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Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by Westtimeline: 3:59pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
tgmservice:Those places are learner where onitsha and aba dey |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by AlhajaChinyere: 4:00pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Rossikk: Let me tell you some realities Brother, Nigeria is a very very poor country and the governments that cannot pay N18k minimum wage cannot be expected to build sidewalks and underground drainage across a haphazard city like Lagos or the country. We have to manage what we have .......and look after what we have diligently. Open drainage is what we can afford for now and we as citizens are supposed to look after it as best we can as possible. The citizens of Nigeria are animals in human skin, I tell you. Let's look after what we have for now. 1 Like |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by nograv: 4:02pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Mrkumareze: Proof that Nigerians themselves are the problem. No developed city has open Sewers. 3 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by AlhajaChinyere: 4:06pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
nograv: Oga!! so you are supporting bad CITIZENS dirtying our environment like this.....because the government can only afford underground sewage? So we should continue with this behaviour abi? Na war oooo! |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by AlhajaChinyere: 4:12pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Rossikk: Fair point - very true and I take that statement back. 1 Like |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by nograv: 4:18pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
AlhajaChinyere: The problem lies with Nigerians who foolishly accept the status quo. But ultimately government is to blame.. I have addressed this foolish viewpoint elsewhere, so I will just post what I have said previously I agree that Nigerians are partly responsible for their choice of leaders. I have studied the rise of other nations, particularly non white ones. A good proportion developed significantly without democracy Japan, Korea, China and UAE. The people had no influence on their choice of leaders. Great men stepped up and pulled their populations forward. In the case of Japan Meiji Emperor (period Meiji Restoration) In the case of Korea Park Jung-Hee Military Dictator (Period Miracle on the Han) In the case of China Deng Xiaopeng Dictator (Period Four Modernisations) In the case of UAE Sheik Al Maktoum Monarch You have other examples in the guise of Lee Kuan Yew who pretty much ruled Singapore from independence up to the present taking it from developing to developed in ONE GENERATION (hardly a great example of ever changing party based democracy) In Nigeria's case since independence not one leader has proven capable of governing the nation and propelling it to first world status. As I have shown you, the will of the people is often IRRELEVANT. What matters is the competence of the leadership at a National Level. Nigeria's leadership has shown to have been lacking.. People do not make big decisions on things like power and water drainage, their leaders do. Nigerian leaders have been at fault everytime. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by Danwakae(m): 4:23pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Tinubu's boys trying to destroy AMBODE'S EFFORTS LESSONS: If the Devil gives u with right hand, he.collects with left hand ONLY ALLAH CAN GIVE YOU PERMANENTLY 1 Like |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by nograv: 4:28pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Rossikk: Are you the same Rossikk of skyscrapercity? I read the Eko Atlantic posts from time to time.. 2 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by caprini1: 4:29pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Rossikk:Some parts of lagos island have covered drainages and side walks,but traders have turned the side walks to their shop extensions.Its our bad maintenance culture that is really a big issue. |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by Ayho: 4:56pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Open drainage is not Lagos factor only. It's a Nigeria factor, which needs to be addressed. 2 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by stagger: 4:59pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Even in Lekki. Stinking drainages everywhere. 2 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by mechanics(m): 6:53pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Not only in Lagos state, it's a common phenomenon in other states of the federation. 1 Like |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by Nobody: 8:26pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Ewwwww!! who are those people sitting right next to them filty sewages? How can anyone sit next to such open disgusting sewer? |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by kenomobola(m): 8:28pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
nograv: Thank you for this. Most Nigerians are suffering from Stockholm syndrome, they're in love with their oppressors. What is happening in Lagos state is a reflection of what happens in Nigeria as a whole. There is some subtle brainwashing being perpetrated in Lagos. If you listen carefully to Lagos state government ads, they never take responsibility for anything. It's always the citizens; blocked drainages, insecurity, land speculators, collapsed buildings, etc. For those who claim the government is broke, answer these questions: 1. Why are serving governors and retired governors getting stupendous amounts of money. 2. What is the government (at all tiers) doing with all the taxes and revenue they generate, including the huge amounts generated from VAT (which everyone pays). 3. Why are members of the national assembly having bogus salaries and allowances. 4. Anytime government officials go out of the country, why are there too many people on the entourage. The day we start telling ourselves the truth, we will start making progress. 2 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by Rossikk(m): 8:43pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
