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Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by TheArranger(m): 9:13am On May 30, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3:I'm pretty certain i didn't. Let me have a look-see though. I'll mail you when i'm ready |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Ihedinobi3: 9:16am On May 30, 2019 |
TheArranger:Very good. I'll look out for your email then. |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Nobody: 10:16am On May 30, 2019 |
LuciferImam: Well educated scientist atheists are always stuck between confusion and knowledge, how much more a half-backed atheist like you, perhaps you don't even have any much scientific knowledge, only here to run mouth like tap. First, let me clarify you: Before you confuse yourself, try to learn what Evolution, variation, natural selection, macroevolution and microevolution are. No tangible religion goes against variation or little changes in species. It happens all the time, children may differ from parent in some characteristics; things differ from others when exposed to a different environment, weather and so on. The only thing religion is against is explaining the whole existence and this vast universe from the parochial view of just evolution and big bang. That's too lame for anyone to claim. Now to your question, just cut the crap. Nobody can give you a realistic answer of how Adam and Eve look like, any answer you get is as false as your question. But assuming Adam and Eve have no navel, it's possible their offspring have or maybe perhaps pregnancy was quite different then. Lots of things have changed since then till this time and things still continue to change. There are and always will be lots of questions to ask as an atheist or as a theist, no side is safe from questions. Perhaps the view of evolution and big bang even probe more questions you can never answer than religion. Only an half-backed atheist comes to a public forum like this with proud mind, thinking in your ignorance that evolution has solved the riddle of existence. Evolution is as vague as any other thing and learned atheist are never cleared about the real source of existence. The only things learned atheists have done is to try to debunk religious books but neither have they also come up with any perfect unambiguous solution to existence. 1 Like |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by LuciferImam: 10:20am On May 30, 2019 |
Gratefulheart01: Answer the question and stop blabbing. *spits ![]() |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Nobody: 10:22am On May 30, 2019 |
LuciferImam: I already answered your question lazy illiterate atheist. I took time to read your post, read mine too. |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Nobody: 10:22am On May 30, 2019 |
LuciferImam: I already answered your question lazy illiterate atheist. I took time to read your post, read mine too. |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by LuciferImam: 10:23am On May 30, 2019 |
LilMissFavvy: Belly buttons are connected by the umbilical cord to the placenta before being cut off. They do not just appear. If Adam & Eve have belly buttons, whose placenta was it cut off from? |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by LuciferImam: 10:25am On May 30, 2019 |
Gratefulheart01: It was a simple Yes or No question. Let's try it again, Did Adam & Eve Have Belly buttons? |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Nobody: 10:34am On May 30, 2019 |
LuciferImam: How do you expect a person living in 2019 to know if some people who lived in prehistoric times we never ever saw before have belly buttons or not? That's why i said in my post that anyone who claimed to know a direct answer to your question is as false as you. You just an unrealistic person asking unrealistic question but you will get unrealistic answer from unrealistic religious people which will bring up unending unrealistic argument. I already gave you the answer but you can keep looking for someone who lived during Adam and Even Era on NL who examined Adam and Eve's belly then who will give you your YES or NO answer. 1 Like |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by LuciferImam: 10:38am On May 30, 2019 |
Gratefulheart01: In summary, there is no proof. It is all fiction? |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Nobody: 10:52am On May 30, 2019 |
LuciferImam: Same thing with big bang and evolution. They are mere fictions, theories and hypothesis. Nobody saw it with when some stars exploded and formed the universe. Just some scientific fallacy, conspiracy theories made popular by renowned scientists and made to look real by scientific models. I already said a lot in my first reply to you: Whether you're a theist or atheist, there are always questions to both sides and perhaps evolution and big band brings up more confusion and questions than religion. I also question some things in religions, that's why i'm a realistic question. I don't pretend as if i know everything. |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by LuciferImam: 10:55am On May 30, 2019 |
Gratefulheart01: We'll try this again: Did Adam & Eve have belly buttons? |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Nobody: 11:17am On May 30, 2019 |
LuciferImam: Let me phone a friend who lived during Adam's time. ![]() ![]() ![]() Wack mumu upcoming atheist. |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by LilMissFavvy(f): 12:45pm On May 30, 2019 |
