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Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by barapistis(m): 7:53am On Apr 09, 2019 |
[quote author=IAmSabrina post=77383734] What do you call hearing from this god @bolded? How can we tell if it's not just your conscience or your imagination? How do you know the difference? Cc. jesusjnr / jesusjnr2 / jjresurrected[/quevilf Hearing from God is usually from a gradual process of your relationship with Him Most times He doe start this relationship with many Christians via dreams and visions Until you matured to hear His voice I am able to tell the difference as it didn't start in a day In my own case,I was always studying the bible and seeing how he communicated with different bible characters I had longed to communicate with whom the people around me called God We also had a family friend whom I can remember till this day Who has a profound gift in the word of knowledge This woman sees almost everything ,this got me thinking even as a seven year old She could speak about events 2 weeks back with clarity(so I concluded even without any knowledge of God then at 7 years old that there was a Guy who know everything ) From there he did appeared to me in in a dream ,told me some things and left His appearance in that particular dream was inform of a wind I was favoured too to meet Christ as I grew Guys(the love I saw in the eye of Christ cannot be comprehend) Most of my encounters as a young boy were in dreams till I started studying and praying Then I started hearing his voice confirming my dreams with scriptures Kindly not that the Holy Spirit does teach the scriptures Then I started asking Him questions too There is voice of our conscience which is part of a guidance from God to everyone To know Good and evil ( imaginations:::I do not have much knowledge on this) But what is guaranteed in hearing the voice of God is first of all a good understanding of scriptural principles (most times the most common of scriptural verses is what God will use to explain Himself or a situation to you.. Any voice not inline with scripture is not the voice of God That way you can easily deduce if its your conscience or an imagination Your understanding of the above is totally a thing of maturity Finally ,like I had stated earlier in previous post You are not in the kingdom of God if you are still claiming to be smart The kingdom is for people controlled by the spirit of wisdom ,therefore there operation is in wisdom and not in smartness I said the above as demons do speak too You can hear them , I have heard witches laughing at me I have heard them cry too Lucifer does quote the scripture and confirms things to you The only way out of the jargon is a close relationship with the spirit Some times you will be lead to do things you don't know you are doing just to safe your self as the plane you are about entering requires more wisdom which you may not have at that particular time So the final solution is to be led via obedience 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Nobody: 7:57am On Apr 09, 2019 |
IAmSabrina:Hi sis! If you want me to take your question seriously, you have to do same to my God. Otherwise as much as I respect you ![]() |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by barapistis(m): 7:58am On Apr 09, 2019 |
LordReed: There is indeed an intuition... Everybody has this But your intuition is majorly affected by your knowledge of things This is different from the voice of God |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by barapistis(m): 8:06am On Apr 09, 2019 |
jesusjnr: Hi bro, Seems the person your referring to is not a christian right? I no wan waste time too |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by LordReed(m): 8:10am On Apr 09, 2019 |
barapistis: There is no such "voice of god". Just one test will let you know that there is no god making any speech to you. If you want ask your god for my real name and post it here. |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by barapistis(m): 8:20am On Apr 09, 2019 |
LordReed: We don't test God There is a purpose for every actions Your heart intents are foolish therefore ,you cannot get an answer This not of abuse but of truth 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Nobody: 8:22am On Apr 09, 2019 |
barapistis:Good morning bro! I still have pending responses to your comments. Yes but she's my friend, so I just want her to at least do the necessary. Would get back to you soon. Thanks for your contribution thus far, God bless you real good. |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by LordReed(m): 8:26am On Apr 09, 2019 |
barapistis: LoL! See dodging. Your fake god can never reveal something to you your intuition cannot already work out. Test your so called gifts of the holy ghost and see if you ever get anything close to the test I gave you. Keep believing rubbish. LMFAO! |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by barapistis(m): 8:31am On Apr 09, 2019 |
LordReed: Even the gifts are given for service Not for testing Except if the test itself is for service then you cannot exhibit any spiritual gift with the intent of a test Man is just a reciver of the gift Man does not posses these gifts |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by TVSA: 8:32am On Apr 09, 2019 |
LordReed:their only gift of the hoely ghost is to catch people with fake monikers. And they are not even good at it. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Nobody: 8:36am On Apr 09, 2019 |
TVSA: ![]() ![]() ![]() Cc:jesusjnr,lordreed |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Nobody: 8:42am On Apr 09, 2019 |
