . . . Who cares about all that crap? Shows that u were waiting to take the convo that route (by the way why are all your posts about Jews, Zionist, conspiracy theories ect---- seems to me like u got a problemo). Dropping pseudo-intelligent sounding words and making valid arguments are two very seperate things------ do urself a world of good and try to make the distinctions!

Intellectual spanking? Dude, no offence but you lack what it takes.

How smart are you to realise that this thread is actually about Saudi. I opted to point this out to you since you seem to have a problem with my post. Secondly, you appear to have made some illogical assumptions: Yes, I am atheist, but claiming I hate Muslims without no proof whatsoever just goes to show the class of smartness you belong, and your level of IQ. Very low at best. Having said that, that is your prerogative, not mine.

Back to my point, you then opted to make some points that are more or less weak and in most cases unrelated to the discussion at hand. Again I pointed this out, but it appears to hit a nerve that you had to act up. For the record, when I use phrases like Bogey media and western and Zionist regime, I am pre-empting all your logics before hand. Get it?

You claimed the laws of the US are based on the bible, yet you ignore the fact that Saudi runs a different version of government from the US. Islamic type of government runs in the Saudi Kingdom hence my comment about how it is based around Quran etc. I guess this goes way past your head and you see the need to show you are a joke.

May be we got off the wrong start, but I will want you to point me to a valid contribution you may think you have made in this thread so far? Is it your first comments or the subsequent ones?
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by bkbabe97y(m): 10:03pm On Sep 22, 2010
ElRazur:

Intellectual spanking? Dude, no offence but you lack what it takes.

How smart are you to realise that this thread is actually about Saudi. I opted to point this out to you since you seem to have a problem with my post. Secondly, you appear to have made some illogical assumptions: Yes, I am atheist, but claiming I hate Muslims without no proof whatsoever just goes to show the class of smartness you belong, and your level of IQ. Very low at best. Having said that, that is your prerogative, not mine.

Back to my point, you then opted to make some points that are more or less weak and in most cases unrelated to the discussion at hand. Again I pointed this out, but it appears to hit a nerve that you had to act up. For the record, when I use words like Bogey media and western and Zionist regime, I pre-empting all your logics before hand. Get it?

You claimed the laws of the US are based on the bible, yet you ignore the fact that Saudi runs a different version of government from the US. Islamic type of government runs in the Saudi Kingdom hence my comment about how it is based around Quran etc. I guess this goes way past your head and you see the need to show you are a joke.

May be we got off the wrong start, but I will want you to point me to a valid contribution you may think you have made in this thread so far? Is it your first comments or the subsequent ones?   


And, how long did it take you to scour the dictionary for you to find the appropriate "big words" in which to use to buttress your invalid points?!

Ok, lets start from the beginning of your "grin.O.A" argument:

ElRazur:


How smart are you to realise that this thread is actually about Saudi. I opted to point this out to you since you seem to have a problem with my post. Secondly, you appear to have made some illogical assumptions: Yes, I am atheist, but claiming I hate Muslims without no proof whatsoever just goes to show the class of smartness you belong, and your level of IQ. Very low at best. Having said that, that is your prerogative, not mine.


   So, since the thread is "about Saudi", if a person tries to put forth a counter-argument but needs to use another country (i.e the U.S) to support his/her point in order for it to make sense, it is not allowed?

    The thread is not about Saudi as u so falsely, and wantonly claim, this thread is about a Saudi man in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. So, u would agree with me that its about the U.S as much as it is about Saudi. Further, u made a claim by using Saudi as an example, I countered that claim, using the United States to show that both countries arent that distinct in that their laws are based on the Holy books whether Christian or Muslim. . . . .

    Besides, I do not "claim" you hate Muslims, I do KNOW you hate Muslims. Remember, Ive read your previous posts. . . .


ElRazur:


Back to my point, you then opted to make some points that are more or less weak and in most cases unrelated to the discussion at hand. Again I pointed this out, but it appears to hit a nerve that you had to act up. For the record, when I use phrases like Bogey media and western and Zionist regime, I am pre-empting [/b]all your logics before hand.[b] Get it?



No, I dont get it! Your using such phrases, PRE-EMPTIVELY , just shows that ure either a wannabe or an unapologetic Jew defender and Islamic Hater!


ElRazur:

You claimed the laws of the US are based on the bible, yet you ignore the fact that Saudi runs a different version of government from the US. Islamic type of government runs in the Saudi Kingdom hence my comment about how it is based around Quran etc. I guess this goes way past your head and you see the need to show you are a joke.


  I claimed? I claimed? lol. The laws of the U.S are mostly borrowed off the Bible just like the Saudis base theirs on the Quran! My beef with you is your attitude (and that of most semi-illiterates that think they know a lot, when they infact know nothing) of applying a double standard just cus u hate the other party. This is the same problem I have with the Biafrans on here! "They are bad just cus I hate them even though in reality we're actually doing the same thing"!!!

   What would u call the laws of the United States being that its background is Christian? You dont know? lol. But what would you call that of the Saudis, being that its background is Muslim, and you hate them, and you know that the term "Islamic Law" (or "any religion" law) strikes fear in the hearts of men far and wide? You get where Im coming from, now? Oh, of course u wont! If the Saudis, based on their applying laws from the Quran, are running a "Muslim Govt", could u honestly say (with a straight face) that the U.S and most Western European countries who build their foundation on the basis of the Bible are not running Christian governments? Ah, why, cus the Western Media (which u were so quick to name check) doesnt say so?