You didn't understand my message, if God can create man (Adam and Eve) why should we be surprised that he created them with belly buttons? He gave them belly button in preparation for the generations to come. LuciferImam: |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Funaki: 1:50pm On May 30, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: did the holy spirit tell you Adam had umbilical cord genes, or you just inferred? What else did he have? milk teeth genes and nipple genes? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by TVSA: 3:35pm On May 30, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: Did you really think you've explained anything? I started with the fact that the volume of water of earth couldn't have caused Noah's flood. You countered with your assertion that Water came from the deep sea of ice that's separating heaven and sheol from the earth. I asked for the location of this place. You said it's not in our universal, that they're above and below this universe. I was really amused that water could come from another place not in this universe and enter our universe, travel to our milky way galaxy and find it's way to our solar system and finally enter earth's atmosphere to cause the global flood and return thorough the same path back to its former destination. I have searched for that kind of explaination and I could not find since now how water could come from such a place to our place and return. So you see, you didn't explain anything, you just came with your inane explanation of how water came from heaven and hell when you didn't really know what you were saying. And concerning the four corners of the earth. Revelation 7:1 KJV And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. The corner in this verse is[i] "gonia"[/i] it means an angle, literally a corner in the Greek lexicon. It's a point where two lines meet. It's the same word Jesus used in Matthew when he was talking about Pharisees praying in the corners of the market for people to see them. So when Revelation talks about four corners, it's talking about angels standing at an angle. I asked for this position, you said east, west, north and south, how ridiculous. are north, south, west and east corners or angles to you? Liar that you are, where did the bible say in that passage that they were standing at north, south, east and west? The writers of the book thought the earth was flat and planar. No matter how the bible sounds ridiculous, you'll just find your mumu argument to want to try and make it make sense, but it's still rubbish. The angels were standing at angles in a corner in John's hallucinations, but you said they're standing at north, south, east and west.
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Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Ihedinobi3: 4:45pm On May 30, 2019 |
TVSA:First, you seem to still be laboring under the delusion that I was trying to convince you of the Truth of the Bible's position. I am not. I have not been this whole time. I only corrected what you said about the Bible. Whether you think it is true or believable does not matter to me. I already said that multiple times. Second, about corners, I really cannot see any way to answer you on this one. If East, West, North and South do not qualify as corners to you, it is not within my ability to describe them to you. |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Ihedinobi3: 4:48pm On May 30, 2019 |
Funaki:I am not sure it is possible to explain to anyone who says the above how a human being who is the source of other human beings would possess the genetic information that defines its offspring's physical qualities. |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Nobody: 8:16pm On May 30, 2019 |
LilMissFavvy: Don't mind the clown, he is just an infant upcoming atheist and his question is invalid. No educated atheist will ask if Adam and Eve have belly button or not. Assuming the bible talks about Adam and Eve having belly buttons, then he has a clear argument, but to just come to a forum and be asking is invalid; how do anyone know the answer since we didn't live during Adam time? What learned atheist do is that, they will pick a clear verse in the Bible and debunk it e.g creation in seven days, flat earth etc. They expect you to defend the verse. But for a person to just be asking if Adam has belly button or not is the dumbest lamest question i've ever heard from someone who is trying to show himself like an atheist. |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Nobody: 8:55pm On May 30, 2019 |
dacanv: Do you know that microprocessor was created from sand? |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by LilMissFavvy(f): 9:28pm On May 30, 2019 |
![]() ![]() Gratefulheart01: 1 Like |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Zoroaster: 10:06pm On May 30, 2019 |
[quote author=TVSA post=78863258] Did you really think you've explained anything? I started with the fact that the volume of water of earth couldn't have caused Noah's flood. You countered with your assertion that Water came from the deep sea of ice that's separating heaven and sheol from the earth. I asked for the location of this place. You said it's not in our universal, that they're above and below this universe. I was really amused that water could come from another place not in this universe and enter our universe, travel to our milky way galaxy and find it's way to our solar system and finally enter earth's atmosphere to cause the global flood and return thorough the same path back to its former destination. I have searched for that kind of explaination and I could not find since now how water could come from such a place to our place and return. So you see, you didn't explain anything, you just came with your inane explanation