LordReed:My dear it's a pity many call intuition the holy Spirit,most times they will claim it is the holy spirit when you tell them your intuition tells you what appeals their ears,but if the message is contrary to what appeals them then they say it is just your own mind.... I do believe that some humans are gifted not just christians,seen atheists and Muslims with visions that come to pass but off course the Christian's will shove their gift off as something from the devil. It's a shame that if a pagan has a gift,it's not taking into account or will be assumed to come from the devil except it serves God purpose....does God only gifts Christians? Cc:jesusjnr, iamsabrina,Hahn,martinez39 |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by LordReed(m): 8:48am On Apr 09, 2019 |
barapistis: OMFG! LMFAO! So you are now denying your own scriptures just to make a point. Na wa. LMFAO! |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by LordReed(m): 8:49am On Apr 09, 2019 |
TVSA: LMFAO! Oh my days. My sides are aching. |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by LordReed(m): 8:51am On Apr 09, 2019 |
Michellekabod1: This thing we call brain is an amazing tool and to be true we don't know everything about it but I do not think anybody has any sort of spiritual gift. Some people are extremely good at cold reading, look it up. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Martinez39(m): 8:56am On Apr 09, 2019 |
Michellekabod1:Gbam. Intuition is not the Holy Spirit. Sometimes your prediction and guts can be misleading. To credit it to the Holy Spirit when your prediction and guts are accurate but blame your mind for the failures is a whole new level of dishonesty, stupidity and self deceit. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by CAPSLOCKED: 8:58am On Apr 09, 2019 |
barapistis: I THINK THAT IS BECAUSE 1. GOD HAS FAILED IN HIS RESPONSIBILITY OF COMMUNICATING WITH HIS PEOPLE. 2. THE FEW THAT CLAIM TO INTERACT WITH GOD ARE CROOKS AND JOKERS WHO MAKE THINGS UP.. BECAUSE GOD HAS NEVER, DOESN'T, AND WILL NEVER CONVERSATE WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE (S)HE/IT IS INCAPABLE OF DOING THAT. SIMPLY BECAUSE IT/(S)HE DOESN'T EXIST IN REALITY AND OUTSIDE THE BLOCKHEADS OF BELIEVERS. barapistis: ALL THE OTHER THINGS IN THIS POST IS UTTER NONSENSE AND I DEEPLY REGRET THAT I READ IT. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by NNAMDIII(m): 9:10am On Apr 09, 2019 |
CAPSLOCKED:I really don't know when they'll start believing that God doesn't exist, I'm tired of humans. Africans take religion too serious 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by NnennaG6(f): 9:12am On Apr 09, 2019 |
LordReed:There are states of mind that are euphoric, brought on by collective enthusiasm, emotional chord progressions, and the like. These are not necessarily the Holy Ghost. Lots of people leave the church, find another religion, or disbelieve and turn to another worldview. Religious ecstacies happen in anti-Christ faiths. None of this disproves the work of the Holy Ghost. The primary issue here is salvation. Was that real?? Some imagine that salvation lies on a table in a library full of apologetic books. They think that it's up to them to weigh the evidence and then, if they think this God is worthy, reach out for the salvation that God has set out for them. But God is God. He saves whom he will. He speaks to whom he will. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by barapistis(m): 9:45am On Apr 09, 2019 |
CAPSLOCKED: Thank God you went through the post Nothing more to say 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by UceeGod: 11:32am On Apr 09, 2019 |
IAmSabrina: The worst thing that can happen to a human is spiritual death - separation from his living Creator. If you're alive in your spirit - connected to God, your intuition, conscience and communion will be active and peaceful. Your imagination belongs to the realm of your soul(mind, emotion and will). You can't communicate with God through your mind or emotion but they must cooperate with your spirit to effectively communicate with God. |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Nobody: 11:47am On Apr 09, 2019 |
LordReed:The fact is not the Holy Spirit revealing your name, but the truth is that even when it is revealed you will still deny it in order to support your atheistic view............looooool. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by UceeGod: 12:00pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
Michellekabod1: God showers His rain on everyone. God blesses anyone He pleases with whatever gift He desires. But His gifts are meant to be used for His purpose and glory alone, only then can the gifted be fulfilled in life. Satan is our common enemy who doesn't want anyone to fulfill what he/she has been created for (to glorify God), so he labours day and night to deceive humanity into pursuing personal agenda and pleasures against God's purpose. Anyone who isn't spiritually alive unto God through Jesus Christ is at the risk of using his God-given gift for satanic purpose. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Nobody: 12:17pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
UceeGod:You people keep painting this picture of a spiritual realm but you people have never been able to prove such a realm exists. Personally, i don't see the need for long explanations. What you people call "God's voice" or the holy spirit, i call my intuition which is constantly affected by brain activities, eg. the neuro-trasmitters that are proven to influence our mood. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by UceeGod: 1:15pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