   Dude, before you come at me in an argument do a proper research and stop letting the rest of us atheist look bad. A real atheist does not "choose sides"; we remain on the sidelines and let the "God-believers" sort themselves out. As long as ure an unapologetic Jew, and Christian defender (and a Muslim hater) your true intentions have been exposed and all u gotta do now is to start observing the Sabbath and going to Church every sunday. . . . Oh, and if ure a Catholic, the habitual molestation of innocent lil' boys. . . . . . . .
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by ElRazur: 10:39pm On Sep 22, 2010
bk.babe97y:

And, how long did it take you to scour the dictionary for you to find the appropriate "big words" in which to use to buttress your invalid points?!

Ok, lets start from the beginning of your "grin.O.A" argument:

   So, since the thread is "about Saudi", if a person tries to put forth a counter-argument but needs to use another country (i.e the U.S) to support his/her point in order for it to make sense, it is not allowed?

    The thread is not about Saudi as u so falsely, and wantonly claim, this thread is about a Saudi man in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,so, u would agree with me that its about the U.S as much as it is about Saudi. Further, u made a claim by using Saudi as an example, I countered that claim, using the United States to show that both countries arent that distinct in that their laws are based on the Holy books whether Christian or Muslim. . . . .

Grade A Filth.

Since you have claimed you followed my post on the forum, I guess it would have occurred to you that my post is consistent with my manner of posting. You see, your inability to perhaps not understand some of my phrases are your problem, not exactly mine. You see, anyone with half-a-brain can actually read and comprehend what I am saying. Smh.

Captain obvious, everyone knows what the thread is about, but if you want to be obtuse in order to give yourself a false-feeling of making a valid point, please be my guest.



    Besides, I do not "claim" you hate Muslims, I do KNOW you hate Muslims. Remember, Ive read your previous posts. . . .

This is just another of you filth. Yes you claimed I hate Muslims, there isn't anything I have posted that suggest I hate Muslim. You see, I do not know the school of thought you come from or subscribe to. However, speaking out or being vocal is not the same as hating. I suppose little distinctions like this really confuses you. The is just you low IQ coming into play at best.


No, I dont get it! Your using such phrases, PRE-EMPTIVELY , just shows that ure either a wannabe or an unapologetic Jew defender and Islamic Hater!

The price of tea in china. Dude your logic is one funny one. How did you arrive at Jews and hating Islam in a thread about Saudi/Gay person? I want whatever you are smoking.


  I claimed? I claimed? lol. The laws of the U.S are mostly borrowed off the Bible just like the Saudis base theirs on the Quran! My beef with you is your attitude (and that of most semi-illiterates that think they know a lot, when they infact know nothing) of applying a double standard just cus u hate the other party. This is the same problem I have with the Biafrans on here! "They are bad just cus I hate them even though in reality we're actually doing the same thing"!!!

Yes you claimed. Do you mind posting a proof to back this up?  undecided Laws such as do not kill and do not steal are more or less social laws and has been in existence way before the holy books, but it will be interesting to see what you come up with on this one. On contrast, the Saudi based most of their laws on the interpretation of the Quran, and even run an Islamic form of government. And this is why I really do not see how US comes into play. Homosexuals are not haunted down or killed in the US - Their rights are guaranteed by the state, however this is not the case with Saudi Arabia. So I really fail to see how you will link the two.

On a side note, it is your problem if you have a problem with me you see.

 
 What would u call the laws of the United States being that its background is Christian? You dont know? lol. But what would you call that of the Saudis, being that its background is Muslim, and you hate them, and you know that the term "Islamic Law" (or "any religion" law) strikes fear in the hearts of men far and wide? You get where Im coming from, now? Oh, of course u wont! If the Saudis, based on their applying laws from the Quran, are running a "Muslim Govt", could u honestly say (with a straight face) that the U.S and most Western European countries who build their foundation on the basis of the Bible are not running Christian governments? Ah, why, cus the Western Media (which u were so quick to name check) doesnt say so?

Dude you really are thick in the head. Religion is given a big preference over common sense in most Religion based-type of government (Saudi). Whereas, in the western world (USA) there is a separation of State and religion, and mostly Secular. Seriously, your points here are just daft and full of meaningless garbage.

   Dude, before you come at me in an argument do a proper research and stop letteing the rest of us atheist look bad. A real atheist does not "choose sides"; we remain on the sidelines and let the "God-believers" sort themselves out. As long as ure an unapologetic Jew, and Christian defender (and a Muslim hater) your true intentions have been exposed and all u gotta do now is to start observing the Sabbath and going to Church every sunday. . . . Oh, and if ure a Catholic, the habitual molestation of innocent lil' boys. . . . . . . .

So you ended your rant with something about Jew, Christians and Sexxxual molestation happenings in the Catholic church?  undecided  Dude, that is like the price of tea in china and the price of a tokunbo car in Belgium. They have no correlation whatsoever.

Dude, keep talking. You really are making little or no sense. undecided
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by bkbabe97y(m): 10:54pm On Sep 22, 2010
Clearly, u cant read or (based on ur previous posts with others---- which I am reading) u just like arguing for the sake of it. Go back and re-read what we both wrote, maybe then u'll "get it"!
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by muhsin(m): 1:25pm On Sep 23, 2010
Hey,

Old Aloy+Emeka and his tantrum infected posts mean to dent Islam.

Keep trying and failing. U'll never succeed.
Re: Gay Saudi Diplomat Seeking Asylum In Us: 'my Life Is In Danger' by AloyEmeka5: 10:43pm On Sep 23, 2010
muhsin:

Hey,

Old Aloy+Emeka and his tantrum infected posts mean to dent Islam.

Keep trying and failing. U'll never succeed.
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