caprini1: Dude, there's no ''but'' but'' ''but'' in this......if traders block the sidewalks, it is the state govt's job to clear them away, or fine them. It is no reason not to build covered drains and sidewalks. Why are you people content to live like animals, giving all sorts of stupid excuses? Those open drains, do you realise they are very dangerous to the health, apart from being eyesores? I just don't get how you people reason. 2 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by Rossikk(m): 8:49pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Ayho: We need a NATIONAL STANDARD for all urban roads whereby all roads without covered drains and sidewalks will be deemed UNCOMPLETED PROJECTS, with resources made available to complete them incrementally, and all future roads built without such provisions will render the contractors liable to IMPRISONMENT. Within 5 years of passing this law, our urban centres will be transformed in this country. 3 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by akigbemaru: 9:11pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
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Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by nograv: 10:02pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
kenomobola: Couldn’t agree more The debate has to change. Change comes from the top down, never the other way around. You may get mass movements agitating for something, but it only happened if those at the top went along with it. The leadership in Nigeria is sadly very self serving, not one after all their travels has sought to bring back the innovations they have seen. When you ride on a bullet train in Asia or see a well developed city like New York, you wonder why we haven’t done the same in Naija? 2 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by nograv: 10:04pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Rossikk: From Russia to the UK, they have national standards on road design, signage and even things like minimum room sizes for personal dwellings.. That level of organisation is need in Naija 3 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by nograv: 10:06pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
Rossikk: Especially when there are floods in the rainy season. I recall a youtube video from Lagos where a trader said all of his fruit were submerged during the rainy season, he then dried them and continued to sell them.. 2 Likes |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by VolvoS60(m): 10:25pm On Apr 24, 2019 |
This is Lagos. |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by 9jaRealist: 1:34am On Apr 25, 2019 |
dunkem21: Virtually all of the 450 or so inner roads built by the Ambode administration have covered drains and sidewalks... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQbUMEImxak |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by 9jaRealist: 1:39am On Apr 25, 2019 |
Rossikk: Virtually all of the 450 or so inner roads built under the Ambode administration have covered drains and sidewalks (see video below)... Lagos had a road building code (in place since the Fashola administration) which stipulates certain minimum standards/requirement per road type. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQbUMEImxak |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by 9jaRealist: 1:54am On Apr 25, 2019 |
caprini1: Exactly! Spoken like someone who actually lives in Lagos... Lagos' situation often vividly brings into sharp focus the inherent folly/frustration of trying to build a modern city and 21st century infrastructure in a country and city where mindset and personal habits of large segments of the population are still seemingly mired in the 18th century (or earlier). Ultimately, to be able to sustain any real development, we have to massively (if not even first) invest in our people. There's no point building public toilets and bus shelters/pedestrian bridges only for folks to wee/defecate right beside the former and turn the latter into trading posts. Or have folks ignore litter bins and simply toss their litter into open drains or on the streets. Just look a how comfortable and seemingly naturally at ease the folks in those pictures are cooking, eating, pissing, sleeping, begging and working right beside open gutters. |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by 9jaRealist: 1:55am On Apr 25, 2019 |
Rossikk: That may well be true... Except that when the government chases them away, it will be the citizens (and sundry self-anointed do gooders) who will protest. |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by 9jaRealist: 2:24am On Apr 25, 2019 |
Rossikk: Lagos has a road building code (in place since the Fashola administration)... Thus virtually all new Lagos roads have basic street furniture of sidewalks, covered drains and streetlights. |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by 9jaRealist: 2:26am On Apr 25, 2019 |
kenomobola: But it is easy for government(s) to make such claims when it is substantially TRUTHFUL! |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by 9jaRealist: 2:29am On Apr 25, 2019 |
nograv: Respectfully disagree... There can be NO sustainable change without the citizenry taking ownership of same. Meanwhile, you could hardly put up even a lamp post in New York without a local community hearing. |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by 9jaRealist: 2:52am On Apr 25, 2019 |
Rossikk: Granted that Nigerian governments should be building better roads (and Lagos probably does the 'best' job of it)... But I have personally been to several other African countries with open gutters/drains and sadly have NOT witnessed this level of filth! Even in Kigali, which is probably the cleanest African city and among the cleanest capitals in the developing world, there are still several streets with open drains/gutters (albeit the government is doing a commendable job of aggressively upgrading road infrastructure including covered sidewalks), such as the streets and areas around Nyabugogo Marche Market, but you will NEVER EVER see them littering those drains as is seen in the unfortunate pictures here. So, yes, the CITIZENS have to take a certain amount of responsibility (and ownership) for this mess. |
Re: Open And Dirty Drainage System: Will Babajide Sanwo-olu Rescue Lagos? by kenomobola(m): 3:41am On Apr 25, 2019 |
9jaRealist: 9jaRealist: Question; who do you think collects money from these people to setup their shops and stalls at these points, why are these traders emboldened? Simple, the same government that prohibits people from selling there, turns around and collects money from these same people for using said illegal spaces. So, who is deceiving who here, it's either there is 100% compliance or none at all. This hypocrisy is evident in all spheres of life over here. Collapsed buildings, who gave the approvals? Has any government official been prosecuted? No. I can go on and on, the list is endless. As I noted earlier, the day we start telling ourselves the naked, unadulterated truth, we will start progressing. 1 Like |
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