IAmSabrina: The Word of God divides and brings clarity between your soul and spirit (Hebrews 4:12). The intuition is the medium through which the Holy Spirit of God communicates with a renewed spirit. The intuition isn't supposed to be subject to the mind and emotion, but due to the fall of humanity, the reverse is the case (as if the spirit man is dead and can only obey what the soul receives from the physical environment). When the spirit of man becomes alive (regenerated) by God's Spirit, then the soul begins to obey the spirit instead of the body and physical environment. |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Nobody: 1:17pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
NnennaG6:@bold is just hilarious. It really is. But anyway, that's not even the issue. Let's say your god existed and he was indeed all-loving. Given the nature with which he's being described in the bible, as a god who wants to have a relationship with us, why should we have to bother ourselves with seperating his voice from our subconscious? Why will a "father" hide himself to the point where his "children" will doubt his existence? His existence should be as overwhelming and undeniable as the noonday sun in full blaze, or, at the very least, not open to dispute. Seems to me your god is not that much different from a neglectful dad. Maybe its just me, but saying "He saves who he wants" heavily contradicts his omnibenevolence and the fact that he wants to have a relationship with you & me. Cc. Martinez39 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by LordReed(m): 1:18pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
NnennaG6: Ok so you can't prove your god until it is good and ready to prove itself. Thanks for clearing that up. LoL 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by LordReed(m): 1:20pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
Agrogbeide: Ok so it can reveal it right? Why not take a shot, I ain't going nowhere. LoL! |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Nobody: 1:20pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
UceeGod:I'm sorry but i can only accept this argument if you can demonstrate that spirits exist. |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by Martinez39(m): 1:28pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
IAmSabrina:Haven't you heard? He saves whom he wants. He has decided to save Jesusjnr, TATIME, Ihedinobi3 and left you, me, 1Sharon, CAPSLOCKED and others to perish even though it contradicts his benevolent nature and somehow, we will take the blame for "sending ourselves to hell." It doesn't make sense but the ways of the Lord are not our ways and his ways are mysterious. It is the will of god, please respect that. He grants mercy on whom he will grant mercy and can save anyone he wants despite : 2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." It may not make sense but the Lord's will is supreme. ![]() 2 Corinthians 5:7 "For we walk by faith, not by sight." It's easy to not get surprised by the thought processes of these christards. ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by NnennaG6(f): 1:44pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
LordReed:Perhaps what you fail to realize is that there are many benefits to God's divine hiddenness that hold supreme value Any world in which the superintendence of God is an obvious fact is a world in which significant moral liberty is almost impossible. God can vouchsafe us significant moral choice is by temporarily situating himself at an epistemic distance. It grants us responsibility to discern ultimate truths about reality God hides himself to make it possible for us to perform potentially selfless and unrewarded good actions and so form a very good moral character. It is as such a plausible feature of a temporary antecedent world created by God with a view to producing creatures who are morally fit for an eternal one. If God intervened too frequently in the antecedent world (such as by answering almost every prayer or intervening to prevent almost every wrongdoing), don't you think the world would lack this crucial regularity and the feasibility of a world of morally free agents would be compromised? |
Re: Why Do Christians Act As Disturbed Fellows? by NnennaG6(f): 1:51pm On Apr 09, 2019 |
IAmSabrina:The problem is you people are making confident assumptions of how God is supposed to act. Have you people ever considered that maybe our finite minds can't formulate reliable observational criteria for an entity of abyssal intelligence, unlimited power and perfect love? What if the your expectations about God are fundamentally dysfunctional, unreasonable and wrong? In that case, God would want you to overcome them and conforming to them would mislead and harm. And even the further objection that God, being all powerful and all knowing, would be able to find some appropriate way to make his existence obvious to each of his creatures, whatever their expectations, does not escape the problem. For just the same God either conforms to the unbeliever's expectations or he does not. And so my confidence in the divine hiddenness of God is only as strong as my confidence in the tenability of your expectations about God. And here NO confidence is justified. It is logical: a being who can control every atom in the universe by a basic action and who views us under the aspect of infinite intelligence and perfect morality may have ways of fulfilling his loving purposes for us that do not meet our expectations - purposes in which, perhaps, even our doubt and unbelief have their preordained place. Your argument seems to rest on a gross failure of imagination concerning the one subject about which limitations are unjustified. You can't pin God Almighty down like a butterfly in a showcase. |
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