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Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by ladman(m): 7:53pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
RichBoy247: As much as you have said the right things, I share your fear of misuse of police force, but we already call governors chief security officersof their state, and put billions in their care, we need policing at the state level that works closely with communities. How do you have community policing without any form of government control? 1 Like |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by ibietela2(m): 7:57pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
RichBoy247: You are talking rubbish, the America we copy how many times are the governors/mayors using the police? |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by ibietela2(m): 8:03pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
blindjustice13: British abi America? |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by Nobody: 8:07pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
Oshin56: U don't have sense. For u to think only LAGOS can manage state police. Has LAGOS been able to manage herself for decades now? |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by Nobody: 8:30pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
RichBoy247: You have valid points. Please extend it by giving a summary definition on community policing. thanks. 1 Like |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by ibietela2(m): 8:52pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
Neoteny: Most our problems is linked to one problem, after that is achieved some will fall into place |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by Oshin56(m): 9:24pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
PrecisionFx:case close see you you can not defense your argument see you later after receiving sense |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by Dakad: 9:26pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
100% correct Startup00: 1 Like |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by Nobody: 10:28pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
Oshin56: U have no case |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by babawella: 10:44pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
Oshin56:Bro in as much as I understand your fear, your mentality is the kind that makes Africa still remain where it is today. You allow fear to restrict you from moving forward. So because airplane has a tendency to crash you would not travel by air again, or cuz automobile vehicle accident you won't move by car again. Yes state police has a tendency to be misused by the governor shouldn't stop us from practicing it, afterall, president can also misuse federal police. What we should do is to put mechanism in place to prevent the hijack and misuse of the department by the governors, then adopt it because it is more effective to nib crime in the bud before it actually happened. If Northeast had state police in place, they would had had better chance at identifying potential book haram members, persuade some and luck up the hardened ones before they grow wing to become monsters they are today. This is because is allows people that knows one another to report potential crime or criminal to another fellow that grew up with them and knows the terrains who is the commissioner of police than bringing someone from another tribe who doesn't know the terrain or the culture of the people he want to superintend in their policing. In answering your question about which state can effectively adopt and practice state police, I say to you that ALL STATES IN NIGERIA CAN DO IT. Like I said earlier, all they need to do is putting necessary mechanism in place to reduced to greater extent, the intervention, influence or contribution of the state executive in choosing the police commissioner or running the system. MY POLICY/STRATEGY ON HOW TO ACHIEVE THIS: There should be police service commission (PSC) to be created by the law of each state with the function of appointing and firing police commissioners. The selected and appointed commissioner name should be forwarded to the state House of assembly for ratification and the name sent to the governor as a mere formality. The sending of the name to governor should trigger the effectiveness of the appointment. The budget of the police should be ratify by the PSC and assembly and be the first thing to be deducted from the source of state coffers before the governor do any other things. The PSC members should be constituted by combination of retired cheif judges of the state, retired police commissioner, professors of sociology or criminology, and representatives of BAR and Civil society, all who would be elected by members of their professional constituencies for 4 years that is renewable at the end of every 4 years, and the election of each members should be staggered. *Note that the JOB will be free, so it's only those that are willing to serve their state and have the integrity that would be there. If we want to take it a step further, the state House of assembly members that would be ratifying the appointment too should be have their salaries being paid by their constituencies and not the governor to prevent them from being influenced. Each constituency should pay what it can afford (which means there won't be uniform take home for all the honourables, and this is an incentive to make them listen to their constituencies that send them there and prevent gang-up), and the vote on ratification of police commissioner should be done openly so the constituencies would know which of the honourables vote in favour and against the ratification so they can ask them the reaso behind their action. If the house fail to ratify without an acceptable reason to the people, the nominated police commissioner should stay in active capacity pending when the case would be taken before a court, and once he/she is clear of any wrongdoing or baggages, he (commissioner) should continue and the judgement should be seeing as the ratification. With this strategy, the believe state police is possible, and can be done effectively with minimal and insignificant interface from the governor. 2 Likes |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by tsdarkside(m): 11:12pm On Apr 11, 2019 |
that constitution is a fraud....gives too much immunity to politicians.... politicians should be punishable immediatly and not after they are out of office.... |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by MondayOsunbor(m): 6:05am On Apr 12, 2019 |