of how water came from heaven and hell when you didn't really know what you were saying. And concerning the four corners of the earth. Revelation 7:1 KJV And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. The corner in this verse is[i] "gonia"[/i] it means an angle, literally a corner in the Greek lexicon. It's a point where two lines meet. It's the same word Jesus used in Matthew when he was talking about Pharisees praying in the corners of the market for people to see them. So when Revelation talks about four corners, it's talking about angels standing at an angle. I asked for this position, you said east, west, north and south, how ridiculous. are north, south, west and east corners or angles to you? Liar that you are, where did the bible say in that passage that they were standing at north, south, east and west? The writers of the book thought the earth was flat and planar. No matter how the bible sounds ridiculous, you'll just find your mumu argument to want to try and make it make sense, but it's still rubbish. The angels were standing at angles in a corner in John's hallucinations, but you said they're standing at north, south, east and west ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Deepfeel(m): 10:24pm On May 30, 2019 |
LuciferImam:Op how do you know Adam and Eve had belly buttons, did you see them, ? |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by McCarthy100: 5:19pm On May 31, 2019 |
dacanv:so who created the organisms, u and how about the universe can u explain how it was form |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Funaki: 8:44pm On Jun 02, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: you are only surmising, you're very good at that. Most humans genome contain tiny snippets of DNA from many ancestors. There's no singular source of human beings.
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Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Ihedinobi3: 9:06am On Jun 03, 2019 |
Funaki:I would imagine that there isn't a single human being alive today who does not have two biological progenitors. So, of course, all living human beings today have more than one ancestor. What I am wondering about is how you can go from that to the conclusion that there is "no singular source of human beings"? How is this not surmising on your part even if we were to accept that mine is any kind of surmising? |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Funaki: 10:45am On Jun 03, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: There is no singular source of human beings. We only have most recent common ancestors in the male and the female line. That doesn't mean only one singular couple are the source of all humans alive. The common male and female aren't fixed humans, they change after their line have been truncated. And the two didn't live at the same time. Imagine if my paternal cousins and my siblings and I are the only population on earth. We share common ancestors (my paternal grand parents) but they are not the singular source for us. I have a mother, and my cousins too have parents from other grandparents that we don't have in common.
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Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Ihedinobi3: 11:02am On Jun 03, 2019 |
Funaki:This is still, to use your word, "surmising" on your part. The ultimate origin of human beings, according to the Bible, is a single human couple. Can this be proved? Probably not. Why do Christians believe it? Because God said so. I get that you don't care what God says, but that is entirely your choice. And I am neither responsible nor interested in it. It is of course possible to claim that there were multiple original human progenitors, or that human beings evolved from this or that species etc, or that different "races" of human beings evolved from different branches in the evolutionary tree. But you would be in quite a bind if you tried to prove that any of these "guesses" is what actually happened. It is impossible to prove human origins. All we can do is choose what to believe. Some things make sense to believe, and others don't. For Christians, it makes sense to us to believe that there was an original human couple from whom all humankind derives, because God said so. Our logic is simply that God must know, since He created everything including that couple Himself. If God cannot be believed, who can be? |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:01pm On Jun 03, 2019 |
It's just a simple error artists that paint the pictures of Adam and Eve make ; they include a belly button when it's clear that they shouldn't because they were, as believed by literal creationists, directly created by God. Their offspring, not the parents, should rightly bear belly buttons in their pictorial depictions of the creation story. 1 Like |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Funaki: 1:16pm On Jun 03, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: I'm not surmising, nobody uses that word for genealogical DNA testing. You just called the combined works of international government bodies a "guess work". ![]() ![]() |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Ihedinobi3: 2:20pm On Jun 03, 2019 |
Funaki:I wasn't surmising either. You just called the Very Words of God a "guesswork"! |
Re: CHRISTIANITY EXPOSED: If Adam & Eve Were Created, Explain This by Tboyfrosh123(m): 9:02pm On Oct 07, 2020 |
dacanv:don't believe in evolution believe in the most high God pls pls heaven and hell is real gist me about that evolution because have heard it from about 3 atheist |
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