RichBoy247: the federal police we have now is it working that is wrong with this people ? LAPD na state police NYPD na state police for America a governor have at most 8 years term Na una dey fear loosing UNA FEDERAL MIGHT abi |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by nabiz(m): 6:19am On Apr 12, 2019 |
RichBoy247:your comment just weak me in this country. |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by nabiz(m): 6:27am On Apr 12, 2019 |
Oshin56:oga every state in nigeria is not only ripe to have a state police but can become a country of it own. If governor misbehave because he has policing power he will be deal with locally. When do you thing Nigeria will mature for state police. Mind you there will still be check and balance lice also having federal police |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by sanusikebbe(m): 7:06am On Apr 12, 2019 |
Talk of State police must be premature for now, as most state officials will only use it as a means of harassing their opponents. But truth be told, the provisions of the 1999 constitution will never allow us to make progress and that is why the whole system is nothing short of being corrupt today. It is full of favoritism especially to the elite class. It offers very little to the development of the common man in Nigeria. Without its proper review to favor the common man, we'll never expect sustainable peace. |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by AreaFada2: 7:32am On Apr 12, 2019 |
blindjustice13:How well has federal might served us since 1966? The problem is that it is all about power, not about contract with the people. So a country with high crime and povet rates, ravaged by Boko Haram and herdsmen is not already ablaze? The courts are there to interpret the condition regarding the remits of the tiers of government so whatever might should not be the issue. The most advanced countries are those that have devolved much power to local governments, states or regions like Switzerland, Germany, USA, UK, etc. Before you mention our "peculiarities", those countries have theirs but did not use it as an excuse to remain backward. |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by RichBoy247: 7:42am On Apr 12, 2019 |
PrecisionFx: What did I wtite that warrant this abuse? Definitely you need psychiatric evaluation. You are obviously suffering from depression and mental imbalance. |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by blindjustice13(m): 7:46am On Apr 12, 2019 |
AreaFada2:first I think you need to read the meaning of backward before you use it loosely, there are countries that practice backward system of government and the Nigerian system isn't one of them.There are a lot of places where this same system will work perfectly, but Nigerian being Nigerians will always find a way to make it about them and them alone,so even the best system will fail In Nigeria Secondly, Switzerland or UK is not Nigeria, no politician in the UK uses the police to harass citizens or inec officials . I think instead of trying to copy others we need to look at our society and develop a system that works. I am only particularly against state police I could care less about what other change is made to the constitution |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by AreaFada2: 8:00am On Apr 12, 2019 |
blindjustice13:A system based on tribe and religion in very diverse country is not backward? Where politicians even at the highest level sponsor election rigging? Let me just hope you have never lived in a Westen country. Then I will understand why you think Nigeria is Uhuru already. In that case no need to discuss further. |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by blindjustice13(m): 8:05am On Apr 12, 2019 |
AreaFada2:actually I don't live in Nigeria, but hey, I really dont need to discuss it further because a lot of you think because it works for A ,that means B is useless, that is a myopic way to look at life. And next time dont always assume ,it only makes you shallow.And just so you know,the system is not the problem but the people ,99% of Nigerians are dishonest and criminal minded, let's not also forget they are tribalistic and sentimental. |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by babawella: 8:12am On Apr 12, 2019 |
MondayOsunbor:Point of correction, LAPD & NYPD aren't state police, they are city police. America big cities have their own police different from the states, some states have state police, while small towns have sheriffs (which the local police) |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by oyatz(m): 12:02pm On Apr 12, 2019 |
Sir, you just echoed the fears of the antagonists of State Police . State Police does NOT mean 1) Abrogation of the present Federal Police system. 2) Replacement of the present Police with the State Police. 3) State Police will have unlimited powers just as the State Judiciary doesn't mean the Governors can dictate who should be jailed or set free. State Police (and even State Prisons) can co-exist side by side with the Federal Police as in the First Republic with their powers well defined. RichBoy247: |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by oyatz(m): 12:49pm On Apr 12, 2019 |
Why are States owing salaries? 1) With restructuring, States should be empowered with greater responsibilities and this will be accompanied by greater economic independence. 2) #States should control their resources and contribute a certain agreed percentage to the FG for running few joint services like the Military, Foreign Affairs, Immigration, Central Bank & monetary policies. 3) Every States should generate it's electricity or buy from electricity companies. States that can't generate their electricity should be in darkness! Joromi12: |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by Horus(m): 2:22pm On Apr 12, 2019 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz41dy0FOY0 Robert Clarke Likens Nigeria's 1999 Constitution To A "Rotten Egg" |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by Nobody: 5:41pm On Apr 12, 2019 |
oyatz:naso, why did the british join us some regions were not profitable. without FAAC many states will die. it will take 5 to 8 years before any economic benefits can be felt in those barren states. so till then they shud die |
Re: Senator Adeyeye: 1999 Constitution Cannot Give Us Progress, Peace And Unity by BuhariAdvocate: 5:56pm On Apr 12, 2019 |
He is right .1999 constitution not favor the masses elites are benefiting massively from it. Johnnyessence: |
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